Sohail Speaks Yasir's Blog Fazeer's Focus

User Tag List

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 81 to 141 of 141
  1. #81
    Debut
    Jan 2011
    Runs
    4,475
    Mentioned
    41 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Faheem has lost some pace in his bowling which is a pity as he is coming into his own as a test batter and generally hits pretty good areas as a bowler.
    Ammad is the more impressive bowler at this stage. Faheem needs to regain the bite and hell be a force.

  2. #82
    Debut
    Nov 2005
    Venue
    England
    Runs
    21,773
    Mentioned
    557 Post(s)
    Tagged
    5 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacy with wisdom View Post
    I have told you the reason. His action needs work.
    Plus, he doesn't have a dexterous wrist like Asif or a Walsh to just rely on that to generate movement of the pitch.
    He is becoming a terrible bowler, he doesn't threaten any batsman. Something as simple as holding the ball for outswinger will help him to move the ball back in off the seam. The guy seems dumb as a rock.

  3. #83
    Debut
    Aug 2020
    Runs
    1,162
    Mentioned
    49 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    He is becoming a terrible bowler, he doesn't threaten any batsman. Something as simple as holding the ball for outswinger will help him to move the ball back in off the seam. The guy seems dumb as a rock.
    It isn't that simple.
    You need to have a strong base and a good non bowling arm for it to be that simple. He doesn't have these.
    This is the problem with all our bowlers. They are technically very weak, and dont know how their actions work.
    Our coaches are terrible.

  4. #84
    Debut
    Jul 2016
    Venue
    New Jersey, USA
    Runs
    5,800
    Mentioned
    75 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by shah_1 View Post
    He will not be dropped after his batting performances in last 3 matches
    Yes, not in Pakistan where selectors are so insecure, in any other country an all rounder with such a poor bowling performance would have been axed.

  5. #85
    Debut
    Feb 2019
    Runs
    8,295
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    Cannot take wickets in Asian condition, cannot take wickets in SENA, where does he takes wickets ?
    *Odd wicket

  6. #86
    Debut
    Jun 2015
    Runs
    2,480
    Mentioned
    29 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    Yes, not in Pakistan where selectors are so insecure, in any other country an all rounder with such a poor bowling performance would have been axed.
    If not for him.....Pak would have collapsed .......credit to him Fawad and Azhar for that....also Yasir for the 160 odd lead.......give credit where it is due......when ur premier bowlers Abbas Saheen Hasan don't take wickets .......don't expect him to do miracle.....it is only in Pakistan that fans want to drop players after performing.......who who will replace him..???

  7. #87
    Debut
    Oct 2004
    Runs
    147,723
    Mentioned
    2749 Post(s)
    Tagged
    21 Thread(s)
    Name:  Capture.JPG
Views: 816
Size:  27.6 KB


    For the latest updates on Cricket, follow @PakPassion on Twitter

  8. #88
    Debut
    Jan 2020
    Venue
    NY, Lahore LOVE!!
    Runs
    3,162
    Mentioned
    63 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Even if he makes centeries after centeries guess what some random indian cricketer (or if they're feeling especially generous they'll add some Aussie into the mix) in thier domestics would still be better than him

    Some PPers and thier ultimate wisdom

  9. #89
    Debut
    Aug 2020
    Runs
    1,162
    Mentioned
    49 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The "non-cricketer" in the runs again.
    Last edited by MenInG; 5th February 2021 at 13:04.

  10. #90
    Debut
    Aug 2020
    Runs
    1,162
    Mentioned
    49 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Khan12 View Post
    Babar and Haris are mental midgets.
    Sohaib Maqsood; the new inzi.
    Azhqr ali will be Pakistan's Ian bell in odi's.
    Junaid is as good as 2010 Amir.
    Pakistan will be whitewashed in England for every one of the last 3 away tours.

