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    Based on what is he batting at 5 in international cricket? A place where you need your most dynamic limited overs batsman


    Hard to get a handle on this double edged sword

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    Short ball struggles, feet all over the place and then out.

    Simple set up.



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    That was pretty much expected. no way this kid would have been able to survive nortje. Sorry kid back to domestics with you.

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    One of the worst cricketer to represent Pakistan

    He makes Iftikhar look like Dhoni in comparison

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    Can't play short deliveries 😄🤣

    Omg what a selection

    Just call it now this guy is not intl material

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Short ball struggles, feet all over the place and then out.

    Simple set up.
    Should be his last impression. Not international material at all.

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    Got into a fetal position against Nortje on the penultimate ball of his brief inning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amjid Javed View Post
    Only thing is that SA pacers will now keep up short stuff for rest of series to such batsmen.
    As i mentioned after 1st odi, will get peppered by short ball. Simply cant handle it.

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    Yet another young Pakistani player with no talent and no skill.

    How surprising.....not.

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    Nevermind the low scores, body language not great. Looks like a softie.

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    Lets be honest

    Imad as a batsman is better than all these jokers that have played recently. #BringbackImad

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    This guy is batting at number 5 for our national team . . poor guy! I really feel for him . . its not his fault . .

    Its our selectors and decision makers who've got blinkers on . . this is one of the worst team selections I have seen for a Pakistan team EVER . . and we usually mess up selection . .

    This guy is at best a late order T20 hitter . . and he's being asked to bat at number 5 in a 50 over game . . as ludicrous as it gets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amjid Javed View Post
    As i mentioned after 1st odi, will get peppered by short ball. Simply cant handle it.
    I think that was a very very obvious statement lol.

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    Need proper batsman not this dude

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    Where did this guy come from?
    Did he play PSL?
    What is his domestic average?

    What is going on??????????

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    Compare him to the likes of Nitish Rana, Abhishek Sharma, Devdutt Padikkal etc shows why Indian cricket is miles above Pakistan cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NauV View Post
    This guy is batting at number 5 for our national team . . poor guy! I really feel for him . . its not his fault . .

    Its our selectors and decision makers who've got blinkers on . . this is one of the worst team selections I have seen for a Pakistan team EVER . . and we usually mess up selection . .

    This guy is at best a late order T20 hitter . . and he's being asked to bat at number 5 in a 50 over game . . as ludicrous as it gets
    Late order hitter 😄

    He's simply not intl material but a club level cricketer look how he bats positioning feet all over the place , poking with the bat , this guy wouldn't even get in a county team in the UK with a technique like that .

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    He was never good enough.
    The genius management identifies him as a bigger talent than haider. Alright then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    So why is it that we find out in international thay danish cant play short ball?

    Didnt waseem etc knew this ny watching domestix?
    Doubt he saw him play, or if he did, he made a very superficial judgment.

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    That shows our selectors just look at the domestic stats and don;t bother to watch the player playing and his technique . No wonder players like Danish , Khushdil and Asif keep playing for Pakistan.


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    Dont have to compare him to international batsmen.
    A cursory glance at his domestic record tell you all you need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    That shows our selectors just look at the domestic stats and don;t bother to watch the player playing and his technique . No wonder players like Danish , Khushdil and Asif keep playing for Pakistan.
    His domestic stats dont warrant selection either.

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    How do guys like him are rated and picked for national side? Is this the sign that things are gettung bad to worse?

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    Youngsters do not face pacers the calibre of Nortje or bat on surfaces like the Wanderers in domestic cricket.

    Our pacers are generally short and skiddy, relying on movement in the air than bounce, and the ball bounces knee high on our bland pitches.

    So no surprise Danish Aziz has struggled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ethan hunt View Post
    His domestic stats dont warrant selection either.
    Then he must be on Karachi's quota .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Youngsters do not face pacers the calibre of Nortje or bat on surfaces like the Wanderers in domestic cricket.

