Sohail Speaks Yasir's Blog Fazeer's Focus

User Tag List

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 81 to 119 of 119
  1. #81
    Debut
    Dec 2010
    Venue
    Dubai, UAE
    Runs
    915
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ethan hunt View Post
    What about the middle order today.
    How is that middle order preperation for the world cup. Yes they may win today but seriously how is that an international quality middle order.
    this is not the way to prepare for the WC obviously. Anybody can be lucky once in a while.

  2. #82
    Debut
    Aug 2009
    Runs
    2,469
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ethan hunt View Post
    What about the middle order today.
    How is that middle order preperation for the world cup. Yes they may win today but seriously how is that an international quality middle order.
    Shocking selection, you take 2 batsmen with you who don't get a game and instead you play a second wicketkeeper and a second allrounder.

  3. #83
    Debut
    Dec 2011
    Runs
    1,571
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Shows the lack of vision and no desire to build a team. These are just stop fill gap arrangements which may work today but will be detrimental to the team in long run. We are easily 2 batsmen short and unacceptable.

  4. #84
    Debut
    Oct 2013
    Venue
    Karachi
    Runs
    6,883
    Mentioned
    512 Post(s)
    Tagged
    5 Thread(s)
    Joke of a middle order. Haris Sohail and Umar Akmal both should be playing at no. 5 and no.6 respectively.

    After witnessing these greats batting in the middle, lower middle order its safe to say Umar Akmal is clearly the best option we have.

  5. #85
    Debut
    May 2015
    Venue
    The Capital Wasteland
    Runs
    21,842
    Mentioned
    580 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    This is the worst middle order I’ve ever seen


    Hard to get a handle on this double edged sword

  6. #86
    Debut
    May 2015
    Venue
    The Capital Wasteland
    Runs
    21,842
    Mentioned
    580 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Good to see it getting exposed


    Hard to get a handle on this double edged sword

  7. #87
    Debut
    Aug 2009
    Runs
    2,469
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    This is what happens when you play 3 batsmen, should have been a 340+ score and now we might only get 300.

  8. #88
    Debut
    Mar 2004
    Venue
    Manchester, UK
    Runs
    106,684
    Mentioned
    673 Post(s)
    Tagged
    4 Thread(s)
    Team selection all series has been shameful and pathetic. Selection players simply not good enough or going back to TTFs is not helping team at all.

  9. #89
    Debut
    Mar 2017
    Runs
    210
    Mentioned
    32 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Misbahís solution to our middle order woes was to not have one at all today.

  10. #90
    Debut
    Jan 2009
    Runs
    15,937
    Mentioned
    20 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    And i thought the 2nd odis middle order was horrid...

    When are we going to play some proper batsmen that can bat in that position

  11. #91
    Debut
    Jun 2001
    Venue
    UK
    Runs
    81,889
    Mentioned
    2157 Post(s)
    Tagged
    27 Thread(s)
    The weird thing is they have Haider and Abdullah Shafiq in the squad yet neither have been given a chance, yet they've played 2 wicket-keepers and weak all-rounders in the middle-order.



  12. #92
    Debut
    Nov 2020
    Runs
    1,646
    Mentioned
    13 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Bring Haris Sohail into the team and you have perhaps the best possible batting lineup.

  13. #93
    Debut
    Mar 2004
    Venue
    Manchester, UK
    Runs
    106,684
    Mentioned
    673 Post(s)
    Tagged
    4 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    The weird thing is they have Haider and Abdullah Shafiq in the squad yet neither have been given a chance, yet they've played 2 wicket-keepers and weak all-rounders in the middle-order.
    You wonder who is calling shots on selection here as its been pretty pathetic all series, no game plans, no goal to build a solid ODI team.

  14. #94
    Debut
    Oct 2010
    Runs
    29,935
    Mentioned
    453 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ethan hunt View Post
    What about the middle order today.
    How is that middle order preperation for the world cup. Yes they may win today but seriously how is that an international quality middle order.
    Waqar and Misbah have really made some joke of a decisions. It's not a professional approach. It looks like they have zero vision. Zero thinking.

  15. #95
    Debut
    Oct 2010
    Runs
    29,935
    Mentioned
    453 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    We will get thrashed by England, Aus, NZ if we play with such a mediocre middle order.

  16. #96
    Debut
    Jan 2009
    Runs
    15,937
    Mentioned
    20 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Id lik to ask the thick tank what they are thinking doing this?

    Surely this series shouldve been an opportunity to induct the likes of haider and abdullah

    Instead weve wasted these opportunities and are no closer to knowing who should bat at 5 and 6

  17. #97
    Debut
    Mar 2004
    Venue
    Manchester, UK
    Runs
    106,684
    Mentioned
    673 Post(s)
    Tagged
    4 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    The weird thing is they have Haider and Abdullah Shafiq in the squad yet neither have been given a chance, yet they've played 2 wicket-keepers and weak all-rounders in the middle-order.
    Players like this should be groomed over next 2 years so they are ready for world cup. Instead we pick TTFs like sirfraz and nawaz

  18. #98
    Debut
    Feb 2012
    Venue
    Mississauga, Canada
    Runs
    30,717
    Mentioned
    1041 Post(s)
    Tagged
    7 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    The weird thing is they have Haider and Abdullah Shafiq in the squad yet neither have been given a chance, yet they've played 2 wicket-keepers and weak all-rounders in the middle-order.
    I like Misbah and Younis but there is no excusing this.

    5) Danish
    6) Asif
    7) Shadab

    And

    5) Sarfaraz
    6) Faheem
    7) Nawaz

    Have to be two of the worst middle-orders of all time. Giving Danish another go was preferable to bringing back Sarfaraz.


    لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله

  19. #99
    Debut
    Feb 2019
    Runs
    8,862
    Mentioned
    50 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by UzmanBeast View Post
    Bring Haris Sohail into the team and you have perhaps the best possible batting lineup.
    If saud is fit then play him.

  20. #100
    Debut
    Jan 2009
    Runs
    15,937
    Mentioned
    20 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    I like Misbah and Younis but there is no excusing this.

    5) Danish
    6) Asif
    7) Shadab

    And

    5) Sarfaraz
    6) Faheem
    7) Nawaz

    Have to be two of the worst middle-orders of all time. Giving Danish another go was preferable to bringing back Sarfaraz.
    Agree If your not gonna play haider id rather have played danish again than going bsck to sarfraz which serves no purpose in the long run

    Its a backward short sighted decision Very poor We should be looking at developing a future no 5 not this


  21. #101
    Debut
    Feb 2019
    Runs
    8,862
    Mentioned
    50 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Haider ali should have played insteaf of sarfraz

    Danish should have been given the third game azwell
    Last edited by sweep_shot; 8th April 2021 at 06:11.

  22. #102
    Debut
    Mar 2004
    Venue
    Manchester, UK
    Runs
    106,684
    Mentioned
    673 Post(s)
    Tagged
    4 Thread(s)

    PCB - Learn lessons from 2019 WC (Middle order batting is important)

    The 2023 world cup is 2 years away but once again when it comes to building a batting line up pakistans plans are non existant. Am sure a few months before the WC panic will set in and some tried and tested will be shovled into middle order as pakistan simply havent taken time to groom players. Players need to be exposed and tested in pressure situations to see if they can bail there team out of trouble or cash in on a good start something which didnt happen in recent SA series.

    Look at the WC semi finalist - Aus and Ind both thems were so dependant on their respective top 3s getting most of the runs that come the time they failed the middle order was both undercooked and underperformed and both teams went out. Am sure both these teams will be smart enough to adress these problems.

    Same with Pakistan its deprndant on top 4 scoring most of runs and yet there is no clue to what composition is there after. Is it mean to be pure batsmen who can take the game deep? Is it power hitters that can do damage? Or is it just bit and pieces players and hoping for best.

    Englands and NZs sucess was built on deciding on a brand of cricket identifying players for middle order and stick with it. Not panicing every other game and just changing middle order combos and hoping for the best.

    Pakistan has 2 years now to groom middle order players and get the experience built up so players are ready for pressure situations. Sadly with same poor people in charge in and around the team since 2011 the team will be left looking cluess again when our top 3 or 4 fail in games and middle order cant bail us out.

