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    Abdul Razzaq can be the next coach of Pakistan

    This coach is going to get KP their 3rd title among all the formats. Don't tell me that. that was a fluke or Abdul Razzak was just too lucky. I believe he is honest passionate and has true love for Pakistan cricket. He was served with injustice and his career was cut short by few years in later part of his career . He understands the dirty politics and can identify with those cricketers who got subjected to it.

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    His statements never gave me the vibe that he's a good judge of talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forward Defensive Push View Post
    His statements never gave me the vibe that he's a good judge of talent.
    He doesn’t need to be. He has M Wasim to do that. Razzaq needs to be a good developer of talent. We haven’t seen that at KPK yet, we’ve only seen Razzaq’s man management skills.

    So I will wait one more season and see how Waseem Jr, Arshad Iqbal, Mohammad Haris, and Sameen Gul develop.

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    That serial whiner will be the first one to throw his players under the bus the moment anything goes wrong.

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    It will be a disaster if it ever happens which it won’t.

    He is the most bitter, miserable person I have ever come across in my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syedahsan View Post
    This coach is going to get KP their 3rd title among all the formats. Don't tell me that. that was a fluke or Abdul Razzak was just too lucky. I believe he is honest passionate and has true love for Pakistan cricket. He was served with injustice and his career was cut short by few years in later part of his career . He understands the dirty politics and can identify with those cricketers who got subjected to it.
    Cut short He played for years too long to be honest He played 40 tests too without adequate performance

    Its bizarre how someone supposedly at 23 can start losing pace like he did

    Some of his bizarre antics during his career such as spinach gate, blocking mcgrath out in a test or his odd statements on pandey, shezad and IPl point to the opposite of what your saying


    If pakistan cricket is to move forward they need to stop going back

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    I am going long on chilli trade if that's going to be the case

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    Well his KPK team this season:

    Winners of the National T20 Cup
    Joint winners of the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy
    Winners of the Pakistan Cup



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    As I have argued most coaches make no difference, its the guys that spot the talent that are more important. I can't imagine AR doing much technical stuff, is he any good at strategy? But we know he has an eye for talent. More suited to the U19s

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    Razzaq should be the T20 coach for Pakistani, he'd do much better than the current head coach. I've always liked Razzaq as a player, he stayed out of controversies throughout his career while most of his team mates were involved in one thing or the other. Only on PP do you hear Razzaq being a whiner, but I've followed his career pretty closely and for me he was the most honest/hard working player throughout (minus his fielding abilities). He'd definitely make a good T20 coach, get him in!

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    May be presence of a laidback superstar amid them has motivated KP to perform like this.

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    Atleast he has something on is CV to show unlike the local appointments we have been making for last decade or so. I personally think PCB should make it clear to the local ex players who are expecting to win a lottery that regional coaching will be must for consideration unless someone has international coaching experience. Process and criteria should always take the precedence.

    Head coaching appointments made by Aus, NZ, Eng have all been through their domestic system. You wont see Michael Clarke or Alastair Cook becoming head coach without anything to show in the coaching department.

    So credit to Abdul Razzaq for taking a proper route to prove himself rather than sitting on different shows and bashing everyone in the hope to get a glance from lady luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaddy86 View Post
    Razzaq should be the T20 coach for Pakistani, he'd do much better than the current head coach. I've always liked Razzaq as a player, he stayed out of controversies throughout his career while most of his team mates were involved in one thing or the other. Only on PP do you hear Razzaq being a whiner, but I've followed his career pretty closely and for me he was the most honest/hard working player throughout (minus his fielding abilities). He'd definitely make a good T20 coach, get him in!
    He wasn't hard working. If he was, he would improved his bowling, he reached his peak by 2000 as a bowler and then declined. He couldn't move the ball because of a poor seam, which he did nothing about.I dont think he ever realised that he has such a poor seam.

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    Why do we have to hype up someone after one game or season? Let people perform consistently for a few seasons before judging.

    M Wasim for example has been doing very welll in the coaching department since his PTV days and then two seasons with Northern. So its understandable if people refer to Wasim as the next Pak coach or something.

    Let Razzaq at the least perform another season. Consistency is key to success.


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    @Markhor you follow the new set up closely, is this bloke a genuine option for the future?

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    Well he backs that wasim junior who is a 25yr old + guy who is masquerading as a teenager.


    Saw that wasim junior bowling today and if I'm honest he is a club level trundler average at best I don't even know what all the hype and howling is about with this guy hardly a Ben stokes .

    That other midget youngster muhammad imran also looks nothing special, and is proper short height wise most grassroot teams would discourage people that short from pursuing a career as a fast bowler because they would be no good.

    If these 2 kpk bowlers played against a top intl team they would be taken to the cleaners at 10 rrpo .

    Imran khan snr ex test player is a good enough bowler, but is yesterdays news , at the latter end of his career a domestic workhorse a poorer shorter less athletic version of umar gul , good experienced domestic stalwart.

    Anyway I would take these domestic performances and future hyped potentials for Pakistan with a huge handful of salt .

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    Shame he couldn't coach himself to become anything more than a trundler and mindless slogger despite all the potential he had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazkhan View Post
    Well he backs that wasim junior who is a 25yr old + guy who is masquerading as a teenager.


    Saw that wasim junior bowling today and if I'm honest he is a club level trundler average at best I don't even know what all the hype and howling is about with this guy hardly a Ben stokes .

    That other midget youngster muhammad imran also looks nothing special, and is proper short height wise most grassroot teams would discourage people that short from pursuing a career as a fast bowler because they would be no good.