  11. #91
    Debut
    Oct 2004
    Runs
    147,723
    Mentioned
    2749 Post(s)
    Tagged
    21 Thread(s)
    Name:  Capture.JPG
Views: 790
Size:  60.4 KB


    For the latest updates on Cricket, follow @PakPassion on Twitter

  12. #92
    Debut
    Aug 2011
    Venue
    I live in Canada; My heart lives in Pakistan
    Runs
    37,564
    Mentioned
    3511 Post(s)
    Tagged
    20 Thread(s)
    Identify as an Indian.


    Hai yeh Josh-e-Junoon, hai yeh apna yaqeen, ke jo tum mein hai dum, woh kisi mein nahin!

  13. #93
    Debut
    Aug 2011
    Venue
    I live in Canada; My heart lives in Pakistan
    Runs
    37,564
    Mentioned
    3511 Post(s)
    Tagged
    20 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacy with wisdom View Post
    Sohaib Maqsood; the new inzi.
    Azhqr ali will be Pakistan's Ian bell in odi's.
    Junaid is as good as 2010 Amir.
    Pakistan will be whitewashed in England for every one of the last 3 away tours.
    Let's make the conversation about username, though.

    He knows Pakistan cricket like the back of his hand. Perhaps that hand has always been kept in his pockets.


    Hai yeh Josh-e-Junoon, hai yeh apna yaqeen, ke jo tum mein hai dum, woh kisi mein nahin!

  14. #94
    Debut
    May 2017
    Venue
    Melbourne
    Runs
    674
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    "Gullible fans of a 7th ranked team overhyping a mediocre player"

  15. #95
    Debut
    Apr 2015
    Runs
    5,196
    Mentioned
    115 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacy with wisdom View Post
    Sohaib Maqsood; the new inzi.
    Azhqr ali will be Pakistan's Ian bell in odi's.
    Junaid is as good as 2010 Amir.
    Pakistan will be whitewashed in England for every one of the last 3 away tours.
    And many more. Fluke.

  16. #96
    Debut
    Jan 2020
    Venue
    California, Lahore
    Runs
    8,480
    Mentioned
    1438 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    And takes the wicket of Faf du Plessis

  17. #97
    Debut
    Oct 2004
    Runs
    147,723
    Mentioned
    2749 Post(s)
    Tagged
    21 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    And takes the wicket of Faf du Plessis
    Faheem amazing!



    For the latest updates on Cricket, follow @PakPassion on Twitter

  18. #98
    Debut
    Nov 2017
    Runs
    3,518
    Mentioned
    125 Post(s)
    Tagged
    3 Thread(s)
    At the moment this guy is looking solid with the bat and he was always a good enough 4 th bowler.
    Pulled Pakistan back into this match

  19. #99
    Debut
    Sep 2016
    Runs
    3,255
    Mentioned
    30 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by jeeteshssaxena View Post
    At the moment this guy is looking solid with the bat and he was always a good enough 4 th bowler.
    Pulled Pakistan back into this match
    Yes he was always good enough 4th bowler or 3rd in subcontinent conditions. So far in his career his batting seems to be good enough for 7 player in test cricket too.

  20. #100
    Debut
    Oct 2016
    Runs
    20,608
    Mentioned
    522 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Playing some important knocks lower down the order for a while, got an important wicket as well today. Going in the right direction, hopefully can continue progressing.


  21. #101
    Debut
    Jan 2019
    Venue
    India
    Runs
    3,011
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    On current form he is the most valuable player from Pak right now in test cricket. Took Pak to respected total in NZ, massively contributed to the SA win and again without his heroics today with the tail Pak wouldn't be crossing 200. Honestly he looked ordinary just like an year ago, such massive improvement, wow!!

  22. #102
    Debut
    Jan 2020
    Venue
    California, Lahore
    Runs
    8,480
    Mentioned
    1438 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Highest Test batting average against short balls (>8m) since 2006:

    1. Umar Akmal - 105.00
    2. Adam Voges - 96.66
    3. AB de Villiers - 95.11
    4. Hashim Amla - 88.59
    5. Faheem Ashraf - 87.00

    Interesting stat

  23. #103
    Debut
    Oct 2007
    Venue
    Amsterdam / Faisalabad
    Runs
    12,523
    Mentioned
    87 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    Highest Test batting average against short balls (>8m) since 2006:

    1. Umar Akmal - 105.00
    2. Adam Voges - 96.66
    3. AB de Villiers - 95.11
    4. Hashim Amla - 88.59
    5. Faheem Ashraf - 87.00

    Interesting stat
    Umar Akmal was phenomenal during that tour down under in 2010. Smashed Aussies and Kiwis to all parts of the ground at their home. That tour is probably the reason for U. Akmal being there.

