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    Woman decapitated as three die in 'suspected terror attack' in Nice

    One person has been killed and several others injured after a knife attack near a church in the southern French city of Nice, according to local media.

    The mayor of Nice said it looked like it was a terrorist incident.

    The suspect has been arrested, Christian Estrosi added.

    French Interior Minister Gerald Darmanin said a police operation was under way in the city.

    Mr Estrosi said the attack had taken place around the Notre-Dame basilica in central Nice.

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    A woman has been decapitated in a suspected terror attack in Nice, French police say.

    Three people have died and several others are injured after a knife attack reportedly took place near the Notre Dame church.

    Nice's mayor Christian Estrosi tweeted: "Everything suggests a terrorist attack."

    He added that one person had been arrested.

    French interior minister Gerald Darmanin said a police operation is under way and encouraged people to stay away from the area.

    It comes as France is under high alert for terrorist attacks.

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    The heck is going on in France?

    #LaFarce


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    Nice 'terror attack': Two people beheaded in church and third person dead, police say.

    Another knife attack in France.



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    This is becoming really ugly now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    This is becoming really ugly now
    Only now?


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    My god not again... However no confirmation yet that this is a Muslim that did it..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Romali_rotti View Post
    My god not again... However no confirmation yet that this is a Muslim that did it..
    Reading the comments of the mayor, he has pretty much confirmed the perp is a Muslim

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldWarHorse View Post
    Reading the comments of the mayor, he has pretty much confirmed the perp is a Muslim
    Knife attacker in French city of Nice shouted "Allahu Akbar" - mayor

    PARIS (Reuters) - The man suspected of carrying out a fatal knife attack at a church in the southern French city of Nice kept shouting “Allahu Akbar” (God is Greatest) even after he had been arrested by police, Nice Mayor Christian Estrosi told reporters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldWarHorse View Post
    Reading the comments of the mayor, he has pretty much confirmed the perp is a Muslim
    The perp is not a muslim.
    Even if he shouts Muslim prayers whilst committing the atrocities, attends mosque regularly and prays a million times a day..he is not a muslim.

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    May God have mercy on France and its people. No one deserves to live in this misery.

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    Unfortunately this is what happens when you push a group of people against the wall. France was forcing its will upon its Muslim population, there were two stabbings of Arab Muslims recently as well.

    Arab Muslims, and Muslims outside of India, tend to have more of a spine and do retaliate when someone attempts to oppress them. France should not expect French Muslims to sit back and be dictated to like their Indian counterparts.


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    This man has done a disservice to all muslims and put them in danger. And i know i will get lambasted for saying it, but Macron's statements has put his citizen in the line of fire. It shouldnt be this way and saying something should never elicit such a response, no way in hell but sometimes you need to have a better assessment of what kind of reaction your statements will generate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegitto1 View Post
    Unfortunately this is what happens when you push a group of people against the wall. France was forcing its will upon its Muslim population, there were two stabbings of Arab Muslims recently as well.

    Arab Muslims, and Muslims outside of India, tend to have more of a spine and do retaliate when someone attempts to oppress them. France should not expect French Muslims to sit back and be dictated to like their Indian counterparts.
    Wow. I completely disagree. There is nothing remotely honourable in doing something like this and its the exact opposite of having a spine.

    France was never going to be cowed into stopping the cartoon. You know whats going to happen now? More people will show it.

    The boycott and hanger at Macron by Muslims had some credibility, the actions of this madman have damaged that also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegitto1 View Post
    Unfortunately this is what happens when you push a group of people against the wall. France was forcing its will upon its Muslim population, there were two stabbings of Arab Muslims recently as well.

