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    Quote Originally Posted by El Generico View Post
    It would be discriminatory and plain weird if there was a policy for requesting a doctor of any race.
    Thats not what I asked.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Generico View Post
    You really donít see a difference between requesting a doctor of your own gender and requesting a doctor of a certain race?
    Thats not what I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miandadrules View Post
    Do you often tell waitresses intimate details about yourself and then have them put their hands on you?
    If a person has issues in getting inspected by a doctor, then we should be voicing for the establishment of an environment where these kind of stigma should be abolished and NOT fuel it.

    Will a doctor be able to refuse a patient because she is a female as he is uncomfortable in inspecting a woman because of his beliefs?

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    Interesting secularists love secularism so much, they will happily allow their wife, daughter or mother to be forced to see a male doctor even if they feel uncomfotable. Great people


    Lions don't lose sleep over the opinions of Sheep

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    What France is doing by forcing is not correct. However going to a doctor and seeing an opposite gender doctor , there is nothing sexual about it. Dirty minds think dirty thoughts.

    Going to a doctor has nothing to do with sex. I have a cousin in lahore who Is a gynecologist for over 40 years.
    Last edited by sweep_shot; 3rd November 2020 at 02:50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    Lets find out.
    @Tubs as a supporter of secuarlism. Do you agree with this law? If a female from your family lives in France, contacts you to say she is worried as she only wants to see a female doctor. You will convince her to see a male even if it makes her feel unconformatble?
    Nope, I definitely don't support that. But again, it's nothing to do with secularism.

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    I thought opinions were protected under freedom of expression? The OP's point about France being a extremist nation does not seem too far fetched.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Generico View Post


    I thought opinions were protected under freedom of expression? The OP's point about France being a extremist nation does not seem too far fetched.
    Here is more evidence.

    French children could get ID numbers to keep them from 'the clutches of Islamists'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...hes-islamists/

    Something out of Nazi Germany. @Robert @James Your views?


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    Why a bill on publishing images of police officers is causing outrage in France

    Thousands of people marched in French cities Saturday to protest a draft law that would place limits on the filming of on-duty police officers, a move condemned as a curb on press freedom.
    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/why-a-bi...rage-in-france

    This is a democratic right in the UK and many other nations around the world.

    The so called bastians of freedom aka French are once again showing they care not for freedom, they are hypocrites and extremists.

    Nice to see some French people waking up to this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi View Post
    If a person has issues in getting inspected by a doctor, then we should be voicing for the establishment of an environment where these kind of stigma should be abolished and NOT fuel it.

    Will a doctor be able to refuse a patient because she is a female as he is uncomfortable in inspecting a woman because of his beliefs?
    what is this nonsensical talk? Human beings have an innate desire to protect their modesty and women feel more comfortable with a female doctor. IF she wants one, a female should be provided. Also considering the large amounts of sexual crimes inherent in society these days they feel even more vulnerable. I guess womens rights only come into the equation if saudi stop them driving..

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    Interesting secularists love secularism so much, they will happily allow their wife, daughter or mother to be forced to see a male doctor even if they feel uncomfotable. Great people
    secularism is their religion and you will be forced to follow it no matter what..

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/why-a-bi...rage-in-france

    This is a democratic right in the UK and many other nations around the world.

    The so called bastians of freedom aka French are once again showing they care not for freedom, they are hypocrites and extremists.

    Nice to see some French people waking up to this.
    France is not UK. Freedom to decide which religion to follow or not to follow is a democratic right in UK and many other nations around the world, does Pakistan allow such freedom?

    People who dont allow freedom in their own country talk about freedom in France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    France is not UK. Freedom to decide which religion to follow or not to follow is a democratic right in UK and many other nations around the world, does Pakistan allow such freedom?

    People who dont allow freedom in their own country talk about freedom in France.
    yes , according to the constitution of Pakistan you have that freedom. But Pakistan is an "Islamic" republic and thus there are certain rules that are set due to the shariah e.g. non muslim cannot become leader etc. if Pakistan were a secular republic and went around the world puffing its chest out proclaiming their secularity and liberalism to anybody and everybody, (this includes the freedom to pretty much do what you want within the law), and then proceeded to deny certain rights to certain groups, we would rightly call such a nation a hypocritical nation.

    Secular liberal democracies like France claim they respect peoples religion, and allow freedom of religion but at the same time are slowly degrading those freedoms in the name of national security.

    The truth is the French are struggling to understand their place in the world. French culture is not seen as a global culture, their language is only spoken in some former colonies and is practically non existant as a second language, their economy is propped up by their african subject economies who have to put billions in the french federal reserve bank. Even their military hardware is only really bought by some when compared to china russia the US and the UK.

    Overall inmho they are a country in crisis and an ideology in deep crisis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Great Khan View Post
    yes , according to the constitution of Pakistan you have that freedom. But Pakistan is an "Islamic" republic and thus there are certain rules that are set due to the shariah e.g. non muslim cannot become leader etc. if Pakistan were a secular republic and went around the world puffing its chest out proclaiming their secularity and liberalism to anybody and everybody, (this includes the freedom to pretty much do what you want within the law), and then proceeded to deny certain rights to certain groups, we would rightly call such a nation a hypocritical nation.

    Secular liberal democracies like France claim they respect peoples religion, and allow freedom of religion but at the same time are slowly degrading those freedoms in the name of national security.

    The truth is the French are struggling to understand their place in the world. French culture is not seen as a global culture, their language is only spoken in some former colonies and is practically non existant as a second language, their economy is propped up by their african subject economies who have to put billions in the french federal reserve bank. Even their military hardware is only really bought by some when compared to china russia the US and the UK.

    Overall inmho they are a country in crisis and an ideology in deep crisis.
    Truth is France owes no explanation to anyone. They have their laws, you have yours.

    France is a lot less in crisis than pakistan. Right now pakistan is asking france for a debt relief. Pakistanis should be the last one to rubbish about France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Truth is France owes no explanation to anyone. They have their laws, you have yours.

    France is a lot less in crisis than pakistan. Right now pakistan is asking france for a debt relief. Pakistanis should be the last one to rubbish about France.
    Just because a less than a 100 year old country is in an economic crisis doesn't mean it cannot critique a country that espouses to be the leader of liberty and equality for all but then goes against those values when its ideology is put under a pressure. Pakistan has every right to do so. France's crisis is different to Pakistan's no doubt but it is a crisis nonetheless and it will only get worse for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/why-a-bi...rage-in-france

    This is a democratic right in the UK and many other nations around the world.

    The so called bastians of freedom aka French are once again showing they care not for freedom, they are hypocrites and extremists.

    Nice to see some French people waking up to this.
    Four French police officers have been suspended and are in custody after a video that shows them brutally beating a Black man was posted online Thursday.

    https://www.npr.org/2020/11/27/93949...ating-of-black

    If the new law was in effect then these officers would have likely gotten away with what they did as no one would have been able to record them.


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