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    Babar Azam now being sponsored by Gray Nicolls. 4th Pakistani currently sponsored by them

    Always a great honour to see our players be sponsored by foreign brands.

    Gray Nicolls doesn't offer sponsor to every player, they only give sponsors to the talented ones.

    Shaheen Shah Afridi, Shadab Khan, Rizwan and now Babar Azam are now sponsored by Gray Nicolls


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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    Always a great honour to see our players be sponsored by foreign brands.

    Gray Nicolls doesn't offer sponsor to every player, they only give sponsors to the talented ones.

    Shaheen Shah Afridi, Shadab Khan, Rizwan and now Babar Azam are now sponsored by Gray Nicolls
    Wish he is sponsored by MRF!

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    The only respectable batsman from Pakistan to be sponsored by Gray Nicks in the past was Mohammad Yousuf.

    Now Babar Azam MashaAllah.

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    The New Zealand series will be Shadab's last with Gray Nicolls.

    The other 3 have signed deals with Gray Nicolls.
    Last edited by Saj; 30th November 2020 at 02:50.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    The New Zealand series will be Shadab's last with Gray Nicolls.

    The other 3 have signed deals with them.
    Do you know the details of the Babar deal? They surely will be paying him decent money as well to be their Brand Ambassador?

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    Rizwan had a great england tour. Shaheen is one of the best young bowlers in the world. Why Shadab?

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    Do they get cash, or is it only free equipment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Do they get cash, or is it only free equipment
    Babar is good enough to demand a large premium. GM had a £150k deal with Ben Stokes I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Babar is good enough to demand a large premium. GM had a £150k deal with Ben Stokes I believe.
    But that's Ben Stokes. I would amazed if BA got 10% of the figure

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    Rizwan is with them for a more than 3 years now and Shaheen has also been with them for two years now.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    But that's Ben Stokes. I would amazed if BA got 10% of the figure
    Curious question: How much Kohli gets from MRF and Rohit gets from CEAT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rohan View Post
    Curious question: How much Kohli gets from MRF and Rohit gets from CEAT?
    Not sure but likely to be in the $mn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Rizwan had a great england tour. Shaheen is one of the best young bowlers in the world. Why Shadab?
    Pretty sure Rizwan was with them even in Australia last year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    The New Zealand series will be Shadab's last with Gray Nicolls.

    The other 3 have signed deals with Gray Nicolls.
    Are they not wanting to resign a new deal with Shadab?

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    Shadab will be a fixed test bat in future....

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    Well done babar for the contract with gray nicholles hopefully it inspires the youngesters to work hard

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    I prefer it when our players play with our own companies like CA and HS who produce world class bats. We should support our own companies not get hyped when our players use foreign ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minnowbasher View Post
    I prefer it when our players play with our own companies like CA and HS who produce world class bats. We should support our own companies not get hyped when our players use foreign ones.
    They could still very well be using bats made in Pakistan. Can you blame them for accepting money for having a different company’s stickers on them lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    Are they not wanting to resign a new deal with Shadab?
    No they aren't.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Minnowbasher View Post
    I prefer it when our players play with our own companies like CA and HS who produce world class bats. We should support our own companies not get hyped when our players use foreign ones.
    CA and Ihsan and Malik etc pay nothing compared to the likes of GM, Gray Nicolls etc.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    CA and Ihsan and Malik etc pay nothing compared to the likes of GM, Gray Nicolls etc.
    I wonder how much CA pays Eoin Morgan. Can't be peanuts.

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    Also, it's just stickers.

    The bats that these guys use are usually the ones they have been using all along, are familiar with and they just use the company's stickers.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Also, it's just stickers.

    The bats that these guys use are usually the ones they have been using all along, are familiar with and they just use the company's stickers.
    Surely they will use Babarís bat specs and design a custom bat for the public to buy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Surely they will use Babar’s bat specs and design a custom bat for the public to buy?
    One would have thought so.



