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    "We need to give Babar Azam time to grow into the role of Test skipper" : Mohammad Wasim

    Regarded as one of the most promising talents of his time, Mohammad Wasim rose to fame after becoming only the fourth Pakistan player to score a hundred on his Test debut. Wasim made his international debut in 1996 and in 43 appearances for Pakistan, scored 1326 runs, playing his last international game in 2000.

    In an exclusive interview with PakPassion.net, Wasim spoke about his experience of coaching the Northern side in Pakistan domestic cricket, his views on changes in the domestic system, how Azhar Ali will cope with the disappointment of being removed as Pakistan Test captain, Babar Azam's promotion to Test captain, the talent of Haider Ali, Zeeshan Malik and Rohail Nazir and Pakistan's chances during the tour of New Zealand.


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    PakPassion.net: How does coaching compare with commentary and being a player?

    Mohammad Wasim:
    Coaching represents a different challenge to that of being a player or being a commentator. This is something I always wanted to do and even during my playing career, I had coaching in my mind as a role I wanted to enjoy and do after my retirement. Itís been five years since I started professional coaching and itís not been easy by any means, because there is a different kind of pressure.

    As a player, you feel that the game is in your hands but as a coach sometimes you get frustrated as you are no longer in control about what happens on the field. For a coach who has been an ex-player, the biggest challenge if he wishes to succeed in that role is to forget their playing days. This is because you look at things differently as a coach as opposed to a player. So, you need to identify which things are under your control as a coach and how to empower the players and to get the best out of the players. Despite the tough challenges this role poses for me, I have to say that I am really enjoying the role.


    PakPassion.net: What qualities does one need to succeed as a coach?

    Mohammad Wasim:
    As a coach you have to forget what you did well and not so well and what you achieved as a player. Comparing and still thinking about your own playing days with your role now as a coach will never work. When managing players, you have to remember you are expected to be a friend, father-figure, older brother and confidante. The most important thing is that you have to remember that every player is different, the way every player thinks is different and you cannot manage and treat every player the same way. To get the best out of some you have to put your arm around the shoulder, for others they just need a quiet word every now and then and for some they need to be pushed and reminded of their abilities on a regular basis.

    As in any role in cricket, coaching is a continuous learning process, you are looking to improve yourself all the time and looking to get the best out of the people you are working with.


    PakPassion.net: How high do you rate the standard of domestic cricket since the changes made by the current PCB administration came into effect?

    Mohammad Wasim:
    The quality of cricket at the domestic level in Pakistan has always been a subject of intense debate. Over the years, weíve had different systems in place but last yearís changes have been massive in the sense that the number of teams have been cut down and there is a clear impetus towards quality, rather than quantity. The quality of cricket has definitely gone up and the competition is tougher. You can judge that by the fact that bowlers struggled a lot last year. But this year, the bowlers have fared better and shown improvement as they have learnt from their experiences and understand the pitches better. Overall, the standard of cricket has definitely gone up as we saw in the National T20 Cup, where the standard was similar to many of the well-known T20 leagues around the world.

    When we speak about First-class cricket, we can see that the senior players are doing well and a very good bunch of youngsters are also coming through. What the new system is now offering is a good career path to players where if they perform at the second XI level, they can move to the first XI. Hopefully next year, once the Coronavirus Pandemic is under control, we will have other domestic competitions played as well, such as those involving city and club sides and that will show the real benefits of changes to the domestic system.


    PakPassion.net: What further changes would you like to see in Pakistanís domestic system?

    Mohammad Wasim:
    We, the selectors and coaches, did propose to PCB some changes to the domestic system but those could not be acted upon due to limitations imposed by the COVID-19 situation. Due to that, all matches were being held in one city and under bio-secure bubble restrictions. Hopefully, when the health and safety situation improves next year, we will see some more improvements. Regardless, the quality of cricket has seen a massive improvement after the initial set of changes were put in place. Not only are the players getting better at facing the challenge of stiff competition, the overall logistical aspect and 5-star facilities off the field are helping them perform even better.

    On the whole we are moving in the right direction but then we must understand that whenever a new system is put in place, you start thinking about what other improvements you can make. So, we are in the middle of defining those types of changes and hopefully we will see those changes in place next year. But we need to be patient as all these changes will take some time to be bedded down and take effect for the benefit of Pakistan cricket.


    PakPassion.net: Will Azhar Ali bounce back from losing his position as Test captain?

    Mohammad Wasim:
    There is no doubt that Azhar is a strong character. He has already experienced a similar situation when he was removed from ODI captaincy but after that he performed well in Test cricket. I have known Azhar for a long time, and given his character and the fact that he is a strong individual, I know he will be disappointed in the way things have gone but he will bounce back from this setback. He has done that in Test cricket in the past where whenever he struggled for runs, he came back strongly with big hundreds and contributed positively to the team. I am sure this disappointment will be on his mind, and it may take some time for him to recover, but I can it wonít affect his batting or on the field decisions.


    PakPassion.net: What do you think of Babar Azamís appointment as Test captain?

    Mohammad Wasim:
    There is no doubt Babar has proved himself as a batsman in all formats, but when it comes to captaincy in Tests, this will be a different challenge. We have seen some glimpses of his ability as captain in white-ball cricket, but the red-ball version will present a different set of questions for him, especially on a tough tour of New Zealand. However, I am sure the seniors like Azhar Ali will be around to help him find his feet in Tests. With Babarís appointment, PCBís vision of having one captain for all formats is much clear and hopefully this will bear fruit soon.


    PakPassion.net: Is there a danger that the responsibility of being Test captain could become a burden on Babarís shoulders?

    Mohammad Wasim:
    Captaining the Test side will be tough for him, but Iím hoping that he will deliver. It will be important that he continues to perform well as a batsman as others in his team will take inspiration from his good performances and only after one or two series will we get a clearer idea of his leadership skills. He is young but very talented and we need to give him time to grow into this job. What will be interesting will be to see how quickly he learns the art of captaincy in Tests. He has had experience of leading the side in white-ball cricket, but red-ball cricket requires a different set of skills such as patience and a planning style that Babar will need to get used to. However, I am sure with the help of seniors and Misbah-ul-Haq by his side, things will work out for him on the tour of New Zealand and we will see a better and more confident version of Babar emerge.


    PakPassion.net: How highly do you rate Haider Ali and what does he need to improve on?

    Mohammad Wasim:
    Haider performed brilliantly for Northern last year which was his debut season in First-class cricket, scoring 645 runs in just 7 matches. He could well have ended up as the top-scoring batsman had he played in all the games which he could not as he was an emerging player. I have always rated him as an excellent player in red-ball cricket because he is an attacking batsman who can play with a good strike rate and loves to dominate bowlers. He is good against pace and equally good against spin bowling and most importantly, he knows his game which is amazing for someone who is so young and this shows that he has a very mature head on his shoulders.

    As for white-ball cricket, he has just started in this format and we need to see how he does as a lot of young players do well in this format at the start Ė and I can even mention my name in that regard. I am hoping that he will continue to perform and improve. We have only seen him for Pakistan in white-ball cricket, but the fact is that you cannot be that consistent in something like T20 cricket due to the nature of the game. To me, if you as a batsman can win two out of five or six games in T20, then that is a satisfactory outcome. Based on what I have seen of Haider, I still rate him as a better red-ball player than a white-ball one.


    PakPassion.net: Why is Asif Ali struggling of late?

    Mohammad Wasim:
    Asifís game has always been about power-hitting and in that regard, he is the best option in Pakistan. In that category you also have the likes of Khushdil Shah, but for me, Asif is one of the best power hitters in Pakistan. Itís a pity that he hasnít been that consistent because I know him and have seen him play well in domestic cricket and he even started off well in international cricket as well. Having said that, I do feel that he needs to improve on a few things and that is something I am working with him on at the moment as he plays red-ball cricket for us.

    He has all the shots but at the end of the day, it comes down to shot selection. For a batsman, itís always nice to have many strokes but that can also be the reason for your downfall. I also feel that he has been slightly unlucky and not been consistent enough even though he was given a few chances at the international level as well. Even in this yearís National T20 Cup, he was a little off colour but then things have been tough for all players and coaches due to the prevailing circumstances brought on by COVID-19. Whilst the players involved in the national side had a good chance to play games whilst in England, the domestic players did not have that luxury during the lockdown phase earlier this year. You could clearly see in this yearís National T20 Cup that players who had played with the Pakistan side were in better shape physically and mentally as opposed to those domestic players who pretty much came into the tournament from home, after not having played cricket for a long time. So, Asif Ali was also affected by this problem and he struggled but I am hoping that he will bounce back soon.


    PakPassion.net: How highly do you rate Rohail Nazir and are you surprised that he hasnít yet played for Pakistan?

    Mohammad Wasim:
    I donít think he is that far away from making his international debut. He is probably number 3 in terms of wicketkeeper-batsman in the country. He is also one of those who performed well last year in red-ball cricket and also captained the Pakistan Under-19 side, and also lead Northern against the MCC. He is a strong character who understands his game well and also has those leadership traits that are needed for a captain. There is a long way to go for him, but he is learning fast. And whilst itís more fashionable to talk about how good a wicket-keeper like Rohail is with the bat, I would break rank and say that his Ďkeeping is what makes him brilliant. Of course, he can bat too and especially in white-ball cricket where he proved himself last year when I gave him chances in the top order where he got a few fifties. And this is how I try and improve playerís chances of playing for the country by playing them in the right position. For example, if Pakistan need a wicket-keeping batsman who goes in at 7 or 8 and finishes the game then sending Rohail as an opener will not prepare him for his role in the senior side. Rohail has the ability to not just bat well but he is a clean striker of the ball who can hit sixes. He does need to work on his batting especially in red-ball cricket where the ball is doing a bit, but as far white-ball cricket is concerned, his batting is right up there with the top players in Pakistan.


    PakPassion.net: Can Shadab Khan be an option for Pakistan in all three formats?

    Mohammad Wasim:
    Shadab has already proven himself in One-Day and T20 cricket. But the real challenge for him is in red-ball cricket which he can easily do because he has what we lack in Pakistan at the moment. We donít see too many spinners in the game nowadays although the likes of Zahid Mahmood, Nauman Ali and Kashif Bhatti have impressed in recent times. But overall, the quality of finger spinners and leg-spinners in domestic cricket is something we have lacked in the last few years. Especially when we talk about leg-spinners there is a huge question mark, which is best exemplified by the form of Yasir Shah in the past few months. This is where Shadab Khanís presence is important as he is being prepared as a backup to Yasir Shah in red-ball cricket.

    As a batsman, you can use him at any suitable position. He can bat higher up the order or come lower down as a finisher and is as versatile as it gets. He has three fifties in Tests which speaks volumes about his batting abilities in red-ball cricket, but I feel he still has some way to go before we call him a finished product. He hasnít played too many red-ball games for us at Northern and what he needs to do now is to bowl long spells because whilst he has the variations, he does need to develop patience. This is important in the longer form of the game because unlike in white-ball cricket where the batsman is always after you and is likely to make a mistake, a different mindset is needed to bowl in red-ball cricket. Here, the batsman is biding his time and waiting for a bad ball. So, as a spinner you are expected to show patience and bowl good overs consistently which can be a challenge, but I do feel Shadab can do that. He has the talent and his fitness is good and all he needs to do, as and when he is given a chance, is to show that he is a good wicket-taking option in all forms of the game.


    PakPassion.net: Zeeshan Malik is a player who you have given opportunities to. How far do you think can he go in his career?

    Mohammad Wasim:
    I had been following Zeeshanís progress during the time I was commentating but was surprised to see that he was nowhere to be seen when I first joined the PCB recently. He had been playing in domestic cricket but did not get consistent chances in First-class cricket which he deserved. I gave him an opportunity to shine in our First XI and he never looked back and grabbed that opportunity with both hands.

    To me he is one of those batsmen who look to take the attack to the bowlers in red-ball cricket. He is very good on his backfoot and this is one important quality that coaches are always looking for in batsmen. Quite a few batsmen are very comfortable on the front foot and get many runs on pitches such as in the UAE but they struggle the moment they are in England, Australia or South Africa where there are bouncier wickets. This is why I have always believed that as a top-order batsman you need to be very good on the back foot. Zeeshan has all those qualities and not only is he good in the longer format of the game, he has also showed some real intent in T20s as well. He has all the strokes and can cut and pull with ease. I am really looking forward to seeing him perform for the Shaheens on the tour of New Zealand and I am sure he is the kind of batsman that Pakistan needs in all formats of the game where he can play with a very good strike rate.


    PakPassion.net: Having previously played in New Zealand yourself, how do you expect Pakistan to perform out there?

    Mohammad Wasim:
    Tours of New Zealand have never been easy for Pakistan. Conditions are different and the pitches will be helpful for the fast-bowlers, which probably will be the home teamís game plan against Pakistan. So, I expect plenty of grass left on the pitch, especially in Test matches. In terms of bowling, the likes of Mohammad Abbas, Shaheen Shah Afridi will pose a threat against New Zealand so making the pitches too fast-bowler friendly could go against the home-side. The real challenge will be for our batsmen and the seniors in the side such as Azhar Ali, Babar Azam, Abid Ali and Shan Masoodís techniques will be tested. The new ball and short-pitched bowling will keep these batsmen on their toes and from a cricket loverís point of view, it will be an interesting series to watch. This Pakistan side has the capability to beat any side in the world but for that they will need to master the conditions and play some attacking cricket.


    PakPassion.net: Will we see you coaching Pakistan one day?

    Mohammad Wasim:
    Itís in my nature that whatever I do, I always want to improve and move up to the next level. Itís like when you are a player who is playing for his city or club, you always want to move up to a higher level of cricket. So, I am not saying that I should be Pakistan coach, but my aim is to progress from my current role, so letís see where I end up in the future. I definitely donít like being stuck in one position for too long and want to improve my skills, and also want career progression.


    PakPassion.net: Are there any hidden gems at Northern who you feel have a bright future?

    Mohammad Wasim:
    There are plenty of very talented and skilled youngsters all over Pakistan in U-19 cricket who have great futures ahead of them. When we speak about Northern, there are some players in the U-19 side whom I will move up to the second XI and then to the first XI if they continue doing well. I would like to mention off-spinner Mubasir Khan who has been doing really well for our U-19s side and there is fast-bowler Munir Riaz who is already with us in our first XI and is someone who bowled really well for Northern against MCC where he took the prize wicket of Kumar Sangakkara. Of course, we have all heard of Nasir Nawaz who is young and a very strong lad, and the way he bats is technically very correct and the best part of it is that he can bowl fast too. Having a fast-bowling all-rounder like Nasir in the side is important and this is something we are lacking in Pakistan cricket, with not many players fitting that role. We have Faheem Ashraf, Aamer Yamin, Amad Butt and it would be nice to add another few more names to that list. Nasir Nawaz can definitely be one to watch when it comes to all-rounders and has a bright future.


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    Great interview from Waseem. I am surprised Haider Ali is a better red ball batsmen than white. I would like to see him in the test side soon and get rid of Azhar and Asad

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    Great interview good to see the names of mubashir khan and munir riaz being mentioned

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    Fantastic interview from the most progressive and forward thinking coach in Pakistan.
    Last edited by Saj; 26th November 2020 at 03:18.

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    I hope Wasim will take over from Misbah in near future. Enjoyed this interview , good questions and Wasim's comments were interesting.

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    Thanks team for bringing in another anticipated interview and Mohammad Wasim definitely lived upto the expectations with his solid insights.

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    Great interview. Nice to see a Pakistani coach believing in youth and looking long term.

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    Big fan of your coaching style Wasim bhai, if you are reading this. Keep working hard and make Pakistan proud.

    A request to promote Mubasir Khan from U-19 cricket to second XI very soon!

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    Very good Interview, loved reading it. Wasim obviously has seen more of Haidar than anyone in PCT so his opinion that Haidar is a better Red ball cricketer than White Ball one is extremely interesting. Wasim is a big fan of batting Agressivly in 4-day cricket as is obvious from the Northerns Batting lineup. And that is the kind of Attitude the Pakistan National team needs to embrace. Batting timidly will do us no favours as Generally Pakistani batsmen don't have the temperament to bat long and bat big. Instead of playing an attacking brand of Cricket will ensure that we almost always give ourselves a chance.

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    Mo wasim coaching philosophy is spot on and mirrors his coaching style keep the good work up

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    Mohammad Wasim is a fine individual who has done a lot of good work at Northern. It is because of him that we have seen so many young players getting through the ranks in the last year or so.

    He is the best coach in Pakistan, but I believe he can contribute a lot more at Northern considering the fact that most of our talented lads hail from Northern. He can do the coaching there and improve some very talented lads.

    The Pakistan job is a more strategic one where you won't have the time to work with someone on his short ball issues or batting temperament. At that level planning and improving mental toughness takes more time considering the short time you have. There is a reason Misbah hired YK and some other specialists.

    In this new set up Wasim is already a co-selector and has the best talents of Punjab under his care. Hope he understands that he is doing wonders already for the country. Haider Ali, Rohail Nazir, Zeeshan Malik are gifts from Wasim. Even Hammad Azam has started looking better under his care.

    Keep it up M Wasim!


    "You aren't a failure if you fail, you are a failure if you don't get up to try again" - Imran Khan.

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    He's being thoroughly tested at Northern with the likes of Asif Ali who have been struggling for form.

    If he get the likes of Asif back on track then he's a coach who deserves to be respected.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    He's being thoroughly tested at Northern with the likes of Asif Ali who have been struggling for form.

    If he get the likes of Asif back on track then he's a coach who deserves to be respected.
    Asif Ali has never been a consistent player. His domestic stats are awful. He is just a hitter who is useful for the ODI and T-20 formats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    He's being thoroughly tested at Northern with the likes of Asif Ali who have been struggling for form.

    If he get the likes of Asif back on track then he's a coach who deserves to be respected.
    I donít think Asif Ali is a good standard to uphold to measure Wasimís impact. Heís already done much more and showed his abilities with other folks, whether Asif improves or not will also depend on his own mental state. It has been a tough last two years for him both on the pitch and on a personal level. Wasim does not have a silver bullet, but even in the National T20 cup we could see Asif doing a bit better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    I don’t think Asif Ali is a good standard to uphold to measure Wasim’s impact. He’s already done much more and showed his abilities with other folks, whether Asif improves or not will also depend on his own mental state. It has been a tough last two years for him both on the pitch and on a personal level. Wasim does not have a silver bullet, but even in the National T20 cup we could see Asif doing a bit better.
    I think it's an excellent standard to gauge Wasim's credentials.

    Player with ability, going through a rough patch, struggling for form and confidence.

    Let's see what you can do coach.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    I think it's an excellent standard to gauge Wasim's credentials.

    Player with ability, going through a rough patch, struggling for form and confidence.

    Let's see what you can do coach.
    Asif Ali should have worked on a secondary skill i.e. being a handy bowler. Afridi made up for his inconsistency with the bat by being able to pitch in with the ball frequently and in the field.

    Asif Ali is an inconsistent batsmen who only knows one way to play i.e. hit out, but he can't make up for it in the field or with the ball therefore whenever he fails, it gets noticed very badly.

    Not sure if there are any examples world wide where such players have added other dimensions to their game to make a stronger claim for selection

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Asif Ali should have worked on a secondary skill i.e. being a handy bowler. Afridi made up for his inconsistency with the bat by being able to pitch in with the ball frequently and in the field.

    Asif Ali is an inconsistent batsmen who only knows one way to play i.e. hit out, but he can't make up for it in the field or with the ball therefore whenever he fails, it gets noticed very badly.

    Not sure if there are any examples world wide where such players have added other dimensions to their game to make a stronger claim for selection
    Well, as I wrote earlier, these type of players are the ones that test a coach's skills and temperament and can show what they are made of.



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    Wow, he said he would and he did! Just saw the Northern 2nd XI scorecard vs Baluchistan (started 5th Dec), and you can see that Waseem has included Abdul Faseeh, Mubasir Khan AND Mehran Mumtaz from the under 19s in the second XI team. Faseeh actually made 80 odd on the first day and Mubasir Khan made 38. Will be interesting to see how Mubasir and Mehran go bowling wise today.

    It should be obvious, but it's really refreshing to see a coach recognise talent, and then have the courage to play them. Meanwhile not the case with any of the other teams. Bangalzai is back playing 2nd XI cricket for Baluchistan and Arish Ali was also bowling for Sindh (took 1 wicket in 14 overs).

    However, no sign of Hurraira, Adeel Mao, Saim Ayub or Faisal Akram for the other teams. I wonder what the other coaches have to loose by playing these very talented young lads?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfPakBreakfast View Post
    Wow, he said he would and he did! Just saw the Northern 2nd XI scorecard vs Baluchistan (started 5th Dec), and you can see that Waseem has included Abdul Faseeh, Mubasir Khan AND Mehran Mumtaz from the under 19s in the second XI team. Faseeh actually made 80 odd on the first day and Mubasir Khan made 38. Will be interesting to see how Mubasir and Mehran go bowling wise today.

    It should be obvious, but it's really refreshing to see a coach recognise talent, and then have the courage to play them. Meanwhile not the case with any of the other teams. Bangalzai is back playing 2nd XI cricket for Baluchistan and Arish Ali was also bowling for Sindh (took 1 wicket in 14 overs).

    However, no sign of Hurraira, Adeel Mao, Saim Ayub or Faisal Akram for the other teams. I wonder what the other coaches have to loose by playing these very talented young lads?!
    Thatís amazing! Faseeh was single handedly the best batsman in the U19 one day series, possibly the most promising upcoming prospect. And Mubasir Khan has a lot of potential as an amazing all rounder.

    Northern were runner ups. Meanwhile the champions, Sindh, have yet to include the fantastic Saim Ayub, Aaliyan Mehmood, Adeel Meo, or Aarish Ali Khan from last year. Thatís the fundamental difference in philosophy at Northern and itís so refreshing to watch.

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    To be fair, Aarish is playing the current 2nd XI match, but yeah I take your wider point


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    A fine win for Northern's 2nd XI:

    Northern vs Balochistan, NBP Sports Complex, Karachi:

    Resuming their innings on 87 for four, Northern were dismissed for 145 in 39.5 overs. Kashif Iqbal top-scored with 31 off 34 balls. For Balochistan, Gohar Faiz picked four for 60, while Hayatullah and Zainullah grabbed three wickets apiece.

    Chasing 296 to win, Balochistan managed to score 113 for nine in 39 overs as last batsman Akhtar Shah was absent hurt. Abdul Wahid Bangalzai top-scored with a 56-ball 35, which included five boundaries.

    For Northern, left-arm spinner Farhan Shafiq picked seven for 17 in 11 overs. He ended up with match figures of nine for 55.

    Scores in brief:

    Northern vs Balochistan NBP Sports Complex, Karachi:

    Northern 361-7, 83 overs (Jamal Anwar 93 not out, Abdul Faseeh 83, Hasan Raza 55; Hayatullah 4-124, Zainullah 2-114) and 145 all out, 39.5 overs (Kashif Iqbal 31, Aamer Jamal 30, Mubasir Khan 21; Gohar Faiz 4-60, Hayatullah 3-33, Zainullah 3-49)

    Balochistan 211-9, 70.3 overs (Abdul Wahid Bangalzai 41, Ali Rafiq 35, Israr Ahmed 34, Taimur Ali 34, Shahbaz Khan 31; Mehran Mumtaz 2-21, Farhan Shafiq 2-38, Mubasir Khan 2-42, Aamer Jamal 2-63) and 113-9, 39 overs (Abdul Wahid Bangalzai 35, Hayatullah 21; Farhan Shafiq 7-17, Salman Irshad 2-12)

    Result: Northern won by 182 runs



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    I think it's an excellent standard to gauge Wasim's credentials.

    Player with ability, going through a rough patch, struggling for form and confidence.

    Let's see what you can do coach.
    So Asif Ali is in decent form now. Thoughts @Saj bhai?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    So Asif Ali is in decent form now. Thoughts @Saj bhai?
    As I said, working with and getting Asif Ali on a consistent and good run of form is a good gauge of Mohammad Wasim's capabilities as a coach.

    Good signs.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    As I said, working with and getting Asif Ali on a consistent and good run of form is a good gauge of Mohammad Wasim's capabilities as a coach.

    Good signs.
    Absolutely. Completely turned the game around.

    Northern lost its first 5 wickets for 58 runs between them, then Asif Ali came in and got them to 243, and Northern even ended up with a 9 runs first innings lead after they bundled CP out for 234 today.

    Positive cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    Absolutely. Completely turned the game around.

    Northern lost its first 5 wickets for 58 runs between them, then Asif Ali came in and got them to 243, and Northern even ended up with a 9 runs first innings lead after they bundled CP out for 234 today.

    Positive cricket.
    That innings was just superb. The way he came at the crease and went after the bowling attack and played positive/aggressive cricket was just great to watch. However if you look at the highlights of his innings on YouTube, you will see that he struggled against the short ball, which was his weakness at international as well. If Mohammad Wasim can rectify this issue of his, then Mohammad Wasim deserves that Head Coach job ASAP.

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    Breaking: Reports state that he too is being considered as chief Selector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kashmiri_Pak_fan View Post
    Breaking: Reports state that he too is being considered as chief Selector.
    Shukar Allah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    Shukar Allah.
    Tbf, I dont want him as chief selector because he wont have a say in how and where the players get to play.
    I would much rather prefer him to keep doing the good work at Northern and progress to the National side as coach.
    This will also create a great example of how coaches can progress in this system and would thus encourage a culture where they adopt Waseem's refreshimg method and philosophy of coaching/ player development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacy with wisdom View Post
    Tbf, I dont want him as chief selector because he wont have a say in how and where the players get to play.
    I would much rather prefer him to keep doing the good work at Northern and progress to the National side as coach.
    This will also create a great example of how coaches can progress in this system and would thus encourage a culture where they adopt Waseem's refreshimg method and philosophy of coaching/ player development.
    I do enjoy his work at Northern but I think heís already left a very solid legacy. I would not be opposed to either scenario happening - if he isnít promoted, Iíll be happy that he will potentially oversee the promotion of Abdul Faseeh and Mubasir Khan to the first XI, and if he does become selector, Iíll for the first time in a long time have faith that there is a specific brand of cricketer being selected for the national team, keeping our weaknesses in mind.

    The best combo I would like to see in due course (1-2 years time) is Wasim as Head Coach and Akram as Chief Selector - I think they would pair together very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    I do enjoy his work at Northern but I think he’s already left a very solid legacy. I would not be opposed to either scenario happening - if he isn’t promoted, I’ll be happy that he will potentially oversee the promotion of Abdul Faseeh and Mubasir Khan to the first XI, and if he does become selector, I’ll for the first time in a long time have faith that there is a specific brand of cricketer being selected for the national team, keeping our weaknesses in mind.

    The best combo I would like to see in due course (1-2 years time) is Wasim as Head Coach and Akram as Chief Selector - I think they would pair together very well.
    I wouldn't mind either, if he becomes the chief selector or if he doesn't. He has an eye for young talent, and he knows how to gradually promote young talent. Also he knows how to coach a team to play attacking/modern day cricket. But personally, I rather have him as the Northern 1st head coach because he can be the next upcoming head coach for Pakistan. Within a year if Pakistan don't do good in the upcoming World T20 Cup, then I feel Misbah will be fired and then that is when M Wasim can come. So he is our next upcoming coach, who is part of the system and will get promoted within the system

    Also the big reason, why he should stay as head coach of Northern 1st Xi is because I don't think there is an another coach that can replace him and follow his legacy. Even though the assistant coach Mohammad Masroor is a great coach, but he is still new to top level cricket.

    Also to have that combination, Pakistan should hire M Akram as a chief selector now. I don't think he will put his name in the hat again. He loves his job as Director of Cricket at Peshawar Zalmi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    Shukar Allah.
    Mate, I can't emphasize how strongly I DO NOT want him to get the Chief Selector's role. Not that he wouldn't do a decent job. However, this may yet again be a classic case of the PCB rushing things. We've done it historically with quicks who we're not quite seasoned yet (Shaheen initially, now Naseem and probably Husnain) and now we're doing it with our one sole coaching mega talent, in Mohammad Wasim.

    As the other poster here has alluded to, Waseem could pick a sensible squad, but under Misbah's dour, uninspiring coaching would many of the selections do much? Case in point, would a Hammad Azam or an Asif Ali do anything under Misbah?

    There's actually a separate discussion here about how the combined chief selector and coach role is actually very good, but with the right guy in charge. If that guy is Mohammad Waseem, then great. However if the role is split and Misbah has any one of those two roles, you either get perplexing selections or a team that plays within itself. You attach Waseem to that, you diminish him by association, which would be a travesty given the energy and good vibes the man brings to his work.

    I'd much rather that Mo Waseem finishes the complete QEA trophy, does well in the Pakistan Cup and then has a senior role in the upcoming PSL, with it's higher stakes.

    If Mohammad Akram InshAllah gets the gig, there may be an opening at Peshawar Zalmi for Mo Waseem. Or maybe he could work with the Kings, after Deano's passing, as I doubt Wasim Akram would want the head coach gig full time, especially on the strategic side. Or he may want an assistant, similar to Abdur Rehman's work with the Multan Sultans.

    In closing, the earliest you want Mohammad Wasim in the PCT set up is post T20 World Cup 2021. It'll allow him time to develop his coaching skills better, whilst working in the PSL will surely give him experience managing egos etc. In the mean time if the PCT suffer from his immediate lack of involvement, so be it. There's much more value in developing Mo Waseem in the long term to aid Pakistan cricket, rather than shoehorning him in the short term and then tarring him when things inevitably go wrong for Misbah

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfPakBreakfast View Post
    Mate, I can't emphasize how strongly I DO NOT want him to get the Chief Selector's role. Not that he wouldn't do a decent job. However, this may yet again be a classic case of the PCB rushing things. We've done it historically with quicks who we're not quite seasoned yet (Shaheen initially, now Naseem and probably Husnain) and now we're doing it with our one sole coaching mega talent, in Mohammad Wasim.

    As the other poster here has alluded to, Waseem could pick a sensible squad, but under Misbah's dour, uninspiring coaching would many of the selections do much? Case in point, would a Hammad Azam or an Asif Ali do anything under Misbah?

    There's actually a separate discussion here about how the combined chief selector and coach role is actually very good, but with the right guy in charge. If that guy is Mohammad Waseem, then great. However if the role is split and Misbah has any one of those two roles, you either get perplexing selections or a team that plays within itself. You attach Waseem to that, you diminish him by association, which would be a travesty given the energy and good vibes the man brings to his work.

    I'd much rather that Mo Waseem finishes the complete QEA trophy, does well in the Pakistan Cup and then has a senior role in the upcoming PSL, with it's higher stakes.

    If Mohammad Akram InshAllah gets the gig, there may be an opening at Peshawar Zalmi for Mo Waseem. Or maybe he could work with the Kings, after Deano's passing, as I doubt Wasim Akram would want the head coach gig full time, especially on the strategic side. Or he may want an assistant, similar to Abdur Rehman's work with the Multan Sultans.

    In closing, the earliest you want Mohammad Wasim in the PCT set up is post T20 World Cup 2021. It'll allow him time to develop his coaching skills better, whilst working in the PSL will surely give him experience managing egos etc. In the mean time if the PCT suffer from his immediate lack of involvement, so be it. There's much more value in developing Mo Waseem in the long term to aid Pakistan cricket, rather than shoehorning him in the short term and then tarring him when things inevitably go wrong for Misbah
    Top post, and I suppose youíre right. Itís difficult to imagine anyone doing better than Mohammad Wasim in this role, but there might be a potential entry for him post the 2021 WC on the cards - taking the Head Coach role, where he will have a much larger impact than as Chief Selector.

    Your point about Misbahís coaching handicapping the selections is valid - might as well bring Akram into the setup as selector right now, and replace Misbah in a yearís time or so while Wasim hones his skillset.

    I donít think any later than that is a good idea, though. Wasim needs to be given at least 2 years with the team before the 2023 World Cup, any less than that and he wonít be able to do much in the way of developing players individually, in addition to cementing the team combination as a whole.

    One thing that does restore hope though, is that his name is at least being considered. Many posters might take it for granted here when his name entered the ring, but many past PCB admins would have failed to acknowledge the excellent work heís been doing with Northern. The fact that his work is being recognized tells us about Wasim Khanís thought process and indicates an attention to detail, not a small task at all considering the number of responsibilities he juggles simultaneously.

    The same goes for Mohammad Akramís involvement - it indicates that theyíre impressed with the work heís done at Zalmi, which in turn means they were following that work in the first place. As long as this attention to detail and vetting process is in place, we can be reasonably confident about any appointment that happens. There is a specific criteria theyíre looking for, rather than just appointing someone who ďseemsĒ like they know about domestics and has a ďvisionĒ they can get behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    Top post, and I suppose youíre right. Itís difficult to imagine anyone doing better than Mohammad Wasim in this role, but there might be a potential entry for him post the 2021 WC on the cards - taking the Head Coach role, where he will have a much larger impact than as Chief Selector.

    Your point about Misbahís coaching handicapping the selections is valid - might as well bring Akram into the setup as selector right now, and replace Misbah in a yearís time or so while Wasim hones his skillset.

    I donít think any later than that is a good idea, though. Wasim needs to be given at least 2 years with the team before the 2023 World Cup, any less than that and he wonít be able to do much in the way of developing players individually, in addition to cementing the team combination as a whole.

    One thing that does restore hope though, is that his name is at least being considered. Many posters might take it for granted here when his name entered the ring, but many past PCB admins would have failed to acknowledge the excellent work heís been doing with Northern. The fact that his work is being recognized tells us about Wasim Khanís thought process and indicates an attention to detail, not a small task at all considering the number of responsibilities he juggles simultaneously.

    The same goes for Mohammad Akramís involvement - it indicates that theyíre impressed with the work heís done at Zalmi, which in turn means they were following that work in the first place. As long as this attention to detail and vetting process is in place, we can be reasonably confident about any appointment that happens. There is a specific criteria theyíre looking for, rather than just appointing someone who ďseemsĒ like they know about domestics and has a ďvisionĒ they can get behind.
    Agree with your point on the two year bedding prior to 2023. Allows him to bed in and establish 'his' team. Post 2021 we'll also have a firmer idea of Babar's captaincy potential AND more importantly how some of the younger lads I.e. Haider, Shafique, Rohail, Naseem, Danish etc. perform at the highest level. It'll tell us if it's a rebuilding job the new coach has, or a need to improve the incumbent squad.

    As a tangent, Younis Khan himself will be an factor in that, will he exist within the current set up without falling out with the current or future coaching staff? Misbah will at the very least not have his contract renewed, as he can't seem to improve us against the big boys. When he does leave, will Younis try to go for the head coach role? If he doesn't get it, will he be able to work under Mo Waseem?

    I think 2021 in it's entirety may well be a 'sliding doors' period for Pakistan, and the decisions made here will have a firm bearing on the next 5 years atleast. InshAllah may we make the right choices to succeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfPakBreakfast View Post
    Agree with your point on the two year bedding prior to 2023. Allows him to bed in and establish 'his' team. Post 2021 we'll also have a firmer idea of Babar's captaincy potential AND more importantly how some of the younger lads I.e. Haider, Shafique, Rohail, Naseem, Danish etc. perform at the highest level. It'll tell us if it's a rebuilding job the new coach has, or a need to improve the incumbent squad.

    As a tangent, Younis Khan himself will be an factor in that, will he exist within the current set up without falling out with the current or future coaching staff? Misbah will at the very least not have his contract renewed, as he can't seem to improve us against the big boys. When he does leave, will Younis try to go for the head coach role? If he doesn't get it, will he be able to work under Mo Waseem?

    I think 2021 in it's entirety may well be a 'sliding doors' period for Pakistan, and the decisions made here will have a firm bearing on the next 5 years atleast. InshAllah may we make the right choices to succeed.
    InshaAllah!

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    ďI would like to thank Muhammad Wasim for letting me bat up the order. Batting up the order has helped me to score more runs and he deserves a lot of thanks for backing meĒ ó Hammad Azam

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    Wasim was right about Mubasir Khan for sure.


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    If Shan, Abid, Azhar etc all fail in single figures once again in this next Test, eyes will turn to Mohammed Wasim to see how radical he will be in his squad selection.


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    Mohammad Wasim is due to start his role as Chief Selector from 6th January.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Mohammad Wasim is due to start his role as Chief Selector from 6th January.
    Great to see a new face with experience in domestic cricket and someone who showed progressive growth as head coach. Good luck to him.


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