    Arab Muslims, and Muslims outside of India, tend to have more of a spine and do retaliate when someone attempts to oppress them. France should not expect French Muslims to sit back and be dictated to like their Indian counterparts.
    And people wonder why Islamophobia exists

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    This guy is not a muslim, hes a pathetic criminal who if survives must be executed in public. There's no way a religion of peace which is the fastest growing in the world teaches this kind of sickening act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    This man has done a disservice to all muslims and put them in danger. And i know i will get lambasted for saying it, but Macron's statements has put his citizen in the line of fire. It shouldnt be this way and saying something should never elicit such a response, no way in hell but sometimes you need to have a better assessment of what kind of reaction your statements will generate.
    Maybe they are in the line of fire temporarily. However actions like this build a real culture of mistrust and vilification that will effect French muslims for generations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    This man has done a disservice to all muslims and put them in danger. And i know i will get lambasted for saying it, but Macron's statements has put his citizen in the line of fire. It shouldnt be this way and saying something should never elicit such a response, no way in hell but sometimes you need to have a better assessment of what kind of reaction your statements will generate.
    Here we go again...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegitto1 View Post
    Unfortunately this is what happens when you push a group of people against the wall. France was forcing its will upon its Muslim population, there were two stabbings of Arab Muslims recently as well.

    Arab Muslims, and Muslims outside of India, tend to have more of a spine and do retaliate when someone attempts to oppress them. France should not expect French Muslims to sit back and be dictated to like their Indian counterparts.
    Pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    The perp is not a muslim.
    Even if he shouts Muslim prayers whilst committing the atrocities, attends mosque regularly and prays a million times a day..he is not a muslim.
    I agree with you mate but I would say he was one... before he got brainwashed into doing such a thing. I dont believe any religion wants people to go around killing others like this. So before committing this sick act or even thinking of this, he may not have been any different from the millions practicing any religion. What is the cause for him to be so influenced by someone/something that they pick up a knife and start slitting throats is the real concern here.


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    1 step forwards, 10 steps back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegitto1 View Post
    Unfortunately this is what happens when you push a group of people against the wall. France was forcing its will upon its Muslim population, there were two stabbings of Arab Muslims recently as well.

    Arab Muslims, and Muslims outside of India, tend to have more of a spine and do retaliate when someone attempts to oppress them. France should not expect French Muslims to sit back and be dictated to like their Indian counterparts.
    Wow, that's an unveiled show of support to beheaders in France and around the world.

    Thank you for suggesting it will never happen in India. We have enough to deal with as it is in our country.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OldWarHorse View Post
    I agree with you mate but I would say he was one... before he got brainwashed into doing such a thing. I dont believe any religion wants people to go around killing others like this. So before committing this sick act or even thinking of this, he may not have been any different from the millions practicing any religion. What is the cause for him to be so influenced by someone/something that they pick up a knife and start slitting throats is the real concern here.
    Are you seriously that naive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miandadrules View Post
    Are you seriously that naive?
    Please elaborate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegitto1 View Post
    Unfortunately this is what happens when you push a group of people against the wall. France was forcing its will upon its Muslim population, there were two stabbings of Arab Muslims recently as well.

    Arab Muslims, and Muslims outside of India, tend to have more of a spine and do retaliate when someone attempts to oppress them. France should not expect French Muslims to sit back and be dictated to like their Indian counterparts.
    Killing innocent people is what you call having a spine.

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    These lone Wolfe's are hard to nail down, be it this coward, Manchester arena terrorist, or the right wing terrorist who massacred in the mosque in new zealand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegitto1 View Post
    Unfortunately this is what happens when you push a group of people against the wall. France was forcing its will upon its Muslim population, there were two stabbings of Arab Muslims recently as well.

    Arab Muslims, and Muslims outside of India, tend to have more of a spine and do retaliate when someone attempts to oppress them. France should not expect French Muslims to sit back and be dictated to like their Indian counterparts.
    Murdering people because of the faith they follow is oppression.

    Making laws and having a constitution that proactively discriminates, suppresses and holds back a people is oppression.

    Showing pictures, regardless of what it is, is NOT oppression. Tasteless, deliberately provocative or otherwise is irrelevant.

    Therein lies the difference and is why your post is ridiculed here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegitto1 View Post
    Unfortunately this is what happens when you push a group of people against the wall. France was forcing its will upon its Muslim population, there were two stabbings of Arab Muslims recently as well.

    Arab Muslims, and Muslims outside of India, tend to have more of a spine and do retaliate when someone attempts to oppress them. France should not expect French Muslims to sit back and be dictated to like their Indian counterparts.

    This post sums up the problem with so many muslims today.

    First, No one pushed anyone to the wall. French muslims are probably more free to practise their religion than most of their counterparts in other places. There is no oppression.

