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    [VIDEOS] Mohammad Abbas commits to stay at Hampshire until at least the end of the 2024 season

    Pakistan seam bowler Mohammad Abbas will join Hampshire as an overseas signing for the first two months of the 2021 County Championship season.

    Right-armer Abbas, 30, is expected to line up alongside Kyle Abbott as the county's other overseas recruit.

    Abbas has previously played for Leicestershire but had to cancel plans to join Nottinghamshire after last season was delayed by coronavirus.

    He has taken 84 wickets in 23 Tests for Pakistan since his debut in April 2017.

    "We're delighted to sign Mo, he's done extremely well in county cricket before and knows the workload required and will suit the conditions really well," director of cricket Giles White told BBC Radio Solent.

    "It's a mouth-watering prospect having him and Kyle [Abbott] bowling together. We hope they'll form a formidable partnership and get us off to a good start."

    Hampshire will review the possibility of extending Abbas' contract once they know what division of the revamped County Championship they have qualified for when it begins its second stage in August.

    Abbas featured for Pakistan in two Tests at the Ageas Bowl last season during their series against England.

    His Test career best figures of 5-33 came against Australia in Abu Dhabi in October 2018.
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    Abbas is a typical county bowler. Nibbles it around on a length all day long. I’ve often said , and this is true of all L&L seamers, they are only really effective as part of a tight bowling attack. On their own they can be easily seen off and runs picked off at the other end. So let’s see how he goes bowling alongside abbot.

    Two things, and these are much more important than fortuitous wickets is how Abbas counters the batsman standing out of his crease and how he is able to threaten the outside edge. Of course there is also the issue with the old ball. Once the seam is flat he’s only half the bowler though the Dukes ball will give him some advantage and this will look favourably on his performance. The real test in national colours will be with a kookaburra ball.

    So lots to look forward to. Wish him all the best. He really needs to learn to contribute a little with the bat. Even Jimmy Anderson has been in positions where he’s been required to hold up an end to salvage a draw.

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    Abbas doing his thing for Leicestershire vs Hampshire

    12 overs, 7 maidens, 17 runs and 1 wicket so far.


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    Good time of the year for him to be bowling in the UK.

    It's going to be interesting to see if this County stint can help him get back into the Pakistan set-up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Good time of the year for him to be bowling in the UK.

    It's going to be interesting to see if this County stint can help him get back into the Pakistan set-up.
    Have you forgot how useless he becomes after 3 overs? NZ tailenders were scoring centuries for fun against him.

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    Abbas so far

    1st Innings:

    15 overs, 7 Maidens, 27 runs and 1 wicket

    2nd Innings (so far):

    6 overs, 5 Maidens, 4 runs and no wickets


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Abbas so far

    1st Innings:

    15 overs, 7 Maidens, 27 runs and 1 wicket

    2nd Innings (so far):

    6 overs, 5 Maidens, 4 runs and no wickets
    Abbas in the 2nd innings so far:

    12 overs, 8 maidens, 26 runs, 1 wicket

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    Hattrick for Abbas.

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    5 wickets in his first 17 balls so far!

    Stream for those that want to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT_hcbtvbxw

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    5 for 3 from his first 4 overs.


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    Abbas taking out his frustration of being dropped from the test team

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    Please earn your bread through county cricket.. even the NZ tailenders were smashing ur 119mph pies, only good for first 3 overs in international cricket.

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    Mohammad Abbas 6/11 so far - amazing for a red-ball game


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    Good on him. Hope he's discovered some pace again. Would love to see him back in the Test team if he can consistently bowl 130-135kph like he did when he first came into the side

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    Middlesex bowled out for 79.

    Mohammad Abbas 11-6-11-6

    Nice symmetry to that.

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    I dont think hes bowling any faster than before from the looks of the video

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    Yup for any future in international cricket you have to be atleast 130kph plus otherwise no matter how good you are, you are useless at international level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    6th Wicket here



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    Quote Originally Posted by AAli98 View Post
    Please earn your bread through county cricket.. even the NZ tailenders were smashing ur 119mph pies, only good for first 3 overs in international cricket.
    Why the obsession with pace? Did McGrath bowl fast?
    How many Pakistan bowlers are currently playing in county cricket other than Abbas in the longer version of the game? None. So he must be good and there is a reason Hampshire selected him. He is still the best test bowler that Pakistan has. He keeps the scoring low, thereby building up pressure on the batters and allows the strike bowlers on the other end to pick up more wickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shah View Post
    Why the obsession with pace? Did McGrath bowl fast?
    How many Pakistan bowlers are currently playing in county cricket other than Abbas in the longer version of the game? None. So he must be good and there is a reason Hampshire selected him. He is still the best test bowler that Pakistan has. He keeps the scoring low, thereby building up pressure on the batters and allows the strike bowlers on the other end to pick up more wickets.
    He is the strike bowler

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    McGrath was 135/140kph with bounce/seam
    Abbas 119mph bouncing twice to the keeper is easily negated in international cricket!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Good time of the year for him to be bowling in the UK.

    It's going to be interesting to see if this County stint can help him get back into the Pakistan set-up.
    Ideal conditions for Abbas.

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    Abbas is very accurate and if the pitch offers little help he is difficult to handle.His pace has gone done after the shoulder injury.If can increase his pace to around 130kph he will even more dangerous.On
    flat pitches the pace is too low to worry batsmen.

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    The fascination with pace with some fans continues to irritate and confuse me.

    If anyone watched him play vs England/NEW Zealand etc you'd see he bowled well w/o luck.

    Instead we get 'fans' look at stats and conclude their opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    The fascination with pace with some fans continues to irritate and confuse me.

    If anyone watched him play vs England/NEW Zealand etc you'd see he bowled well w/o luck.

    Instead we get 'fans' look at stats and conclude their opinions.
    Totally agree.

    Abbas is still one of my favourite Pak bowlers, sure his form dipped recently but he def should be considered again given his overall record and the impact he is having now.

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    A thing people don't understand is that Abbas is indeed bowling way slower than McGrath or Asif.
    No one is criticizing him for not bowling 150kph. We are criticizing him for not even being able to hit 130kph regularly anymore.
    McGrath at his peak was a lot quicker than people think. His max speed was 145kph (as documented on cricinfo). He generally bowled 125-135kph and used his height and accuracy. But he could 140kph+ when he wanted to. You can see him bowling 137-138 kph regularly in the 2003 World Cup.

    Mohammad Asif himself was also quicker than people think. In 2005-06 I remember him bowling 138kph often. As late as 2010 in England he hit 140kph. His fastest recorded ball in international cricket is also close to 145kph.
    (Jimmy Anderson as well when he first came on to the scene has a fastest ball of 145kph. )
    Abbas when he broke on to the international scene in 2017 was bowling 130-135 regularly and I remember him hitting 138-140kph a few times in the West Indies.

    Since then he has lost two yards of pace. In New Zealand he was genuinely struggling to bowl over 125kph. His fastest ball New Zealand was 132kph.
    He had way too many deliveries under 125kph and his average pace was a good 5mph below what the likes of Asif, McGrath, Anderson have.

    Bowling at 123 kph will still get Abbas wickets in county cricket, But he will be treated as a trundler in international cricket. He's completely useless on most pitches with his current speed. Even if Pakistan played a test in England, Abbas would only be dangerous with the new ball for the first 5-6 overs. Then batsmen would negate him. Just like in New Zealand where Abbas bowled many maiden overs and beat the batsmen a few times, but never actually took wickets.

    He can't play international cricket anymore until he gets back to bowling at an average pace of 133kph regularly like he was doing when he first arrived in 2017. Average pace of 123kph like he is now won't threaten anyone at the top level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shah View Post
    Why the obsession with pace? Did McGrath bowl fast?
    How many Pakistan bowlers are currently playing in county cricket other than Abbas in the longer version of the game? None. So he must be good and there is a reason Hampshire selected him. He is still the best test bowler that Pakistan has. He keeps the scoring low, thereby building up pressure on the batters and allows the strike bowlers on the other end to pick up more wickets.
    Mcgrath didnt bowl at 75mph

    Look He has skills but they arent going to be effective as has been shown at 75mph because batsmen as they have done will now stand outside the crease to him

    The stats show it all Since players took guard a metre down the wicket hes been avging 40s

    Hes not gonna be effective anymore at the intnl level if he cant peg the batsman back in their crease


    If pakistan cricket is to move forward they need to stop going back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shah View Post
    Why the obsession with pace? Did McGrath bowl fast?
    How many Pakistan bowlers are currently playing in county cricket other than Abbas in the longer version of the game? None. So he must be good and there is a reason Hampshire selected him. He is still the best test bowler that Pakistan has. He keeps the scoring low, thereby building up pressure on the batters and allows the strike bowlers on the other end to pick up more wickets.
    Look , why do you go to extremes to make your point? Nobody is saying abbas needs to bowl 140k. But 120kph is too slow. McGrath was very tall and good with the old ball plus had amazing stamina and could bowl all day long. That’s three attributes Abbass doesn’t have.

    But if he get his speed up to 130 ish then at least batsmen won’t stand outside the crease to him and negate his seam. We can’t make him taller to get disconcerting bounce but he can improve his fitness and utility with a 10 over old ball.

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    If he wants to reignite his international career then he has to ball @ 130kph minimum as 115-20 is only good for county & other suitable conditions

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    Batsmen just need to bat outside the crease to negate Abbas. It is embarrassing for a wicket keeper to then stand up to the stumps for a pace bowler.

    I don’t see him being effective in international cricket unless he can get to his old speeds again.

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    Pakistani seamer Mohammad Abbas picked up five wickets in just 13 balls, including a hat-trick, to destroy Middlesex in just his second match for English county side, Hampshire.

    After Hampshire posted 319 in the match at the Ageas Bowl, Abbas struck with his fifth, sixth and seventh balls of the match to secure a hat-trick, destroying Middlesex's top order.

    The right-armer, currently out of favour with Pakistan selectors, then picked up two more wickets in his third over to have figures of 5-3 and leave the visitors reeling at 5-14 just before the lunch break.

    Abbas took his sixth wicket after the interval and finished with figures of 6-11 from 11 overs, including six maidens, as Middlesex were bowled out for just 79.

    Hampshire then slumped to 2-2 in reply before former Victoria allrounder Ian Holland and Sam Northeast put on an unbeaten 202-run stand to take their side to 2-204 at stumps, a lead of 444.

    Abbas famously destroyed Australia in their Test series in the UAE in 2018, taking 17 wickets in just two Tests.

    I took two wickets and before I bowled for my third wicket I realised Ramadan is going on and that is lucky for us, and Friday is a day that is lucky for me," he said, adding he is not currently fasting for the Islamic holy month.

    "I have played here before when I was with Pakistan and the pitch had something in it for me, and I bowled on point in the right areas.”

    His performance on Friday of five wickets in 13 balls fell just shy of the all-time record for the fastest five-wicket haul; Surrey's Ryan Patel took five wickets in 11 balls against Somerset in 2018 while Jacques Kallis took five in 12 deliveries in a Test against Bangladesh in 2002.

    From the start of his spell, Abbas completed his five-wicket haul in just 17 balls.

    For context, Stuart Broad's famous Ashes spell against Australia at Trent Bridge in 2015 saw him take five wickets in his first 19 balls, equalling the Test record first set by Australian Ernie Toshack against India in 1947.

    Remarkably, Abbas is the third Hampshire bowler in four seasons to take a hat-trick after James Fuller (2020) and Kyle Abbott (2018).

    https://www.cricket.com.au/news/matc...nty/2021-04-17
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    Economy is useless in test cricket, we don't need Zulfiqar babars. Id rather Hasan Ali goes for 4-5 runs per over but picks up 4-5 wickets for 90 runs in the innings rather than Abbas impact less 0-70 in 30 overs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    The fascination with pace with some fans continues to irritate and confuse me.

    If anyone watched him play vs England/NEW Zealand etc you'd see he bowled well w/o luck.

    Instead we get 'fans' look at stats and conclude their opinions.
    No he didn't.

    Step outside the crease and his bowling average is in the hundreds.

    Tailenders played him with so much ease, he only landed it in the off stump channel consistently but apart from that he was practically useless.

    The only reason tailenders and almost all batsmen can step out to him is because his pace is trundling in the 110kph range, so it's almost like facing well-directed spin more than pace.

    Secondly, he doesn't swing the ball, his whole game is built upon seam movement of which there isn't much in the subcontinent nowadays.

    The likes of Southee bowl only marginally quicker than him, but they can swing the ball hence batsmen won't take the risk of stepping out to a guy like Southee.

    Unless Abbas brings his pace back up to where it was (around 130kph in 2018 if I remember correctly), that's the only way he has a chance of surviving in international cricket.

    Furthermore, he needs to also improve his fielding and fitness, both aren't really at the top mark.

    He's an intelligent bowler, but if batsmen can step outside the crease and destroy his entire bowling style, he's not fit for the international level regardless of how well he does against these low-level county teams.

    I don't even think any player on that county team did their research and stood outside the crease. Had they done that, Abbas would have been rendered useless as harsh as it may seem.

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    7 wickets in the match now for Abbas.


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    Asking Abbas to gain 2-3 yards of pace is unneccesary. He is '31' now. His career is past his peak and it's over for him in international cricket.

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    2 wickets from Abbas so far in the second innings





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    People want him to be like Asif, but he's like Philander, easily a second bowler in test lineup, on favoring conditions he'll get you wickets provided he gets his length right, on not so favoring he'll keep the batsman in check, he'll fare well with fast Abbott at other end.

    Those going about his pace are forgetting Philander bowled with same speeds and is successful bowler even in Australian conditions, and why didnt world best batsmen tried coming forward to Philander? Abbas could be out of rythm needed to get his lengths right. Yes in non favorable conditions bowlers like Abbas and Philander can be tackled by coming forward but still they keep batsman in check.

    With Shaheen bowling wicket taking jaffas at 145 + at other end, Abbas fares well as second bowler even in non favorable conditions, what we lacked is good third bowler, not the fault of Abbas, and if conditions suit him, he can be nightmare. Just like Steyn Philander Morkel trio

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    People want him to be like Asif, but he's like Philander, easily a second bowler in test lineup, on favoring conditions he'll run through the lineup provided he gets his length right, on not so favoring he'll keep the batsman in check, if batsman makes a mistake, loses concentration, plays rash shot, he'll fare well with fast Abbott at other end. He's a bowler who's consistent in his line and length, hard to find such bowlers in Pakistan.

    Those going about his pace are forgetting Philander bowled with same speeds and is successful bowler even in Australian conditions, and why didnt world best batsmen tried coming forward to Philander? Abbas could be out of rythm needed to get his lengths right. Yes in non favorable conditions bowlers like Abbas and Philander can be tackled by coming forward but still they keep batsman in check. Some people are mistaking him for Great Mcgrath or even Asif who could be next Mcgrath, but he's more like Vernon Philander or Tim Murtagh both successful, Pak needs a bowler like him.

    With Shaheen bowling wicket taking jaffas at 145 + at other end, Abbas fares well as second bowler even in non favorable conditions, what we lacked is good third bowler, not the fault of Abbas, and if conditions suit him, he can be nightmare. Just like Steyn Philander Morkel trio

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    15 overs 3 for 36 at the moment versus Gloucestershire.


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    4/39 now for Mohammad Abbas



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    Abbas finished the innings with 4/41 from 19 overs, allowing Hampshire to enforce the follow-on.

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    Abbas, Shaheen and Hasan surely the pace attack for Windies Tests?

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    Really hope he can get his form back, we don't have any good fast bowlers in our test squad atm. Only 2 decent SSA & Hassan Ali.

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    If he continues to perform I expect him to make the next test squad.

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    Mohammad Abbas for Hampshire vs Somerset

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    No more wickets for Abbas so far today, 1/29 off 17 overs.

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    Mohammad Abbas ends up with 2/86 in 31 overs after Somerset are bowled out for 336, Hampshire trail by 257 runs


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    Mohammad Abbas playing for Hants vs Middlesex today - no wickets as of yet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    If he continues to perform I expect him to make the next test squad.
    Will be ineffective unless he can hit consistently over 80mph again in internationals.

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    Abbas has taken 2 wickets now so a better day for him





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    Not even the best metronome in Hampshire's attack
    Abbott is just as accurate but taller and quicker


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    One more for Abbas - he now has 3/36



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    Mohammad Abbas ends up at 3/46 in 21 overs as Middlesex are bowled out for 172.


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    A one dimensional overcast conditions bully that was exposed at the international level is good enough to boost hampshire’s god awful resources on a monumental level

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    A one dimensional overcast conditions bully that was exposed at the international level is good enough to boost hampshire’s god awful resources on a monumental level
    Have you seen his record in the UAE? Not many clouds over here...

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    Mohammad Abbas has taken 2/14 in 6 overs so far.




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    Abbas with 3/24 in 10 overs as Middlesex are bowled out for 101 in their second innings, 66 needed to win


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    Hampshire win by 7 wickets.

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    good stats, but its in helpful conditions. test batsmen are good enough to stand out the crease to him which negates a lot of his potency.

    still should be in the pak squad for WI, would be a good option in the squad.

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    Abbas should feel aggrieved about being dropped for an over-the-hill bowler such as Tabish Khan. Abbas had not bowled brilliantly over the course of the last 18 months, however, it's still a bit embarrassing for Mohammad Wasim to prefer a 36 year-old rookie with a middling first-class record over the past 2 years instead. There is no justification to select Tabish over Abbas for any of the upcoming series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreePalestine View Post
    Have you seen his record in the UAE? Not many clouds over here...
    Fair, but he was fairly new to international cricket then. He has fizzled out right now at the highest level, batsman have worked him out, there is no space for dibbly dobbly millitary medium bowlers in int cricket, would you have him playing for Pakistan again ? his level is most fitting at Hampshire imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Not even the best metronome in Hampshire's attack
    Abbott is just as accurate but taller and quicker
    Kyle abbot could have been a really solid bowler for SA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Monetarist View Post
    Abbas should feel aggrieved about being dropped for an over-the-hill bowler such as Tabish Khan. Abbas had not bowled brilliantly over the course of the last 18 months, however, it's still a bit embarrassing for Mohammad Wasim to prefer a 36 year-old rookie with a middling first-class record over the past 2 years instead. There is no justification to select Tabish over Abbas for any of the upcoming series.
    Abbas had been so poor and completely ineffective, and bowling at an embarrassing 120kph, that he had deserved to be dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom View Post
    Kyle abbot could have been a really solid bowler for SA
    Yes he could have. But the thing is he was a superior version of philander too and Steyn/Rabada/Morkel offered something more in terms of pace and bounce, so it was always going to be between Philander and Abbott and with SA's quota policy , Abbott would have lost out.

    Abbott and Harmer have been the biggest mistakes by CSA imo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zacattakk View Post
    Abbas had been so poor and completely ineffective, and bowling at an embarrassing 120kph, that he had deserved to be dropped.
    That’s just total horse crap, Abbas wasn’t poor. He just wasnt getting the wickets because he was at times a bit unlucky but also the batsman have out of his crease to negate his seam movement.

    Where I do agree is his pace is a bit down, at Test level you want to hit 80MPH.

    For me he’s a horses for courses bowler, if the conditions allow then he should be in the squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Monetarist View Post
    Abbas should feel aggrieved about being dropped for an over-the-hill bowler such as Tabish Khan. Abbas had not bowled brilliantly over the course of the last 18 months, however, it's still a bit embarrassing for Mohammad Wasim to prefer a 36 year-old rookie with a middling first-class record over the past 2 years instead. There is no justification to select Tabish over Abbas for any of the upcoming series.
    I think in the long run it may be good for him. Perhaps he worked on his weak areas. I do agree that he was better than tabish

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    In an ideal world, Pakistan would be moving on from Abbas for good. He is almost 40 years old, he is probably the slowest “pacer” in the world, he contributes nothing with the bat and in the field and he is easily negotiated by the batsmen who step out of the crease.

    However, considering the lack of talent in Pakistan where nothing bowlers like Naseem, Hasnain, Rauf and Musa are touted as the future of Pakistan pace bowling, it won’t be surprising if Abbas makes a comeback in the near future.

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    2/5 in 5 overs for Abbas

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    Mohammad Abbas has now left for Pakistan to take part in the 26-player High Performance Camp ahead of the Test series against West Indies


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Mohammad Abbas has now left for Pakistan to take part in the 26-player High Performance Camp ahead of the Test series against West Indies
    Will he travel to England with the team or will directly land in West indies, that way he'll catch two county matches in beginning of July. Will test squad also travel to England due to charter plane issues?

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