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    Backing of Sarfaraz Ahmed by some

    So whats the obsession with Sarfaraz? So many people in media and former players back him.

    There seems to be very less discussion on recent performances of Rizwan but some people are going gaga over Sarfaraz being dropped.

    I just wanna know whats soo especial about him that he is being backed soo much? Today he scored 130 in Quaid Azam Trophy and now its all over media.
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    Rizwan gets more backing here. Both are equally terrible. Would much rather settle the entire issue by grooming Rohail Nazir as the player for the future.

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    Let’s be honest.

    There is a strong lobby to keep Sarfaraz out, be it right or wrong. This is why Rizwan’s flaws will be overlooked, excuses will be made to justify his poor performances.

    Rizwan for Tests yes.

    Another keeper please for ODI and T20s

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    Sir i am not saying that Both Rizwan and Sarfaraz are bad but people like rashid latif and noman seems to back sarfaraz all the time. I dont see anyone praising Amir yamin or saud shakeel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Rizwan gets more backing here. Both are equally terrible. Would much rather settle the entire issue by grooming Rohail Nazir as the player for the future.
    The reason why Rizwan gets more backing is because for a start people had enough of the barking racist specialist captain who was awful for good few years. Furthermore, Rizwan is by a country mile better wicket keeper and batsmen then him.

    Coming to Rohail Nazir I have seen enough of him to know he will be average unless he improves dramatically. He's no way near Rizwan. If case you have forgotten Rizwan has been our second best test batsmen in last 2 away series. Something which sarfraz could ever dream off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MachoKhan View Post
    Sir i am not saying that Both Rizwan and Sarfaraz are bad but people like rashid latif and noman seems to back sarfaraz all the time. I dont see anyone praising Amir yamin or saud shakeel?
    I understand this concern. The regional bias needs to stop and not be taken seriously.

    It’s something we Pakistanis in general are not good at when it comes to rewarding on merit. I was seeing debates/questions being raised about Imam ul Haq, Abid Ali, Haider Ali, Iftikhar Ahmed, Faheem Ashraf, Harris Rauf. For some reason the bar set for these guys is on Par with AB Devilliers, Rohit Sharma, Ben Stokes and Rabada etc, whereas these guys are still performing some what....but nobody cares to question Rizwan’s clear misplacement in the limited overs international arena.

    All I would like is fair consistency when it comes to criticism and appraisal of players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khan12 View Post
    The reason why Rizwan gets more backing is because for a start people had enough of the barking racist specialist captain who was awful for good few years. Furthermore, Rizwan is by a country mile better wicket keeper and batsmen then him.

    Coming to Rohail Nazir I have seen enough of him to know he will be average unless he improves dramatically. He's no way near Rizwan. If case you have forgotten Rizwan has been our second best test batsmen in last 2 away series. Something which sarfraz could ever dream off.
    I have not discounted him as a Test keeper. We don’t have a player capable of averaging 45+ and keep wickets like the great keeper batsmen of Test cricket do. As an ODI and T20i player, I’m not convinced with Rizwan.

    This isn’t personal or regional bias, or that I prefer a person from my region or friends circle ahead of him.

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    After the wicketkeeping skills he showed in England, Rizwan will get an extended spell in the team in all three formats. It's a shame as I feel he's not cut out for T20's.

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    The only reason he gets backing is because of where he is from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    I have not discounted him as a Test keeper. We don’t have a player capable of averaging 45+ and keep wickets like the great keeper batsmen of Test cricket do. As an ODI and T20i player, I’m not convinced with Rizwan.

    This isn’t personal or regional bias, or that I prefer a person from my region or friends circle ahead of him.
    If Rizwan is flopping consistently then drop him. I support Pakistan not KPK where I am from. In that match thread I said he played a pathetic shot and played an awful innings in the last game too. He's had 2 games let's judge his performance after 10 games if he flopping I will give someone new a go racist sarfraz isn't that answer. Idealy would want someone who can hit as a wicket keeper. But we don't have those options yet and he's the best option at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MachoKhan View Post
    Sir i am not saying that Both Rizwan and Sarfaraz are bad but people like rashid latif and noman seems to back sarfaraz all the time. I dont see anyone praising Amir yamin or saud shakeel?
    Rashid latif is a clown of the highest order along with Norman. Saud would have been a regular
    For Pakistan team if they gave him opportunities. Always playing the regional card these sorry people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MachoKhan View Post
    So whats the obsession with Sarfaraz? So many people in media and former players back him.

    There seems to be very less discussion on recent performances of Rizwan but some people are going gaga over sarfaraz being dropped.

    I just wanna know whats soo especial about him that he is being backed soo much? Today he scored 130 in Quaid Azam Trophy and now its all over media.
    Sarfaraz has made some what of a cult following that Afridi had made. Not in terms of comparing Afridi's popularity to sarfaraz which he doesn't come near to. The following is such that it is a dedicated fandom that will defend anything sarfaraz says or does. However there was a certain disdain with which he was removed from captaincy, and it was really poorly handled by the management to remove him from all 3 formats without any justifiable reasoning, made his abject performances to be forgotten or to look at his own form objectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wreck_It_Rauf View Post
    After the wicketkeeping skills he showed in England, Rizwan will get an extended spell in the team in all three formats. It's a shame as I feel he's not cut out for T20's.
    Rizwan has flattered to deceive in the past as well. No doubt about his test credentials, I still don't buy him as t20 and ODI specialist. (Yes I have seen his 2 centuries in losing causes, as well as his performances in t20s in the national t20 cup)

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    If management hadn't forced him out in all 3 formats. I mean sure Test Matches I agree that he wasn't going anywhere with his captaincy. However ODI's and T20s are a completely different matter altogether. Mickey/Sarfaraz combination did relatively well than the previous Misbah and Waqar regime. In T20s we dominated impressively as well. You can't just do undo all the good work done in a few days by changing and switching everything around. I think eventually they would've had to step down seeing the performances were not improving. But to use that Srilanka series to ouster from all 3 formats was a bit too much.
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    I've noticed some posters pipe up for him just because they're from the same city as him: Karachi.


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    Sarfraz should not be back in the squad unfortunately

    As for rizwan he should 100 percent be first choice in tests.
    As for odis for the time being am willing to give rizwan two series but we need to develop rohail or mo haris.
    In t20s he should not be first choice he needs to develop his power hitting by 50 percent more

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    When you have two terrible options, it’s always likely for them to have their backers and detractors. So please move along and get a life.

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    So that Dr Noman from PTV is already after rizwan now. According to him hes the new fav of the management. Also as per him rizwan shod not be made vice capt because of sarfaraz being in the team lol as if whenever sarfaraz is in the team rizwan should not be given any responsibilities. This guy loves sarfaraz and hates rizwan.

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    Rizwan is not a T20 player and he probably will not be successful in ODIs either. However, given that he is a crucial part of our test squad, it is better to waste a spot in LOIs on Rizwan for sake of test cricket than to waste it on Sarfraz (who only fills the Sindh/senior quota in the squad).

    Ideally, Pakistan should start to groom Rohail against SA during the home series but knowing Misbah, Rohail will probably warm the bench till 23'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varun View Post
    I've noticed some posters pipe up for him just because they're from the same city as him: Karachi.
    This is true. You will see Rizwan slander all over Facebook and Twitter too. Go on to their page and their location will always be Karachi


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    Quote Originally Posted by GudduBadmash View Post
    This is true. You will see Rizwan slander all over Facebook and Twitter too. Go on to their page and their location will always be Karachi
    Rizwan is a good test player
    Okay odi player
    And below average t20 player

    Safraz we need to move on from him

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    Why does he keep getting picked?

    His international career is done. He is not providing competition to Rizwan anymore.

    He is not getting selected simply as a backup to Rizwan. He is clearly getting backed by someone influential in PCB.

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    Only reason I can think of for his selection is that he provides some sort of dressing room leadership/presence.

    Otherwise, the Sarfraz hasn't played a match in 3 months. Is he even match fit at this point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Why does he keep getting picked?

    His international career is done. He is not providing competition to Rizwan anymore.

    He is not getting selected simply as a backup to Rizwan. He is clearly getting backed by someone influential in PCB.
    He will get dropped the moment Nazir or someone else steps up in the PSL.

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    It would make more sense to pick Rohail Nazir as Rizwan's understudy than to keep on picking Sarfaraz to carry the drinks and towels.

