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    What should be India's T20 XI going forward?

    With World Cup next year, I think IPL performance will be key for players for a place in Indian T20 squad. While a lot will depend on their current form, what do you think will be the best XI that India can field in T20 game?

    Rohit
    Rahul (wkt)
    Kohli(c)
    Iyer
    --------( vacant spot)
    Pandya
    Jadeja
    Bhuvi
    Saini
    Chahal
    Bumrah

    Possible contenders/backups-

    1) Shaw/Agarwal/Dhawan

    2) SKY/Pandey/Pant/Samson

    3) Tewatia/Sundar/Dube/ Krunal

    4) Shami/ Chahar/ Natarajan

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    I would like to see this 11

    Rahul
    Rohit
    Kohli
    Iyer
    Pant
    Pandya
    Washington Saunder
    Bhuvi/Jadeja
    Bumrah
    Saini
    Kuldeep/Chahal

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    For T20

    Rohit
    Mayank
    Kohli
    Rahul
    Iyer
    Pant
    Pandya
    Jaddu Bhai or tewatia
    Saini or Chahal depending on condtions.
    Shami
    Bumrah

    What a freaking team. Beast mode. Too good. Come at us all of you lot. If Kohli has brains he would pick this side but he is a fool so I don't know what to expect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyron_woodley View Post
    For T20

    Rohit
    Mayank
    Kohli
    Rahul
    Iyer
    Pant
    Pandya
    Jaddu Bhai or tewatia
    Saini or Chahal depending on condtions.
    Shami
    Bumrah

    What a freaking team. Beast mode. Too good. Come at us all of you lot. If Kohli has brains he would pick this side but he is a fool so I don't know what to expect.
    Chahal is he the medium pacer ?

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    Jaddu in t20 lineup?

    Lmao.

    The greatest act of Jaddu was to convince the world he is a good t20 bowler.

    If experienced posters falling for this, no wonder our selectors are this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    Jaddu in t20 lineup?

    Lmao.

    The greatest act of Jaddu was to convince the world he is a good t20 bowler.

    If experienced posters falling for this, no wonder our selectors are this way.
    Just an option. Can choose Chahal or tewatia or some other bowling all-rounder easily. Makes no difference in a top class world class elite team.

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    What out for Shikhar Dhavan sneak in with his friendship of Captain and Coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyron_woodley View Post
    Just an option. Can choose Chahal or tewatia or some other bowling all-rounder easily. Makes no difference in a top class world class elite team.
    He's not even an option bud.

    He has never been a good t20 bowler in his career. International or t20.

    His odi performances get conflated with his t20 ones.

    Whom we pick makes a world of difference and we of all teams should know it after our recent tournament fiascos.

    Our spin AR options are:

    Sundar
    Krunal
    Tewatia

    I might have missed some but these 3 come to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jino View Post
    What out for Shikhar Dhavan sneak in with his friendship of Captain and Coach.
    Rohit
    Dhawan
    Kohli
    Rahul

    All playing for their averages.

    Will be a sight to behold.

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    We need a change in our mentality.

    Our batters are happy playing match losing, stat boosting knocks in the name of stability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    He's not even an option bud.

    He has never been a good t20 bowler in his career. International or t20.

    His odi performances get conflated with his t20 ones.

    Whom we pick makes a world of difference and we of all teams should know it after our recent tournament fiascos.

    Our spin AR options are:

    Sundar
    Krunal
    Tewatia

    I might have missed some but these 3 come to mind.
    Omg you are right. Sundar has been absolutely brilliant. I forgot him. No defo not krunal.

    Either way what a beast team. Top class team as long as we pick the right personnel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    We need a change in our mentality.

    Our batters are happy playing match losing, stat boosting knocks in the name of stability.
    Yup, our batsman still have the mentality that they can go run a ball for the first few overs and accelerate when they get set.
    Specially Rohit, he is usually very slow at the start even though he has the ability to go gung ho
    Even Kl rahul is now doing the same, but why blame him he's just learning from his seniors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyron_woodley View Post
    For T20

    Rohit
    Mayank
    Kohli
    Rahul
    Iyer
    Pant
    Pandya
    Jaddu Bhai or tewatia
    Saini or Chahal depending on condtions.
    Shami
    Bumrah

    What a freaking team. Beast mode. Too good. Come at us all of you lot. If Kohli has brains he would pick this side but he is a fool so I don't know what to expect.
    Rahul is an opener bro and a pretty successful one, his position shouldn't be swapped.