    Faheem always been good against the short ball but since a few months he has improved his overall batting.


    "You aren't a failure if you fail, you are a failure if you don't get up to try again" - Imran Khan.

  24. #104
    Debut
    Aug 2010
    Venue
    Sheffield
    Runs
    36,484
    Mentioned
    1249 Post(s)
    Tagged
    12 Thread(s)
    Day and night difference with his batting now. Could've got a hundred had he farmed more of the strike.

    Faheem's form allows us to balance the side perfectly now. No more debates about 4 vs 5 bowlers.

    With Faheem at 7, you can try so many combinations from 4 seamers and 1 spinner, 3 seamers and 2 spinners, or even 2 seamers and 3 spinners if it's a raging turner.

  25. #105
    Debut
    Mar 2016
    Venue
    Attock
    Runs
    4,321
    Mentioned
    753 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    Highest Test batting average against short balls (>8m) since 2006:

    1. Umar Akmal - 105.00
    2. Adam Voges - 96.66
    3. AB de Villiers - 95.11
    4. Hashim Amla - 88.59
    5. Faheem Ashraf - 87.00

    Interesting stat
    Interesting indeed.

    Faheem actually struggled with bounce in SA. It will be interesting to see how he copes with bounce in Aus and SA next time. Yes he did well in NZ but kiwi bowlers didn't jave much pace.

    That being said, he has become a valuable player for us. Should bat at 4 for Islu in PSL.

  26. #106
    Debut
    Oct 2014
    Runs
    7,904
    Mentioned
    58 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Day and night difference with his batting now. Could've got a hundred had he farmed more of the strike.

    Faheem's form allows us to balance the side perfectly now. No more debates about 4 vs 5 bowlers.

    With Faheem at 7, you can try so many combinations from 4 seamers and 1 spinner, 3 seamers and 2 spinners, or even 2 seamers and 3 spinners if it's a raging turner.
    This is the most important thing... Faheem gives the much needed balance which is what every test team is looking for...

    His batting has improved leaps and bounds.. Want more performances like this from him..

  27. #107
    Debut
    Jul 2015
    Venue
    London, England
    Runs
    2,794
    Mentioned
    529 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    He just looks so more assured in his batting right now and just as a cricketer. I would like to see his pace improve if I am honest but overall very impressive with his recent form.

  28. #108
    Debut
    Jun 2017
    Runs
    2,182
    Mentioned
    67 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    very good indeed ..i wouldnt blame him today for not farming the strike as he was looking a million dollars.

    I hope his pace is not down to shoulder injury he has had. If he get to 82-85 mph regular and with his batting form he will be a great asset moving forwards.

  29. #109
    Debut
    Jun 2017
    Venue
    Manchester
    Runs
    5,088
    Mentioned
    121 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Was called the most useless cricketer ever and so on. Now people are doing a double take on here.

    Another one, Junaids rightly backed while everyone else turned on him.


    I hereby present to thee, inventor of thy round table, arise - Sir Cumference

  30. #110
    Debut
    Aug 2010
    Venue
    Sheffield
    Runs
    36,484
    Mentioned
    1249 Post(s)
    Tagged
    12 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Kroll View Post
    Was called the most useless cricketer ever and so on. Now people are doing a double take on here.

    Another one, Junaids rightly backed while everyone else turned on him.
    Because he was useless pre-Yousuf sessions. There's no point saying the sky is green and grass is blue. The numbers speak for itself - but he's worked hard on his game and the results are there to see.

    As for Junaids, he also would like to promote Mohammad Nawaz as a Test #5 so perhaps you ought to be careful before declaring him a paragon of cricketing wisdom with all due respect to him.