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    The ultimate sponsor in batting remains MRF. If Babar gets sponsored by MRF, then it's really a big deal.

    Lara, Steve Waugh, Tendulkar, Kohli. If Babar gets sponsored by MRF, then Babar would be in elite company. Although MRF recently diluted its brand by having signed Dhawan. But I saw Dhawan using a Kookaburra bat in Australia, so that's good. Also saw Ajaz Patel using an MRF bat in tbe UAE. Not sure what was that all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shariqnoor View Post
    The ultimate sponsor in batting remains MRF. If Babar gets sponsored by MRF, then it's really a big deal.

    Lara, Steve Waugh, Tendulkar, Kohli. If Babar gets sponsored by MRF, then Babar would be in elite company. Although MRF recently diluted its brand by having signed Dhawan. But I saw Dhawan using a Kookaburra bat in Australia, so that's good. Also saw Ajaz Patel using an MRF bat in tbe UAE. Not sure what was that all about.
    MRF sponsoring a Pakistani is as good as Pakistan and India opening up its borders like England and Wales. They will never sponsor one of ours even if he does reach that Lara/Tendulkar/Kohli/Waugh category in stature.

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    I was literally about to buy the hs41 bat signed by him glad i came across this. it would be of no use now since hes switching to gray nichols

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    Quote Originally Posted by shariqnoor View Post
    The ultimate sponsor in batting remains MRF. If Babar gets sponsored by MRF, then it's really a big deal.

    Lara, Steve Waugh, Tendulkar, Kohli. If Babar gets sponsored by MRF, then Babar would be in elite company. Although MRF recently diluted its brand by having signed Dhawan. But I saw Dhawan using a Kookaburra bat in Australia, so that's good. Also saw Ajaz Patel using an MRF bat in tbe UAE. Not sure what was that all about.
    They have also signed de Villiers. Rohit was sponsored by them in his early days before moving on to CEAT.

    Amongst young players, they already have the supremely talented Prithvi Shaw on their roster.

    MRF is the most selective sponsor indeed. They rarely do business with non-elite players. The fact that Dhawan is probably the weakest player on their list says it all.

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    Hard to believe they signed Shadab in the first place. No wonder they donít want to renew their contract.

    Shadab is not remotely good enough to be sponsored by a big name brand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rohan View Post
    Curious question: How much Kohli gets from MRF and Rohit gets from CEAT?
    I think Kohli is 3 years into a 8 year $15 million deal with MRF for his bat sponsorship. He has a separate $15 million deal with Puma for his shoes.

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    Anyone remember when Younis Khan was sponsored by BDM. I actually think that itís a clever marketing move having one your rivals best batsman play with / sponsored by your bat.

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    Some iconic player and bat sponsors for me:
    Lara - MRF (genius I think it was)
    Tendulkar- MRF (those front drives full face of the bat showing the MRF logo was iconic
    Ponting - Kookaburra
    Imran Khan - Ihsan (was it the IK bat or something?)
    Afridi - (for me his MB Malik was more iconic than his boom boom) some of his most iconic sixes were from that bat and some great picture shots of him and that bat
    Rohit Sharma - CEAT
    Inzamam ul Haq - CA
    Sangakarra - SS
    Ms dhoni- Reebok
    David Warner and his custom square toe gray Nichols

    This is just a personal list Iím sure for others there are other player bat sponsors which people found iconic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nado_ View Post
    Some iconic player and bat sponsors for me:
    Lara - MRF (genius I think it was)
    Tendulkar- MRF (those front drives full face of the bat showing the MRF logo was iconic
    Ponting - Kookaburra
    Imran Khan - Ihsan (was it the IK bat or something?)
    Afridi - (for me his MB Malik was more iconic than his boom boom) some of his most iconic sixes were from that bat and some great picture shots of him and that bat
    Rohit Sharma - CEAT
    Inzamam ul Haq - CA
    Sangakarra - SS
    Ms dhoni- Reebok
    David Warner and his custom square toe gray Nichols

    This is just a personal list Iím sure for others there are other player bat sponsors which people found iconic.
    Dravid and Sehwag - Britannia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    Always a great honour to see our players be sponsored by foreign brands.