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    Next T20 WC is in India and there is still one more IPL to go in April next year. Based on current form, this should be the 15 for the WC.

    Openers
    Rahul ( wk)
    Rohit
    Mayank

    Middle Order
    Kohli
    Iyer
    Samson / Gill / D. Kartik

    All rounders
    Jadeja / K. Pandya
    Sundar
    H. Pandya

    Spinners
    Ashwin
    Y.Chahar

    Pacers
    Bumrah
    Bhuvi
    Shammi / D Chahar
    Saini

    Note:
    1) No Dhawan please-past his prime in T20.
    2) Shaw has technical issues and being exposed in IPL.
    3) No Manish Pandey please. He is a good for ODI only.
    4) No place for that hack R. Pant.
    5) Don't need pseudo allrounders like Shivam Dubey and Vijay Shankar.
    6) Tewtia looks like another hack. Let him prove himself again in the next IPL.
    7) No Shardul or Khaleel - both TTF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    He's not even an option bud.

    He has never been a good t20 bowler in his career. International or t20.

    His odi performances get conflated with his t20 ones.

    Whom we pick makes a world of difference and we of all teams should know it after our recent tournament fiascos.

    Our spin AR options are:

    Sundar
    Krunal
    Tewatia

    I might have missed some but these 3 come to mind.
    I get your points on Jadeja but he has shown lots of improvement in his batting/hitting over last two years, he is an economical bowler and an outstanding fielder, bats at 7 and his hitting skill are better than Sundar.

    They all are closer options but at no.7 and as fifth bowling option, I feel Jadeja is still our best bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deep82 View Post
    Next T20 WC is in India and there is still one more IPL to go in April next year. Based on current form, this should be the 15 for the WC.

    Openers
    Rahul ( wk)
    Rohit
    Mayank

    Middle Order
    Kohli
    Iyer
    Samson / Gill / D. Kartik

    All rounders
    Jadeja / K. Pandya
    Sundar
    H. Pandya

    Spinners
    Ashwin
    Y.Chahar

    Pacers
    Bumrah
    Bhuvi
    Shammi / D Chahar
    Saini

    Note:
    1) No Dhawan please-past his prime in T20.
    2) Shaw has technical issues and being exposed in IPL.
    3) No Manish Pandey please. He is a good for ODI only.
    4) No place for that hack R. Pant.
    5) Don't need pseudo allrounders like Shivam Dubey and Vijay Shankar.
    6) Tewtia looks like another hack. Let him prove himself again in the next IPL.
    7) No Shardul or Khaleel - both TTF.
    I agree with this except the middle order.

    Samson and Pant both are flawed. Gill in middle order really? DK, no he will flop more than perform.

    Rest I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    I agree with this except the middle order.

    Samson and Pant both are flawed. Gill in middle order really? DK, no he will flop more than perform.

    Rest I agree.
    Kohli, Iyer and Pandya are locked for our middle order. The last middle order spot is just a backup anyway - Samson, Gill, Pant or Kartik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    I get your points on Jadeja but he has shown lots of improvement in his batting/hitting over last two years, he is an economical bowler and an outstanding fielder, bats at 7 and his hitting skill are better than Sundar.

    They all are closer options but at no.7 and as fifth bowling option, I feel Jadeja is still our best bet.
    Jadeja is the most underrated player in all formats.

    Hell he is on the way to become a test ATG. Look at his bowling figures. Jesus Christ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyron_woodley View Post
    Jadeja is the most underrated player in all formats.

    Hell he is on the way to become a test ATG. Look at his bowling figures. Jesus Christ.
    I agree. He has experience and if we are stuck in a situation where we need 45 off 5 overs in a WT20 game, I can expect Jadeja to bat through and win it. Krunal will hit a few but get out in such a situation and Sundar can't take us through the chase, Jadeja can chase that though.

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    Hardik, Jadeja and Sundar will be perfect 6, 7, 8 for India.


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    In bilateral T20s, we should stop picking Rohit and Kohli. Time to groom younger batsmen. Give the captaincy to KL Rahul. Pick Bumrah only for World T20s.

    Batsmen: KL Rahul (C), Mayank Agrawal, Devdutt Padikkal, Shubman Gill, Shreyas Iyer, Surya Kumar Yadav
    Keepers: Sanju Samson, Rishabh Pant
    Allrounders: Hardik Pandya, Washington Sundar
    Spinners: Yuzvendra Chahal
    Pacers: Deepak Chahar, Prasidh Krishna, Navdeep Saini, Shivam Mavi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    I agree. He has experience and if we are stuck in a situation where we need 45 off 5 overs in a WT20 game, I can expect Jadeja to bat through and win it. Krunal will hit a few but get out in such a situation and Sundar can't take us through the chase, Jadeja can chase that though.
    He is yet to show that in international T20s. There have been flashes of brilliance here and there, but sadly that's about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShoonyaSifar View Post
    In bilateral T20s, we should stop picking Rohit and Kohli. Time to groom younger batsmen. Give the captaincy to KL Rahul. Pick Bumrah only for World T20s.

    Batsmen: KL Rahul (C), Mayank Agrawal, Devdutt Padikkal, Shubman Gill, Shreyas Iyer, Surya Kumar Yadav
    Keepers: Sanju Samson, Rishabh Pant
    Allrounders: Hardik Pandya, Washington Sundar
    Spinners: Yuzvendra Chahal
    Pacers: Deepak Chahar, Prasidh Krishna, Navdeep Saini, Shivam Mavi
    I have been saying that for a long time. Problem is they all have to play. Money talks. People pay to watch them play so they are forced to play hence they get less rest. Unlike the English and Australian players who are allowed to take ample rest to prioritise World cups or ICC events, Indian players don't enjoy that luxury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    I get your points on Jadeja but he has shown lots of improvement in his batting/hitting over last two years, he is an economical bowler and an outstanding fielder, bats at 7 and his hitting skill are better than Sundar.

    They all are closer options but at no.7 and as fifth bowling option, I feel Jadeja is still our best bet.
    He is not an economical bowler in T20s.

    His line & lengths don't work in T20s.

    Haven't watched a lot of Sundar's batting but if my memory serves me right, he is a better striker of the ball easily.

    May not have clicked yet in this year's IPL but has the talent.


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    Jaddu is going at 8.69 rpo with 4 wickets in 8 matches this IPL.

    Bowling average - 50.


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    Ajinkya Rahane
    Shikhar Dhawan
    Ambati Rayudu
    Virat Kohli*
    DK (WK)
    Manish Pandey
    Vijay Shankar
    Shardul Thakur
    Khalil Ahmed
    Kuldeep
    Bumrah

    Reserves
    Krunal Pandya
    Mohammad Siraj
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    ^ This is what the selectors will chose

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    Next wt20 is in India so.....

    Rahul (wk)
    Rohit
    Kohli
    Iyer
    Pandya
    *******
    Tewatia
    Shami
    Chahal
    Kuldeep
    Bumrah


    Reserves - Bhuvi, Saini, Mayank, Gill

    Have no idea who that **** will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    He is not an economical bowler in T20s.

    His line & lengths don't work in T20s.

    Haven't watched a lot of Sundar's batting but if my memory serves me right, he is a better striker of the ball easily.

    May not have clicked yet in this year's IPL but has the talent.
    He got a poor start this year but is starting to get back to the rythm, his economy is 7.1 in international T20 cricket and averages 29. He also has international experience and over the years has improved a lot.

    On Sundar's batting, actually this is first time I am hearing that he is a good striker of the ball. I have followed this year's IPL and RCB games closely, Sundar has basically batted like a night Watchmen and whenever I see him bat he bats like that. I don't know, may be I am wrong but his batting in 2020 is exactly what Jadeja batting was when he debuted. Absolutely of no worth in T20 cricket at 7. Basically an inch better than Ashwin's batting in T20 cricket.

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    Pant at 5

    Axar Patel instead of Jadeja

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    Yes, Axar patel has improved his power hitting and he has an economy of under 6 in IPL 2020 which is insane. He has always been a miser, not a wicket taker but a choker in the middle overs.

    On current form, I would put him ahead of krunal and Jadeja.