    Our pacers are generally short and skiddy, relying on movement in the air than bounce, and the ball bounces knee high on our bland pitches.

    So no surprise Danish Aziz has struggled.
    These cricketers have no technique. Press forward for short pitch deliveries

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    Disappointing on all counts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Youngsters do not face pacers the calibre of Nortje or bat on surfaces like the Wanderers in domestic cricket.

    Our pacers are generally short and skiddy, relying on movement in the air than bounce, and the ball bounces knee high on our bland pitches.

    So no surprise Danish Aziz has struggled.
    That begs the question why pick him now. Rather pick him for an easier introduction.

    Why not pick or stick with a player who had a better chance of performing.



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    He is club cricketer level - What the hell is mohammad wasim, waqar and misbah doing


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    Thank you Mohammad Waseem for your brain ****.

    Can we now only select players who have shown that they can bat in domestic. Some one needs to tell him how to do the job. This madness of selecting players based on talent and not on end product must end

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    Doesnot belong here.Should go back to domestics and come back as a better player

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    One of the worst cricketers of come out of Pakistan.

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    I feel sorry for Danish. Poor guy is being thrown into deep end only to fail. Pak management always do it. Give few chances to unprepared youngsters, they fail, then bring back old players like Hafeez n Malik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cric_lover4487 View Post
    I feel sorry for Danish. Poor guy is being thrown into deep end only to fail. Pak management always do it. Give few chances to unprepared youngsters, they fail, then bring back old players like Hafeez n Malik.
    we shouldnt feel sorry for him.He isnt 16 years old.Since 10+ years he had been preparing for this oppurtunity.Is being paid to play in domestic so that he can play Pak.No excuses

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cric_lover4487 View Post
    I feel sorry for Danish. Poor guy is being thrown into deep end only to fail. Pak management always do it. Give few chances to unprepared youngsters, they fail, then bring back old players like Hafeez n Malik.
    No, deep end would be if they placed him against a bowling attack from the top 4 teams. Not everyone should be making their debut against zimbabwe or west indies to give a false sense of security. Atleast this tells us quickly if the guy can hang or not. Saves the team a lot of time and resources

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cric_lover4487 View Post
    I feel sorry for Danish. Poor guy is being thrown into deep end only to fail. Pak management always do it. Give few chances to unprepared youngsters, they fail, then bring back old players like Hafeez n Malik.
    He is not a 16 year old kid.He is a club level player.It is waste of time to persist with him.

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    He is 25 years old and he doesn’t look ready for international cricket at all. I think he has been thrown into the deep end.

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    Tough ask to be out there facing Ngidi, Rabada and Njorte, but the best swim rather than sink.

    I don't blame the lad, rather the people who have put him in this position.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Tough ask to be out there facing Ngidi, Rabada and Njorte, but the best swim rather than sink.

    I don't blame the lad, rather the people who have put him in this position.
    So imagine him vs Cummins, Pattinson and Starc. Or boult, ferguson. Archer, woakes?
    It's sink or swim. We expect to compete with top teams with top bowling attacks. Can't be stuck scoring against Zimbabwean pacers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Tough ask to be out there facing Ngidi, Rabada and Njorte, but the best swim rather than sink.

    I don't blame the lad, rather the people who have put him in this position.
    We always love to play the blame game , if he is not ready at age 25 then he never would be. Blames comes on the selectors of course but he should have made the best of the opportunities given.

    What a disgrace of a selection

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    Quote Originally Posted by sohailmm View Post
    We always love to play the blame game , if he is not ready at age 25 then he never would be. Blames comes on the selectors of course but he should have made the best of the opportunities given.

    What a disgrace of a selection
    You're right, if batsman after playing FC and domestic cricket for so many years is not ready to face fast bowling in overseas condition , he has no business making the touring party. A good batsman would work on his technique to play short pitched deliveries.

    Imran Khan used to train his batsmen for overseas tour with fast bowlers bowling short pitched deliveries from 20 yards or so to the batsmen in nets .

