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    Govt failed to honour Constitution, democracy passing through its most difficult phase: Sonia Gandhi

    Accusing the government of “demolishing” the economy, pushing the country into an “abyss” due to poor management of the coronavirus pandemic, and failing to “honour” the Constitution, Congress interim president Sonia Gandhi on Sunday said the Indian democracy was passing through its “most difficult phase”.

    Presiding over a meeting of AICC General Secretaries and state-in-charges for the first time after a major organisational reshuffle last month, Gandhi also attacked the Centre over the “anti-agriculture” farm laws and atrocities against Dalits.

    Gandhi claimed there was a “designed attack” on the Constitution and democratic traditions and that the country’s democracy was passing through its “most difficult phase”.

    Citing the contentious farm laws, Gandhi said the country was being ruled by a government that was “systematically handing over the rights of citizens to a handful of crony capitalists.”

    A “conspiracy” has been hatched to defeat the gains of the “green revolution”, she alleged. “Lives and livelihoods of crores of farm labourers, leasehold farmers, small and marginal farmers, toiling labourers and small shopkeepers are under attack. It is our solemn duty to join hands to defeat this sinister conspiracy,” she said.

    The three farm bills — the Farmer’s Produce Trade and Commerce (Promotion and Facilitation) Bill, 2020, the Farmers (Empowerment and Protection) Agreement of Price Assurance and Farm Services Bill, 2020 and the Essential Commodities (Amendment) Bill, 2020 — were passed by Parliament recently. Subsequently, President Ram Nath Kovind gave his assent to the bills.

    The Congress, many other opposition parties and several farmers organisations have been protesting against these legislations, claiming that these would harm the interests of farmers and benefit corporates, a claim denied by the government. The Centre has asserted that these new laws would be beneficial for farmers and increase their income.

    In her opening remarks at the meeting, Gandhi took on Prime Minister Narendra Modi and the Centre’s handling of the coronavirus crisis in the country. “The stark truth is that a prime minister who promised to defeat corona within 21 days has abdicated his and his government’s responsibility towards the citizens,” she said.

    “All this happened as we witnessed the biggest unplanned and cruel migration of crores of migrant labourers as the government remained a mute spectator to their miseries. There is neither a plan nor strategic thinking, solution or a way ahead in the fight against the pandemic,” she added.

    Speaking on the slump in GDP growth, Gandhi claimed that the government had simultaneously “demolished” the economy, built painstakingly by the hard work of fellow Indians and the vision of successive Congress governments.

    “Never has the country witnessed such a free-fall in GDP as also all other economic indices. Today, the young have no jobs. Nearly 14 crore jobs have been lost. Small and medium businesses, small shopkeepers and other small enterprises are shutting at an unprecedented pace, yet an uncaring government remains a mute spectator,” the Congress president said.

    She also accused the government of failing to honour its Constitutional responsibilities, saying the share of GST compensation was being denied to states. In a sharp retraction of its earlier position, the Finance Ministry last week said the Centre would borrow from the market to pay the GST compensation shortfall of Rs 1.1 lakh crore to states.

    “How will the state governments help our people, if the government of India was to renege on its Constitutional obligations? This must be a first example of economic anarchy being spread by the central government,” Gandhi said.

    In an apparent reference to the death of a 19-year-old Dalit girl, who was allegedly gangraped by four upper caste men in UP’s Hathras, Gandhi said the atrocities against Dalits had reached a “new zenith”.

    “Instead of honouring the law and granting adequate protection to India’s daughters, the BJP governments are siding with criminals. The voice of oppressed families is being suppressed by the agencies of the state. Is this the new “Raj Dharma’?” she asked.

    She exhorted the general secretaries and state in-charges to take on these challenges and stand with the people, saying this is what defines the Congress organisation.

    “I am confident that all of you would toil hard and stand up to the forces attacking India and its people. Let us join hands to defeat the anti-democracy and autocratic designs of the ruling BJP,” she said.

    “Persistent and determined struggle for the cause of people is the heart and soul of Indian National Congress. Even today, dedicated service of fellow citizens and determined fight against the injustice, inequity and discrimination in all spheres is the guiding light for every Congress men and women,” Gandhi said.

    https://indianexpress.com/article/in...gandi-6776148/


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    She can’t even bring democracy to her party yet talks about democracy of the nation.




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    The biggest shame in both Indian and Pakistani politics is the lack of credible opposition. It's even more of a shame in India as the incumbent government are a bunch of bigots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbar Singh View Post
    She can’t even bring democracy to her party yet talks about democracy of the nation
    Exactly. And it's funny coming from a party that declared Emergency in the 70's.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    Exactly. And it's funny coming from a party that declared Emergency in the 70's.
    For a politician it is fine if one is a hypocrite, but she must say which parts of the constitution were not honoured.

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    Question for the Indian members on here, Do Congress have a good chance of winning in 2024?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giannis View Post
    Question for the Indian members on here, Do Congress have a good chance of winning in 2024?
    Not until they have a Gandhi at helm of their affairs. Not because they're incompetent but due to the fact that most of the electorate has already bought into the narrative of them being useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbar Singh View Post
    She can’t even bring democracy to her party yet talks about democracy of the nation.



    Shoot the messenger, eh? So democracy in India is doing absolutely fine, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    Not until they have a Gandhi at helm of their affairs. Not because they're incompetent but due to the fact that most of the electorate has already bought into the narrative of them being useless.
    Further on this, it won't be that any non Gandhi will start winning elections once handed the reins of Congress. But at least he/she won't handicap Congress' chances even before they go on hustings which is precisely the case for last 6-odd years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    Shoot the messenger, eh? So democracy in India is doing absolutely fine, right?
    When was the last time democracy in india was doing absolutely fine? It is fine if you have no answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    Shoot the messenger, eh? So democracy in India is doing absolutely fine, right?
    It's called stating the facts , and not shooting the messenger. Some people cannot tell the difference.

    A person who doesn't tolerate any dissidence in her family-run political party has no right to talk of democracy elsewhere. Those who live in glass houses...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gani999 View Post
    It's called stating the facts , and not shooting the messenger. Some people cannot tell the difference.

    A person who doesn't tolerate any dissidence in her family-run political party has no right to talk of democracy elsewhere. Those who live in glass houses...
    By that measure, the opposition will not be able to take the govt to task. They are in opposition for a reason, and the ruling govt should be held to higher standards.

    although she must give specifics, which parts of the COI have been violated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gani999 View Post
    It's called stating the facts , and not shooting the messenger. Some people cannot tell the difference.

    A person who doesn't tolerate any dissidence in her family-run political party has no right to talk of democracy elsewhere. Those who live in glass houses...
    lol, laughable excuse to bail out sanghis!

    That way, no opposition should be able corner any government, right? Those who live in glass houses and all that stuff! Is hamaam mein sab nange hain!

    And if you think that sanghis are shining example of democracy then think more. Have a look at everything done since this duo took over their affairs. Do you honestly think J P Nadda is empowered to do anything on his own? He can't even appoint central observers for states on his own He is a ceremonial prez at the most. If that counts for democracy in your books, so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gani999 View Post
    It's called stating the facts , and not shooting the messenger. Some people cannot tell the difference.

    A person who doesn't tolerate any dissidence in her family-run political party has no right to talk of democracy elsewhere. Those who live in glass houses...
    So since there is no democracy in Congress they should not talk about India's current state? Then who'll talk about it? Or should everybody just keep mum about our sorry state of affairs and not talk about it all?

    Btw, is there anyone else in Indian political spectrum who is qualified enough by your definition of a democratic political setup?

    Or may be you think all is well, so no need for all this stuff!

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    Maino talking about democracy....

    Never gets unfunny.

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    Genuinely feel sorry for all the Congi supporters for having to defend this joke of a party ruled by a joke of a family.

    And then there's pappu himself ...lord! ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    So since there is no democracy in Congress they should not talk about India's current state? Then who'll talk about it? Or should everybody just keep mum about our sorry state of affairs and not talk about it all?
    They can talk about whatever they want. Since when did hypocrisy become a crime in Indian polity?

    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    Btw, is there anyone else in Indian political spectrum who is qualified enough by your definition of a democratic political setup?

    Or may be you think all is well, so no need for all this stuff!
    The last time I checked a certain Narendra Modi did get elected through a democratic process, something many so-called democratic people cannot stomach.

    I'm not a fan of Modi, but he is the only one and his party the only political formation that is capable of providing any form of strong central government in India today.

    If you have any other option in mind, I'd love to hear it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketCartoons View Post
    By that measure, the opposition will not be able to take the govt to task. They are in opposition for a reason, and the ruling govt should be held to higher standards.

    although she must give specifics, which parts of the COI have been violated.
    I agree. A strong opposition which has the nation's interest in mind is very much needed. Unfortunately, the Congress doesn't seem to satisfy these conditions. No one takes them seriously.

    And as for stating which parts of the COI have been violated, I doubt we can expect such intellectual stuff from Sonia and her coterie.

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    I'm not a fan of Modi, but he is the only one and his party the only political formation that is capable of providing any form of strong central government in India today.
    At least don't lie to yourself, you are a big fan of him. You yourself wrote that he is the only one capable of forming strong central government which is a big fat lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gani999 View Post
    They can talk about whatever they want. Since when did hypocrisy become a crime in Indian polity?
    So you mean to say, sanghis too can talk about riots and religious bigotry?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    So you mean to say, sanghis too can talk about riots and religious bigotry?
    You still haven't answered. Which section(s) of the COI have been violated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbar Singh View Post
    She can’t even bring democracy to her party yet talks about democracy of the nation.



    Is she wrong?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    So you mean to say, sanghis too can talk about riots and religious bigotry?
    What was rajiv gandhi's role in masjid-e-jamnasthan case and 1984 riots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Is she wrong?
    hard to say unless she gives specifics. If by democracy, she means congress, then yes it is in danger and in its most difficult phase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gani999 View Post
    It's called stating the facts , and not shooting the messenger. Some people cannot tell the difference.

    A person who doesn't tolerate any dissidence in her family-run political party has no right to talk of democracy elsewhere. Those who live in glass houses...
    What a dumb post. What's the point of an opposition then if they can't question the government? It's obvious they will raise points like these when they are not in power. As a BJP supporter you should prove her wrong with facts rather than trying to stop her from questioning the current government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    What a dumb post. What's the point of an opposition then if they can't question the government? It's obvious they will raise points like these when they are not in power. As a BJP supporter you should prove her wrong with facts rather than trying to stop her from questioning the current government.
    Do you agree with her? What part of COI have been violated and how is democracy in more danger compared to any other era?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    What a dumb post. What's the point of an opposition then if they can't question the government? It's obvious they will raise points like these when they are not in power. As a BJP supporter you should prove her wrong with facts rather than trying to stop her from questioning the current government.
    And then they say all is well with our democratic setup. If they are questioning the right of opposition to question the government of the day, then it itself means that they themselves don't believe in democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    Shoot the messenger, eh? So democracy in India is doing absolutely fine, right?
    Of course the messenger is important.

    If tomorrow Yogi Adityanath or someone similar starts lecturing others on religious intolerance would you take them seriously?

    Democracy in Indian isn’t doing fine and Sonia and her family are part of the problem. The government is behaving like it is, in part, because there is no credible opposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    And then they say all is well with our democratic setup. If they are questioning the right of opposition to question the government of the day, then it itself means that they themselves don't believe in democracy.
    What form if democracy is practiced in india? Other than the day of voting, does the common citizen have any power to participate in the decision making?

    What kind of democracy it is, that the party has to issue a whip, and the member of parliament has to follow the whip, otherwise disqualified. Where is democracy there?

    If democracy is not there even in the parliament, the so called temple of democracy, what the hell are the whiners whining about?

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    Look who’s talking about DEMOCRACY.

    #Hypocrites

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    Shoot the messenger, eh? So democracy in India is doing absolutely fine, right?
    It would’ve made perfect sense if she had set the standard for democracy from her party itself, maybe then people would’ve have lauded her efforts. But now it just seems desperate attempts to stay in limelight. Congress is finished for good! India finally got rid of them mafia family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    And then they say all is well with our democratic setup. If they are questioning the right of opposition to question the government of the day, then it itself means that they themselves don't believe in democracy.
    Free speech works both ways. If Congress supporters think it's their right to question the government, then they should not complain if others question them on their (non-existent) inner party democracy.

    The problem with Congress supporters is that they cry foul if someone questions them or the 'family' , but cite free speech to question and criticise all and sundry.

    Hypocrisy, in other words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketCartoons View Post
    You still haven't answered. Which section(s) of the COI have been violated?
    Dude don't waste your time seeking such answers. We are talking about the very same party that thought nothing of introducing a national emergency and suspending both the constitution and human rights for months on end.
    And they talk of democracy, ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gani999 View Post
    Dude don't waste your time seeking such answers. We are talking about the very same party that thought nothing of introducing a national emergency and suspending both the constitution and human rights for months on end.
    And they talk of democracy, ha!
    The time is not wasted. When there are no answers, it shows that there is no substance in what they say and they stand exposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gani999 View Post
    Free speech works both ways. If Congress supporters think it's their right to question the government, then they should not complain if others question them on their (non-existent) inner party democracy.

    The problem with Congress supporters is that they cry foul if someone questions them or the 'family' , but cite free speech to question and criticise all and sundry.

    Hypocrisy, in other words.
    Unlike bhakts, I'm not a bhakt of Congress. Unlike bhakts, I don't care whether they ever get power again. For bhakts, only thing that matters is how sanghis cling on to power. After all, motabhai still dreams about ruling India for 50 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianG00se View Post
    It would’ve made perfect sense if she had set the standard for democracy from her party itself, maybe then people would’ve have lauded her efforts. But now it just seems desperate attempts to stay in limelight. Congress is finished for good! India finally got rid of them mafia family.
    So you mean to say that bigot should stay quiet if there is religious bigotry in India if he is in opposition, say 10-15 years down the line?

    PS: Don't think he can survive a day without power. He'd rather commit suicide than sit in opposition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    Unlike bhakts, I'm not a bhakt of Congress. Unlike bhakts, I don't care whether they ever get power again. For bhakts, only thing that matters is how sanghis cling on to power. After all, motabhai still dreams about ruling India for 50 years.
    Being in power is the first requirement if a party wants to serve the nation and uplift the poor. Absolutely nothing wrong in any party dreaming of being in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    So you mean to say that bigot should stay quiet if there is religious bigotry in India if he is in opposition, say 10-15 years down the line?

    PS: Don't think he can survive a day without power. He'd rather commit suicide than sit in opposition.
    Or how about she starts leading from the front and stop with family heritage. Indian leadership is not someone’s family business how they have been treating for past 7 decades. Regarding bigotry, irony is Congress are guilty of worst crimes committed in India. Did you forget Indira declaring national emergency and putting opposition in jail just to win an election? If Modi had done even remotely close to that, all hell would break loose!

    Both parties are criminal and have blood in their hand. Just because Modi is devil doesn’t make Congressi Mafia lady an angel!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    So you mean to say that bigot should stay quiet if there is religious bigotry in India if he is in opposition, say 10-15 years down the line?

    PS: Don't think he can survive a day without power. He'd rather commit suicide than sit in opposition.
    And yes calling everyone sanghis and Bhakts doesn’t make your argument strong, it only shows character of Congress and their supporters who are dwindling and would be non-existent in next 20 years.
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    Pathetic are those who don't even live in India and yet boast about knowing more about India and its current existential issues due to a bigot than say a resident Indian.

    So enough of those sermons from a non resident bhakt who took refuge in some other country.

    As for some getting extinct, shows how desperate bhakts are. You know nothing about my political ideology.

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    All bhakts do is to indulge in whataboutery. This is their best coping mechanism. They have learnt it from their master.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    All bhakts do is to indulge in whataboutery. This is their best coping mechanism. They have learnt it from their master.
    Yet you make the bhakts win by running away when asked questions. There is a reason they are on the winning side, because those who oppose have no answers when challenged.


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