    Our spin bowling resources:

    Chahal
    Kuldeep
    Ashiwn
    Washington
    Jadeja
    Axar
    Krunal

    Uncapped Spinners getting game time in IPL 2020

    Ravi Bishnoi (leg spinner) - impressed a lot of people, bit like rashid khan in bowling style
    M. Ashwin ( leg spinner) - posseses massive googly and has impressed as well.
    Varun Chakarworty ( off spinner / mystery spinner) - A bit like Narine and getting regular game time.
    Rahul Chahar ( leg spinner) - A quick arm action and an economical IPL. Maybe not a wicket taker.
    Rahul Tewtia ( leg spinner) - A proper leg spinning allrounder. Still jury out on his bowling though.
    Shreyas Gopal ( legspinner) - Ever reliable, misery and takes crucial wickets. Unsung performer.


    Uncapped Spinners sitting on bench in IPL 2020

    Sai Kishore ( left arm spin) - Warming bench becasue CSK apparently prefer 35 year old Chawla and Karn Sharma.

    K.Gowtam ( off spin) - Warming bench because Kings X1 prefers two leg spinners. He is a power hitter also as shown in IPL 2018.

    J Suchit, M. Sidharata & Ankul Roy ( left arm spin )- Highly rated but no chances to the trio.

    Mayank Markende ( leg spinner)- forgetten and no where in contention even for IPL.

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    A similar analysis on Indian pace bowling stocks.

    International level

    Bumrah ( All Format)
    Shami ( All Format)
    Bhuvi ( White Ball)
    Yadav ( Red Ball)
    Ishant ( Red Ball)
    Saini (All format potentially)
    D Chahar ( White ball )



    Tried & Tested Failures
    Boil my blood each time seeing them in IPL year after year.

    Shardul
    Khaleel
    Siraz
    Undakat
    Kaul
    Aaron
    Mohit


    Uncapped Pacers getting game time in IPL 2020

    T Natrajan - He has highest percentage of yorkers in IPL2020 and bowls in death. But speed is low around 132 kph which would not cut in International cricket. Better than Khaleel though.

    Sandeep Sharma - A trundler at around 128kph and can only bowl with new ball. He will never make to Indian team.

    Kartik Tyagi - An exiting talent. Tall, lovely runup and generates pace around 140kph. He should be a top priority at MRF pace academy to manage his career.

    Shivam Mavi - Didn't impress despite getting lots of game. Not looking like an Indian prospect at the moment. Avg speed 138- 140 kph

    Nagarkoti - Got less chances than Mavi but he too didn't impress and looks raw and undercooked. Avg speed 140kph

    Prasidh Krishna- Got limited opportunities but delivered average performance. Avg speed 135-138 kph.

    Arshdeep- A left arm 125kph trundler and did decent on sluggish pitches. But everyone knows he is not an Indian prospect.

    Avesh/Deshpande/Thampi/Rajpoot - Alll four got couple of opportunities but nothing special on first look. Though they can generate good pace of around 138-140 kph.


    Uncapped Pacers on bench in IPL 2020

    S Warrier- Only a domestic warrier but can never make it big in IPL and Int. cricket.

    Ishan porel - A true exciting talent- tall, hit the deck hard and most importantly gave stellar performances in List A, Domestic T20 and Ranji trophy last season. No chances in IPl so far.

    K Asif & Monu Kumar - Again CSK giving chance after chance to Shardul but have not given single game to any of these two youngsters.

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    1. Rohit
    2. Rahul
    3. Pant
    4. Iyer
    5. Pandya
    6. Kohli
    7. A. Patel
    8. K. Pandya
    9. Chahal
    10. Bumrah
    11. Chahar/ Bhuvi

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    Jadeja is a rubbish lower order t20 batsman, you don't need someone who starts slowly and then accelerates as a lower order t20 batsman, you need someone who score 20(10) and gets out.

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    Enough with Dhawan in T20's.


    Virat, ABD, KP and Sir Viv.

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    Their best side would undoubtedly be:

    Rohit
    Rahul
    Kohli
    Iyer
    Pant
    Hardik
    Jadeja
    Bhuvneshwar / Chahar
    Shami
    Bumrah
    Chahal

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    Iyer
    Hardik
    Krunal
    Bhuvi
    Ashwin
    Bumrah
    Chahal


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    I pick my team based on consistency and good temperament. I donít go with players of flash in the pan.
    My 15 member squad

    1 Rahul (K)
    2 Rohit (C)
    3 Kohli
    4 Iyer
    5 Surakumar
    6 D Kartik
    7 Axer Patel
    8 Saini
    9 Shami
    10 Bhumrah
    11 Chahel
    Bench: Mayank, Bhuvi, Jadeja,Manish/ Dhawan.

    Not sure whom to pick between Manish and Dhawan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saurav View Post
    Rahul
    Rohit (c)
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    Liked the bowling choices but Mayank at 4??

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    Rohit
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    Virat, ABD, KP and Sir Viv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    Liked the bowling choices but Mayank at 4??
    Yes he plays spin really and hits them big.Can be at 3 with Kohli at 4 if we lose early wicket


    The only disability in life is a bad attitude. -Scott Hamilton

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    Sanju Samson making a strong claim at no.5 as he also adds that explosiveness factor missing in the lineup.

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    Abdul Samad is an exceptional talent. Need to be developed quickly, can play at 7 in Indian team in a couple of years time in LO format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    Abdul Samad is an exceptional talent. Need to be developed quickly, can play at 7 in Indian team in a couple of years time in LO format.
    Guys like him and Tewatia are the need of the hour for the Indian team. They can hit out at the end and bowl handy 5th bowler overs with Pandya (when he eventually starts bowling).

    But unfortunately, kaptaan may pick Jadeja or even worse Sundar at no.7

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    Dhawan/Mayank
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    Shami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesozoic View Post
    Guys like him and Tewatia are the need of the hour for the Indian team. They can hit out at the end and bowl handy 5th bowler overs with Pandya (when he eventually starts bowling).

    But unfortunately, kaptaan may pick Jadeja or even worse Sundar at no.7
    Tewatia should have been picked in the squad. The guy is an excellent fielder also so that advantage of Jadeja is gone anyways.

    Kaptaan is known for doing brainfade stuffs. He will persist with Jadeja for two more years and then start making change at business end. With a few months left of 2023 WC, he will start looking for better options and in the World Cup, we will go without a no.7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesozoic View Post
    Dhawan/Mayank
    Rohit
    Rahul (WK)
    Kohli
    SKY/Kishan
    Pandya
    Samad/Tewatia
    Chahal
    Bumrah
    Shami
    Bhuvi
    What a team. Just amazing. If Kohli can't win the t20 WC with this top class team then he should step down.

    I agree 100% Samad must play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    Tewatia should have been picked in the squad. The guy is an excellent fielder also so that advantage of Jadeja is gone anyways.

    Kaptaan is known for doing brainfade stuffs. He will persist with Jadeja for two more years and then start making change at business end. With a few months left of 2023 WC, he will start looking for better options and in the World Cup, we will go without a no.7.
    Samad has smashed around bumrah, nortje and rabada. I think I have seen enough. He warrants an automatic spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyron_woodley View Post
    Samad has smashed around bumrah, nortje and rabada. I think I have seen enough. He warrants an automatic spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyron_woodley View Post
    What a team. Just amazing. If Kohli can't win the t20 WC with this top class team then he should step down.

    I agree 100% Samad must play.

    He will have no excuses. Home conditions, a top class team, brilliant spinners....

    But still I have zero to minimum hope. He'll find a way to mess things up.

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    For the next year T20 WC , The eleven would be like

    1. Rohit
    2. Dhawan
    3. Kohli C
    4. Iyer
    5. Kl Rahul wk
    6. Pandya
    7. Jadeja
    8. Varun/Bhuvi/Natarajan
    9. Shami
    10. Chahal
    11. Bumrah

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    There will be a major shift in Indian cricket only after 2023.

    Kohli, Pujara, Rahane, Rohit, Dhawan, Ishant, Shami, Ashwin, Jadeja, Saha & Manish Pandey will be past their best and I can see only Jadeja and Kohli to continue after 2023 for few more years on the basis of their exceptional fitness.

    If India could not win at least 2 of the 5 ICC trophies in next 3 years ( two T20 WC, two test championship & one ODI WC ), it will be major disappointment for fans.

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    I am feeling for SKY Surya Kumar Yadav.

    He is at his peak and his time is now. I wish he can maintain his form till the next IPL in 5 month time. If he has another spectacular IPL, there is no way selectors can ignore him any further.

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    Rahul
    Shaw
    Rohit
    Virat
    Gill
    Hardik
    Jadeja
    Chahal
    Shami
    Bumrah
    Natarajan

    You can make 2 great teams with so many options


    Dhawan
    Agarwal
    Surya Kumar Yadav
    Kishan
    Pant/Samson
    Tewatia
    Samad
    Chahar/Varun
    Bhuvi
    Tyagi
    Saini
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