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14th January 2021, 16:17 #1
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Test series records of Asian teams in SENA in last 10 years
So I was looking at Asian teams records in SENA in last 10 years (since 2011)
As it turns out Sri Lanka has the most number of series wins in SENA in this period. Records are as follows.
Sri Lanka
Series Played 12
Series Won 2
Series Drawn 0
Series Lost 10
India
Series Played 10
Series Won 1
Series Drawn 0
Series Lost 9
Pakistan
Series Played 10
Series Won 1
Series Drawn 2
Series Lost 7
So Sri Lanka has the most number of series wins but they have the most number of losses as well.
Pakistan have the least number of series losses.
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14th January 2021, 16:31 #2
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India had the potential to do much better especially considering that in the last 2-3 years the team has had their greatest fast bowling attack ever by far, but thanks to the brainless leadership cohort of Kohli and Shastri, they've squandered the opportunity to truly make it India's golden generation.
Already under a level headed competent individual like Rahane, you see Team India doing far better overseas despite losing half the team to injuries.
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14th January 2021, 16:39 #3
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Lol fer, shocking record by the so called Indian dominance
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14th January 2021, 16:41 #4
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14th January 2021, 16:41 #5
India became the first Asian team to win a test series in Australia in 2019. After their series in Australia the last thing left unachieved is a test series win in South Africa.
Sri Lanka became the first Asian team to win a test series in South Africa in 2019 and won in England in 2014.
Pakistan won in NZ in 2011 and drew in England in both 2016 and 2018.
Even though Pakistan was the only Asian team to win a series in NZ in the last decade I would swap that for a historical series win in Australia or South Africa since those are the last 2 things Pakistan is left to achieve in cricket.
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14th January 2021, 16:43 #6
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14th January 2021, 16:53 #7
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14th January 2021, 16:56 #8
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Think I (and others) have mentioned this to OP many times but he does not seems to understand.
Series wins does not give an accurate picture because no. of matches in every series varies. For example, SL won the 2 match test series in Eng (1-0). India toured next and was exactly 1-0 after 2 tests but lost last 3 games and lost the series.
We need to consider how many matches being played and the win %
Matches in SENA in last 10 years:
India
Total matches - 38
Win - 6
Loss - 25
Draw - 7
Win% - 0.24
Pakistan
Total matches - 25
Win - 3
Loss - 19
Draw - 3
Win% - 0.15
Srilanka
Total matches - 29
Win - 4
Loss - 20
Draw - 5
Win% - 0.2
India has been easily the best test team whether its at home or SENA.
We can twist the stats anyway we want but it wont change the reality unfortunately.
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14th January 2021, 17:00 #9
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India had drawn a test series (1-1) in SAF in Jan 2011. It has not been included in the stats by OP.
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14th January 2021, 17:07 #10
This analysis makes much more sense. Thanks for sharing.
Clearly India is ahead but they've also played more games (38 vs 25 by PAK and 29 by SL). If Pak had played 10 more games and won in 2, they would have been ahead of India in the win% analysis.
Yet Pak are ranked way down below India in the ICC rankings.
Advantage India then, but only just.
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14th January 2021, 17:09 #11
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14th January 2021, 17:12 #12
That series ended on 6 Jan 2011 so technically it doesn't count within the last 10 years.
Pakistan won in NZ starting on 7 Jan 2011 even though the series ended on 19 Jan 2011 so the series counts within the last 10 years at least for the next 5 days but the match technically doesn't count within the last 10 years if you go on statsguru.
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14th January 2021, 17:13 #13
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14th January 2021, 17:13 #14
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14th January 2021, 17:15 #15
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It could have gone other way too. If Pakistan played more games...they could have lost more as well, correct no? So these ifs and buts makes little sense as we have to go by what we have.
As I said many times before, no manupulation of stats or data can convince me that India is not the best test team from asia. LolLast edited by Rajdeep; 14th January 2021 at 17:17.
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14th January 2021, 17:17 #16
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I think that the leadership wasn't the main issue, it was also the fact that the top order was always shifting here and there until recently, and even recently, the openers are not consistent. The bowling overseas has always been good but it's the top order, specifically the openers, which have let India down over the last few years.
Rahane's leadership is not the sole cause of India's victories overseas, it's also because of the fact that India is playing very smart cricket. They've adapted well to the conditions, and most people underestimate the value of being able to adapt to conditions outside Asia. When Pakistan went to England and played however many practice matches, we adapted and were able to challenge England in the first match which we should have won.
It also has to do with the fact that most of the players on the team who have performed well this series have been to Australia a few times, and so they know what to expect in the batting. The bowling has been impressive, given that this is the first time the likes of Saini, Siraj have played in foreign conditions.
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14th January 2021, 17:18 #17
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14th January 2021, 17:25 #18
We still has so much to achieve in SENA.
Our series record over a period of 10 years is no doubt atrocious for a top team.
Dhoni messed up big time from 2011-2015 through his ultra cautious approach.
Kohli did relatively better and also groomed a battery of fast bowlers and started winning overseas test more regularly. Still, Kohli/Shahstri made glaring mistakes which costs atleast 3 overseas win.
BUT the future looks good for start of new decade. We are sure we will fix this record in 2021-2025 cycle to start with.
Few more points:
1) We played NZ ( twice in 10 year) and SA ( twice in 10 years) for a 2/3 match series. Too little for me. Our best also come in 2010/11 ( not included in OP data) where we won 1-0 against NZ and drew 1-1 vs SA.
2) We played 4 /5 match series against Aus/Eng thrice in 10 years. Good amount of cricket but too much for me. A 3 match overseas series for India makes much more sense.
vs NZ
lost 0-1 (2) 2013/14
lost 2-0 (2) 2019/20
vs SA
lost 0-1 (2) 2013/14
lost 1-2 (3) 2017/18
vs Eng
lost 0-4(4) 2011
lost 1-3(5) 2014
lost 1-4(5) 2018
vs Aus
lost 0-4(4) 2011/12
lost 0-2(4) 2014/15
won 2-1(4) 2018/19
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14th January 2021, 17:33 #19
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14th January 2021, 17:41 #20
Pakistan first needs to regain the ability to take 20 wickets in SENA. Pakistan was unable to win the first test against England last year for the same reason.
Pakistani batsmen have always struggled playing bounce in these condtions but since the 3rd test against South Africa in 2019 we've been unable to take 20 wickets in SENA. That also happens to be Amir's last test for Pakistan as well as Sarfaraz's last test as captain. Maybe not just a coincidence.
You never know Pakistan may just win their next series in South Africa and Australia if the stars align like they did for Sri Lanka in South Africa in 2019 or for Pakistan in the Champions Trophy. But that's wishful thinking.
We need seasoned pacers suited to these conditions we can't just pick kids like Naseem and Musa and expect them to work a miracle. Shaheen and Hasan once he's back are the only bowlers who fit the mould at the moment.
The batting needs one more batsmen to accompany Babar and Rizwan who can play bounce with positive intent without being reckless. Currently we manage to always play around 90-100 overs but only make 200-250 runs because we don't utilise the 30-80th over period against the kookaburra.
If Babar can start scoring big hundreds and Shaheen can start getting regular fifers we can pull off an upset if we manage to hold onto our catches. Hoping for the best but not expecting too much in the not so distant future
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14th January 2021, 17:44 #21
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14th January 2021, 17:49 #22
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14th January 2021, 17:58 #23
Pakistan's win came against a joke of a NZ side...
India's win was against an Aussie team with a joke of a batting lineup.
Sri Lanka's win in England was breathtaking (both games went to the wire) but nothing too special as it waa 2 game rubber....but their win in South Africa was an astonishing feat.
Series wins in order of merit...
1. Sri Lanka's win in South Africa 2019
2. India's win in Australia 2019
3. Sri Lanka's win in England 2014.
4. Pakistan's win in New Zealand 2011.
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14th January 2021, 18:02 #24
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14th January 2021, 18:03 #25
If you take from 1 Jan 2010, then its not advantage India at all.
Since 1 Jan 2010
India
Matches played 41
Matches Won 7
Matches drawn 8
Matches lost 26
Win Percentage 17.07 %
Pakistan
Matches played 34
Matches Won 6
Matches drawn 3
Matches lost 25
Win percentage 17.6 %
So Pakistan is slightly ahead if you take from 1 Jan 2010. Below is the link.
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...ults;type=team
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14th January 2021, 18:06 #26
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14th January 2021, 18:36 #27
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14th January 2021, 19:51 #28
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14th January 2021, 19:53 #29
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14th January 2021, 20:01 #30
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14th January 2021, 20:05 #31
They took advantage of a transitioning Aussie team in a short 2 match series so credit to them but they were still a mediocre Test side back then. Williamson and Southee were far far away from their peak and Vettori was an average Test spinner at best. Chris Martin lol...
They were clean swept at home against the same Aussie team the previous year and almost lost a test to Zimbabwe defending 350+ in the 4th innings. They started becoming a formidable Test unit only when Bazz took over in 2014.
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14th January 2021, 20:07 #32
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14th January 2021, 20:17 #33
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14th January 2021, 23:09 #34
Pakistan fans will do anything to defend our rubbish record in SENA.
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14th January 2021, 23:34 #35
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15th January 2021, 00:40 #36
2011-14 was a dark era for Indian test cricket with Dhoni/CSK mafia running the show. 0-8 humiliation, more losses in Eng, SA, NZ, Aus.
Kohli era has been way better but still we have underachieved.
1-4 in Eng
0-2 in NZ
1-2 in SA
3-2 in Aus
This year is a great opportunity for our team to correct the record in SA and Eng.
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15th January 2021, 00:58 #37
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15th January 2021, 09:54 #38
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15th January 2021, 18:13 #39