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3rd January 2021, 17:54 #1
[Video] Indian Comedian Munawar Faruqui Beaten Up, Arrested For Mocking Hindu Deities
The Griffins ....
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3rd January 2021, 17:59 #2
Worse than being beaten up he was even arrested for ‘outraging religious feelings’.
Imagine being arrested for hurting someone’s feelings. In 2021. Pathetic.
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3rd January 2021, 18:43 #3
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3rd January 2021, 18:51 #4
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3rd January 2021, 18:54 #5
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3rd January 2021, 19:03 #6
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3rd January 2021, 19:14 #7
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Fair enough. If Islam cannot be insulted in India , same goes for Hinduism.
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3rd January 2021, 19:17 #8
Slight emotions would be a protest tweet or holding a placard assuming the country was religious in the first place. Here we are talking about a "secular" nation where religious minorites are brutally assaulted and arrested by the authorities for merely partaking freedom of expression. Please explain?
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3rd January 2021, 19:19 #9
Haha, from justifying to people here why Islam should be allowed to be insulted under secular democracies to now saying oh well if one religion is insulted so can the other. Do you want that makes you? A hypocrite. Guess that's the hallmark of Indian trolls here, hiding behind western usernames too. Patehtic.
Another one welcomed to my ignore list.
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3rd January 2021, 19:21 #10
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3rd January 2021, 19:30 #11
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Simple explanation - first, you were singing a different tune when people in France, another 'secular' country, exercised freedom of expression. Don't worry, being hypocrite is not a crime, yet.
second, your understanding of Indian 'secularism' as defined by our constitution is faulty. I suggest you rely more on credible papers, than your bigoted whatsapp group messages.
https://www.law.upenn.edu/cf/faculty...ianContext.pdf
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3rd January 2021, 19:30 #12
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He shouldn't be insulting any Hindu deities because it leads to trouble. There is plenty to mock without mocking peoples religious beliefs.
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3rd January 2021, 19:39 #13
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I already replied above, and I suggest you fix your understanding of Secularism. It is one of the most complex English word. I hope you will stop your 'secular' bogey.
Few slaps is still a 'slight' emotion in comparison to be-heading. as your brothers have been doing for past few thousand years (only). You don't need to be an expert of 'theory of relativity' to comprehend this.
Also, imagine a Hindu comic in India making fun of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), will you still defend Hindu comic's right of free speech because India is a 'secular' state? Answer this question please, I will be mostly interested.
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3rd January 2021, 19:49 #14
Yes I see you have responded to my post twice, it seems emotion has certainly been stirred whether we can call it secular or religious. I am not sure across both posts what it is you want me to answer? Explanation of secularism or what constitutes violent assault?
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3rd January 2021, 19:55 #15
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I think English may not be your first language. So let me type slowly, so you can understand my question -
Will you defend the right of free speech of a Hindu comic in India if he were to make fun of Prophet Mohammad(PBUH)? India is a 'secular' country, so I think you will not have any problem. Right?
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3rd January 2021, 20:02 #16
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3rd January 2021, 20:11 #17
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Ram ram ram. What’s is happening in tolerant and secular India?
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3rd January 2021, 20:57 #18
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3rd January 2021, 20:58 #19
Whole heartedly support punishment for anyone who mocks deities. This is a line no one should cross, and if they do, should be prepared for justice.
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3rd January 2021, 21:04 #20
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3rd January 2021, 21:10 #21
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3rd January 2021, 21:11 #22
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If you need to mock sacred figures and religious deities to get some laughs in your comedy show then its probably time to rethink your career.
Religious figures should not be spoken about in an offensive manner.
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3rd January 2021, 21:16 #23
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3rd January 2021, 21:22 #25
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3rd January 2021, 21:25 #26
I'm just going to leave this here. pic.twitter.com/C8eqqDzPya
— Vir Das (@thevirdas) January 3, 2021
https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/entertainment-others/varun-grover-vir-das-rally-behind-comedian-arrested-for-indecent-remarks-about-hindu-deities-7131113/Last edited by JaDed; 3rd January 2021 at 21:27.
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3rd January 2021, 21:29 #29
Sigh, why can't people learn to ignore? If you don't like that comedian or find his shows offensive, don't attend the show, don't watch the video, why give unnecessary coverage? Idiotic priorities for a country/society plagued with serious problems adversely affecting daily life.
Shame on MP police and people who are finding ways to justify the arrest. Clampdown on cartoonists, comedians, peaceful protesters, what a democracy!!!
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3rd January 2021, 21:33 #31
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Not really. I don’t think all Muslim countries have a blasphemy law embedded in them. It just feels that it is an unwritten rule like love your kids or respect your parents or be nice to others kind of thing where you need to respect others religious sentiments. May be this is me living in secular democracies all
My life talking and May be I don’t understand how states founded on religious incompatibility deal with it. I don’t think God or men who are enlightened beings or prophets are that insensitive that they care for what people think of them anyways.
Now coming to this comedian, I see black comedians make fun of other races but they do point out social issues as well, goes for every good
Comic, I don’t mean equivalence for the sake of it.
Also I wonder how it would have turned out for this comedian had he insulted islamic practices being a Muslim. Last time an Indian author wrote a book, that had some cryptic message criticizing his religion, he became an international refugee, banned in his own country which is supposedly secular.
Anyways either this is going to go all over your head or you are going to nod in affirmative but then go back to the same argument again, so it is futile, but hey give me credit for trying as we probably have been here before.
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3rd January 2021, 21:36 #32
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No some of them are lucky enough to escape
with a hit on their head for their test of their lives like Rushdie or the Taslima. The rest are obviousky beheaded. That is not a euphemism for death, they are actually beheaded with swords in 2020, make whatever of that.
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3rd January 2021, 21:39 #33
Why are Athiest 'Hindus' upset over this?
Though I agree there should be a line for comedians. Muppets needs to understand that offending someone's personal beliefs is not comedy, it's desperation.
Try making a laugh out of 9/11, Holocaust, or even disabled people. Lets see how hard you'll laugh.
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3rd January 2021, 21:41 #34
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3rd January 2021, 21:42 #35
This is not about Islamic counties , it’s about India, this is a massive mess.
Religion is the worst thing that has happened to South Asia; China, Russia are so lucky they got rid of it, even the communists in India are useless.
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3rd January 2021, 21:51 #40
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3rd January 2021, 21:54 #41
Who here has heard of Michael McIntyre?
He is the most succesful comedian on the planet.
His comedy standups do not include profanity, it's clean, family friendly, and his topics never include religion, politics, etc. Just everyday experiences turned into laughter.
He is succesful because he's proven you don't need to mock religion/politics for the giggles.
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3rd January 2021, 21:56 #42
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3rd January 2021, 21:57 #43
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Religion is fine and has its own benefit if used in the right quality and quantity.
However the immediate concern is these supposed standup comics who speak a irritating version of Hinglish and cater to a certain section that I call South Mumbai crowd( may include posh areas of other big cities of India where you will find quiet a few such posers accepting of these bozos).
These guys are not very funny and try to ape the west.
The sensibilities don’t translate in India. We don’t have a white guilt equivalent or whatever. In the last few centuries every Indian regardless of Hindu or Muslim or any other religion/caste, has been a victim of some form of discrimination in some time in our history, so you can’t blame Indians for not being ready and a little Sensitive to this kind of humor involving culture and religion.
Bigger problem is some Indian youth in general who are having confused sensibilities.
At least look at Pakistanis, most of them even the British expats speak like they are addressing the Mughal court in 1600 in pretty much every scenario
They seem to have a more retro sensibility when it comes to humor like calling some one a kalla or a mota or using phrases like Hinduon ki zehniyat and bagal me churi waala hindu baniyaan or breaking tvs when Hindu customs are shown.
They seem to be accepting of their humor sensibilities a lot more though.
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3rd January 2021, 22:06 #48
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I have seen comedians make fun of 9/11 but not from a political, religious aspect or even make fun of the dead. It drew groans from the crowd but that’s about it.
Holocaust will have a different impact though, I think Megan Fox called someone a Jew or
Something and her career was done and many such instances in Hollywood where careers were destroyed for Anti Semitic statements that don’t look very serious in some cases. It’s still not acceptable though.
On the other hand we have made satirical movies like OMG and PK block buster hits even though they were pushing the envelope and were biased towards one religion.Last edited by Local.Dada; 3rd January 2021 at 22:08.
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3rd January 2021, 22:12 #51
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We have been in lockdown for a year now but I am sure most of us with an access to internet and some moderate level of intelligence to comprehend and follow the news have seen careers being destroyed on perceived racist,anti Semitic,misogynistic statements that they might have said a long time ago (doesn’t make it right though).
Yeah they might not have been arrested and spent a night in jail but got away lightly with their careers being destroyed. In the “west” I may add.
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3rd January 2021, 22:16 #52
To those who say that ignore it when someone mocks your religion or holy figures, how will you react if someone abuses your parents/sisters/daughters right on your face? If you will present a smile and walk away, then must admire your principles (which may be from zen like state of mind, or broken family relationships). Only that you won't and will give excuse that your family members are real and someones holy figures are not real for you.
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Here is the problem, in the US or other counties common folk are common folk. They move on after initial outrage. Do we even know or followed what is happening with Disha or SSR case which was the staple of every news channel a few months back?