  23. #103
    Debut
    Aug 2013
    Venue
    place
    Runs
    14,230
    Mentioned
    958 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Middle order batting isnt an issue.

    Rizwan is there and we need to add one more player.

    Issue is the lower order batting. No.6 batsmen is needed and it needs to be someone thay could strike the ball or finish the innings. We struglled in the world cup due to this

    The tail is with hasan ali, faheem.

    Get a good no.6 batsmen and the issue gets solved.


    "Life is Pain"
    ~House~

  24. #104
    Debut
    Aug 2010
    Runs
    713
    Mentioned
    22 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    Middle order batting isnt an issue.

    Rizwan is there and we need to add one more player.

    Issue is the lower order batting. No.6 batsmen is needed and it needs to be someone thay could strike the ball or finish the innings. We struglled in the world cup due to this

    The tail is with hasan ali, faheem.

    Get a good no.6 batsmen and the issue gets solved.
    Iím sorry but Rizwan alone doesnít solve this. Our middle order is pretty much non existent and the runs have to come from the top and middle order with the lower order batting being a bonus. We need to massively strengthen our numbers 5 and 6.

  25. #105
    Debut
    Jan 2006
    Runs
    30,086
    Mentioned
    314 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    Middle order batting isnt an issue.

    Rizwan is there and we need to add one more player.

    Issue is the lower order batting. No.6 batsmen is needed and it needs to be someone thay could strike the ball or finish the innings. We struglled in the world cup due to this

    The tail is with hasan ali, faheem.

    Get a good no.6 batsmen and the issue gets solved.
    Amazing insight Einstein. Rizwan who can’t buy a run in the middle order is the solution...


    "The Indian bowling attack is as devastating as the Teletubbies"- Sir Ian Botham

  26. #106
    Debut
    Oct 2014
    Runs
    8,067
    Mentioned
    60 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    Middle order batting isnt an issue.

    Rizwan is there and we need to add one more player.

    Issue is the lower order batting. No.6 batsmen is needed and it needs to be someone thay could strike the ball or finish the innings. We struglled in the world cup due to this

    The tail is with hasan ali, faheem.

    Get a good no.6 batsmen and the issue gets solved.
    Rizwan is not a middle order batsman... find a proper batsman in the middle order just like Babar..

    Rizwan at best can bat at no.6 or as an opener.

    If pakistan rely on rizwan then they are digging a big hole for themselves

    Even dhoni bat at no.6 or 5 .. Rizwan is not sangakkara , even sanga batted at no.5 and 6 early into his career

  27. #107
    Debut
    Jan 2013
    Runs
    711
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Rizwan can only bat in top 4...he doesnt have the game to bat at nos 5 or 6.

    If we end up selecting players like we did in the past, accumulators, we wont be passing 270-280 any time soon.

  28. #108
    Debut
    Nov 2005
    Venue
    England
    Runs
    22,271
    Mentioned
    562 Post(s)
    Tagged
    5 Thread(s)
    Don't look back, it hasn't worked for us and never will. We have a bizzare obsession with poor, well known players and every time we fail, some fans and the selectors going back to their comfort zone. So the likes of Hafeez, UA, Haris and Shazad are never going to take PK above anything other than mediocrity. Normally any player worth his salt marks his mark within 3 years. These guys have been playing for aclose to a decade, and Hafeezs case close to 2.

    The 3 we need to invest are HA, who we know can hit a long ball, Saud( who we know very little about) but looked decent in QA trophy and my left field selection is Mubshir. Now all 3 may be useless and if they are, then try another 3 and keep looking.

  29. #109
    Debut
    Jan 2013
    Runs
    711
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Whats all the fuss?

    Just play 9 players, problem solved!

  30. #110
    Debut
    Oct 2012
    Venue
    Faisalabad.
    Runs
    5,787
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ami View Post
    Whats all the fuss?

    Just play 9 players, problem solved!
    We are doing that for all practical uses and purposes, other two are just to add up numbers and make it XI which is legal obligation.

  31. #111
    Debut
    Aug 2013
    Venue
    place
    Runs
    14,230
    Mentioned
    958 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by enigmatic_stani View Post
    I’m sorry but Rizwan alone doesn’t solve this. Our middle order is pretty much non existent and the runs have to come from the top and middle order with the lower order batting being a bonus. We need to massively strengthen our numbers 5 and 6.
    Rizwan is good enough middle order batsmen. Onoy thing needed is someone at no.5.

    Finding a middle order batsmen is non issue. All you habe to do is give a chance to the right person.

    Issue is finding a finisher. There is no one who could finish an innings


    "Life is Pain"
    ~House~

  32. #112
    Debut
    Aug 2013
    Venue
    place
    Runs
    14,230
    Mentioned
    958 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ask_analyse_act View Post
    Rizwan is not a middle order batsman... find a proper batsman in the middle order just like Babar..

    Rizwan at best can bat at no.6 or as an opener.

    If pakistan rely on rizwan then they are digging a big hole for themselves

    Even dhoni bat at no.6 or 5 .. Rizwan is not sangakkara , even sanga batted at no.5 and 6 early into his career
    Rizwan is not an opener. T20 opening and one day opening are two different things.

    Rizwan is good enough at no.4 bring in a no.5 and we are good.

    Our main problem is a no.6 finisher


    "Life is Pain"
    ~House~

  33. #113
    Debut
    Feb 2019
    Runs
    8,862
    Mentioned
    50 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by enigmatic_stani View Post
    Iím sorry but Rizwan alone doesnít solve this. Our middle order is pretty much non existent and the runs have to come from the top and middle order with the lower order batting being a bonus. We need to massively strengthen our numbers 5 and 6.
    Saud was injuired if he was fit he would gave batted at 4 and Rizwan would have batted at 5

  34. #114
    Debut
    Feb 2019
    Runs
    8,862
    Mentioned
    50 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Don't look back, it hasn't worked for us and never will. We have a bizzare obsession with poor, well known players and every time we fail, some fans and the selectors going back to their comfort zone. So the likes of Hafeez, UA, Haris and Shazad are never going to take PK above anything other than mediocrity. Normally any player worth his salt marks his mark within 3 years. These guys have been playing for aclose to a decade, and Hafeezs case close to 2.

    The 3 we need to invest are HA, who we know can hit a long ball, Saud( who we know very little about) but looked decent in QA trophy and my left field selection is Mubshir. Now all 3 may be useless and if they are, then try another 3 and keep looking.
    If you have seen saud bat he is quality best batter and should be batting at 4.as for mubasir 1 more season in domestic would be good

  35. #115
    Debut
    Feb 2019
    Runs
    8,862
    Mentioned
    50 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    Rizwan is not an opener. T20 opening and one day opening are two different things.

    Rizwan is good enough at no.4 bring in a no.5 and we are good.

    Our main problem is a no.6 finisher
    Drop Rizwan to 5 and play saud at 4 and haider at 6

  36. #116
    Debut
    Feb 2019
    Runs
    8,862
    Mentioned
    50 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    When saud is fit he should bat at 4 rizwan at 5 and haider ali at 6

  37. #117
    Debut
    Nov 2005
    Venue
    England
    Runs
    22,271
    Mentioned
    562 Post(s)
    Tagged
    5 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    If you have seen saud bat he is quality best batter and should be batting at 4.as for mubasir 1 more season in domestic would be good
    The step up to International cricket is huge. Lets see if he has it.

  38. #118
    Debut
    Feb 2019
    Runs
    8,862
    Mentioned
    50 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    The step up to International cricket is huge. Lets see if he has it.
    It is huge but when you have played domestic for couple of years and performing really well it should be slightly easier and he should get a longer run due to this

  39. #119
    Debut
    Oct 2014
    Runs
    8,067
    Mentioned
    60 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    Rizwan is not an opener. T20 opening and one day opening are two different things.

    Rizwan is good enough at no.4 bring in a no.5 and we are good.

    Our main problem is a no.6 finisher

    Both opening and and at no.4 is not his forte, but he manages to open somehow in 20-20s but will struggle opening in the ODIs against two new balls against the quality bowling attack.

    Again emphasis that no.4 and 5 are crucial batting position which Rizwan cannot fill in. He will keep struggling against top teams and thus lose his place as a keeper which he is fine with.


Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •