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    BCCI and ICC agree on the number of events for next FTP cycle, 6 World Cups instead of 8

    "Theoretically, eight events in the next cycle were approved, in principle, by the ICC executive board in October 2019 but there would be little clarity around it even within the member boards, with the FTP calendar neither finalized nor approved.

    The BCCI's insistence on six world events in the next cycle is a stand that is understood to have been endorsed by New Zealand Cricket (NZC), too, apart from Cricket Australia (CA) and England & Wales Cricket Board (ECB). Other boards were in favour of eight world events in the next cycle as the spoils from these ICC events are important components of their income. It is not so much for CA, ECB and BCCI.

    With regards to the process of inviting Expressions of Interest (EOIs) for ICC tournaments, PCB chairman Ehsan Mani recently denied any knowledge of BCCI's reservations around the issue but Cricbuzz can confirm that the issue was indeed raised by the BCCI. In addition to that, it's also learnt that the BCCI, CA and ECB never formally responded to ICC's mail seeking EOIs.

    But as of now, it's unlikely that the process of bidding will see the light of day anytime soon."

    Source:; https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-new...next-ftp-cycle

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    BCCICC will get its way.. in form or another.. As usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoshiarpurexpress View Post
    BCCICC will get its way.. in form or another.. As usual.
    naah, BCCI was in disarray for the last few years due to the naive Supreme Court appointed administrators and they were getting outfoxed by Manohar the snake at the ICC.

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    This is getting boring, can we have a FIFA like body. Why is a 3rd world country allowed to influence anything regardless of how many rupees are printed. We need an independent body thats professional and neutral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat_Track_Bully View Post
    This is getting boring, can we have a FIFA like body. Why is a 3rd world country allowed to influence anything regardless of how many rupees are printed. We need an independent body thats professional and neutral.
    BCCICC is a selfish entity but r u really calling FIFA "independent", "professional " and "neutral"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat_Track_Bully View Post
    This is getting boring, can we have a FIFA like body. Why is a 3rd world country allowed to influence anything regardless of how many rupees are printed. We need an independent body thats professional and neutral.
    Because that country brings in the money that ICC hands out to other boards. ICC needs the money and India brings Majority of it, if you have a problem, ask PCB to bring in the funds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JattMaula View Post
    BCCICC is a selfish entity but r u really calling FIFA "independent", "professional " and "neutral"?
    Then what are they? Please elaborate. While you do that please also tell how many countries come under FIFA, which country dictates FIFA or pressurises it the most in Football like India does in cricket. Thanks.

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    Hahaa bcci finally agrees to icc after some rona-dhona.

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    I would not even want PCB running ICC. I want it to become totally impartial and independent. Problem is desis like to do a lot of politics and it just bleeds into everything. Its for the best for the long run, don't worry nobody is taking your money away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banton10 View Post
    Hahaa bcci finally agrees to icc after some rona-dhona.
    You mean ICC agrees to BCCI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JattMaula View Post
    BCCICC is a selfish entity but r u really calling FIFA "independent", "professional " and "neutral"?
    At least FIFA is not held hostage by a single third world country.

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    An occasion where I agree with BCCI stance but for a different reason.

    No need for an overkill ICC global events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artaxerxes View Post
    At least FIFA is not held hostage by a single third world country.
    Atleast in FIFA most countries are not dependent on their handouts that majorly comes from one country.

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    If BCCI had there way they wud host all 6 events aswell. Selfish cricket board and arrogant cricket nation who think whole world revolves around them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amjid Javed View Post
    If BCCI had there way they wud host all 6 events aswell. Selfish cricket board and arrogant cricket nation who think whole world revolves around them.
    Absolutely. They do generate lot of revenue but have selfishly used it to fill their own coffers rather than worrying about the global expansion of the game. Just because of their arrogance DRS system was not implemented for long time. I rememeber for long DRS implementation was on the whims of Dhoni and Sachin Tendulkar. Is this how the game will run now?
    Nobody is bigger than the game. Kohli-Shastri-BCCI mafia must remember that. No wonder cricket is dying out in smaller nations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gullycricket View Post
    Absolutely. They do generate lot of revenue but have selfishly used it to fill their own coffers rather than worrying about the global expansion of the game. Just because of their arrogance DRS system was not implemented for long time. I rememeber for long DRS implementation was on the whims of Dhoni and Sachin Tendulkar. Is this how the game will run now?
    Nobody is bigger than the game. Kohli-Shastri-BCCI mafia must remember that. No wonder cricket is dying out in smaller nations
    Why should BCCI give away the money it generates to others? Did anyone gave money to BCCI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amjid Javed View Post
    If BCCI had there way they wud host all 6 events aswell. Selfish cricket board and arrogant cricket nation who think whole world revolves around them.
    The biggest revenue generator in world cricket has hosted 1 ICC event since the 2011 WC. India hasn't hosted an Asia Cup since 1990.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pillionrider View Post
    The biggest revenue generator in world cricket has hosted 1 ICC event since the 2011 WC. India hasn't hosted an Asia Cup since 1990.

    The last world t20 was hosted by india. The next world t20 (this year) would be hosted by india. The next World Cup would be hosted by india. India hosted World Cup 10 years ago (3 world cups ago).

    How much do u think India should get then. I think a World Cup should come back to a country after 30 years. Here India hosting 5 events in 10 years. Come on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedzee View Post
    The last world t20 was hosted by india. The next world t20 (this year) would be hosted by india. The next World Cup would be hosted by india. India hosted World Cup 10 years ago (3 world cups ago).

    How much do u think India should get then. I think a World Cup should come back to a country after 30 years. Here India hosting 5 events in 10 years. Come on!
    Didn't realize there hasn't been a T20 WC since the last India one.

    Ok, maybe I just want to watch some live matches since I don't go to IPL games anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Why should BCCI give away the money it generates to others? Did anyone gave money to BCCI?
    How you develop the game with this mentality. Every board should chip in with money they can provide. Ofcourse BCCI has the largest responsibility with being the largest revenue generator. BCCI will not go bankrupt by doing it. How else will the game grow if the biggest board is being so greedy?
    Typical South Asian mentality. Think if Bill Gates etc thought the same what would happen to all the innovations, Covid research. Think on same lines


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    Quote Originally Posted by pillionrider View Post
    The biggest revenue generator in world cricket has hosted 1 ICC event since the 2011 WC. India hasn't hosted an Asia Cup since 1990.

    Lol itís hosting two back to back WT20s and 2 WC in 12 years which is unprecedented

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gullycricket View Post
    How you develop the game with this mentality. Every board should chip in with money they can provide. Ofcourse BCCI has the largest responsibility with being the largest revenue generator. BCCI will not go bankrupt by doing it. How else will the game grow if the biggest board is being so greedy?
    Typical South Asian mentality. Think if Bill Gates etc thought the same what would happen to all the innovations, Covid research. Think on same lines
    No thank you. It is not BCCI's responsibility to fund incompetent corrupt boards where govt interferes regularly in the running of the game.

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    Bcci and icc ruining the game as always

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Lol it’s hosting two back to back WT20s and 2 WC in 12 years which is unprecedented
    As I mentioned later, I didn't realize there hasn't been a T20 WC since the one in India

    But unprecedented?

    England hosted the first 3 WCs which is probably fine as they were perhaps the only ones equipped at the time to host them apart from Australia.
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    Aus: 1992, 2015

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedzee View Post
    The last world t20 was hosted by india. The next world t20 (this year) would be hosted by india. The next World Cup would be hosted by india. India hosted World Cup 10 years ago (3 world cups ago).

    How much do u think India should get then. I think a World Cup should come back to a country after 30 years. Here India hosting 5 events in 10 years. Come on!
    The CWC can only be played in like 4 places. How do you expect there to be a 30 year gap between a nation hosting events?
    Last edited by Ellipsism; 4th March 2021 at 12:14.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gullycricket View Post
    How you develop the game with this mentality. Every board should chip in with money they can provide. Ofcourse BCCI has the largest responsibility with being the largest revenue generator. BCCI will not go bankrupt by doing it. How else will the game grow if the biggest board is being so greedy?
    Typical South Asian mentality. Think if Bill Gates etc thought the same what would happen to all the innovations, Covid research. Think on same lines
    Developing the game is the sole and prime responsibility of the ICC not individual boards. Of which they do a very poor job. The ICC is the one that should be taken to task.

    Just because BCCI has a lot of money does not mean that it should be given away or be taken away by someone else. Whatever money given should be voluntary, not forced.

    In your own Bill Gates example, him giving his money was voluntary. Him keeping $130 billion for himself is not greed. Wanting to keep the money you make does not amount to greed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    The CWC can only be played in like 4 places. How do you expect there to be a 30 year gap between a nation hosting events?
    Game is developing, new countries coming into fold. Just like previously India shared wc with SL, Pak, BD, and Aus with NZ, individual nations can hold it too. For example: India is hosting it in 2023, previously they shared it. Hell, even UAE can host a World Cup if needed. Surely the cycle can be every 30 years (or after 7 World cups).

    The last time SA had a World Cup was almost 20 years ago. Maybe they should be getting it something this decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Why should BCCI give away the money it generates to others? Did anyone gave money to BCCI?
    I agree to some extent, but if all boards are asked by the ICC to commit a certain percentage of their revenue towards a WC or any cyclical event, then I don't think there should be any excuse for BCCI to do so. If every other board does it, that would be fair.

    BCCI not supporting the EOI is basic economics and common sense, there's no direct benefit to the BCCI and it loses money, so why would they hand out money to others? Morally, maybe they should, but logically there seems to be no reason.

    However, I believe that ICC needs to grow a spine and actually start taking authority. They should solely be making decisions, the Big 3 mentality should not exist if the game wants to progress. It's not the BCCI's fault that smaller cricketing nations can't generate revenue, it's mostly the ICC's fault that they aren't able to supply those nations with enough cricket.

    The ICC is a useless, spineless cricketing body which has done nothing in the last few years apart from trying to milk the game for money to keep within their own pockets.

    The BCCI is not at fault here.

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    Me not like this. Me always like more cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JattMaula View Post
    BCCICC is a selfish entity but r u really calling FIFA "independent", "professional " and "neutral"?
    But it is far better than the ICC. Can you imagine if there was a WTC like world championship in football and ENgland refused to play France?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat_Track_Bully View Post
    This is getting boring, can we have a FIFA like body. Why is a 3rd world country allowed to influence anything regardless of how many rupees are printed. We need an independent body thats professional and neutral.
    Because most of the revenues comes from the "3rd world country". As they say, "money talks and ** walks".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Then what are they? Please elaborate. While you do that please also tell how many countries come under FIFA, which country dictates FIFA or pressurises it the most in Football like India does in cricket. Thanks.
    If one country produced more than 60% of the revenues for FIFA, you can bet they would have a similar influence. You are welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Atleast in FIFA most countries are not dependent on their handouts that majorly comes from one country.
    Irrelevant.

    I don't blame BCCI as i would possibly do the same if I was them as they obviously gey their way.

    However, Cricket cannot compare with Football etc, where these sorts of tactics are entertained

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    Quote Originally Posted by pillionrider View Post
    As I mentioned later, I didn't realize there hasn't been a T20 WC since the one in India

    But unprecedented?

    England hosted the first 3 WCs which is probably fine as they were perhaps the only ones equipped at the time to host them apart from Australia.
    CWC
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    Aus: 1992, 2015

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    Eng: 2004, 2013, 2017 (back to back)
    Thereís always been a bias towards England historically perhaps due to lords.

    Australia had a 23 year gap between world cups. And has never hosted CT or WT20 either. They always get shafted I feel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    There’s always been a bias towards England historically perhaps due to lords.

    Australia had a 23 year gap between world cups. And has never hosted CT or WT20 either. They always get shafted I feel
    They get shafted... and then they get their revenge by winning the most number of the biggest tournament

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    If one country produced more than 60% of the revenues for FIFA, you can bet they would have a similar influence. You are welcome.
    No they would not ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    There’s always been a bias towards England historically perhaps due to lords.

    Australia had a 23 year gap between world cups. And has never hosted CT or WT20 either. They always get shafted I feel
    In the current scenario, any ICC event held has to be time friendly to Indian TV audience. I think that is the first thing that ICC looks at fortunately or unfortunately. Any country that is not time friendly will not fly. Which is one of the reasons why Aus/NZ are not a big favorite as hosts. That is the current reality.

    I remember a T20WC in WI where matches were played at 9:30 AM local time because it was prime time in India. Imagine a T20 game at 9 in the morning.

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    That's sad. World events are lot more entertaining than Bilaterals.

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    World cups planned are still too many. I guess they give a chance to the small teams to have some excitement and also a way for them to leach millions of dollars from BCCI and, to some extent, ECB.

    Bilateral series with 3-6 Tests and equal numbers of ODIs are more fun.

    All this insults and hatred towards BCCI is the behaviour of a beggar towards a rich person. Beggar covets rich personís money, will grovel before him to get crumbs somehow but then gives chicest gaali behind his back wishing him the worst. Nothing unusual. USA also is used to it. BCCI will also grow a thick skin.


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