    Projecting the Prophet's cartoons on buildings was provocative and a silly thing to do, but to equate that with 'oppression' and 'pushing to the wall' is equally unnecessary. The issue could have been dealt with greater maturity by all parties that it has.

    And yes, nothing can ever justify beheadings or violence, no matter what the reason. The argument that one deserves to die for what is perceived as 'insulting' a religion is as medieval as they come. It has no place in a modern society.

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    These attacks are evil. What is to be gained by anyone except more hatred

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldWarHorse View Post
    I agree with you mate but I would say he was one... before he got brainwashed into doing such a thing. I dont believe any religion wants people to go around killing others like this. So before committing this sick act or even thinking of this, he may not have been any different from the millions practicing any religion. What is the cause for him to be so influenced by someone/something that they pick up a knife and start slitting throats is the real concern here.
    The cause is, he is mentally deranged. What other reason can there be for attacking random people who have probably nothing to do with any of the garbage we've been subjected to in the last week or so?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegitto1 View Post
    Unfortunately this is what happens when you push a group of people against the wall. France was forcing its will upon its Muslim population, there were two stabbings of Arab Muslims recently as well.

    Arab Muslims, and Muslims outside of India, tend to have more of a spine and do retaliate when someone attempts to oppress them. France should not expect French Muslims to sit back and be dictated to like their Indian counterparts.
    What a pathetic post. In what world is beheading seniors showing spine?

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    I don't know how these attacks will solve any issue. Sad suitation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    The cause is, he is mentally deranged. What other reason can there be for attacking random people who have probably nothing to do with any of the garbage we've been subjected to in the last week or so?
    and there we have it!

    Its really got nothing to do with religion when someone can go around killing people just because they feel insulted.

    If it was a religious problem then there would be so many more people out of the 1.8 billion muslims that would be causing atrocities around the world.

    After all nobody emphasise on the "Christianity" when they refer to the gunmen who kills children in the states and deaths of innocents in the states by shooting far exceeds any mad so-called muslim which decides to drive through people or decapitate innocents on the streets of France or anywhere else in Europe/

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    Three people have been killed in a knife attack in the French city of Nice, police say.

    Nice Mayor Christian Estrosi said there had been a "terrorist attack at the heart of the Notre-Dame basilica".

    One elderly victim who had come to pray was "virtually beheaded". A suspect was shot and detained shortly afterwards.

    Mr Estrosi spoke of "Islamo-fascism" and that the suspect had "repeated endlessly 'Allahu Akbar' (God is greatest)."

    France's national anti-terror prosecutors have opened a murder inquiry. Mr Estrosi compared the attack to the recent murder of teacher Samuel Paty, who was beheaded close to his school outside Paris earlier this month.

    Two further attacks took place on Thursday morning, one in France and one in Saudi Arabia.

    A man was shot dead in Montfavet near Avignon after threatening police with a handgun. And a guard was attacked outside the French consulate in Jeddah. A suspect was arrested and the guard taken to hospital.

    Police have not suggested a motive for the attack. However, it follows days of protests in some Muslim-majority countries triggered by President Macron's defence of French cartoons that depict the Prophet Mohammed. There have been calls in some countries for a boycott of French goods.

    What is known about the attack in Nice?
    Two of those who died were attacked inside the church, the elderly woman and a man who was found with his throat cut, reports said.

    A woman managed to flee to a nearby cafe after being stabbed several times, but died later.

    It later emerged that a witness had managed to raise the alarm with a special protection system set up by the city.

    Chloe, a witness who lives near the church, told the BBC: "We heard many people shouting in the street. We saw from the window that there were many, many policemen coming, and gunshots, many gunshots."

    Tom Vannier, a journalism student who arrived at the scene just after the attack, told the BBC that people were crying on the street.

    French police officers stand at the entrance of the Notre Dame Basilica church in Nice, France, 29 October 2020

    France's interior minister appealed to people to avoid the area in the centre of the French Riviera city. Gérald Darmanin said he was convening a crisis meeting at the ministry in Paris. President Emmanuel Macron will visit the scene later on Thursday.

    A minute's silence was held in the National Assembly, where Prime Minister Jean Castex had just been giving details of Covid-19 lockdown measures coming into force on Thursday night.