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    Quote Originally Posted by sohailmm View Post
    We always love to play the blame game , if he is not ready at age 25 then he never would be. Blames comes on the selectors of course but he should have made the best of the opportunities given.

    What a disgrace of a selection
    The fact is he looks out of his depth. The people who have picked him should have realised that.

    He's scored a few runs in domestic and somehow the selectors think he is good enough.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    The fact is he looks out of his depth. The people who have picked him should have realised that.

    He's scored a few runs in domestic and somehow the selectors think he is good enough.
    Didn't you yourself tweet he should get a chance ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullet Drive View Post
    Didn't you yourself tweet he should get a chance ?
    This is what I wrote.

    Youngsters are picked but are not given a chance to play despite other players struggling and obviously not in form. This series could have been an ideal opportunity to give Danish Aziz a couple of matches yet all he has done is carry the drinks and towels.


    This was in home conditions against a weakened South Africa.

    Who knows maybe a match or two at home, a few runs under his belt and he might not have been as bad in the ongoing series.



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    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    Then he must be on Karachi's quota .
    This is only reason which I can see for the selection of Danish and Sarfaraz, they have some disillusion of entitlement that they deserve special treatment because they are victim of negligence (which I never really get to understand ).

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    People here are puzzled how Danish Aziz made into the national squad. I recall people and journalists from Karachi were shouting on social media that a match-winner and a power-hitter from Karachi has been discovered and he should be thrown into the international cricket as soon as possible. He was presented as intelligent version of Khushdil Shah. So he was selected due to social media hype and pressure. His case is similar to Abdullah Shafiq.

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    Danish’s overall numbers are poor in domestic.

    The truth is that when you have those type of figures, the chances of succeeding in International cricket are minuscule.

    Now that he has played two games, you might as well give him the last game to see if he can do something against a weakened SA bowling lineup.

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    The problem is we never allow anyone to develop. If he was identified as a good player, then let him play 15 odis on a trot to see how he goes about his game.

    He has a clear problem against short pitched problem but then again so does literally every other Pakistani batsman.

    It would be utter stupidity if he's dropped from the 3rd odi. There'll be no Nortje and Rabada, so he should find it a little easier but then again we can expect the team management to drop him instead of Asif Ali.

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    Karachi journalists are very influential.Abdullah Shafiq is technically good and talented.Danish has no talent.

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    Awful batsman way out of his depth and poor selection to throw him in at the deep end against a strong bowling unit on a bouncy wicket.

    What shocks me is that our so called management have no idea how to develop a player. It’s very hard for a young talent like this to bounce back from two disappointing innings like this. So another career ruined by poor selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artaxerxes View Post
    Karachi journalists are very influential. Abdullah Shafiq is technically good and talented.Danish has no talent.
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    2 good innings out of 8 matches and he is talented?

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    It isn't right to judge his skill with this tour. As a newbie you would want to be eased into Intl Cricket, not thrown in with pitbulls. Sometimes it works, mostly it doesn't, he should have played against Zim or atleast in the home series against SA and then selected for this tour. Now he will be dropped and if his replacement, Haider does well, then thats the last we hear of him


    If he bowls with a full sleeve and is an off-spinner, rest assured he chucks. Amen

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    Quote Originally Posted by redmaverik84 View Post
    It isn't right to judge his skill with this tour. As a newbie you would want to be eased into Intl Cricket, not thrown in with pitbulls. Sometimes it works, mostly it doesn't, he should have played against Zim or atleast in the home series against SA and then selected for this tour. Now he will be dropped and if his replacement, Haider does well, then thats the last we hear of him
    Good post. It's so tempting to say that team management does it deliberately to end a player's career. You just don't take a newbie to SENA when there are plenty of other opportunities to ease them in. Against poor teams they play the likes of Malik and Hafeez so they can cash on.

    All in all he looked very nervous and looked very slow to even move his bat. Should go back to domestic and improve his technique and average.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IAJ View Post
    Good post. It's so tempting to say that team management does it deliberately to end a player's career. You just don't take a newbie to SENA when there are plenty of other opportunities to ease them in. Against poor teams they play the likes of Malik and Hafeez so they can cash on.

    All in all he looked very nervous and looked very slow to even move his bat. Should go back to domestic and improve his technique and average.
    The critics or the selectors can always justify showing how the Indian newbies performed in Aus. But when you have a microscopic look at the Indians who performed, Gill/Shardul has been on A tours for years now, Sundar has played a lot of IPL and is just a special talent made for Test cricket batting, Natarajan was an aberration.

    I was just going through the squad, the others on tour haven't had much experience either. Shafique has been selected for the ODI having played just 1 List A match! I hope the same fate doesn't befall him.


    If he bowls with a full sleeve and is an off-spinner, rest assured he chucks. Amen

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    In the past every domestic squad had 2 or 3 top-class pacers, some even more at their disposal.

    Nowadays there is a distinct lack of out and put pace bowlers playing in domestic cricket in Pakistan.

    Danish has probably only seen the likes of Nortje, Rabada and Ngidi in his nightmares.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    In the past every domestic squad had 2 or 3 top-class pacers, some even more at their disposal.

    Nowadays there is a distinct lack of out and put pace bowlers playing in domestic cricket in Pakistan.

    Danish has probably only seen the likes of Nortje, Rabada and Ngidi in his nightmares.
    I believe conditions and the kind of bounce which he possibly only prepared for in practice is the main issue. Playing the likes of Nortje, Rabada and Ngidi could have been easier on surfaces where the bounce would have been which he is used to playing since the young age.

    He is a professional so definitely no excuse here but, I guess we all will agree that starting your career in familiar conditions is much easier than abroad.

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    Give him 3 or 100 matches, he simply doesn't have the technique to survive international cricket. Any half decent bowler will nail him down witn his weight always transfered forward.

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    Only PSL + QEA performerance should be looked at

    National T20 cup and Pakistan cup are really low quality tournaments

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    I feel sorry for the lad, he's been chucked into the deep end against Saffers, in there yard. He looks like a fish out of water, hopefully he has a good tour of Zimbabwe and we see what he's about.

    But like many Pakistan batsman, in the past and currently, are struggling against short pitch bowling and he is no different unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    In the past every domestic squad had 2 or 3 top-class pacers, some even more at their disposal.

    Nowadays there is a distinct lack of out and put pace bowlers playing in domestic cricket in Pakistan.

    Danish has probably only seen the likes of Nortje, Rabada and Ngidi in his nightmares.
    I think there are still many bowlers in Pakistan who are faster than Rabada and Ngidi at least. The main problem is the bounce, Pakistani or SC batsmen in general are not used to ball flying pass their nose all the time. And Danish simply doesn't have the required technique for these conditions.


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    Sub-continental teams struggle in New Zealand.There is lots of seam movement and good bounce which is SC players are not used to.The SA pitches for the first 2 ODIs were not like typical NZ pitches.

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    I think he needs to go back to domestic. Let's be honest, his stats weren't even that good to earn a callup for Pakistan in the ODI team in the first place. He's young, so he has some time to improve. At best, he could end up being a second-hand Shoaib Malik, decent batting and average bowling.

    He is yet another batsman who can't handle short-pitched bowling, and going to SENA conditions, he is almost always going to be a walking wicket.

    The lack of batting options in the middle order is being exposed now. Even if Haris Sohail was here, we all know about his own struggles with short-pitched bowling, so it wouldn't have helped either way.

    Faheem and Shadab haven't developed into reliable ODI batsmen, so there's a questionmark present there as well.

    Imad is probably the only solid batting all-rounder on this team, so he needs to be brought back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sohailmm View Post
    This is only reason which I can see for the selection of Danish and Sarfaraz, they have some disillusion of entitlement that they deserve special treatment because they are victim of negligence (which I never really get to understand ).
    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    Then he must be on Karachi's quota .
    Then I guess Shafique and Rauf are on Lahore/Punjab quota considering they have done literally nothing in domestic cricket. Danish Aziz at least averaged in the 70s in the National T20s and has a overall decent List A record.


    TBH I also think Aziz was picked too early but its ridiculous that some people think there is some sort of Karachi quota and it is weird that anytime a Karachi player doesn't perform, this mythical quota is brought up. Why aren't regional quotas blamed for the likes Rauf and Asif Ali?

    Do you think Fawad Alam, Tabish Khan and Asim Kamal would have rotted away in domestic cricket if there was a "Karachi quota"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAJ View Post
    I think there are still many bowlers in Pakistan who are faster than Rabada and Ngidi at least. The main problem is the bounce, Pakistani or SC batsmen in general are not used to ball flying pass their nose all the time. And Danish simply doesn't have the required technique for these conditions.
    I think there are still many bowlers in Pakistan who are faster than Rabada and Ngidi at least
    I'd be interested to know who you think falls into this category and is playing regularly in domestic cricket where Danish would have faced them.



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    I believe conditions and the kind of bounce which he possibly only prepared for in practice is the main issue. Playing the likes of Nortje, Rabada and Ngidi could have been easier on surfaces where the bounce would have been which he is used to playing since the young age.
    That's what I said in one of the other threads.

    Common sense would dictate that if you are going to play the lad in South Africa, then give him the chance to play against them in home conditions so that he can size them up and build some confidence against them in familiar conditions.



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    Extremely tough to make debut against that bowling on their home turf.

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    Media reports saying Danish and Asif will be dropped for the next game


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Media reports saying Danish and Asif will be dropped for the next game
    Alhamdolillah. Finally they see the light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Generico View Post
    Then I guess Shafique and Rauf are on Lahore/Punjab quota considering they have done literally nothing in domestic cricket. Danish Aziz at least averaged in the 70s in the National T20s and has a overall decent List A record.


    TBH I also think Aziz was picked too early but its ridiculous that some people think there is some sort of Karachi quota and it is weird that anytime a Karachi player doesn't perform, this mythical quota is brought up. Why aren't regional quotas blamed for the likes Rauf and Asif Ali?

    Do you think Fawad Alam, Tabish Khan and Asim Kamal would have rotted away in domestic cricket if there was a "Karachi quota"?
    Asif Ali is selected based on the friendship quota, not the regional quota

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    As terrible as Danish has been he should not be dropped. You would have thought the management would have done their homework to pick him. If he’s dropped after 2 games then the whole logic of selecting him is flawed.

    Asif should rightly be dropped, considering he has consistently failed in international cricket and had no merit of a come back.

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    Danish is a hack ... not at all surprised the selectors pick a hack instead of a proper batsman

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    Quote Originally Posted by zacattakk View Post
    Asif Ali is selected based on the friendship quota, not the regional quota


    Or perhaps the Islamabad United quota



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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Media reports saying Danish and Asif will be dropped for the next game
    Understandable but hopefully he is not written off. He should get the full T20 series considering that is his strongest format.

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    If the reports are correct, I think its a bit harsh. I would have given him the third game to see if he can do something vs a weaker SA bowling attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concerned View Post
    As terrible as Danish has been he should not be dropped. You would have thought the management would have done their homework to pick him. If he’s dropped after 2 games then the whole logic of selecting him is flawed.

    Asif should rightly be dropped, considering he has consistently failed in international cricket and had no merit of a come back.
    I agree with you and i would not drop danish to

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Generico View Post
    Understandable but hopefully he is not written off. He should get the full T20 series considering that is his strongest format.
    He proberly wont get the t20 games now

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    I hope danish is given the third game agsinst a weeker opposition i would replace haider with asif ali and shadab with nawaz

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    International Cricket is not his Cup of tea.
    Should try his luck in some other field...

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Generico View Post
    Understandable but hopefully he is not written off. He should get the full T20 series considering that is his strongest format.
    Strongest format but only in gully mohalla leagues

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    Club level cricketer. He makes Asif Ali look decent that's how bad he is.


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