  31. #111
    Debut
    Jun 2017
    Venue
    Manchester
    Runs
    5,088
    Mentioned
    121 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Because he was useless pre-Yousuf sessions. There's no point saying the sky is green and grass is blue. The numbers speak for itself - but he's worked hard on his game and the results are there to see.

    As for Junaids, he also would like to promote Mohammad Nawaz as a Test #5 so perhaps you ought to be careful before declaring him a paragon of cricketing wisdom with all due respect to him.
    I do recall he did have a very decent outing in SA with the ball so perhaps the criticism was a bit OTT although he wasn't performing with the bat at the time especially in LOI's.

    They must have seen something in him to back him till now.

    Nobody mentioned Nawaz here but maybe he could surprise us all like Lord Faheem has done.

  32. #112
    Debut
    Jul 2016
    Venue
    New Jersey, USA
    Runs
    5,800
    Mentioned
    75 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Faheem has been very lucky to have a free ride for 4 years. He was selected as a bowling all rounder but has been no less than pathetic in both. Now at least his batting has improved and has been a very useful contributor at lower middle order . His bowling is still not good , even pace is down.

    If he improves his bowling too and chips in with couple of wickets in each outing, he can be a very useful team member.

  33. #113
    Debut
    Apr 2015
    Runs
    5,196
    Mentioned
    115 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    Faheem has been very lucky to have a free ride for 4 years. He was selected as a bowling all rounder but has been no less than pathetic in both. Now at least his batting has improved and has been a very useful contributor at lower middle order . His bowling is still not good , even pace is down.

    If he improves his bowling too and chips in with couple of wickets in each outing, he can be a very useful team member.
    Faheem has always been decent in tests and shouldn't have been dropped. But odis and t20s he was dreadful to say the least.

  34. #114
    Debut
    Oct 2016
    Runs
    20,608
    Mentioned
    522 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Khan12 View Post
    Faheem has always been decent in tests and shouldn't have been dropped. But odis and t20s he was dreadful to say the least.
    This.

    I have mentioned it as well quite a few times before that our fans and sometimes even the national selectors confuse formats. He always had a better FC record (Average of 30+) as well in comparison to T20s and List A (Average of 16)

    If we take out the last 6 innings of Faheem which he played in last few months he only played 6 innings in test cricket in the period of 2018-2020(Start) where he also had a highest score of 83 in Ireland and 37 off 38 in Eng as well.

    He has improved his overall balance and positioning but, its not like as per earlier stats or performances he could have been refereed to as not meant for test cricket based upon just 6 innings in test cricket he played.

    On the other hand he is yet to perform in LOIs with bat which has been his weaker format from the very start. Hopefully his improvements come into play in white ball cricket as well. I wont be surprised if his reputation deteriorates again in the eyes of critics and fans if he doesnt perform in white ball cricket and talks about his exclusion even from test squad start.
    Last edited by Titan24; 6th February 2021 at 03:56.

  35. #115
    Debut
    Oct 2016
    Runs
    20,608
    Mentioned
    522 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Performances in different formats should be judged separately.

  36. #116
    Debut
    Jul 2012
    Venue
    UK
    Runs
    6,241
    Mentioned
    80 Post(s)
    Tagged
    3 Thread(s)
    Score a few hundreds and take a few five wicket hauls.

    To do that he will need to work 10 times harder. He doesnt appear to be someone who would want to go the extra 10 miles. I hope I am wrong though.

  37. #117
    Debut
    Jan 2013
    Runs
    16,170
    Mentioned
    2572 Post(s)
    Tagged
    10 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Because he was useless pre-Yousuf sessions. There's no point saying the sky is green and grass is blue. The numbers speak for itself - but he's worked hard on his game and the results are there to see.

    As for Junaids, he also would like to promote Mohammad Nawaz as a Test #5 so perhaps you ought to be careful before declaring him a paragon of cricketing wisdom with all due respect to him.
    The Mohammad Nawaz issue is slightly different, to be fair.