    "Without question this is a very serious new challenge that is striking our country," he said, appealing for unity and cohesion.

    The French Council of the Muslim Faith condemned the Nice knife attack and spoke of its solidarity with the victims and their families.

    What's the context?

    Nice was the target of one of France's deadliest attacks in recent years, when a 31-year-old Tunisian drove a truck into crowds celebrating Bastille Day on 14 July 2016, killing 86 people.

    Days later a priest, Father Jacques Hamel, had his throat cut during morning Mass at a church in Rouen.

    Thursday's attack has echoes of another attack earlier this month near a school north-west of Paris. Samuel Paty, who was a teacher in Conflans-Sainte-Honorine, was beheaded days after showing controversial cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad to some of his pupils.

    The murder has heightened tensions in France and the government's attempt to crack down on radical Islam has angered Turkey and other countries.

    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called for a boycott of French goods.

    The situation worsened after a cartoon on Mr Erdogan appeared in the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    The cause is, he is mentally deranged. What other reason can there be for attacking random people who have probably nothing to do with any of the garbage we've been subjected to in the last week or so?
    Ofcourse he is deranged but he didnt just kill random people did he now?
    This surely is a hate crime which needs to be acknowledged just like a white supremacist killing an immigrant/brown/black guy would be. Or somebody lynched for blasphemy or eating beef for that matter. Religious extremism needs to be acknowledged and dealt with. There is no beating around the bush here.
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    Horrific Theres too many mentally unstable people out there Govts must do more to help these individuals rather than antagonising them

    My thoughts and prayers are with the deceased and their families

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldWarHorse View Post
    Ofcourse he is deranged but he didnt just kill random people did he now?
    This surely is a hate crime which needs to be acknowledged just like a white supremacist killing an immigrant/brown/black guy would be. Or somebody lynched for blasphemy or eating beef for that matter. Religious extremism needs to be acknowledged and dealt with. There is no beating around the bush here.
    I don't get it, how were they not random people? They were people in a church, as far as I know they were simply there to worship. Since when was that considered to be a crime punishable by death?


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    This sort of actions fan the flames of Islamophobia. There can never be justification for such actions. This pathetic individual has made our lives even more difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegitto1 View Post
    Unfortunately this is what happens when you push a group of people against the wall. France was forcing its will upon its Muslim population, there were two stabbings of Arab Muslims recently as well.

    Arab Muslims, and Muslims outside of India, tend to have more of a spine and do retaliate when someone attempts to oppress them. France should not expect French Muslims to sit back and be dictated to like their Indian counterparts.
    You are proving Macron right when he said Islam was in a crisis. This sort of mentality is the reason why Muslims worldwide are disliked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    They were people in a church, as far as I know they were simply there to worship. Since when was that considered to be a crime punishable by death?
    The Bangladeshi cricket team had gone to a Mosque to worship in Christchurch hadn't they...why were they attacked then, was it just random?
    The perp here didnt just go mauling random people on the streets, he specifically targetted people in a church while chanting religious slogans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegitto1 View Post
    Unfortunately this is what happens when you push a group of people against the wall. France was forcing its will upon its Muslim population, there were two stabbings of Arab Muslims recently as well.

    Arab Muslims, and Muslims outside of India, tend to have more of a spine and do retaliate when someone attempts to oppress them. France should not expect French Muslims to sit back and be dictated to like their Indian counterparts.
    So beheading someone is having a spine?

    No guy/gal with prospects, career,job,family,responsibility, common sense,social awareness will ever go around killing people even if they think their religion is under a “threat”

    Also yes the so called Indian Muslims that are sitting back are more affluent and prosperous than their counterparts in their neighboring Muslim Countries so there is that.