However there is a powerful power center, that takes decisions behind the scenes. As we know Hollywood is controlled by powerful Jewish folk and they will never tolerate anything anti Semitic or even remotely trying to understand Hitler’s policies and administration from a neutral perspective. Yes he was an evil man but has anyone ever had a take or tried to understand on his rise to power or if he make even 1 meaningful decision in his reign? You will never get that.
In India there is no such lobby, I mean yes there is a power center of a few who control the industry but none of them come across as someone with any strong emotional attachment or ideology. They are probably idiots who are kept around by the powerful lobby above them. However we do have a mob justice attitude. So when someone gets out of hand, we take it to the cops or the second best option in our own hands because we know that nothing else will be done.
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3rd January 2021, 22:21 #55
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I never liked making fun of other people's beliefs/faiths. Be it Hindus, Muslims, Christian, Sikhs, it is just not nice to hurt anyone's faith or what they hold sacred.
From some of the news channels (not sure how factual they are) these comedians (there were 5 of them, 2 Hindus among them) were making sexual jokes on Hindu goddesses. I don't know if they were funny or the context for those jokes, but knowing the culture of India, why do you have to make such jokes? Indian law clearly says you shouldn't mock any religion or religious figure (not necessarily Hinduism but ALL religions) so the comedians knew what they were getting into. Sense of humour and Freedom of expression doesn't mean you go around abusing religion (especially when there is a constitutional law about it).
However that radical Hindu organisation had no business in thrashing the comedians, and all those goons should also be put in jail for taking law into their own hands.
All those who are saying take it easy on the religion in India should understand the complexity of the situation a little better; just this week 3 temples in South India have been vandalised, with the deities beheaded/defaced/destroyed. Religion is a sensitive topic in India and any public figure needs to tread this carefully.
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3rd January 2021, 22:21 #56
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3rd January 2021, 22:21 #57
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3rd January 2021, 22:25 #60
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3rd January 2021, 22:32 #62
Megan Fox jokingly said to Micheal Bay (director of Transformers) -
"He’s like Napoleon and he wants to create this insane, infamous mad-man reputation,” Fox said. “He wants to be like Hitler on his sets, and he is. So he’s a nightmare to work for but when you get him away from set, and he’s not in director mode, I kind of really enjoy his personality because he’s so awkward, so hopelessly awkward. He has no social skills at all. And it’s endearing to watch him.”
Her career was over.
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3rd January 2021, 22:34 #64
Take a chill pill
In my head it makes perfect sense
It was funny because Hindutavas lynch people, probably it's a great indian past time just like baseball is for Americans
They take all of the families to hunt and lynch Muslims for a nice day out with thier families
So it makes perfect sense when Hindutavas are having a bad day they go lynching
Technics did a great job there (although not saying thomas lynches people of course but it's funny non the less)
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Quickly turning into a Hindu version of Pakistan.
Last edited by BreadPakoda; 3rd January 2021 at 22:37. Reason: Quickly not slowly
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3rd January 2021, 22:44 #67
There is a TV program called Khabarnak/Khabaryar in Pakistan where a dozen of comedians and the host impersonate and laugh at politicians, opposition parties, police, army, mullahs, foreign celebs etc etc. That includes IK or Zardari or Shareefs etc.
I highly doubt anyone of them will be arrested or beaten in the street by thugs. As a matter of fact they are hilarious and got a solid fan base.
Disclaimer: you will laugh, learn and see what real journalism looks like.
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3rd January 2021, 22:51 #69
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Speaking of unity, Your post may troll a few, offend a few, amuse a few and a lot may ignore it as well but one thing though it may unify their thought in their head, “Dude are you a...”The politically correct word for it is mentally challenged” ,regardless of what they feel.
Any way sincere advise: not every random thought should be posted online
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3rd January 2021, 23:16 #76
So much for secular India...
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3rd January 2021, 23:18 #77
I was not one of them, and always denounced anything that mocked religion. Just because some of these indians are hypocrites, doesn't make it right for anyone to mock my religion, which includes people like me who do not mock any other religion, nor support such acts.
Although this guy is a muslim, so I can tolerate him, as he is from different civilization and understandable when a muslim mocks my deities. It is those hindus who laugh and clap at such insults I have zero tolerance for.
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3rd January 2021, 23:35 #78
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Mocking anyones religion never ends well. As a Muslim I believe that mocking anyones profound beliefs is wrong. This guy should have been more sensible and we would have avoided the trouble. Maybe the same Hindutuva groups can realise that it cuts both ways and no doubt they will thrash the guys that abuse Islam in India, or is hypocrisy the order of the day.
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I haven’t watched the routine so I don’t know what he said exactly but why the need to attack someone’s religion? What do people hope to achieve by doing that?
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