    Gray Nicolls doesn't offer sponsor to every player, they only give sponsors to the talented ones.

    Shaheen Shah Afridi, Shadab Khan, Rizwan and now Babar Azam are now sponsored by Gray Nicolls
    Why is it an honour to be sponsored by foreign brands ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Dravid and Sehwag - Britannia.
    Yes thatís definitely up there!

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    Imran Khan GM
    Viv Richards V100
    Hashim Amla BAS

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    People should understand that when companies sign up the cricketers, its not for the love of the game or player, its pure economics. MRF is the 6th largest tyre manufacturer in the world with sales of close to $3 bn, majorly in India but also in UK/Australia/Lanka etc. It's a B2C brand, the more its in front of our eyes, the better recall value it will have. So when they sign up SRT or Lara or even some IPL player, it's because they know that a quality player will be batting approximately XYZ mins in an year and some ABC mn people (potential customers) will be watching him bat. So in their internal calculations, they assess whether a deal was good or not, based upon the money they had to spend per minute of viewing time of their logo. Of course the better quality of player will ensure better brand recall value. So though MRF may not be having sales in WI but when Lara would bat, a lot of people from Asia/Australia/Eng would watch him bat, all of whom are their potential customers. I might be getting too technical but broadly that's how professional companies like MRF or CEAT measures ROI on every dollar spend. Similarly for Britannia or CEAT, both of which are $1 bn+ sales company and like any other B2C company have to spend money on advertisement/marketing.

    Anyway, point i want to drive is that how much money Babar make from bat sponsorship has very little to do with the quality of his batsmanship. A Shreyas Iyer with CEAT sponsorship might be making more money than Babar for his bat logo and that's because he plays IPL/international cricket and his bat is front of target audience (Indians primarily as i doubt any other countrymen would watch Iyer bat) 75+ days in an year. MRF or CEAT would not gain anything by making Babar a brand ambassador because CEAT/MRF doesn't have any sales (as far as i know) in Pakistan and Babar is not of the stature of Lara, that people would sit and watch him even when he's playing against some other country.

    As far as Gray Nicolls is concerned, it does sales of approx. $25-$30 mn annually, and assuming it spends 5-10% of its sales on marketing, it's entire marketing budget won't be more than $2-3 mn. It has signed up more than 35 cricketers across England, Australia and Pakistan and even if top 20% would be getting 80% of sponsorship money, i doubt anyone would make more than $150-200K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenstorm View Post
    Why is it an honour to be sponsored by foreign brands ?
    foreing brands are big brands not small brands. Our local brands are just small brands.

    there is a difference between being sponsored by HS and Adidas


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    Quote Originally Posted by hamza4428 View Post
    I was literally about to buy the hs41 bat signed by him glad i came across this. it would be of no use now since hes switching to gray nichols
    You need the specs, not the bat. That being said, i am seriously tempted to splash the cash on the Ben Stokes GM bat which is about £500 uk price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    foreing brands are big brands not small brands. Our local brands are just small brands.

    there is a difference between being sponsored by HS and Adidas
    big or small would depend upon their ranking in your country. So if HS has more sales than Adidas in Pakistan then it would be better for Babar to signup with HS because he's likely to get more money and more importantly he would help a local brand grow big. I don't think any cricketer think so much about their country but they should. There's no harm in promoting local companies, helping them grow big and make big bucks when they eventually become big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah Rabbani View Post
    Imran Khan GM
    Viv Richards V100
    Hashim Amla BAS
    I was tempted to put Amlas BAS bat in there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    foreing brands are big brands not small brands. Our local brands are just small brands.

    there is a difference between being sponsored by HS and Adidas
    Is it less honourable to use Malik or CA (used by Morgan) bat ?

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    Great stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zain7077 View Post
    Love how they've photoshopped images of Babar playing with a GN bat before he's actually done so

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    I wonder which bat maker is actually the most preferred by international batsman as we know that most cases they only use the stickers of the sponsor and not the actual bat, (still remember Dhoni would still have the SS sign on the edges on his Reebok bat !)

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    CA is the god brand when it comes to cricketing bats, but yeah the foreign brands pay more for sponsorships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nado_ View Post
    I wonder which bat maker is actually the most preferred by international batsman as we know that most cases they only use the stickers of the sponsor and not the actual bat, (still remember Dhoni would still have the SS sign on the edges on his Reebok bat !)
    Surely its CA

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    Quote Originally Posted by angrypathan View Post
    Love how they've photoshopped images of Babar playing with a GN bat before he's actually done so
    Theyíre not the only ones to use black and white as a technique to hide signs of a photoshop ;)

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    Loved watching Yousuf playing with Gray Nicolls. One of my favourite bat manufacturers if not the favourite, oozes an elite touch with the kind of players they have had. Babar + Gray Nicolls is a class combo, hopefully it turns out to be as good for Babar as it was for Yousuf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Loved watching Yousuf playing with Gray Nicolls. One of my favourite bat manufacturers if not the favourite, oozes an elite touch with the kind of players they have had. Babar + Gray Nicolls is a class combo, hopefully it turns out to be as good for Babar as it was for Yousuf.
    Kane Williamson and now Babar Azam

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    So the reports suggest he will be using The Gray Nicolls Blue Maax for his first series in NZ

    Can someone please confirm this? The design of the bat is beautiful, will look very elegant in Babar Azamís hand and through his stroke-play

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    So the reports suggest he will be using The Gray Nicolls Blue Maax for his first series in NZ

    Can someone please confirm this? The design of the bat is beautiful, will look very elegant in Babar Azam’s hand and through his stroke-play
    Yes he will be using the Blue Maax, I think it's just the sticker on a Pakistani bat though. His helmet will also change to that gray nicolls one like Kane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indian_cricket_fan View Post
    Wish he is sponsored by MRF!
    Imagine the backlash by Indian public after they see MRF's logo on a Pakistani superstar's cricket bat. I am pretty sure MRF knows how narrowminded Indian public is. They don't want to see people burning MRF tyres which will affect both their business and environment.


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    I've never quite understood this bat business.

    So is Babar going to use a bat manufactured by GN or is he just being sponsored by them and will just stick a GN label on one of his bats and gloves/helmtet etc..?

    @Titan24 @Thunderbolt14 any idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zain7077 View Post
    Yes he will be using the Blue Maax, I think it's just the sticker on a Pakistani bat though. His helmet will also change to that gray nicolls one like Kane.
    Same as HS I think. They were just stickers on £70-80 wood from Sialkot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesozoic View Post
    I've never quite understood this bat business.

    So is Babar going to use a bat manufactured by GN or is he just being sponsored by them and will just stick a GN label on one of his bats and gloves/helmtet etc..?

    @Titan24 @Thunderbolt14 any idea?
    The link in the tweet should have the details

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    Quote Originally Posted by happydavy View Post
    big or small would depend upon their ranking in your country. So if HS has more sales than Adidas in Pakistan then it would be better for Babar to signup with HS because he's likely to get more money and more importantly he would help a local brand grow big. I don't think any cricketer think so much about their country but they should. There's no harm in promoting local companies, helping them grow big and make big bucks when they eventually become big.
    I am not talking in terms of money.

    Im talking in terms of branding and endorsement. Hs can go on to pay 1 carore but its not big well recognized brand.

    When you associate with a brand even with less money it helps in your self promotion aswell.

    Players like micheal jordan benefitted by the right brand association.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenstorm View Post
    Is it less honourable to use Malik or CA (used by Morgan) bat ?
    Shows your worth.

    If you get sponsored by a poor brand like boom boom bubble gum it doesnt look good upon you even if they offer good money.

    The benefit of being sponsored by a good brand is that it also improves your image aswell. Jordan got nike doing its marketing, usain bolt aswell.

    Malik and CA are really poor brands. They have not bother to work on their brand image.

    It sucks that while we boost about having a sports equipment market, those are all secondary sector industries.

    We do not have a teritary sector brand in sports equipment. CA, Ihsan, and malik were always secondary sector brands and i really doubt they will ever appear in teritary sector.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    Shows your worth.

    If you get sponsored by a poor brand like boom boom bubble gum it doesnt look good upon you even if they offer good money.

    The benefit of being sponsored by a good brand is that it also improves your image aswell. Jordan got nike doing its marketing, usain bolt aswell.

    Malik and CA are really poor brands. They have not bother to work on their brand image.

    It sucks that while we boost about having a sports equipment market, those are all secondary sector industries.

    We do not have a teritary sector brand in sports equipment. CA, Ihsan, and malik were always secondary sector brands and i really doubt they will ever appear in teritary sector.
    What are you talking about Malik and CA are poor brands? CA at least is one of the best pieces of willow, and the 15000 is by far a very popular bat amongst the Professional cricketers in Pakistan, a lot of county played also use the CA 15000, and I have seen international cricketers (non Pakistanis) use it as well.

    I donít think you have used these two bats but they are very highly rated amongst the Ďplaying
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesozoic View Post
    I've never quite understood this bat business.

    So is Babar going to use a bat manufactured by GN or is he just being sponsored by them and will just stick a GN label on one of his bats and gloves/helmtet etc..?

    @Titan24 @Thunderbolt14 any idea?
    To be honest I am not 100% sure. As per my understanding equipment like gloves, helmet, pads, guards etc. will surely be provided by Gray Nicolls but, when it comes to bat which requires a certain comfort level and customization I think sometimes its just a sticker change but the manufacturer can create a custom made bat for the player and if he is comfortable with that he can use that bat itself.

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    The new bat edition which Babar will possibly use against NZ:

    Blue Maax

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    To be honest I am not 100% sure. As per my understanding equipment like gloves, helmet, pads, guards etc. will surely be provided by Gray Nicolls but, when it comes to bat which requires a certain comfort level and customization I think sometimes its just a sticker change but the manufacturer can create a custom made bat for the player and if he is comfortable with that he can use that bat itself.
    So, there are specialist bat manufacturers. From my own knowledge, English bats are usually manufactured at licenced workshops owned by Newberry and M&H. These companies provide hand crafted bats (without stickers) to sub companies at a discounted rate, who then apply their own stickers and sell them at their own rates.

    In the case of professional players, they have specific requirements to their bats which are exclusive with such workshops. The sponsor will then be the one dealing with the workshops and purchasing the customised bats/willow and applying the stickers to the bat for the cricketer as his sponsor.

    I believe in Babar Azamís case. GN will be in contact with the workshop in Sialkot where Babar Azam has got his cricket bats made from, and they will be applying the GN Maax stickers to his bat for him to use. But they will also make their own bats in the same design in England with the English willow, and market it as ďthe bat used by Babar AzamĒ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    So, there are specialist bat manufacturers. From my own knowledge, English bats are usually manufactured at licenced workshops owned by Newberry and M&H. These companies provide hand crafted bats (without stickers) to sub companies at a discounted rate, who then apply their own stickers and sell them at their own rates.

    In the case of professional players, they have specific requirements to their bats which are exclusive with such workshops. The sponsor will then be the one dealing with the workshops and purchasing the customised bats/willow and applying the stickers to the bat for the cricketer as his sponsor.

    I believe in Babar Azam’s case. GN will be in contact with the workshop in Sialkot where Babar Azam has got his cricket bats made from, and they will be applying the GN Maax stickers to his bat for him to use. But they will also make their own bats in the same design in England with the English willow, and market it as “the bat used by Babar Azam”.
    Thats really informative. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesozoic View Post
    I've never quite understood this bat business.

    So is Babar going to use a bat manufactured by GN or is he just being sponsored by them and will just stick a GN label on one of his bats and gloves/helmtet etc..?

    @Titan24 @Thunderbolt14 any idea?
    Before I answer your question, let me just say this: Babar is very, very particular about his bats. Heís almost Steve Smith level obsessive about this kind of stuff, numerous people from the dressing room have testified about this. He polishes, cleans his bats daily, knows how to take care of the wood using oil and a knocking hammer, and has very specific demands about the weight and feel of his bats. There was a joke in the dressing room that once one of the players (I think it was Amir) needed his batís handle/rubber sleeve fixed. So he quietly left his bat next to Babarís overnight, and returned the next day to find it magically shining and all ready to go.

    Point being, it would be a big deal if Babar changes the actual bat. But I do expect GN to send a kitbag of bats over. I am quite sure he has his own custom specifications for any bat he buys, so he will likely send that over and GN will send him both stickers as well as a collection of tailor-made bats.

    I am guessing Babarís kit bag 6 months from now will contain 2-3 non-GN bats with the GN sticker in addition to 2-3 GN bats with custom specifications (modified Blue MaaxĎs from Sialkot, according to @Rana). After that, Babar will rotate and use his bats as he sees fit, but if he doesnít like the GN bats I am sure he will ditch them immediately.
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    I wouldnít be surprised if Babar Azam had offers from Gun and Moore or New Ballance on the table as well.

    I think Babar has chosen wisely in this case. The peak years of his batting, where he is expected to score huge, meaningful runs as the captain of the side are going to be with Gray Nichols. Great manufacturer with excellent ambassadors in the past who have given the name a lot of prestige.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    They have also signed de Villiers. Rohit was sponsored by them in his early days before moving on to CEAT.

    Amongst young players, they already have the supremely talented Prithvi Shaw on their roster.

    MRF is the most selective sponsor indeed. They rarely do business with non-elite players. The fact that Dhawan is probably the weakest player on their list says it all.
    Oh how can I forget De Villiers. MRF really takes on the creme de la creme of batters. However, I believe MRF shouldn't have taken Prithvi Shaw on board. There's no doubt about his talent but I associate MRF with established superstars. Not upcoming talents. Maybe when Prithvi is as big of a matchwinner as Rohit Sharma, then MRF can have him on board but it's too early for my liking.

    Dhawan is an exceptional bat himself but him being in the same company as Lara, Waugh, Tendulkar, Kohli, De Villiers is not right. Dhawan looks a misfit in that category. He's second tier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    I wouldn’t be surprised if Babar Azam had offers from Gun and Moore or New Ballance on the table as well.

    I think Babar has chosen wisely in this case. The peak years of his batting, where he is expected to score huge, meaningful runs as the captain of the side are going to be with Gray Nichols. Great manufacturer with excellent ambassadors in the past who have given the name a lot of prestige.
    I used to have cheap tape ball bats with GM sticker. GM was the ultimate bragging point back in the late 90s in Karachi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    What are you talking about Malik and CA are poor brands? CA at least is one of the best pieces of willow, and the 15000 is by far a very popular bat amongst the Professional cricketers in Pakistan, a lot of county played also use the CA 15000, and I have seen international cricketers (non Pakistanis) use it as well.

    I don’t think you have used these two bats but they are very highly rated amongst the ‘playing
    Community’.
    you completely missed my point.

    No where in my post did i mention that CA offers poor products. What i said was they are poor brands.

    There is difference between product and branding.

    CA, Ihsan, Malik are good secondary sector companies, but they still haven't established themselves as tertiary brand.

    Heck, even this this Gray nicolls brand, Babar might just use the stickers. But at the end of the day, its the gray nicolls brand that gets shown.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    you completely missed my point.

    No where in my post did i mention that CA offers poor products. What i said was they are poor brands.

    There is difference between product and branding.

    CA, Ihsan, Malik are good secondary sector companies, but they still haven't established themselves as tertiary brand.

    Heck, even this this Gray nicolls brand, Babar might just use the stickers. But at the end of the day, its the gray nicolls brand that gets shown.
    Yes I totally understand your point but I kindly disagree with it. You can probably argue that Malik has not made itself as that tertiary Brand, but it canít be said with CA.

    CA bat price range is the same as GM, GN, New Ballance and other established cricket equipment manufacturers in the world. It is also highly popular amongst the South Asian playing community throughout the world.

    Iím not sure as to how you want a company to become a Ďbrandí anymore than it is in terms of its popularity amongst people who want to buy bats. The CA captain Morgs is a £450 cricket bat, and the 15000 is a £300 cricket bat which is very popular amongst the richer Pakistani kids (in Pakistan) who donít really play much but are happy to spend money on fancy bats.

    Maybe I am missing your point on what exactly is a brand, therefore I would like to hear it.

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    Whatever happened to the brand BDM, always liked their logo

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    Have to say CA do quality bats, and the ihsan bat is rated highly too but they donít do many different types of models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    I wouldn’t be surprised if Babar Azam had offers from Gun and Moore or New Ballance on the table as well.

    I think Babar has chosen wisely in this case. The peak years of his batting, where he is expected to score huge, meaningful runs as the captain of the side are going to be with Gray Nichols. Great manufacturer with excellent ambassadors in the past who have given the name a lot of prestige.
    GM and NB as well as Adidas have been steering well clear of Pakistani players after some bad experiences.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    GM and NB as well as Adidas have been steering well clear of Pakistani players after some bad experiences.
    I think Adidas have every right to be annoyed with Pakistan. I remember Salman Butt really did promote the Adidas Incruza range very well, but they must feel highly humiliated because of him as well at the time when he got caught.

    Which Pakistani cricketers have been working with New Ballance in the Past? They are fairly new in the market and we have not had the type of cricketers who they usually look for to promote their cricket bats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    I think Adidas have every right to be annoyed with Pakistan. I remember Salman Butt really did promote the Adidas Incruza range very well, but they must feel highly humiliated because of him as well at the time when he got caught.

    Which Pakistani cricketers have been working with New Ballance in the Past? They are fairly new in the market and we have not had the type of cricketers who they usually look for to promote their cricket bats.
    GM was Wahab.

    NB was Mohammad Sami.

    Both apparantly messed them around.



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    Any idea how much babar is getting paid frok this sponsorship deals and how much are they normally worth

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    the hs bats were apparently from his own lot but i was buying it more for the reason that hs 41 is only used by him since hes switching now i highly doubt anyone is even gonna remember that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    So, there are specialist bat manufacturers. From my own knowledge, English bats are usually manufactured at licenced workshops owned by Newberry and M&H. These companies provide hand crafted bats (without stickers) to sub companies at a discounted rate, who then apply their own stickers and sell them at their own rates.

    In the case of professional players, they have specific requirements to their bats which are exclusive with such workshops. The sponsor will then be the one dealing with the workshops and purchasing the customised bats/willow and applying the stickers to the bat for the cricketer as his sponsor.

    I believe in Babar Azamís case. GN will be in contact with the workshop in Sialkot where Babar Azam has got his cricket bats made from, and they will be applying the GN Maax stickers to his bat for him to use. But they will also make their own bats in the same design in England with the English willow, and market it as ďthe bat used by Babar AzamĒ.
    Babar Azam has bats made by SS and recently mainly from Tim Keeley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    GM was Wahab.

    NB was Mohammad Sami.

    Both apparantly messed them around.
    Umar Akmal used to have a GM as well for his initial few years in international cricket.

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    Kamran Akmal have been sponsored by GN and GM both in different parts of his career.


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