    If these 2 kpk bowlers played against a top intl team they would be taken to the cleaners at 10 rrpo .

    Imran khan snr ex test player is a good enough bowler, but is yesterdays news , at the latter end of his career a domestic workhorse a poorer shorter less athletic version of umar gul , good experienced domestic stalwart.

    Anyway I would take these domestic performances and future hyped potentials for Pakistan with a huge handful of salt .
    M Wasim Junior is a good hitter though. A good base and a fast bat speed. Has a lot of T20 potential.

    His bowling might not be that special indeed. Probably like Anwar Ali he'll become a T20 specialist because of his batting.

    But then again it's too early and needs to perform and show more in domestic cricket for us to judge him properly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Well his KPK team this season:

    Winners of the National T20 Cup
    Joint winners of the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy
    Winners of the Pakistan Cup
    Not sure about Razzak but clearly KPK has been the best team which means players from there should be looked at for narional team

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitthestump View Post
    Shame he couldn't coach himself to become anything more than a trundler and mindless slogger despite all the potential he had.
    Good point.

    Yousuf and Razzaq were the laziest around who hated all the fitness requirements. Yet these seem to be helping players on the technical front the most.

    Yousuf has been vital in Faheem's progress.

    Cricket can be a strange game.


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    What are his qualifications?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    @Markhor you follow the new set up closely, is this bloke a genuine option for the future?
    I was wary of his appointment at first because Razzaq as a player was lazy and didn't maximise his abilities. Plus he's made some insane comments as a pundit. However Popeye's done a decent job with KPK. Winning a domestic treble without their gun centrally contracted players Rizwan and Shaheen is impressive.

    He's also rotated the squad well. Youngsters like Irfanullah Shah, Arshad Iqbal, Mohammad Haris and a few others were given proper runs. Kamran Ghulam had a record breaking FC season on his watch.

    They do rely a fair bit on their oldies like Iftikhar Ahmed, Asif Afridi, Musadiq Ahmed and Khalid Usman, and all look old enough to be a grandpa, although if they keep performing then you can't complain.

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    Oh no no no.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omer2002 View Post
    Not sure about Razzak but clearly KPK has been the best team which means players from there should be looked at for narional team
    It's about experience ... A certain Babar Azam would have changed the winners name.....also Abdullah Shafique....poor guy robbed if his first class experience and now dropped.....

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    Yousuf Inzy may be lazy but they have certain experience and expertise....Razzler would be king had he was born post 1990s....or 1995s.... He may be lazy but effective as player.... As a coach i have not sure it is good one

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    No for God sake,

    There are better options available , why not Yasir Arafat.

    I also like Umar Gul a lot, as player and as a person, should be involved in coaching youngsters and also fast bowling coaching for senior team in future.

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    If he is coach definitely Ahmed shehzad will come back in pak team.

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    It's 2021 and there are people here talking about him playing abit too long as a player.

    Sure he was a great player.
    Sure he struggled towards the end of is career (Who doesn't).

    None of that has any bearing on is coaching skills.

    Some of the best Football or Cricket coaches were mediocre or poor players. There is little correlation.

    If he has a proven track record, he should always be an option. Nobody should be blindly ruled out.

    That said, I don't think he is ready. I'd rather Pakistan went for an experienced Intl. Coach or someone with a long proven track record in the domestic scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dravidthewall View Post
    If he is coach definitely Ahmed shehzad will come back in pak team.
    Why not , a player with more talent than Tendulkar and Kohli, can;t be ignored for long

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    If he is made the coach , he will pose a big challenge to Waqar as the worst coach for Pakistan ever

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    Like players being rushed, coaches should not be rushed either.

    Let's see what he does over a few seasons and how he develops as a coach.

    I'm not even sure if he has any qualifications either, perhaps a level 2 ECB when he was playing club cricket.



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    People should take M Wasim as an example: first coached PTV then a few seasons with Northern.

    He proved himself before getting promoted.

    That's the proper way of doing it in an organization.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Like players being rushed, coaches should not be rushed either.

    Let's see what he does over a few seasons and how he develops as a coach.
    Totally. A good start to his coaching career, needs to continue it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince of Pakistan View Post
    People should take M Wasim as an example: first coached PTV then a few seasons with Northern.

    He proved himself before getting promoted.

    That's the proper way of doing it in an organization.
    Definitely, a good precedent set by M Wasim by achieving the promotion and success in the right way and is one of the only few calls by PCB in the last decade or so on merit. Need more such decisions where people are promoted from the system and with a proven track record rather than appointing random people out of nowhere because of their names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    I was wary of his appointment at first because Razzaq as a player was lazy and didn't maximise his abilities. Plus he's made some insane comments as a pundit. However Popeye's done a decent job with KPK. Winning a domestic treble without their gun centrally contracted players Rizwan and Shaheen is impressive.

    He's also rotated the squad well. Youngsters like Irfanullah Shah, Arshad Iqbal, Mohammad Haris and a few others were given proper runs. Kamran Ghulam had a record breaking FC season on his watch.

    They do rely a fair bit on their oldies like Iftikhar Ahmed, Asif Afridi, Musadiq Ahmed and Khalid Usman, and all look old enough to be a grandpa, although if they keep performing then you can't complain.
    However KPK has Been doing well domestically for a good half a decade anyway so perhaps it’s a case of Razzaq coming in an already built ship

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    If there is anyone that deserves credit for KPK performances is Abdul Rehman. He build this team not Razzaq.


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