    Are they trying to just keep him happy because he is a former skipper.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    It would make more sense to pick Rohail Nazir as Rizwan's understudy than to keep on picking Sarfaraz to carry the drinks and towels.

    Are they trying to just keep him happy because he is a former skipper.
    not just him but a whole lobby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    It would make more sense to pick Rohail Nazir as Rizwan's understudy than to keep on picking Sarfaraz to carry the drinks and towels.

    Are they trying to just keep him happy because he is a former skipper.
    I think Waseem doesn;t want pick a fight with the gang behind Sarfraz at this point.

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    Well I actually didnít mind Sarfaraz being in the squad all this time. This actually gives both Rohail and young keeper from Sindh the chance to play domestic cricket..if you reverse it then Rohail will spend time on bench all the time while on national duty and Sarfaraz will play domestic cricket in place of Hassan/Azam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    I think Waseem doesn;t want pick a fight with the gang behind Sarfraz at this point.
    Very true, but he will have to drop him one day and face the music.



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    M Wasim actually answered a question like this.

    He said he will look in the PSL for other options and then mentioned Azam Khan + Rohail Nazir.

    So he is eying one of Azam or Rohail for the backup WK spot in T20's.


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    Regardless of sarfraz personal form I felt he captained us well and was very tactically astute in t20s, maybe he is being kept in the camp so players can learn from his experiences, sounds very un pakistan like but is a possibility.

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    Now that Sarfraz isnt the captain, he is bereft of his only strength in t20 format, he doesnt provide anything in either middle order or top order. Should have simply been dropped for some younger option that can be tested if Rizwan cant make the spot his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentkiller187 View Post
    Regardless of sarfraz personal form I felt he captained us well and was very tactically astute in t20s, maybe he is being kept in the camp so players can learn from his experiences, sounds very un pakistan like but is a possibility.
    Unless the guy has resigned from captaincy voluntarily, one can't provide a voice in dressing room, something clear from sarfraz' body language since the sacking. Shoaib malik and hafeez do that cause they themselves gave up captaincy and are a guaranteed pick in the eleven when selected.

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    Like I already said, putting gloves on the trainer would be better than selecting Sarfraz as back-up keeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince of Pakistan View Post
    M Wasim actually answered a question like this.

    He said he will look in the PSL for other options and then mentioned Azam Khan + Rohail Nazir.

    So he is eying one of Azam or Rohail for the backup WK spot in T20's.
    Well, why not give them exposure now. What difference will a couple of months make.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Varun View Post
    I've noticed some posters pipe up for him just because they're from the same city as him: Karachi.
    Not just being from Karachi , because he from a certain ethnic group and always playing the victim card with no actual basis .
    THis is one of the sickest mindset prevalent ib our country and it need to go.

    Misbah is a coward and gave in to the pressure as he has shown earlier. There is no logical explanation to select Sarfaraz in place of Haider who is the future of our team, just silly decision like his previous decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sohailmm View Post
    Not just being from Karachi , because he from a certain ethnic group and always playing the victim card with no actual basis .
    THis is one of the sickest mindset prevalent ib our country and it need to go.

    Misbah is a coward and gave in to the pressure as he has shown earlier. There is no logical explanation to select Sarfaraz in place of Haider who is the future of our team, just silly decision like his previous decisions.
    I am gonna start a protest if they don't fire Misbah and Waqar after this series. FGS they are incompetent mindsets.

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    Isn't it so obvious? Let me say this as an urdu speaking Karachiite.

    He is blindly backed due to his ethnicity and city. You will find people who don't even follow cricket backing him regardless of form or performances. If you ask them why they support Sarfraz so much then after debating for 30 minutes with all kind of weird logics, they will finally admit that he is apna (Karachi wala +muhajir) so he should be backed against Punjabi mafia. Performances and results don't matter to them at all.

    In the past Afridi enjoyed this backing as well but Sarfraz gets the extra love due to his ethnicity.


    Lets share the weird excuses you have heard from his supporters.

    1. Sarfraz Hafiz-e-Quran hai is kay team main honay say barkat hoti hai.
    2. Sarfraz mulk kay liye khelta hai is liye Pubjabi is ko chalne nahi detey.
    3. 2019 World Cup main group bandi hogayi warna World cup jitwa deta kaptaan.
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    Wonder if his going to be up to his old tricks again today & shout at his team mates.

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    He should only play if rizwan is injured.he doesnt warrant a place in the team as a batter.

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    It is the Karachi media and Karachi mafia. They need to be dealt with.

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    Pathetic lobby back to their antics of defending Sarfraz as if he's their God.

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    I can understand backing of azam khan as a t20 hitter but how people can support a club level cricketer like sarfraz is beyond me

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    Quote Originally Posted by aukhan View Post
    Isn't it so obvious? Let me say this as an urdu speaking Karachiite.

    He is blindly backed due to his ethnicity and city. You will find people who don't even follow cricket backing him regardless of form or performances. If you ask them why they support Sarfraz so much then after debating for 30 minutes with all kind of weird logics, they will finally admit that he is apna (Karachi wala +muhajir) so he should be backed against Punjabi mafia. Performances and results don't matter to them at all.

    In the past Afridi enjoyed this backing as well but Sarfraz gets the extra love due to his ethnicity.


    Lets share the weird excuses you have heard from his supporters.

    1. Sarfraz Hafiz-e-Quran hai is kay team main honay say barkat hoti hai.
    2. Sarfraz mulk kay liye khelta hai is liye Pubjabi is ko chalne nahi detey.
    3. 2019 World Cup main group bandi hogayi warna World cup jitwa deta kaptaan.
    i hear u ... ( i am pure lahori so keep that in mind)

    I dont care if all XI is from khi or lahore or islamabad or peshwar or wasiristan or quetta as long as they are the best XI.

    while people running the show in management might be and probably are biased, its a shame that the supporters like us are bias

    i dont give a rats if its Dahanni who wins me the game or Nauman Ali or Naseem Shash or Shaeen Shah or Rzwan or Babar or Sharjeel or Azam khan.... i just want Pak to win

    i hated Azam Khan when he played for Quetta bcz 1) didnt know him and 2) he was def picked bcz of Moin khan links

    but now, i want him in the team above anyone at no5 ...

    so stop being stupid racist... just pick the best 15...

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    Sarfaraz Ahmed Demoted To 'Category C' In PCB Central Contract. The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has decided to demote Sarfaraz Ahmed to 'category c' in new central contract. Sarfaraz Ahmed oversaw a period as captain when Pakistan clinched the 2017 Champions Trophy but exited the 2019 World Cup in the group-stage.


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    Quote Originally Posted by King_Kohli View Post
    Sarfaraz Ahmed Demoted To 'Category C' In PCB Central Contract. The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has decided to demote Sarfaraz Ahmed to 'category c' in new central contract. Sarfaraz Ahmed oversaw a period as captain when Pakistan clinched the 2017 Champions Trophy but exited the 2019 World Cup in the group-stage.
    Based on the current team situation, requirements and his own form, he should consider himself very lucky to have been given a C contract.

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    Very lucky that he has been given a contract and is only because they don't have another established wicket keeper batesman but I do expect Rohail to get a contract soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Rizwan gets more backing here. Both are equally terrible. Would much rather settle the entire issue by grooming Rohail Nazir as the player for the future.
    Riswan is Goldberg compared to Gilberg aka Sarfraz, Wisden Cricketer of the year and an inspirational leader. He even won the PSL! Sarfraz just about managed to catch a breath! in between all those Biryani spoonfuls

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    On what basis is he a part of the Eng tour?

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    Respect for Sarfaraz for winning CT, Remained No. 1 T20 team under his captaincy and winning PSL Final once. Please don't shout at me now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake View Post
    On what basis is he a part of the Eng tour?
    I guess it's because the selectors don't yet have faith in Rohail or Azam to be the back-up wicket-keeper to Rizwan.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    I guess it's because the selectors don't yet have faith in Rohail or Azam to be the back-up wicket-keeper to Rizwan.
    But, are all teams carrying a back-up wk? If so, then it makes sense.

    But if not, then this is ridiculous as Rizwan is the last person who needs to have a back-up! The guy is first name along with Babar on the team sheet!

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    People should understand what backing means??

    Reluctantly , Sarfaraz has to be in team because else there would be huge cries in media and public; Mis bah has not given him a chance to play ; and now can't even drop him from squad

    Backing is what Ifti and Asif got;;; 0 performances, no contributions, still played so many games

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    Quote Originally Posted by iniqbal223 View Post
    People should understand what backing means??

    Reluctantly , Sarfaraz has to be in team because else there would be huge cries in media and public; Mis bah has not given him a chance to play ; and now can't even drop him from squad

    Backing is what Ifti and Asif got;;; 0 performances, no contributions, still played so many games
    Ifti played 12 T20 and averages 40+
    Asif played 29
    Haider has played 15

    Haider made his debut 4 years after Ifti did.

    Our fans are so dishonest it's sad. Nothing fair about the way IA has been treated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Based on the current team situation, requirements and his own form, he should consider himself very lucky to have been given a C contract.
    Agree with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake View Post
    But, are all teams carrying a back-up wk? If so, then it makes sense.

    But if not, then this is ridiculous as Rizwan is the last person who needs to have a back-up! The guy is first name along with Babar on the team sheet!
    The problem being if Rizwan gets injured, Sarfaraz is there as a backup as the selectors obviously feel the younger guys aren't up to it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake View Post
    But, are all teams carrying a back-up wk? If so, then it makes sense.

    But if not, then this is ridiculous as Rizwan is the last person who needs to have a back-up! The guy is first name along with Babar on the team sheet!
    Yes, it is essential to carry a backup keeper, you cant go back to the days of besharam Sarfraz who never carried a backup with him which meant he knew his place was never in danger but PCB should be looking at some other players for back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runner Up View Post
    Respect for Sarfaraz for winning CT, Remained No. 1 T20 team under his captaincy and winning PSL Final once. Please don't shout at me now.
    Sarfaraz did not "win" CT17 ... people like Amir, Hassan, Fakhar Zaman, Azhar Ali did. Sarfaraz apart from one inning in the whole tournament was mediocre at best.

    I do not want to go down this road but he literally averages 15,17 ... in SENA countries where Rizwan averages ... make a guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aukhan View Post
    Isn't it so obvious? Let me say this as an urdu speaking Karachiite.

    He is blindly backed due to his ethnicity and city. You will find people who don't even follow cricket backing him regardless of form or performances. If you ask them why they support Sarfraz so much then after debating for 30 minutes with all kind of weird logics, they will finally admit that he is apna (Karachi wala +muhajir) so he should be backed against Punjabi mafia. Performances and results don't matter to them at all.

    In the past Afridi enjoyed this backing as well but Sarfraz gets the extra love due to his ethnicity.


    Lets share the weird excuses you have heard from his supporters.

    1. Sarfraz Hafiz-e-Quran hai is kay team main honay say barkat hoti hai.
    2. Sarfraz mulk kay liye khelta hai is liye Pubjabi is ko chalne nahi detey.
    3. 2019 World Cup main group bandi hogayi warna World cup jitwa deta kaptaan.
    Thankyou for being honest. I am also from Karachi (maternally urdu). Everything you said is perfect. I was seeing a TV show recently which is hosted by a Karachi urdu guy where he was calling Sarfaraz words like "legend" "Ace cricketer". lol

    Our boy averages 15, 16 and 23 in SENA countries. He is unfit, has on field attitude issues, bats like a hack but he is "ace" because his ethnicity matches with those who literally own two biggest media houses in Pakistan (both in Karachi). You wont see same mafia praising Rizwan after his World class performances or Azhar Ali for reaching ~7K test runs @ 45 or yasir shah for taking close to 300 wickets. Sooner Sarfaraz is gone, the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post

    Kumar Sangkara is anti..... Lol

    That was a shambolic effort from the vetran. You are with the gloves on and you are not even trying. Brilliant catch by Shadab. That was a great recovery. But instead of being congratulated he was being yelled at once again by Sarfraz. Pathetic. He lives in his own lalaland.

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    Embarrassing (lack of) effort. It was laughable, really. And it was obvious that everyone was laughing at Sarfraz and what a joke of a cricketer he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwoodOriginal View Post
    Embarrassing (lack of) effort. It was laughable, really. And it was obvious that everyone was laughing at Sarfraz and what a joke of a cricketer he is.
    I doubt anyone from the same team that just got wiped 3-nil against a depleted England side would be laughing at all, much less at a former captain of PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmarKhan99 View Post
    I doubt anyone from the same team that just got wiped 3-nil against a depleted England side would be laughing at all, much less at a former captain of PCT.
    I was, and so were the commentators. I'm sure many other people who saw it live were laughing too.

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    Rashid Latif speaking on a YouTube channel:

    'Why was Mickey Arthur removed...what was the reason for his sacking? The team had done well under him and it was progressing well. Check the records and you can see but he was removed because of politics,'

    Latif also said that Sarfaraz should not have been sacked.

    'I don't blame Misbah-ul Haq, perhaps he didn't want to be head coach. He was young and inexperienced as a coach so why appoint him? It is the PCB to be blamed for what has happened'

    'Today we have lost to a second string England team badly in the One-Day series which means that our cricket is not good enough to even beat England's bench strength.'

    'Let's just hope they can bounce back because we can't afford anymore setbacks.' PTI Cor SSC SSC SSC


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    I was watching him at Trent Bridge yesterday and I sort of felt a bit sorry for him really.

    The former CT17 winning skipper, the former leader, now just literally one of the reserves in the squad. For a large part of the practice yesterday he was doing throw-downs for the likes of Babar Azam whilst his own practice consisted of a few gentle throw-downs from Sharjeel Khan.

    This must be a frustrating time for him.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    I was watching him at Trent Bridge yesterday and I sort of felt a bit sorry for him really.

    The former CT17 winning skipper, the former leader, now just literally one of the reserves in the squad. For a large part of the practice yesterday he was doing throw-downs for the likes of Babar Azam whilst his own practice consisted of a few gentle throw-downs from Sharjeel Khan.

    This must be a frustrating time for him.
    Well he shown his frustration in the 3rd odi

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Rashid Latif speaking on a YouTube channel:

    'Why was Mickey Arthur removed...what was the reason for his sacking? The team had done well under him and it was progressing well. Check the records and you can see but he was removed because of politics,'

    Latif also said that Sarfaraz should not have been sacked.

    'I don't blame Misbah-ul Haq, perhaps he didn't want to be head coach. He was young and inexperienced as a coach so why appoint him? It is the PCB to be blamed for what has happened'

    'Today we have lost to a second string England team badly in the One-Day series which means that our cricket is not good enough to even beat England's bench strength.'

    'Let's just hope they can bounce back because we can't afford anymore setbacks.' PTI Cor SSC SSC SSC
    So no mention of Riz being a better bat and WK

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    As I have said on many occasions Riz needs Safaraz to push him and Safaraz needs to stay around to push Riz. We have seen WK like Kami and Safaraz himself fall away when they didn't have the pressure for their place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    I was watching him at Trent Bridge yesterday and I sort of felt a bit sorry for him really.

    The former CT17 winning skipper, the former leader, now just literally one of the reserves in the squad. For a large part of the practice yesterday he was doing throw-downs for the likes of Babar Azam whilst his own practice consisted of a few gentle throw-downs from Sharjeel Khan.

    This must be a frustrating time for him.
    Itís his own fault for becoming too complacent after winning the champions trophy and not putting enough emphasis on his fitness, which lead to his dismal form with both bat and gloves. Iím sure all the bowlers are happy that he is gone. They were probably sick of getting scolded by him like they were some school kids.

    I donít feel sorry for him at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    I was watching him at Trent Bridge yesterday and I sort of felt a bit sorry for him really.

    The former CT17 winning skipper, the former leader, now just literally one of the reserves in the squad. For a large part of the practice yesterday he was doing throw-downs for the likes of Babar Azam whilst his own practice consisted of a few gentle throw-downs from Sharjeel Khan.

    This must be a frustrating time for him.
    Its definitely quite a fall from grace for him. But, first of all he only has himself to blame given how he stopped caring about his fitness and his form declined. Secondly, this is the expected evolution of a sportsmans career. Eventually he gets older and is no longer the first choice when someone younger and better comes in. Other countries players are able to accept this transition with grace. Ours are desperate to cling on to their spot even when they are long past their sell-by date and so end up becoming an embarrassment. Ian Healy had to move on, as have countless others. Our players will use any trick or sifarish they can including media pressure to keep a spot on the gravy train. If this was a more professional setup he wouldn't even be in the squad and instead a younger understudy would be the backup keeper gaining touring experience (like Rohail, Haris or someone else). Its just that first Misbah and now Wasim don't have the balls to completely drop the guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Let’s be honest.

    There is a strong lobby to keep Sarfaraz out, be it right or wrong. This is why Rizwan’s flaws will be overlooked, excuses will be made to justify his poor performances.

    Rizwan for Tests yes.

    Another keeper please for ODI and T20s
    You want our best T20 batsman dropped? Just started watching cricket recently? Yes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Rashid Latif speaking on a YouTube channel:

    'Why was Mickey Arthur removed...what was the reason for his sacking? The team had done well under him and it was progressing well. Check the records and you can see but he was removed because of politics,'

    Latif also said that Sarfaraz should not have been sacked.

    'I don't blame Misbah-ul Haq, perhaps he didn't want to be head coach. He was young and inexperienced as a coach so why appoint him? It is the PCB to be blamed for what has happened'

    'Today we have lost to a second string England team badly in the One-Day series which means that our cricket is not good enough to even beat England's bench strength.'

    'Let's just hope they can bounce back because we can't afford anymore setbacks.' PTI Cor SSC SSC SSC
    Rashid with his crap as usual.
    Mickey's record was atrocious. Don't think we've been whitewashed this much under any other coach, and the test team had become too weak under him

    Secondly, Mickey wasn't removed, his contract had expired and PCB chose not to renew it which isn't an unusual or immoral thing.

    This guy likes to create controversies out of every single thing. Can't believe a well educated person like him carries himself so poorly.

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    Sarfraz is a good person. He has carried himself well since his ouster, hasn't minced any bad words against the management or the board and hasn't created controversies behind the scenes while being in the squad.
    His demeanor as a captain is an altogether a different thing but he has done very well to not come under the spotlight for wrong reasons. He doesn't look like a trouble maker. Just look at the difference between him and Amir.

    Think a few peak years of his career were missed by selectors preferring Adnan Akmal over him from 2010-2013. During the few matches he played back then, he clearly wasn't backed well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyRabbit View Post
    Rashid with his crap as usual.
    Mickey's record was atrocious. Don't think we've been whitewashed this much under any other coach, and the test team had become too weak under him

    Secondly, Mickey wasn't removed, his contract had expired and PCB chose not to renew it which isn't an unusual or immoral thing.

    This guy likes to create controversies out of every single thing. Can't believe a well educated person like him carries himself so poorly.
    Don't take Latif seriously, just another bitter spur analyst. Apparently PTV Sports has let him go and he has parted ways with Dr Nauman Niaz and he has been talking smack about Dr Niaz to journalists behind the scene. In 2019 he was venting and talking crap about Mickey Arthur and how sacking him as Karachi King's coach and Pakistan's coach will help to revive the fortunes of the team. Just another individual whose opinions are correlated with his vested interests and pockets.

    WK has also revealed that the PCB approached for the CS role and had accepted all his demands only for Latif to back out at the end because he was not man enough to take on the risk and scrutiny of the role. He just doesn't walk the talk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varun View Post
    I've noticed some posters pipe up for him just because they're from the same city as him: Karachi.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raja Ishtiaq View Post
    You want our best T20 batsman dropped? Just started watching cricket recently? Yes?
    He isn't out best batesman babar is but rizwan close enough

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    Full deserved call for Pakistan's T20 WC squad:

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
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    I beg to differ. How can a number 10 ranked batter in the list have preference over number 2, 5, 6 & 7? I have excluded Farhan as he bats like a tail ender.

    I know Sarfaraz is a back up keeper but he should have been in the travelling reserves, not in the 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    I beg to differ. How can a number 10 ranked batter in the list have preference over number 2, 5, 6 & 7? I have excluded Farhan as he bats like a tail ender.
    Only 7 is relevant in the end. Hussain Talat looks decent but he'd be thrown into the deep end if we picked him at this stage.

    Sarfi does have a good record against spin and an ability to hustle runs, something that is needed more in UAE than big hits. His experience isn't irrelevant either.

    In the end while it's not ideal, i don't think it's a terrible selection. If someone like Fakhar or Haider suddenly can't seem to buy a run then Sarfaraz can potentially do a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
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    Not at all. This doesn't justify anything. Can't just go off this list without keeping in mind which role each player performs.

    Sarfraz is a back up keeper and we certainly do not need him in the team. In no scenario he can replace Rizwan. Pointless selection only due to media pressure

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