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    People will never understand me but France really mishandled this cartoon situation, they really botched it

    In every other western country these cartoons are allowed but why is it that only in France we are seeing these attacks happen consistently (for years this cartoon situation charlie hebdo and terror attacks related to it are happening, with other countries atrack happens that's it but there is no continuation like in France

    It's the gov fault for not dealing with this crisis properly)

    To the French Muslim public it seemed he took a side which you just can't do when dealing with these sensitive issues

    That's where France/Macron messed up the handling was pathetic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigboii View Post
    People will never understand me but France really mishandled this cartoon situation, they really botched it

    In every other western country these cartoons are allowed but why is it that only in France we are seeing these attacks happen consistently (for years this cartoon situation charlie hebdo and terror attacks related to it are happening, with other countries atrack happens that's it but there is no continuation like in France

    It's the gov fault for not dealing with this crisis properly)

    To the French Muslim public it seemed he took a side which you just can't do when dealing with these sensitive issues

    That's where France/Macron messed up the handling was pathetic
    Agree totally, this should have been handled much better. In fact he did more than take a side, he actually joined in the abuse by allowing these images to be projected on govt buildings. It was almost a declaration of war against his own subjects.


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    Unfortunately this will ensure Le Pen come into power. They will make Macron look like a saint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    Agree totally, this should have been handled much better. In fact he did more than take a side, he actually joined in the abuse by allowing these images to be projected on govt buildings. It was almost a declaration of war against his own subjects.
    For all the abuse UK gets its nowhere near as right wing as Europe. And UK deserves a lot of credit to handle every situation as well as they can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    Agree totally, this should have been handled much better. In fact he did more than take a side, he actually joined in the abuse by allowing these images to be projected on govt buildings. It was almost a declaration of war against his own subjects.
    A declaration of war over a picture? How about people stop being such snowflakes and insecure about what they believe in.

    The product boycott following a clear statement from other countries highlighting their displeasure was spot on. Not violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miandadrules View Post
    Here we go again...


    Unbelievable.
    No, here YOU go again. What is unbelievable about what i've written?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom View Post
    Maybe they are in the line of fire temporarily. However actions like this build a real culture of mistrust and vilification that will effect French muslims for generations.
    I absolutely agree. Thats why i wrote this man has done a disservice to muslims and this is a crime against humanity, no question about it.

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    Beheadings Saudi style.

    Sar tan se juda!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gani999 View Post
    This post sums up the problem with so many muslims today.

    First, No one pushed anyone to the wall. French muslims are probably more free to practise their religion than most of their counterparts in other places. There is no oppression.

    Projecting the Prophet's cartoons on buildings was provocative and a silly thing to do, but to equate that with 'oppression' and 'pushing to the wall' is equally unnecessary. The issue could have been dealt with greater maturity by all parties that it has.

    And yes, nothing can ever justify beheadings or violence, no matter what the reason. The argument that one deserves to die for what is perceived as 'insulting' a religion is as medieval as they come. It has no place in a modern society.
    Totally agree. I don't have words to express my sentiments on such posts. The mentality of many Muslims is shocking to say the least. Unfortunately many such radical Muslims live in places such as UK and other modern countries and are a threat to the local population and other immigrants (moderate Muslims locals and immigrants included). Should restrict themselves to Saudi or other extremist Islamic countries where they can find a good company of people who think like them.

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    If you don’t like France, you don’t need to live there.

    Serious introspection required from Muslim community about why these attacks keep happening and how they can be stopped. Saying the person isn’t a real Muslim / has no religion is disingenuous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegitto1 View Post
    Unfortunately this is what happens when you push a group of people against the wall. France was forcing its will upon its Muslim population, there were two stabbings of Arab Muslims recently as well.

    Arab Muslims, and Muslims outside of India, tend to have more of a spine and do retaliate when someone attempts to oppress them. France should not expect French Muslims to sit back and be dictated to like their Indian counterparts.
    Those spines will be bent backwards as their ghettos are going to get raided. Their neighborhoods will be infiltrated. The mosques will be under surveillance. I've seen this in US after 9/11. The full force of police will be unleashed on these neighborhoods. You know the rest

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    Where was this uproar and holier than thou attitude when two Arab women were stabbed in Paris last week?



    No innocents should be harmed but atleast be neutral and call out when Muslims are also hurt/killed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigboii View Post
    People will never understand me but France really mishandled this cartoon situation, they really botched it

    In every other western country these cartoons are allowed but why is it that only in France we are seeing these attacks happen consistently (for years this cartoon situation charlie hebdo and terror attacks related to it are happening, with other countries atrack happens that's it but there is no continuation like in France

    It's the gov fault for not dealing with this crisis properly)

    To the French Muslim public it seemed he took a side which you just can't do when dealing with these sensitive issues

    That's where France/Macron messed up the handling was pathetic
    I fully agree. Good post.

