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15th January 2021, 08:03 #1
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India B vs Australia A in the final Test of the series
Virat Kohli, Shhikhar Dhawan, Ishant Sharma, Umesh, Shami, Bumrah, Saha
These are some of the names which are missing from Indian side vs Australia and yet they are focussed and playing their best cricket
And here, our evergreen kaptaan (& head coach) has listed out all the excuses he could find :
1) COVID
2) Seniors players were injured (Babar was important, but suddenly Imam was injured too) And Misbah had around 100 players to chose from
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15th January 2021, 08:09 #2
Dhawan and Saha are not missing, lol.
Ashwin and Jadeja are missing alongside Kohli, Bumrah, Ishant and Shami. So, 6 names.
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15th January 2021, 08:18 #3
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15th January 2021, 08:20 #4
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15th January 2021, 08:36 #5
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15th January 2021, 08:38 #6
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15th January 2021, 08:49 #7
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15th January 2021, 08:50 #8
In Bowling, Its India C.
Bumrah, Shami, Ishant, Umesh, Bhuvi, Ashiwn, Jadeja- all missing.
In Batting, Its India B.
Kohli, Rahul. Vihari- all missing.
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15th January 2021, 09:11 #9
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Australia struggling against India's 4th string attack. Imagine if they had a fit Ishant, Shami and Bumrah with Jadeja and Ashwin.
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15th January 2021, 09:17 #10
Lmao how is it 4th string?
Do you even know what that means. Bhuvi hasn’t played a test in 3+ years. He is not first choice and even otherwise not good for these conditions. At some point you gotta start excluding him from ‘missing players’ list with how long he’s not played.
India first choice: Ishant, Shami, Bumrah, Ashwin, Jadeja
India second string: Umesh, Siraj, Thakur, Natarajan, Sundar/Kuldeep
This is second string minus Umesh imo
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15th January 2021, 09:36 #11
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15th January 2021, 09:44 #12
lol no that is not how it works.
for eg in League (carabao) cup when a top team plays all kids and reserves it is called second string XI. to be called second string you need first choice not playing which is what is happening here.
regardless the point is that it is a very weakened india attack and is doing well.
#MPGA
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15th January 2021, 09:45 #13
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15th January 2021, 09:48 #14
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15th January 2021, 09:58 #15
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Bumrah ishant shami ashwin jadeja- ist choice
Umesh & bhuvi are backup .
We are playing t20 bowler in test due to quarantine .
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15th January 2021, 10:23 #16
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15th January 2021, 14:00 #17
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4 bowlers - Siraj, Saini, Natarajan, and Sundar - debuting in the same series. Is this a first? Not counting the instances where a team first played test cricket, like South Africa post ban.
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15th January 2021, 14:03 #18
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That's the big question if they can. Still, the fact that this bunch didn't allow Australia to completely shut India from the game already is worth a thumbs up. Many illustrious pacers from past and present (Broad and Anderson) have gone to Australia and returned humbled.
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15th January 2021, 14:04 #19
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15th January 2021, 14:31 #20
It's in fact India B, C, D or whatever you want and it's quite poor to be frank. Maybe Siraj can be an okaish bowler but other three have no future in test cricket.
And India have only themselves to blame for being the unfittest team ever in a series.
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15th January 2021, 14:56 #21
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15th January 2021, 14:59 #22
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Boldly dismissive of India. Here's a reality check for you. Neither Natarajan nor Sundar were among India's test probables. They were with the test squad purely as net bowlers after featuring in the T20 leg of the tour. Covid and quarantine quirks at work.
Even so, Sundar has acquitted himself far better than your veteran Yasir in Brisbane. Likewise, Natarajan has bowled as well as Shaheen did at the same venue a year ago. I wouldn't even go into how your test debutant fared in that series.
My considered advice would be to resist being so quick to pronounce judgment on their test future.
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15th January 2021, 15:04 #23
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How on earth is this an Aus A team? Just cuz Warner is out of form ?
This is a full strength aussie team.
This is an India Z bowling attack. Who have done quite well I might add.
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15th January 2021, 15:08 #24
Australia A? How? Matlab kuch bhi....
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15th January 2021, 15:13 #25
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15th January 2021, 15:17 #26
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This india team is not even B its "D" lol
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15th January 2021, 15:24 #27
With a bigger population and player base than the rest of the cricket world combined. India should be better placed to deal with player injuries.