    Ever since the Tests in England and Ireland in May 2018 it has seemed obvious that because of Pakistan’s weak batting and shallow bowling, the best Test option outside Asia is ALWAYS

    7. Shadab Khan
    8. Faheem Ashraf

    Twice in three Tests they turned collapses into Test victories with the bat.

    I do have some doubts about Faheem’s bowling, and I would be grooming Amad Butt in every national squad in every format in the hope that he can improve his batting and bowling. That extra 5K speed with the ball and 6 cm in height makes him have a much higher ceiling with the ball than Faheem has.

    Mohammad Nawaz is there for a different reason for me.

    I think that for the World Test Championship 2021-23-25 cycles the only viable specialist batsmen so far are:

    Babar Azam
    Mohammad Rizwan

    Azhar and Fawad will be even older.

    Saud Shakeel is unproven. Haider Ali and Abdullah Shafique are even less proven.

    That means that there need to be contingency plans. And if the team is accepting of batsmen like Abid Ali and Haris Sohail who struggle to average 20 against decent opposition, you have to consider whether you stick Rizwan up as a specialist batsman so that you can accommodate Rohail Nazir at 6 and you just accept that 5, 6, 7 and 8 are all going to be all-rounders to give you batting depth to try to camouflage the lack of specialist talent.

    If things don’t improve with the bat, Pakistan are going to have to seriously consider that the post-Azhar/Fawad world might look like:

    1. Abdullah Shafique or Haider Ali
    2. Mohammad Rizwan
    3. Saud Shakeel
    4. Babar Azam
    5. Mohammad Nawaz
    6. Rohail Nazir (wk)
    7. Shadab Khan
    8. Faheem Ashraf
    9. Sajid Khan (Asia) / Hasan Ali (SENA)
    10. Shaheen Shah Afridi
    11. Naseem Shah

    The batting - including Mohammad Nawaz - is terrifyingly poor.

    But that’s why you pack Rohail and Shadab and Faheem as three guys who may well score as many runs from 6-7-8 as Shafique, Rizwan and Shakeel from 1-2-3.

  38. #118
    Debut
    Feb 2005
    Venue
    UK
    Runs
    1,945
    Mentioned
    15 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Answer to the o/p question: listen and act upon the advise and insights of PP’s own cricket specialists who have very skilfully extrapolated their experience of back garden, street and club cricket to the professional game.

    These PP cricket specialists have also processed the unique experiences of observing their fathers, uncles and elder brothers discharging emotional outbursts and other forms of hot gases whilst watching the Pakistani cricket team. They have also closely observed these learned connoisseur provide their colourful post match debriefings.

    These PP cricket specialists, after graduating from their respective incubative cricketing nurseries, feel duty bound to post their “insights” and “readings” on the professional game on open forums irrespective of the fact that they are consistently wrong on all aspects of the professional game.

    PP cricket specialists are more entertaining than informative for the one and only reason, they think others actually take them seriously.

    We are lucky to know that as long as there is PP their will also be PP’s own cricket specialists. May Allah keep them in his prospective custody.

  39. #119
    Debut
    Jan 2020
    Venue
    California, Lahore
    Runs
    8,480
    Mentioned
    1438 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    The Mohammad Nawaz issue is slightly different, to be fair.

    Ever since the Tests in England and Ireland in May 2018 it has seemed obvious that because of Pakistan’s weak batting and shallow bowling, the best Test option outside Asia is ALWAYS

    7. Shadab Khan
    8. Faheem Ashraf

    Twice in three Tests they turned collapses into Test victories with the bat.

    I do have some doubts about Faheem’s bowling, and I would be grooming Amad Butt in every national squad in every format in the hope that he can improve his batting and bowling. That extra 5K speed with the ball and 6 cm in height makes him have a much higher ceiling with the ball than Faheem has.

    Mohammad Nawaz is there for a different reason for me.

    I think that for the World Test Championship 2021-23-25 cycles the only viable specialist batsmen so far are:

    Babar Azam
    Mohammad Rizwan

    Azhar and Fawad will be even older.

    Saud Shakeel is unproven. Haider Ali and Abdullah Shafique are even less proven.

    That means that there need to be contingency plans. And if the team is accepting of batsmen like Abid Ali and Haris Sohail who struggle to average 20 against decent opposition, you have to consider whether you stick Rizwan up as a specialist batsman so that you can accommodate Rohail Nazir at 6 and you just accept that 5, 6, 7 and 8 are all going to be all-rounders to give you batting depth to try to camouflage the lack of specialist talent.

    If things don’t improve with the bat, Pakistan are going to have to seriously consider that the post-Azhar/Fawad world might look like:

    1. Abdullah Shafique or Haider Ali
    2. Mohammad Rizwan
    3. Saud Shakeel
    4. Babar Azam
    5. Mohammad Nawaz
    6. Rohail Nazir (wk)
    7. Shadab Khan
    8. Faheem Ashraf
    9. Sajid Khan (Asia) / Hasan Ali (SENA)
    10. Shaheen Shah Afridi
    11. Naseem Shah

    The batting - including Mohammad Nawaz - is terrifyingly poor.

    But that’s why you pack Rohail and Shadab and Faheem as three guys who may well score as many runs from 6-7-8 as Shafique, Rizwan and Shakeel from 1-2-3.
    Fawad has another 5 years in him. Trust me. Azhar, due to dodgy knees plus bad overall fitness, plus role in the top order against the new ball, has only 1-2 years left in him. I don’t think we’re going to end up in as much of a jumble as you seem to be suggesting.

    2021-2022
    1. Azhar Ali
    2. Imran Butt
    3. Saud Shakeel
    4. Babar Azam (c)
    5. Fawad Alam
    6. Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
    7. Faheem Ashraf
    8. Hassan Ali
    9. Yasir Shah
    10. Nauman Ali
    11. Shaheen Afridi

    2022-2025
    1. Haider Ali / Abdullah Shafique
    2. Imran Butt / Usman Salahuddin
    3. Saud Shakeel
    4. Babar Azam (c)
    5. Fawad Alam
    6. Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
    7. Faheem Ashraf
    8. Hassan Ali
    9. Yasir Shah
    10. Nauman Ali
    11. Shaheen Afridi

    No need to create a hodgepodge of Rizwan opening or batting at 3. Our 3-11 is pretty much settled for the next 5 years — we just need to figure out the opening combination.

    We can also move Saud up to open with Kamran Ghulam in at 3 if none of the four openers I listed work out.
    Last edited by Thunderbolt14; 6th February 2021 at 06:30.

  40. #120
    Debut
    Jun 2017
    Venue
    Manchester
    Runs
    5,088
    Mentioned
    121 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post

    1. Abdullah Shafique or Haider Ali
    2. Mohammad Rizwan
    3. Saud Shakeel
    4. Babar Azam
    5. Mohammad Nawaz
    6. Rohail Nazir (wk)
    7. Shadab Khan
    8. Faheem Ashraf
    9. Sajid Khan (Asia) / Hasan Ali (SENA)
    10. Shaheen Shah Afridi
    11. Naseem Shah

    The batting - including Mohammad Nawaz - is terrifyingly poor.

    But that’s why you pack Rohail and Shadab and Faheem as three guys who may well score as many runs from 6-7-8 as Shafique, Rizwan and Shakeel from 1-2-3.
    Naseem Shah? You should know better to throw up any random mediocre cricketer. The Naseem experiment is done and dusted. Haider Ali won't be able to cut it as an opener either.


    I hereby present to thee, inventor of thy round table, arise - Sir Cumference

  41. #121
    Debut
    Jun 2001
    Venue
    UK
    Runs
    80,998
    Mentioned
    2136 Post(s)
    Tagged
    27 Thread(s)
    His bowling is still lacking in Test cricket.

    Against South Africa he took 1 wicket for 77 runs in the series.

    To me, that is not the performance of an effective 3rd seamer.



  42. #122
    Debut
    Jan 2020
    Venue
    California, Lahore
    Runs
    8,480
    Mentioned
    1438 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    His bowling is still lacking in Test cricket.

    Against South Africa he took 1 wicket for 77 runs in the series.

    To me, that is not the performance of an effective 3rd seamer.
    Agreed. He’s a batting all rounder for now, and can become a balanced all rounder in SENA I suppose. He got some pretty good reverse swing with the old ball in this last innings, didn’t see that from him before - I’d like to see if he can utilize that better going forward.

  43. #123
    Debut
    Feb 2019
    Runs
    8,295
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Fahim batting has come on leaps and bounds.his bowling is steady enough picking up odd wicket

  44. #124
    Debut
    Jun 2019
    Runs
    1,288
    Mentioned
    12 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigboii View Post
    Even if he makes centeries after centeries guess what some random indian cricketer (or if they're feeling especially generous they'll add some Aussie into the mix) in thier domestics would still be better than him

    Some PPers and thier ultimate wisdom
    brutal but true for "inferiority complexed" posters

  45. #125
    Debut
    Jul 2016
    Venue
    New Jersey, USA
    Runs
    5,800
    Mentioned
    75 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    Fahim batting has come on leaps and bounds.his bowling is steady enough picking up odd wicket
    How many wickets the "bowling all rounder " has taken in two tests ? A part timer like Azhar Ali , Fawad or if Saud was playing could have done a better job in bowling than him.

    Yes, his batting has improved, hope this is not a flash in the pan.

  46. #126
    Debut
    Jul 2016
    Venue
    New Jersey, USA
    Runs
    5,800
    Mentioned
    75 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    His bowling is still lacking in Test cricket.

    Against South Africa he took 1 wicket for 77 runs in the series.

    To me, that is not the performance of an effective 3rd seamer.
    Faf gave that wickets to him, he didn't take it . It was a bad ball , should have dispatched for four.

  47. #127
    Debut
    Jul 2017
    Runs
    53
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Our standards are so low that a Pakistani cricketer has to do nothing to be considered quality.

    An all-rounder like Faheem pays his due by scoring a couple of half-centuries and a batsman like Fawad becomes a legend after scoring a baby hundred on his home ground.

    Faheem has already proved himself. So has Fawad.
    Having high standards means only praising a number 7 who averages more than 42 with the bat and lower than 33 with the ball.

    These hot takes and more from our resident attention seeking contrarian.

  48. #128
    Debut
    Jul 2006
    Runs
    6,477
    Mentioned
    45 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    He can walk in to our brittle batting lineup as a batsmen alone. How many of our proper batsmen average 40+ in test cricket? Let him enjoy his purple patch with the bat and anything he does with the bowl should be considered as a bonus for now.

  49. #129
    Debut
    Feb 2019
    Runs
    8,295
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    How many wickets the "bowling all rounder " has taken in two tests ? A part timer like Azhar Ali , Fawad or if Saud was playing could have done a better job in bowling than him.

    Yes, his batting has improved, hope this is not a flash in the pan.
    Please read again odd wicket* hes performing atleast in one department

  50. #130
    Debut
    Feb 2019
    Runs
    8,295
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    Faf gave that wickets to him, he didn't take it . It was a bad ball , should have dispatched for four.
    same can be said when he got out to linde

  51. #131
    Debut
    Mar 2004
    Venue
    Manchester, UK
    Runs
    106,383
    Mentioned
    673 Post(s)
    Tagged
    4 Thread(s)
    Really needs to improve potency with ball espcially if hes going to be 3rd seamer if we are playing 2 spinners and 2 front line pacers to.

  52. #132
    Debut
    Jul 2012
    Venue
    UK
    Runs
    6,241
    Mentioned
    80 Post(s)
    Tagged
    3 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Amjid Javed View Post
    Really needs to improve potency with ball espcially if hes going to be 3rd seamer if we are playing 2 spinners and 2 front line pacers to.
    That is my biggest concern as well. He is perhaps OK to be the 4th seamer but not the 3rd seamer.

    He really needs to up his game as a medium pacer,

  53. #133
    Debut
    Jan 2013
    Runs
    694
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    He used to bowl between 135km to 140km...but this series was hovering around 130km or less?

    Any reasons?

  54. #134
    Debut
    Jun 2001
    Venue
    UK
    Runs
    80,998
    Mentioned
    2136 Post(s)
    Tagged
    27 Thread(s)
    What made me chuckle was when Faheem was hiding the ball from the batsman when he was running in to bowl, as if he was Waqar Younis about to unleash a thunderbolt at 150kph. Instead it would end up being a 125kph double-bouncing delivery

    He has a lot of work to do n his bowling as there isn't much to it.

    To be fair though, he's an honest trier and I wish him all the best.
    Last edited by Saj; 10th February 2021 at 02:06.



  55. #135
    Debut
    Jul 2012
    Venue
    UK
    Runs
    6,241
    Mentioned
    80 Post(s)
    Tagged
    3 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    What made me chuckle was when Faheem was hiding the ball from the batsman when he was running in to bowl, as if he was Waqar Younis about to unleash a thunderbolt at 150kph. Instead it would end up being a 125kph double-bouncing delivery

    He has a lot of work to do n his bowling as there isn't much to it.

    To be fair though, he's an honest trier and I wish him all the best.
    Saj, surely he is not trying hard enough if he has lost at least 5 km/hr from his bowling speed and that too at such a young age?

  56. #136
    Debut
    Jun 2001
    Venue
    UK
    Runs
    80,998
    Mentioned
    2136 Post(s)
    Tagged
    27 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    Saj, surely he is not trying hard enough if he has lost at least 5 km/hr from his bowling speed and that too at such a young age?
    One for Waqar to answer.

    I'll ask him.



  57. #137
    Debut
    Jul 2020
    Runs
    1,615
    Mentioned
    18 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    What made me chuckle was when Faheem was hiding the ball from the batsman when he was running in to bowl, as if he was Waqar Younis about to unleash a thunderbolt at 150kph. Instead it would end up being a 125kph double-bouncing delivery

    He has a lot of work to do n his bowling as there isn't much to it.

    To be fair though, he's an honest trier and I wish him all the best.
    Jimmy was hiding it too.

    The delivery that got Gill or Rahane (cannot remember which) clocked around 129kph.

    If Faheem can demonstrate the control that either of Jimmy/Younis have/had on the old ball, I will be merry.

    Having said that I do want him to average 135kph and bowl from closer to the stumps.

    He can and should use the crease for mixing things up but with his action and ability to hit the deck on a length, he can be frugal and incisive, simultaneously, bowling from close to the stumps.

  58. #138
    Debut
    Jul 2016
    Venue
    New Jersey, USA
    Runs
    5,800
    Mentioned
    75 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Yk313 View Post
    Jimmy was hiding it too.

    The delivery that got Gill or Rahane (cannot remember which) clocked around 129kph.

    If Faheem can demonstrate the control that either of Jimmy/Younis have/had on the old ball, I will be merry.

    Having said that I do want him to average 135kph and bowl from closer to the stumps.

    He can and should use the crease for mixing things up but with his action and ability to hit the deck on a length, he can be frugal and incisive, simultaneously, bowling from close to the stumps.
    Its like wishing Iman Butt to bat like Gavaskar, Greenidge and Sehwag.

    Faheem is a club level bowler and can't be compared with legends if the game.

  59. #139
    Debut
    Jun 2017
    Runs
    1,519
    Mentioned
    110 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    If he’s averaging around 130-133 and keeping things tight / getting some movement, that’s perfect for his role. Trying to bowl faster than that will just shorten his career and there’s not a huge difference between 135 and 131, as in, it’s better to have the other skills which don’t increase the chance of injury.

  60. #140
    Debut
    Jan 2013
    Runs
    16,170
    Mentioned
    2572 Post(s)
    Tagged
    10 Thread(s)
    The weird thing is that when Northants gave him a red ball contract, they specifically linked it to him being a quicker bowler than most in county cricket!

  61. #141
    Debut
    Jul 2020
    Runs
    1,615
    Mentioned
    18 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    Its like wishing Iman Butt to bat like Gavaskar, Greenidge and Sehwag.

    Faheem is a club level bowler and can't be compared with legends if the game.
    That was the point of the post but I appreciate tone does not always convey well over text.


Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •