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    Should Australia look beyond Starc for ODIs?

    Mitchell Starc has exellent stats in WC matches. However, outside that, he constantly goes over 7 RPO even in Aus.

    As a captain, you would not get 390 to defend every match. Considering WC 2023 to be held in subcontinent, as a captain would you give ball to Starc if opposition require 25 in 2 overs in a semifinal of a WC?

    Discuss?
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    Yes, I would. Starc is a wicket-taker and has economy of 5.18. He has also been brilliant in death overs.

    Only the last two games were absymal for him on all accounts.

    Go outside Australia, Sir Josh Hazelwood and Sir Pat Cummins will look mediocre in ODIs. With bat, Sir Steve Smith might also struggle.

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    He had 3 spells today, the 2nd one when Kohli and Iyer where batting was a very good spell and the dot balls took the game away from India.

    Overall, hes been terrible in these last 2 games.

    Maybe they should not discard him, however swap him with Cummins as the new ball bowler with Hazlewood.

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    Definitely not. He is a world class bowler who will come good.

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    You yourself mention that he has beastly WC stats. So of course the captain would back him to deliver in a WC.

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    I wonder why they not playing Jhye Richrdson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    Yes, I would. Starc is a wicket-taker and has economy of 5.18. He has also been brilliant in death overs.

    Only the last two games were absymal for him on all accounts.

    Go outside Australia, Sir Josh Hazelwood and Sir Pat Cummins will look mediocre in ODIs. With bat, Sir Steve Smith might also struggle.
    Sour grapes right. Sir Steve Smith scored 131 and 98 last time he was in India

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smudger View Post
    Sour grapes right. Sir Steve Smith scored 131 and 98 last time he was in India
    I am a huge fan of Steve Smith but he averages 36 in ODIs away from home. 36 is poor in this era.

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    Yesterday someone made a thread about Shami being the world's best ODI bowler when he was the least bad in the Indian bowling line up and now this. Too many kneejerk reactions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    Yes, I would. Starc is a wicket-taker and has economy of 5.18. He has also been brilliant in death overs.

    Only the last two games were absymal for him on all accounts.

    Go outside Australia, Sir Josh Hazelwood and Sir Pat Cummins will look mediocre in ODIs. With bat, Sir Steve Smith might also struggle.
    Smith had a very good world cup. Hazlewood has a 6fer in eng during 2017 champions trophy

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    Starc is still world class, two bad games won't change that.

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    Any captain would love to have a wicket-taker like Starc in his arsenal.

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    He is a world class odi bowler. Want to make that clear.
    ODI. TOP 3. bowling for fast bowlers is difficult on flat Pattas as bowl comes onto the bat too easy. That's why Starc, bumrah, Shami etc all struggled.

    Hazelwood takes place of the bowl and is slower than the rest. Cummins was a surprise in the second game but he did bowl under the lights which is easier.

    Average bowlers like pandya, Henriques, stoinis and zampa bowled better. So they are better than starc bumrah ROFL ?
    Last edited by tyron_woodley; 30th November 2020 at 08:11.

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    Do you want to see what Rohit did to hazwelood, Cummins in India last time on flat Pattas?

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    Yes replace him because he's probably the best over ODI bowler with 184 wickets in 96 matches, and 49 of those coming in 18 matches in world cup. He's out of form for a couple of games, there is nothing more to it.

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    This the king of all Knee jerk reaction threads.Lol

    Starc is probably a contender for ODI GOAT , just because he got annihilated in one or two series you want
    him out of the side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyron_woodley View Post
    He is a world class odi bowler. Want to make that clear.
    ODI. TOP 3. bowling for fast bowlers is difficult on flat Pattas as bowl comes onto the bat too easy. That's why Starc, bumrah, Shami etc all struggled.

    Hazelwood takes place of the bowl and is slower than the rest. Cummins was a surprise in the second game but he did bowl under the lights which is easier.

    Average bowlers like pandya, Henriques, stoinis and zampa bowled better. So they are better than starc bumrah ROFL ?
    Thing is when pak played the test under lights last year, the pitch wasn't any less flat and batting friendly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sindhiboy View Post
    Thing is when pak played the test under lights last year, the pitch wasn't any less flat and batting friendly.
    What are you trying to say?

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    No.
    Hes up against a good batting line up on flat pitches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyron_woodley View Post
    What are you trying to say?
    Batting in the second under lights may not be more difficult


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    Quote Originally Posted by sindhiboy View Post
    Batting in the second under lights may not be more difficult
    It is. If it's day night. India batted well past 7 O clock. Visibility gets worse.


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