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5th November 2020, 02:28 #1
Erling Haaland - Borussia Dortmund wonderkid
What a player this guy is. Can see him playing for the world elite in the future, Dortmund is perfect for his development.
13 - Erling Haaland has scored 13 goals in his 11 UEFA Champions League appearances. The 20-year-old also has 25 goals in 28 matches for Borussia Dortmund across all competitions.Last edited by The Viper; 5th November 2020 at 02:54.
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5th November 2020, 03:13 #2
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Looks a wonderful talent.
I wonder if Man City will look at him as Aguero's replacement.
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5th November 2020, 06:10 #3Salzburg sporting director Christoph Freund has claimed their former striker Erling Braut Haaland, now at Borussia Dortmund, “will land” at Liverpool in the future.
Maybe in 18 months he will have him at Anfield. What a talent he is, looks a typical centre forward, big strong and has pace too.
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5th November 2020, 07:44 #4
One of a few upcoming young Norwegian stars. He is son of former Leeds/Man City/Forest player Alf Inge Haaland. Erling is in fact born in Leeds and his biggest childhood dream was to win PL with Leeds
When playing his focus is only on one thing: straight and shortest way to the opponent’s goal.
Really looking forward to his and Martin Oedegaard’s development.
In the last 10 years or so there has been a boom in the artificial grass pitches in Norway and with that you have access to play fotball 365 days in a year. When I was playing we only played outdoor 7 months and rest was indoor where you could not play as freely and often had to go for alternative trainings or spent more time in gym. So this new approach will produce more and better players.
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21st November 2020, 19:36 #5
Erling Braut Haaland wins Golden Boy award for Europe's best under-21 player in top division
Borussia Dortmund forward Erling Braut Haaland has won the 2020 Golden Boy award for the best under-21 player playing in a European country's top division.
The 20-year-old Norway international finished ahead of Barcelona and Spain's Ansu Fati and Bayern Munich's Canadian left-back Alphonso Davies.
Haaland has scored 27 goals in 29 appearances for the Bundesliga side.
Atletico Madrid forward Joao Felix won the award in 2019.
Also in contention for the top prize were Haaland's club team-mate and England forward Jadon Sancho and Manchester United striker Mason Greenwood.
Previous English winners of the award are Wayne Rooney in 2004 and Raheem Sterling in 2014.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/55026825
Arsenal all the way!! (and Pakistan, of course!)
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21st November 2020, 19:38 #6
He is better then Mbappe. Another young player to watch out for is the immensely talented Ansu Fati.
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21st November 2020, 19:48 #7
He is nothing like a typical CF and that is what makes him so special. It is extremely rare for a 6’4 striker to have the speed and acceleration that he has. He is a physical marvel.
I don’t think Liverpool can afford him. He is going to break Neymar’s transfer record.
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21st November 2020, 20:49 #8
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21st November 2020, 20:52 #9
Tbh he is already well past the level when you are winning the Golden Boy award. He is already among top 10 players in the world
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21st November 2020, 21:27 #10
Mbappe is a great player, certainly one of the very best in the world, but Haaland is matching the peak years of Messi and Ronaldo with his rate of scoring goals.
Last season, he scored 44 goals in 40 games for a team that is not even the strongest in its own league.
He scores a goal every game for a weak team like Norway as well.
The rate at which he scores goals is mind-boggling. Neither Mbappe nor Neymar have been able to match his scoring record and they play for a better team.
Fati is an amazing talent but I am not sure if he will have a better career than Haaland.
Haaland is a humanoid. I have never seen a 6’4 towering ST have the speed and acceleration that he has. He is unstoppable.
IMO, he will be the first player to break the €300m barrier in transfer fee. Whoever signs from BVB will have to pay a world record fee.
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22nd November 2020, 00:00 #11
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Bartomeu rejected him and then went on to sign Braithwaite......
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22nd November 2020, 00:01 #12
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22nd November 2020, 02:51 #13
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Four goals for Erling Braut Haaland today for Borussia Dortmund.
Only a matter of time before Spanish and EPL giants start sniffing around.
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22nd November 2020, 04:45 #14
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22nd November 2020, 04:53 #15
"You aren't a failure if you fail, you are a failure if you don't get up to try again" - Imran Khan.
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22nd November 2020, 12:10 #16
I don’t think both will end up at the same club. Mbappe will play in the centre in the long run and I don’t think he would like to play on the wings to accommodate Haaland. It would be amazing if one of them ends up at Barcelona.
However, if Madrid pull off both and manage to play them together successfully, it will be a nightmare for Barcelona who are slowly becoming a sleeping giant like AC Milan.
Barcelona’s only hope would be if the likes of Fati, Pedri, de Jong and Dest develop into the next Messi, Iniesta, Xavi and Alves. They also need to convince Pep to sell Eric Garcia who has all the qualities to be a better CB than Pique.
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22nd November 2020, 14:16 #17
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22nd November 2020, 14:18 #18
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22nd November 2020, 19:29 #19
We seem to be entering a new golden age of footballers in this coming decade, similar to the golden age of players during the 2000s.
Haaland, Mbappe, Alexander-Arnold, Camavinga, Fati, Sancho, Davies, Felix, Tonali, Havertz; just to name a few.
The 2020s are going to be a fantastic decade for football.
Arsenal all the way!! (and Pakistan, of course!)
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22nd November 2020, 19:51 #20
Erling Braut Haaland scored four second-half goals as Borussia Dortmund recovered from a goal down to thrash Hertha Berlin and reduce the gap to Bundesliga leaders Bayern Munich.
Norway international Haaland, 20, scored a 15-minute hat-trick as Dortmund moved second, one point behind Bayern who drew 1-1 with Werder Bremen.
The in-form Haaland has hit 10 goals in his past six games in all competitions for Dortmund and has scored 21 times in 17 matches for club and country this season.
He won the 2020 Golden Boy award for the best under-21 player playing in a European country's top division earlier on Saturday, finishing ahead of Barcelona and Spain's Ansu Fati and Bayern Munich's Canadian left-back Alphonso Davies.
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22nd November 2020, 20:34 #21
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22nd November 2020, 21:05 #22
Haaland, Ansu-Fati, Mbappe, Greenwood, Felix are the future
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24th November 2020, 00:20 #23
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24th November 2020, 02:12 #24
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24th November 2020, 02:31 #25
English football is not as it used to be in the 90s and early 20s. Most of the teams now have shortish foreign players and even the defenders are no more like Tony Adams, Pallister, Sol Cambell, Rio Ferdinand, Carragher, Terry to mention some. A player like Bruno Fernandes would never have done well in those times but now he is one of the best in PL to serve his team mates.
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24th November 2020, 02:32 #26
Heartning to see such praise for a Norwegian player here. We are not used to it
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24th November 2020, 02:37 #27
Obviously not all strikers are typical CF in the PL. The game has evolved along with the style of play but this doesnt mean the definition of a typical CF is wrong. The English league consists of more than the PL.
However PL still has big strong defenders and someone like Haaland would be a good signing in such a league. He will be more effective in the air than SA. But dont take my word for it.
Here is a newcomer to the PL
Chelsea new boy Timo Werner hilariously admitted that he has never played against such "massive defenders" after his side beat Brighton 3-1.
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24th November 2020, 07:49 #28
You are living in England but your football knowledge is zero which is reflected by your outdated, generic comments on Premier League football. Comments that have been disproved time and time again.
English football is still more physical than other leagues but over the last two decades, it has evolved into a more technical league where diminutive forwards with technical skills are thriving.
That is why nearly every technically gifted player - be it a ST, CAM, Winger has excelled in England in recent years regardless of their physical characteristics.
Timo Werner finds the defenders bigger in England but it hasn’t stopped him from doing well in the Premier League right from the word go.
Physicality is a plus of course but you do not have to a be a physical beast to excellent in England.
More than physicality, you need technical ability, talent and skills. If you have them in abundance you will excel and if you don’t, you don’t stand a chance.
Akinfenwa can manhandle any defender in the world when it comes to physicality but he never got picked by a Premier League club.
Couple of months back, the 5’8 and 150 lb Jack Grealish left the 6’4 and 200 lb van Dijk on his backside as his team put 7 past him.
Haaland has all the technical and physical characteristics to dominate English football. There are no holes and weaknesses in his game and profile.
Besides, the point of discussion is not how Haaland will do in England. The point of discussion is your incorrect assessment that Haaland is a “typical CF”.
I corrected you by reminding you that he is nothing like a typical CF because it is not usual for a 6’4 and 190 lb CF to have the explosive acceleration and speed that he has, and that is what makes him so dangerous.
He is one of the fastest players in the world and that is crazy for a player with his physical characteristics.
If you think he is a typical CF, can you please provide a list of 6’4 and 190 lb+ strikers in Premier League or European football who can run as fast as he does?
In fact, you cannot come up with a list even if you scan the history of football, which is why your assessment that he is a typical CF is nonsense.
As far as the comparison with Mbappe is concerned, he is a better goal scorer and physically more gifted. Unfortunately, he plays for Norway and thus will never have the chance to shine at World Cups.
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25th November 2020, 04:06 #29
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25th November 2020, 05:38 #30
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25th November 2020, 06:12 #31
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25th November 2020, 06:22 #32
It has to be for attention.lol I've never heard anyone suggest Haaland is beter than KM.
Haaland is a great talent no doubt but is way off being a finished product. I watched the full match v Bayern, he had a lot of energy and strength but some of his decisions and shooting was average.
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25th November 2020, 10:22 #33
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25th November 2020, 10:32 #34
Haaland’s physical characteristics make him an extraordinary talent. As I asked KKWC and he didn’t have an answer, there are no 6’4, 190 lb strikers today or even in the past who had the speed and acceleration that Haaland has. It is not normal at all.
Mbappe is a phenomenal player, one of the very best in the world. He is basically the new Thierry Henry.
However, Haaland is scoring goals at the rate at which Messi and Ronaldo did in their prime years, and he is doing it in teams that are inferior to the ones Mbappe plays for.
If you put them both in the same team, Haaland will outscore Mbappe.
Mbappe is not even the best player at PSG. It is Neymar. Mbappe is a great goal scorer but Neymar is the better all-round footballer. Mbappe lacks his creative talent and playmaking skills.
So does Haaland, both are essentially pure ST, and thus they will be compared with their output in terms of goals scored.
Haaland extraordinary physical characteristics give him an edge over every young ST of his generation. He is a nightmare for defenders because of his combination of size and speed.
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25th November 2020, 10:35 #35
Yes so?
I have watched Mbappe struggle to beat weak teams in the UCL without Neymar on the pitch. The only reason PSG qualified for the final last year was because Neymar was not injured this time.
And I saw Haaland vs Bayern as well, and he was miles better than the flop show Mbappe produced against the same side in the UCL final.
The sitter that he missed would have been buried by Haaland.
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25th November 2020, 16:29 #36
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Fast tall players?
Zlatan (ajax days)-Mamoon you are probably on familiar with him in later days.
Tore Andre Flo had a burst/was quick for a tall guy
John Carew
There are 3, feel free to google the last 2!
Similar to when you did for Ronny Rosenthal! It is ok, you've obviously only followed footy for a few years
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25th November 2020, 16:38 #37
You might be watching football longer then I have but unfortunately it did not help you understand the game.
You have just exposed yourself if you think a young Zlatan was as fast as Haaland is today. At no point in his career was Zlatan’s speed even comparable to Haaland.
John Carew and Tore Andre Flo
The fact that you are comparing average strikers like John Carew and Flo to Haaland sums up everything.
The only similarity between him and Haaland is that they are both Norwegian and have similar height, but Haaland is streets ahead in terms of goal scoring ability and pace.
Let me write it again - you cannot come up with any examples of 6’4, 190lb+ strikers who has the pace of Haaland. That is what makes him much such an incredible talent.
It is not national for a striker of his height and body structure to be almost as rapid as someone like Mbappe, and that is why he is a nightmare for defenders and find the net every game.
It is almost impossible for defenders to contain him because you cannot outpace him or bully him physically.
And yeah I remember the Rosenthal thread where you downplayed the value of Benayoun to Liverpool in 2008-09 and I proved you wrong with facts.Last edited by Mamoon; 25th November 2020 at 16:40.
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25th November 2020, 16:43 #38
@WAQAR’s inswinging yorker
There is a big difference between tall strikers who are quick for their height and Haaland who is lighting fast irrespective of his height.
Young Zlatan was quick for his height but he was never among the fastest players in the world.
Haaland actually is one of the fastest players in the world today and he would be noted for his pace even if he was only 5’8.
You cannot come up with any examples of 6’4+ strikers that were as fast as Haaland because they are none. He is a unique specimen.Last edited by The Viper; 25th November 2020 at 18:39.
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25th November 2020, 20:28 #39
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You make me laugh!!
Acting like you know a great deal about footy!
When you played the zionist Liverpool argument and used Yossi as opposed to Ronny Rosenthal-then to try and use the weak point that you kept it more current for audience- was literally LOL. You're obviously new to football and that is fair enough.
You asked about a combination of pace and height- LOL comparing haaland.
Tore Flo was renowned as being quick for his height- Carew was similar.
At least with your cricket posts,I might read and respect but footy no chance!
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25th November 2020, 21:19 #40
Carew would hardly qualify as a striker for whom pace / speed was a crucial part of the game. It wasn’t because he didn’t have a whole lot of it. Also Carew while a good striker and had good impact at Villa, was not at any point of his career at an elite level that Haaland has already reached.
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25th November 2020, 21:50 #41
My example of Benayoun was in the context of KKWC. If you would have followed my conversation with him you would have understood.
KKWC claimed that he has boycotted Israel and does not recognize them as a state. However, he continues to support and spend money on the club that bought Benayoun.
KKWC is not old enough to have spent money on Rosenthal. That is why I used the example of Benayoun to expose KKWC’s hypocrisy and double standards.
You asked about a combination of pace and height- LOL comparing haaland.
Tore Flo was renowned as being quick for his height- Carew was similar.
At least with your cricket posts,I might read and respect but footy no chance!
Please read my posts in this thread again. I think I should post again in bold so that you can finally understand.
I am not talking about strikers who were quick for their height. I can list dozens such strikers.
I asked for a list of 6’4, 190 lb+ strikers who were as fast as Haaland.
Haaland is not fast for his height and built; he is actually one of the fastest players in the world irrespective of his height.
He is almost as fast as Mbappe.
Haaland is most probably the fastest 6’4+ striker in history, and that is what makes him so lethal and a nightmare for defenders. He is a total animal.
I hope it is finally clear.
I have been watching football for as long as I have watched cricket. It is my favorite sport along with cricket and golf.
And with all due and undue respect, not only do you have no clue about football, you cannot comprehend basic English as well.
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25th November 2020, 21:52 #42
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26th November 2020, 00:55 #43
This is your definition to the exact weight and height lol.
Peter Crouch was around this tall , not many other fowards in football history lol
190lbs is not much of a weight either.
You have been watching cartoons of Peter Crouch on a diet?
Another gem. KM is nothing like TH as a footballer apart from being French lol
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26th November 2020, 01:58 #44
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26th November 2020, 02:20 #45
Crouch was around 6’8. If you had any clue about football you would have been able to tell the height difference between the two.
Moreover, again if you had any clue about football, you would know that it is very, very difficult for someone to be 6’4 and around 190 lbs and have the capacity to be among the fastest players in the world.
6’4 isn’t unusually tall for a ST. In every generation, you have several in this range. Even today, there are a dozen strikers in that height range and no one is remotely as quick as Haaland. He is the most impressive physical specimen since C. Ronaldo.
Another gem. KM is nothing like TH as a footballer apart from being French lol
In fact, plenty of former French players as well as Fabregas and Arsene Wenger have made this comparison as well. A person has to be blind as a bad to not see it.
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26th November 2020, 02:24 #46
Zlatan was quick for his height but at no point in his career was he among the fastest players in the world.
This is what makes Haaland so unique. It is not normal for 6’4+ strikers to be so rapid. He is amongst the fastest players in the world irrespective of his height.
This is the major reason why defenders are struggling to cope with him both in Bundesliga and Europe. He is scoring goals at the rate of peak Messi and Ronaldo without playing for the best teams in the world.
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26th November 2020, 02:27 #47
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26th November 2020, 10:55 #48
Crouch’s height is officially listed as 6’7. Your approximation is incorrect because it is not possible to to gauge the exact height with your eyes.
He is clearly much taller than Haaland and the guy couldn’t outrun Haaland in a thousand years, so I don’t even know why you are fixated on him.
Furthermore, your distinction of “touch player” and “power player” actually exposes your shallow knowledge of football. The lack of depth and substance in your answer is clear.
I don’t have to “make up stories”. Footballers and managers with billion times more talent and knowledge than you have compared Mbappe to Henry.
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“I don’t like to compare players from different generations but Henry and Mbappe have a similar profile” - France coach Deschamps
“If I squint, then I can maybe think I am watching my old Arsenal team-mate and friend Thierry Henry when Kylian Mbappe plays” - Fabregas
“It's true he has similar qualities. He could be another Thierry Henry.” - Arsene Wenger
“Mbappe is the new Thierry Henry” - French football journalist Julien Laurens
“I had the opportunity to play with great strikers. And I think that Mbappe is more like Thierry Henry” - Djorkaeff, former squad player for France during the 1998 World Cup.
“Mbappe is nothing like Henry lolololol” - KKWC
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28th November 2020, 16:09 #49
Borussia Dortmund's sporting director Michael Zorc says he can see Norway striker Erling Braut Haaland at the club "for a long time". The 20-year-old is contracted to the Bundesliga side until 2024, but could leave for 75m euros (£67m) in 2022 because of a release clause. (Bild Sport - in German)
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24th December 2020, 19:44 #50
Chelsea have joined the race for Borussia Dortmund and Norway striker Erling Braut Haaland, 20, but Manchester City consider themselves as favourites to sign the Norwegian striker. (90 min)
Arsenal all the way!! (and Pakistan, of course!)