    Macron needed to do a better job.



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    Really tragic incident. I fully condemn this attack.

    Having said that, I wonder if Charlie Hebdo realizes what it has done. France was relatively peaceful until CH decided to be irresponsible with their cartoons.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    Really tragic incident. I fully condemn this attack.

    Having said that, I wonder if Charlie Hebdo realizes what it has done. France was relatively peaceful until CH decided to be irresponsible with their cartoons.
    France was peaceful until the locals were toeing with what some radical Muslims wanted. CH exposed the underlying anger and fanaticism in the radical Muslim population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    France was peaceful until the locals were toeing with what some radical Muslims wanted. CH exposed the underlying anger and fanaticism in the radical Muslim population.
    Fanaticism is like racism. Every group has a few.

    CH was highly irresponsible when they decided to disrupt social harmony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    Really tragic incident. I fully condemn this attack.

    Having said that, I wonder if Charlie Hebdo realizes what it has done. France was relatively peaceful until CH decided to be irresponsible with their cartoons.
    Yeah but what about freedom of speech?

    Amazing really, if i start making cartoon caricatures of black americans and publishing them, and it causes anger among black americans, and there are riots, and people start killing each other, its their fault yeah ? i was just utilising my right to free speech.

    Also why the hell should muslims have to come out and apologise for something 2 nutters have done out of 2 billion people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sycamore View Post
    Yeah but what about freedom of speech?

    Amazing really, if i start making cartoon caricatures of black americans and publishing them, and it causes anger among black americans, and there are riots, and people start killing each other, its their fault yeah ? i was just utilising my right to free speech.

    Also why the hell should muslims have to come out and apologise for something 2 nutters have done out of 2 billion people?
    How about you make 'funny' cartoons of Auschwitz and let's see how far this 'freedom of speech' rhetoric takes you.

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    PARIS (AP) — PARIS — An attacker armed with a knife killed three people at a church Thursday in the Mediterranean city of Nice, French authorities said, prompting the prime minister to announce that France was raising its security alert status to the highest level.

    It was the third attack in two months in France amid a growing furor in the Muslim world over caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad that were re-published by the satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo.

    Other confrontations and attacks were reported Thursday in the southern French city of Avignon and in the Saudi city of Jiddah, but it was not immediately clear if they were linked to the attack in Nice.

    Thursday’s assailant in Nice was wounded by police and hospitalized after the killings at the Notre Dame Basilica, less than a kilometer (half-mile) from the site in 2016 where another attacker plowed a truck into a Bastille Day crowd, killing dozens of people.

    France’s anti-terrorism prosecutor’s office opened an investigation into the Nice killings, which marked the third attack since the September opening of the trial of 14 people linked to the January 2015 killings at Charlie Hebdo and a kosher supermarket by gunmen who claimed allegiance to the Islamic State group and al-Qaida.

    Thursday’s attacker was believed to be acting alone and police are not searching for other assailants, said two police officials, who were not authorized to be publicly named.

    “He cried ‘Allah Akbar!’ over and over, even after he was injured,” said Nice Mayor Christian Estrosi, who told BFM television that two women and a man had died, two inside the church and a third who fled to a nearby bar but was mortally wounded. “The meaning of his gesture left no doubt.”

    French media showed the Nice neighborhood locked down and surrounded by police and emergency vehicles. Sounds of explosions could be heard as sappers exploded suspicious objects.

    The lower house of parliament suspended a debate on France’s new virus restrictions and held a moment of silence Thursday for the victims. Prime Minister Jean Castex rushed from the hall to a crisis center overseeing the aftermath of the Nice attack and later returned to announce the alert level increase. French President Emmanuel Macron was headed to Nice later in the day.

    In Avignon on Thursday morning, an armed man was shot to death by police after he refused to drop his weapon and a flash-ball shot failed to stop him, one police official said. And a Saudi state-run news agency said a man stabbed a guard at the French consulate in Jiddah, wounding the guard before he was arrested.

    Islamic State extremists had issued a video on Wednesday renewing calls for attacks against France.

    Many groups and nations, however, issued their condolences Thursday, standing firmly with France.

    The French Council of the Muslim Faith condemned the Nice attack and called on French Muslims to refrain from festivities this week marking the birth of Muhammad “as a sign of mourning and in solidarity with the victims and their loved ones.”

    Turkey’s Foreign Ministry strongly condemned the attack in Nice. “We stand in solidarity with the people of France against terror and violence,” the statement said.

    Relations between Turkey and France hit a new low after Turkey’s president on Saturday accused Macron of Islamophobia over the caricatures and questioned his mental health, prompting Paris to recall its ambassador to Turkey for consultations.

    The attack in Nice came less than two weeks after another assailant beheaded a French middle school teacher who showed the caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad for a class on free speech. Those caricatures were published by Charlie Hebdo and cited by the men who gunned down the newspaper’s editorial meeting in 2015.

    In September, a man who had sought asylum in France attacked bystanders outside Charlie Hebdo’s former offices with a butcher knife.

    https://apnews.com/article/internati...72280b8188f8ab


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigboii View Post
    People will never understand me but France really mishandled this cartoon situation, they really botched it

    In every other western country these cartoons are allowed but why is it that only in France we are seeing these attacks happen consistently (for years this cartoon situation charlie hebdo and terror attacks related to it are happening, with other countries atrack happens that's it but there is no continuation like in France

    It's the gov fault for not dealing with this crisis properly)

    To the French Muslim public it seemed he took a side which you just can't do when dealing with these sensitive issues

    That's where France/Macron messed up the handling was pathetic
    Agreed Its the govts failings that had led directly to the situation france is facing today

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sycamore View Post
    Also why the hell should muslims have to come out and apologise for something 2 nutters have done out of 2 billion people?
    Its actually better that the ones who feel like giving justifications for these murders come out and do it. Helps others form an opinion about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    France was peaceful until the locals were toeing with what some radical Muslims wanted. CH exposed the underlying anger and fanaticism in the radical Muslim population.
    France was peaceful until radicals like macron and hebdo decided to incite a minority population that like anyone else just wants to live peacefully without provocation or discrimination

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaz View Post
    France was peaceful until radicals like macron and hebdo decided to incite a minority population that like anyone else just wants to live peacefully without provocation or discrimination
    Unfair to club together the entire minority population and the killers, i.e., the radical Muslims. I'm sure the former don't want you to do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    Unfair to club together the entire minority population and the killers, i.e., the radical Muslims. I'm sure the former don't want you to do this.
    errr Macron was the one who did that, go read his statements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sycamore View Post
    errr Macron was the one who did that, go read his statements.
    He's wrong as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    The cause is, he is mentally deranged. What other reason can there be for attacking random people who have probably nothing to do with any of the garbage we've been subjected to in the last week or so?
    100% agree

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    About time macron apologised and diffused the situation instead of further inciting it

    Hope the deranged killer(s) are apprehended and face justice

    This *** for tat needs to stop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaz View Post
    Agreed Its the govts failings that had led directly to the situation france is facing today
    The world is now trying to bully muslims it seems. That they will insult us, our faith, our identity and we have to take it lying down. They seem to be sensitive for black people, jews who died in holocaust, LGBTQ community etc but want to make it a point that muslims have to take all the abuse and ridicule.

    Ofcourse, abominable crimes like these are appaling but they will continue to take place because there will always be a total nut waiting to go off in a grand style as long as garbage and evil agencies like charlie hebdo and inept mental midgets like Macron keep marginalizing and polarising an already isolated community.

    These crimes are bad but are a separate problem. we must not accept that it is anyone's right to abuse and humiliate us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thulsa View Post
    A declaration of war over a picture? How about people stop being such snowflakes and insecure about what they believe in.

    The product boycott following a clear statement from other countries highlighting their displeasure was spot on. Not violence.
    Declaration of war isn't meant to be taken in a literal sense, it's a figure of speech for goodness sake. My word, some people are such snowflakes and full of insecurity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thulsa View Post
    The product boycott following a clear statement from other countries highlighting their displeasure was spot on. Not violence.
    When has turkey or pakistan threatened any violence?
    They cant be responsible for mentally unstable lone wolfs

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    Considering how easy it is to rile people to commit atrocities - I would posit that things being taken literally is exactly the problem.

    You can joust with verbal gymnastics as much as you like, but some of the posts in this thread ‘yes but what about’ is really tragic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    The world is now trying to bully muslims it seems. That they will insult us, our faith, our identity and we have to take it lying down. They seem to be sensitive for black people, jews who died in holocaust, LGBTQ community etc but want to make it a point that muslims have to take all the abuse and ridicule.

    Ofcourse, abominable crimes like these are appaling but they will continue to take place because there will always be a total nut waiting to go off in a grand style as long as garbage and evil agencies like charlie hebdo and inept mental midgets like Macron keep marginalizing and polarising an already isolated community.

    These crimes are bad but are a separate problem. we must not accept that it is anyone's right to abuse and humiliate us.
    Assuming what you are saying is true, then a bit of self-introspection by Muslims to find why this is happening would probably help a bit. Why is everyone, as you say, against Muslims?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    If that's the case then a bit of self-introspection by Muslims to find why this is happening would probably help a bit. Why is everyone, as you say, against Muslims?
    Why were the jews massacred? Why were the blacks massacred and enslaved? LGBT People?

    Will you ask a jew, a black man or a gay person to introspect why he is being bullied or humiliated?

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    It appears France has decided it's a religious war.

    "Fomer French President Francois Hollande says: “Once again, Nice is struck by barbarism, once again France is attacked by Islamist terrorism. Democracy is our weapon, it will always be the strongest against its enemies. I extend my solidarity to the families of the victims and to all Christians.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    Why were the jews massacred? Why were the blacks massacred and enslaved? LGBT People?

    Will you ask a jew, a black man or a gay person to introspect why he is being bullied or humiliated?
    The entire world did not massacre the jews. Not the same comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    Why were the jews massacred? Why were the blacks massacred and enslaved? LGBT People?

    Will you ask a jew, a black man or a gay person to introspect why he is being bullied or humiliated?
    When the late Mr Flloyd was killed - what emerged was a call to action. There was looting and crime but the overwhelming message was of ‘enough’ and it unified all people in America to really self reflect. Not all but I’d like to think it was for the majority.

    I don’t however recall Black people beheading the police.

    Come to think of it, I cannot recall a LGBT individual beheading anyone because they were on the receiving end of an insult.

    See the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    The entire world did not massacre the jews. Not the same comparison.
    This response sums it up. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thulsa View Post
    When the late Mr Flloyd was killed - what emerged was a call to action. There was looting and crime but the overwhelming message was of ‘enough’ and it unified all people in America to really self reflect. Not all but I’d like to think it was for the majority.

    I don’t however recall Black people beheading the police.

    Come to think of it, I cannot recall a LGBT individual beheading anyone because they were on the receiving end of an insult.

    See the difference?
    This is what happens when you're taught your religion is perfect and the only true religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigboii View Post
    People will never understand me but France really mishandled this cartoon situation, they really botched it

    In every other western country these cartoons are allowed but why is it that only in France we are seeing these attacks happen consistently (for years this cartoon situation charlie hebdo and terror attacks related to it are happening, with other countries atrack happens that's it but there is no continuation like in France

    It's the gov fault for not dealing with this crisis properly)

    To the French Muslim public it seemed he took a side which you just can't do when dealing with these sensitive issues

    That's where France/Macron messed up the handling was pathetic
    The simple truth is that unlike other countries Macron, the PM, got involved. I think he thought this was an easy lay up to garner some support for his flailing political standing. Only a few years ago when he won the elections, his approval rating was 77% or something and now it’s in 27-28% due to his botched handling of coronavirus. There were protests against his economic policies even before coronavirus took hold. So as a leader he is at an all time low. So he played the old, predictable and trusty right wing, fear mongering dog whistle which he had always accused one of his opponents (Marine Le Pen) of. But I think even he couldn’t imagine it would have escalated like this.

    Now before anyone jumps at me; I put 100% Blame on the French muslim perpetrators and there is no doubt about that. no matter what macron says such a reaction is not justifiable and is frankly senseless. But I think what I’ve said is the reason why France in under target more.


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