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15th January 2021, 15:38 #28
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We're seeing some real decline in Australian performances at home in the past few games. This is a completely unknown Indian attack yet they can't take advantage of them.
Fatigue seeping in perhaps?
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15th January 2021, 15:43 #29
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Australia A is playing India C.
Pakistanis can try to spin it around any way they like. This has been a very very courageous India team, playing against the odds and punching above their collective weight.
Dont' remember Pakistan putting up these performances with their A+teams
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15th January 2021, 15:53 #30
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Lol its clearly India C team.
The pecking order over last 4 years is:
First choice
1. Bumrah
2. Ashwin
3. Ishant
4. Shami
B team
5. Yadav
6. Jadeja
7. Pandya
8. Bhuvi
C team
9. Siraj
10. Saini
11. Kuldeep
12. Shardul
D, E, F...
G team (Nets)
20.Natarajan
21. Sundar
Basically a C grade bowling attack further diluted by presence of 2 net bowlers.
Still they have done a great job on Day 1.
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15th January 2021, 15:54 #31
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15th January 2021, 15:56 #32
Your opinion is wrong.
Bhuvi hasnt played because the first choice hasnt given him a chance or he is injured.
Thakur and Natarajan and Sundar were nowhere close to the test team. They are playing because all the first string of bumrah shami Ishant are injured. injured. Back up of Yadav and Bhuvi are injured. Back up of back up Siraj and Saini are playing. Thakur and Nattu were net bowlers and not even part of the squad.
On AR front, Pandya is first choice but since he isnt bowling yet Jadeja was picked as back up. Now that he is injured we have to play a net bowler Sundar.
So except Siraj and Saini, neither of the bowlers are back up bowlers even.
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15th January 2021, 16:08 #33
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Lol.
Is Australia at advantage? Yes
Is it Australia’s fault? No
India, please fight it out, we are proud of you.
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15th January 2021, 20:47 #34
I think you have some problems with Pakistan and Pakistan cricket. Why do you have to bring them in this thread that has nothing to do with them?
The thread is about Indian tour of Australia, and I think this bowling attack is very very poor.
Second point I made : Indian team fitness has been the worst ever by a touring team. They really need to do something about it.
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15th January 2021, 22:26 #35
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15th January 2021, 22:43 #36
India C and Australia A? These are full strength Indian and Australian teams. I mean this is what most of the Indian fans told me when we won 2018 series in Australia. Why are these same people reminding everyone that we are missing players lol? Please be consistent and don't look like a hypocrite now. Only I and those who agreed that we won against Aus B, C team last time have the right to say that this is India C vs Aus A. And this is indeed India B against Aus.
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15th January 2021, 22:46 #37
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15th January 2021, 23:16 #38
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India have shown alot of character. Despite being bundled out for 36, despite missing the best batsman in the world and despite having third string bowling they have taken the attack to the opposition and that too in their backyard. In contrast Pakistan in NZ ......
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16th January 2021, 00:52 #39
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We need to remember that due to quarantine rules we are not able to even send our main replacement players for tests to Australia
We are playing with T20 specialists in tests when we could have sent Pandya and Jayant Yadav.. even Ishant is fit now and playing Syed Mushtaq Ali series but cannot go to Australia due to quarantine
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16th January 2021, 02:03 #40
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16th January 2021, 03:14 #41
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16th January 2021, 03:18 #42
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16th January 2021, 04:09 #43
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This India XI this created chances in the field, so kudos to them. Rahane could rue that drop, Oz then looking at a sub 300 score...
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16th January 2021, 08:10 #44
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16th January 2021, 09:07 #45
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A huge shame that the last two series between these teams have been marred by absence
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16th January 2021, 09:16 #46
Whose fault is it that india A/B is playing? If they wilt like petunias they deserve every bit of it. An athletic and fit team vs a decrepit and sorry bunch. No grace marks for your own weakness.
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16th January 2021, 09:38 #47
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I wonder where were these lines when india played them on tour. Wasn't it Aussies fault that they were two players less in Smith and warner. But I think you are correct. They need to keep their fitness intact. But this never happened before, seems like quarentine does take a toll.
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16th January 2021, 09:45 #48
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16th January 2021, 11:37 #49
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16th January 2021, 11:43 #50
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16th January 2021, 21:40 #51
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Top 7 bowlers are missing: Bumrah, Ishant, Shami, Umesh, Bhuvi, Ashwin and Jadeja. Any of these bowlers if available would have played instead of Saini, Thakur and Natarajan.
Add Pandya instead of Washington.
So a total of 9 players (8 + Kohli) are not available. Generally you can a team B if 2 or 3 top players are missing. This is India's D or E team, not India B.Last edited by Napa; 16th January 2021 at 21:42.
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16th January 2021, 21:43 #52
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16th January 2021, 21:48 #53
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16th January 2021, 21:52 #54
Huge difference
1. Smith and Warner weren't out injured.They were out because they were caught cheating.CA handed them bans and thus chose to not select them.
2. India is playing away.Aus played at home
3. India eventually had far more injuries.
Still no one is using injuries as an excuse or 'asterisk'.We just a proud of our team for fighting.If Aus win here,kudos to them.Not their fault that our guys are injured
The only disability in life is a bad attitude. -Scott Hamilton
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16th January 2021, 21:59 #55
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16th January 2021, 22:08 #56
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I will try to explain slowly as there seems to be a potential problem here: getting injured is not a “mistake” unless some of these players took a skateboard and jumped over traffic.
The fact is the replacements have come in some of them not even in the scheme of test cricket and have still delivered to keep India alive in this series.
That’s what people are appreciating. I am not sure why you are so confused about.
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16th January 2021, 22:12 #57
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16th January 2021, 22:13 #58
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16th January 2021, 22:14 #59
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How can the absences of Aussie players in 2018 be equated to the absences of Indian players?
Firstly, Australia just lost 2 batsman but still had their bowling attack intact which is considered the best in the world. Whereas India is missing its 1st and 2nd string bowlers totalling 6. The current ones include 2 net bowlers. Additionally it is missing 2 1st choice batsman in Kohli and Vihari and a backup batsman in KL. The grand total being 9 which is just less than 2 to form a whole team. So calling this Indian team a full strength team is nothing but a joke.
Secondly and most importantly in both these tours India is the visiting team while Australia is the home team with their players born on these pitches. So even if it was a B team in 2018-19 aussies were supposed to win it then and DEFINITELY now. During the 2017 tour to India Kohli missed a test due to injury but we still won that match. If this India C team is still putting up a fight then we need to give credit where its due instead of making unreasonable comparisons with an Aussie team that couldn't win at home.
Someone please tell me how this is a India B team with 9 players missing and Australia A team with no 1st choice players missing? Just because they are not winning 4-0 doesn't make it a A team.
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16th January 2021, 22:21 #60
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16th January 2021, 22:22 #61
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16th January 2021, 22:28 #62
You should ask these interesting questions from those fans who called Aus team in 2018 a full strength team. Take help from @Napa he can explain you the logic behind these statements.
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16th January 2021, 22:31 #63
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Oh he should have given up millions etc is something only a person with not too many financial prospects would say.
Anyway I am sure you skipped above where people explained where most injuries happened on field be it Jadeja,Shami or Pant.
How many IPl matches Umesh played?
Is Virat injured?
Rohit injury debate started even before the IPL and it wouldn’t have made a difference.
Ishant,Bhuvi were injured while hardly playing any games.
Once again surprised you haven’t thought through all that? Do you even follow cricket news outside of PP?
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16th January 2021, 22:54 #64
You keep asking dumb questions without even reading replies from others I mean I have already explained and put you in place multiple times here regarding IPL yet you keep coming back to get embarrassed again and again. Let me say it once again if a player is imporant and his absence can affect the outcome of the series BCCI should give him enough rest from IPL and compensate him. The richest cricket board can afford to do that.
Players getting injured while playing top level cricket is nothing new but getting injured in a useless IPL should be avoided. Who will remember Umesh getting injured in a CSK vs Mumbai match but you can expect everyone to remember that he got injured during Aus test series. And who even blamed IPL for Virat taking a baby break? Use your brain for once.
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17th January 2021, 02:17 #65
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Amazed to see India D attack putting pressure on aussies and keeping the series alive. These aussie batsmen are so strong at home that they routinely humiliate some of the asian teams.
At an overall level, these are 2 great test sides going at each other in a cracking series. It would be great to have more of such series and just have ipl the remaining time of the year ala epl. High class test cricket followed by high class limited overs cricket. Great fun.
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19th January 2021, 15:16 #66
The kids did it.