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    Is banning TLP the right decision?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gharib Aadmi View Post
    While i am no fan of the Mullahs, i dont see how the government can legally ban TLP. And it seems risky even if they can. These parties should participate, and hopefully lose in democratic elections. If you ban them from participating in elections, they might go for an armed revolution. And unlike Deobandis barelvis are the majority in Pakistan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigboii View Post
    It's a catch 101 for IK and can't blame the guy too much

    but yeah banning especially on terrorism charges is a little extreme

    Should we ban lawyers union after the lawyer movement?- they did similar things and there are multiple examples of similar riots in Pak history
    We didn't ban thier organization did we?

    Seems unlawful imo or at least there's a lack of consistentcy...
    I think this is an interesting conversation and something that should look at

    Cause rn we are emotional and everyone wants these thugs to be out of sight asap

    But will it cause damage in the long run?

    Is it in the spirit of democracy? - I don't think it is

    State should have handled it by bringing charges against the "individuals" commiting the crimes not the whole organization

    What do you y'all think? (Preferably a non emotional response...)

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    this is pakistan, theres no such thing as charges.

    most of the suicide bombings post mush were done by extremists who were convicted then let off.


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    Poll added.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigboii View Post
    My response


    I think this is an interesting conversation and something that should look at

    Cause rn we are emotional and everyone wants these thugs to be out of sight asap

    But will it cause damage in the long run?

    Is it in the spirit of democracy? - I don't think it is

    State should have handled it by bringing charges against the "individuals" commiting the crimes not the whole organization

    What do you y'all think? (Preferably a non emotional response...)
    This is an outsider perspective(that too of an Indian Australian), so take it with a pinch of salt.

    I read through the TLP's history as I had never heard of them before. Got to know about them with those horrific visuals.
    They want to dictate foreign policy, like Kicking out the French Ambassador, and instead of relying on fighting that issue on the ballot, they went on rampage and destroyed public property, had beaten police officials.
    This is an act of a terrorism, and the writ of the state has to be enforced.

    Sending French Ambassador back will have huge implications for Pakistan.. Geopolitically, Financially.
    But, if they had won an election with that mandate, and gone through the democratic process, then that was Democracy at work.

    Else, sorry, they need to be banned for their dangerous ideology for their country and the harm it can cause.
    IK took a right decision in this case.

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    The Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority (PEMRA) on Thursday banned coverage by all television and radio licensees of the proscribed Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP).

    PEMRA's notification followed one by the Ministry of Interior which declared the TLP a banned organisation for engaging in acts of terrorism, and acting in a manner prejudicial to the peace and security of the country over the course of its recent three-day long nationwide protests.

    The notice by PEMRA said that Regulation 18(h) of PEMRA (Television Broadcast Station Operation) Regulation, 2012 and Clause 16 of Electronic Media Code of Conduct, 2015 requires that programmes conform to the laws of the country.

    "Moreover, Clause 3 (3) of Electronic Media Code of Conduct, 2015 prohibits media coverage to proscribed organisations," it stated.



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    Quote Originally Posted by hoshiarpurexpress View Post
    This is an outsider perspective(that too of an Indian Australian), so take it with a pinch of salt.

    I read through the TLP's history as I had never heard of them before. Got to know about them with those horrific visuals.
    They want to dictate foreign policy, like Kicking out the French Ambassador, and instead of relying on fighting that issue on the ballot, they went on rampage and destroyed public property, had beaten police officials.
    This is an act of a terrorism, and the writ of the state has to be enforced.

    Sending French Ambassador back will have huge implications for Pakistan.. Geopolitically, Financially.
    But, if they had won an election with that mandate, and gone through the democratic process, then that was Democracy at work.

    Else, sorry, they need to be banned for their dangerous ideology for their country and the harm it can cause.
    IK took a right decision in this case.
    The Mullahs come from the same society as the rest of the Pakistanis. When the PML N government was trying to privatize PIA, the unions came on the street starting destroying public property attacked security. Same things that political parties, lawyers, etc do when they dont like something. Entire society does it. That doesn't mean its ok. You need to arrest the people who did that but ban seems drastic.

    Their needs to be a middle ground between appeasing them, and banning them.

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    Only time will tell.

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    Terrorists, ****, looters and criminals in the guise of so called religious men. These outfits should all be banned and censured and criminalized. Nobody should be beyond the law and allowed to get away with murder and destruction.

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    I think it's the right move. A major reason behind a lot of our issues is that state has not been able to stamp it's authority enough. And the good thing is that a strong civilian leader is exercising his authority so the narrative of oppressive military regime cannot be built here.

    Moreover, barelvis aren't known for hardcore violence so an armed rebellion is out of question. TLP supporters will go back to supporting PML N and that will be a problem for PTI in next elections. That is why IK deserves even more credit.

    TLP's comparison with unions and public movements (lawyers) is not valid. A political party should act far more responsibly. Only MQM can be compared with this kind of regular thugry and even they have been cut down.

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    The violence and threats made the banning inevitable. Its a brave decision by Kaptaan because Maulvis in our society are pretty much untouchable. Look at a lifetime loser like Diesel and how many billions he has made by using religion. I think its time his band of crooks are also outlawed for using children as sacrificial lambs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenstorm View Post
    I think it's the right move. A major reason behind a lot of our issues is that state has not been able to stamp it's authority enough. And the good thing is that a strong civilian leader is exercising his authority so the narrative of oppressive military regime cannot be built here.

    Moreover, barelvis aren't known for hardcore violence so an armed rebellion is out of question. TLP supporters will go back to supporting PML N and that will be a problem for PTI in next elections. That is why IK deserves even more credit.

    TLP's comparison with unions and public movements (lawyers) is not valid. A political party should act far more responsibly. Only MQM can be compared with this kind of regular thugry and even they have been cut down.
    Is that why the Nooras are courting them so hard?

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    Any groups which reguarly break the law, cause violence and disruption should be banned.

    Imran Khan cant win with some, if he doesnt do anything he's called a supporter of such people, if he does, hes's called a dictator.


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    You can’t really ban extremism and some how it is eradicated.

    You can only educate people, which means giving them the ability to question their belief system and think critically.

    A trait not visible at any level of Pakistani society.

    Be it the so-called “liberals” or the so-called “Mullah Brigade”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirris View Post
    You can’t really ban extremism and some how it is eradicated.

    You can only educate people, which means giving them the ability to question their belief system and think critically.

    A trait not visible at any level of Pakistani society.

    Be it the so-called “liberals” or the so-called “Mullah Brigade”.
    Extreme is an opinon based judgement, so cant be banned.

    Bans can come in play when groups break the law or cause violence,disruption. Many groups in the UK are banned because of this such as far rights to religious groups.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gharib Aadmi View Post
    The Mullahs come from the same society as the rest of the Pakistanis. When the PML N government was trying to privatize PIA, the unions came on the street starting destroying public property attacked security. Same things that political parties, lawyers, etc do when they dont like something. Entire society does it. That doesn't mean its ok. You need to arrest the people who did that but ban seems drastic.

    Their needs to be a middle ground between appeasing them, and banning them.
    Good points raised here. In the SC protests do seem to have an element of vandalism about them so I can see why there needs to be some form of clamp down on the disruptive element. But this sort of enforcement needs to be made across the board rather than banning individual organisations. If the TLP needs banning, then it should be banned regardless of the protests. Can't really hold them acccountable for a certain type of protesting if Pakistan is allowing other organisations to do the same.


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    If causing so much violence , causing deaths and torturing policemen is not terrorism , then what is terrorism. There is nothing wrong with dealing these terrorist with iron hand.

    You cannot watch a cancer spreading.

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    The federal cabinet on Tuesday approved the formation of a committee to review an application of the Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP), seeking reversal of the government’s ban on the party imposed earlier this year.

    Briefing journalists after the cabinet meeting, chaired by Prime Minister Imran Khan, Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry said that the ministers also approved special procedure for the Chinese nationals working on the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) projects.

    The government banned the TLP, following violent protests by the outfit in which some policemen were martyred while several others sustained injuries. The TLP had sought expulsion of the French ambassador from Pakistan over publication of blasphemous cartoons in a Paris weekly.

    Chaudhry said the cabinet approved the formation of a committee to review the TLP’s application for lifting of ban on it. “After reviewing the application, the committee would present its recommendations to the cabinet,” Chaudhry added.

    Chaudhry said that the cabinet also approved special procedure for all Chines citizens associated with the CPEC-related projects or those who wanted to bring investment to the country. The Chinese citizens will get two-year work-entry visa by the Pakistani mission in China within 48 hours while the security clearance would “certainly be completed” within 30 days, he said.

    “Separate immigration counters will be set up for CPEC business-visa holders just like a special counter is set up for green-channel visa holders,” he said. “Separate desks will also be set up at the interior ministry and the Pakistani mission in China to consider all the CPEC-related applications.”

    Under the CPEC category, the information minister said, the cabinet also approved the establishment of a separate sub-category for work business visa. “The purpose of these decisions is to facilitate Chinese citizens and those related with CPEC projects,” he said.

    According to the minister, giving voting rights to the overseas Pakistanis was an important part of the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf’s (PTI) electoral reforms agenda .He urged the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) to take immediate steps to bring them into the electoral process. The cabinet also approved holding of cantonment board elections.

    Information Minister Chaudhry told reporters that journalists associations, different press clubs as well as the bar associations had expressed their willingness to hold their respective elections by using electronic voting machines (EVMs).

    The cabinet appreciated the government’s economic team for steering the country towards stability despite the challenge posed by Covid-19 and the flawed policies of the previous regimes. In addition, the ministers decided to send medical aid and medicines to Bosnia to fight against Covid-19.


    Paperless meeting

    The information minister informed reporters that the cabinet meeting on Tuesday was the first ever ministerial huddle in the country’s history, which was paperless – which means that all the information during the meeting were shared digitally.

    “Today’s cabinet meeting was the first paperless meeting in the history of Pakistan,” Chaudhry told reporters. He also said that most number of the cabinet meetings in the history of Pakistan were held during the tenure of the present government.

    Giving a comparison with the previous governments, the minister said that there had been 226 cabinet meetings since 2008 – 67 cabinet meetings under the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) government and 23 cabinet meetings under the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) government from May 5, 2013 to June 30, 2016.

    Commenting about opposition parties, the minister said that they had the right to do politics but none of them would be able to revive the Pakistan Democratic Movement (PDM), especially in view of the internal rifts and lack of ideology.


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    The Lahore High Court (LHC) on Friday declared the second detention of proscribed Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) chief Saad Rizvi illegal and ordered his release.

    Justice Tariq Saleem Sheikh heard the plea by Rizvi's counsel, which had made the federal and provincial governments, the chief secretary, home secretary, inspector general police and others respondents in the case.

    According to the petitioner's counsel, Rizvi, following his detention, was named in 14 different cases. He added that the review board of LHC had refused to extend the TLP chief's detention.

    He claimed in court that his client's party was a purely religious organisation and had nothing to do with the country's politics. However, he maintained, the government arrested several leaders of the party on a political basis and put them in detention over threat to public peace.

    The counsel said Rizvi was produced before the review board of LHC after three months in prison but the board did not extend his detention.

    The counsel prayed upon the court to declare the detention illegal, and restrain the government from arresting the TLP chief in other cases. Subsequently, the court declared Rizvi's detention illegal and ordered his release from jail.

    Saad is the son of the firebrand cleric and previous head of the TLP, Khadim Hussain Rizvi, who died in November last year.

    He was arrested after TLP's central council warned the government that if it did not expel the French ambassador from the country, they would march towards Islamabad.

    The banned outfit called off its violent protests after the federal government tabled a resolution in parliament to debate the French ambassador's expulsion.


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    On the one hand it feels wrong that these criminals, who killed innocent people will get off Scott free but if we don't talk to them, how do end the violence

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    Federal Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid said on Thursday that the French ambassador cannot be expelled from Pakistan at the request of the proscribed Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP).

    The interior minister’s remarks came a day after the organisation's members staged protests for the release of party chief Saad Rizvi, as well as against 'arrests' of fellow party members.

    He was addressing police passing out parade ceremony wherein he calmed that no one was a ‘greater soldier of defending finality of Prophet (PBUH) than him’.

    On April 23, lawmakers during the National Assembly session were divided on a resolution presented by the government on the issue of Namoos-e-Risalat and expelling the French envoy over the publication of blasphemous caricatures in his country.

    The treasury and opposition benches were unable to amicably discuss the contents of the resolution, and the deputy speaker prorogued the session for an indefinite period.

    The minister further stated that, “Expelling the French ambassador means pulling oneself out of the European Union. Whether it is the TLP or PDM, neither should do anything to take the law in their own hands,”he warned.

    Regarding the opposition’s protest against the sitting government, Rashid added that they had been doing so for the last three years, adding that the law will take its course if they try to take it into their own hands.

    “I'm glad the PDM chose my city [Rawalpindi],” the interior minister said. “If they protest with great enthusiasm and do not take the law into their own hands, there will be no problem. If they spread anarchy, they thy will be digging a grave for themselves.”

    He added that Prime Minister Imran Khan was keeping a keen eye on every problem and that the people were wrong to believe otherwise.

    “New alliances will emerge as soon as the elections come near,” he said. “The divide between the PML-N is obvious. Even the US is aware of it,” he added.

    Earlier, the interior minister alleged that the United States was also aware of the two factions – ‘N’ and ‘S’ – of the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz, saying that because of such a reason the US envoy had separate meetings with both the leaders.

    Rashid, who is known for his prophecies in political affairs, was referring to the recent meetings of US Charge d’ Affaires to Pakistan Angela Aggeler with PML-N President Shehbaz Sharif and PML-N Vice President Maryam Nawaz.

    The US envoy had separately called on the two leaders and discussed national and regional development – including the Afghanistan situation. Such meetings had apparently shown discord in one of the major opposition parties of the country.

    “The US charge d’ affaires also knows that ‘N’ and ‘S’ are separate. That’s why the envoy had separate meetings with them [Shehbaz and Maryam],” Rashid told reporters on Wednesday after an event at the Girls’ College in Rawalpindi.

    “There will be a new alignment of the PML-N before the general elections,” he said, “The PML-N will be in three groups before the elections.”


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    The banned Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) on Thursday announced a long march towards the federal capital Islamabad on Friday (today), which, according to a spokesperson, would start after Friday prayers.

    The banned TLP demands of the government to fulfil its promise made to it a few months ago. The main demand of the party is the expulsion of the French ambassador to Pakistan. However, Interior Minister Sheikh RAshid said on Thursday the government could not expel the ambassador at TLP’s demand.

    On Tuesday, the banned TLP announced that it would turn its main Eid-e-Miladun Nabi rally in Lahore into a protest sit-in and urged the government to ensure implementation of the agreement reached with the party in the past.

    The TLP had given the government two days to fulfil the promises, saying that if the agreement reached in April was not fulfilled, the next course of action would be announced on Thursday evening.

    Meanwhile, the banned TLP continued it sit-ins in different cities of the country on Thursday. The Punjab government is on alert in case the situation deteriorates and has further issued a security alert at all entry and exit points of Lahore.

    A large presence of law enforcement personnel has been reported around the Yateem Khana Chowk. Roads from Kali Kothi, Iqbal Town, Scheme Moor, Sodiwal, Niazi Ada, and Samanabad have been sealed with barbed wire and containers.


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    The Punjab government on Friday formed a two-member committee to negotiate with the banned Tehreek-e-Labbiak Pakistan (TLP) ahead of the party's long march to the federal capital.

    Punjab Law Minister Raja Basharat and Prosecution Minister Chaudhry Zaheeruddin will lead the provincial government's efforts to hold talks with the proscribed party, announced provincial chief minister Usman Buzdar.

    Security in the twin cities has been placed on high alert with major highways, including the Murree Road, sealed with containers and barricades in an effort to deal with the TLP's planned march from Lahore to Islamabad.

    The proscribed party had called for a march to the federal capital after Friday prayers.

    In Rawalpindi, link roads from Marir chowk to the Faizabad Interchange and Murree Road to the inner city have been closed for traffic, while roads from Shamsabad and Faizabad to Islamabad have been completely sealed by containers.

    The expressway from Islamabad, however, was being kept open for traffic in the morning.

    Heavy contingents of law enforcement personnel have been deployed at major intersections and at metro stations to deal with any untoward incidents.

    As a result of road closures, citizens commuting to schools, colleges and workplaces faced severe difficulties.

    According to a spokesperson for the Islamabad City Traffic Police (CTP), Park Road, Tramri chowk, and Lehtar Road could be used as an alternate route to reach Islamabad Highway. Srinagar Highway, while Ninth Avenue, and IJP Road can be used to reach Rawalpindi.

    “Additional traffic police personnel have been deployed at High Court chowk, Kachehri, and Mall Road to maintain the flow of traffic. However, citizens should avoid unnecessary travel to Islamabad to avoid trouble,” the CTP spokesperson said.

    The TLP demands of the government to fulfil its promise made to it a few months ago. The main demand of the party is the expulsion of the French ambassador to Pakistan. However, Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid said on Thursday the government could not expel the ambassador on TLP’s demand.

    On Tuesday, the banned TLP announced that it would turn its main Eid-e-Miladun Nabi rally in Lahore into a protest sit-in and urged the government to ensure implementation of the agreement reached with the party in the past.


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    This what happens when the govt and army back them. The same group came back to bite PTI.


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    banning TLP is definitely wrong; another stupid decision of Imran Khan

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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    banning TLP is definitely wrong; another stupid decision of Imran Khan
    Meanwhile, according to a statement issued by the Punjab Chief Minister Usman Buzdar three policemen died in the clashes.

    He offered condolences to the families of martyrs and directed officials to take stern action against the culprits.

    The Punjab government on Friday also formed a two-member committee to negotiate with the banned group ahead of the party's long march towards the federal capital.

    Police fired teargas after the TLP supporters attacked a police checkpoint, police spokesperson Arif Rana said.

    They had clashed with the police at several places in the city, he added.

    "They had assured us that they will remain peaceful but they turned violent," he told Reuters.

    The two of the three deceased were identified as police Head Constable Ayub and Constable Khalid Javed.

    The proscribed TLP is demanding the government to fulfil its promise made to it a few months ago. The key demand of the party is the expulsion of the French ambassador to Pakistan and to release its detained leader Saad Rizvi.

    However, Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid said on Thursday the government could not expel the ambassador at TLP’s demand.

    The provincial government is on alert in case the situation deteriorates and has further issued a security alert at all entry and exit points of Lahore.

    The main arteries to and from Lahore and Islamabad are blocked with shipping containers to prevent demonstrators from reaching the city centre.

    Internet services suspension

    Meanwhile, the Ministry of Interior has directed Pakistan Telecommunication Authority (PTA) to block internet services in Data Sahib, Shahdara and New and Old Ravi Bridge areas of the provincial capital to maintain law and order.

    The federal interior ministry also directed the PTA to take “further necessary action” in this regard in coordination with the Punjab Home Department.


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    This is what happens when you spend your whole term appeasing terrorists and when the PM says that TLP and him are ideologically similar.

    Imran spent almost four years appeasing the TLP but now they are marching for his head. Appeasement is never the answer. The government was not serious about dealing with the TLP; despite being banned, the extremist outfit contested all elections held in the last six months.

    Till we get rid of the scourge of mullahs, we can never prosper and progress. We cannot expect international companies to invest in Pakistan when almost every month there is a day when mullahs run amok!

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    Federal Minister for Interior Sheikh Rashid on Saturday abandoned his two-day visit to Dubai and returned to Pakistan in the wake of worsening security situation in the country amid violent clashes between the banned Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) protesters and the Punjab police.

    Rashid had left for the United Arab Emirates (UAE) to watch a cricket match between India and Pakistan. Both archrivals will face each other at the T20 World Cup in Dubai on Sunday at 7 pm.

    In spite of protests by the banned TLP seeking the release of their chief Saad Rizvi and expulsion of French envoy, Rashid had taken a two-day leave from PM Imran Khan to watch the cricket match.

    He, however, was directed by the premier to skip the match and return to handle the situation.

    Meanwhile, the security situation in Lahore and Rawalpindi remains tense due to clashes between the religious outfit's members and law enforcement personnel.

    These clashes have resulted in the death of three policemen and two Labbaik workers, as per confirmed reports.

    'Curfew-like situation'

    In Rawalpindi, a curfew-like situation was witnessed as authorities concerned placed containers and other obstacles on various routes, including Murree Road, leading towards Islamabad to stop the protesters from reaching the federal capital.

    The district administration has also deployed heavy contingents of police along Murree Road, which has been completely sealed from Marir Chowk to Faizabad Interchange.

    Schools, offices, and markets are closed in the vicinity of the main artery that connects Pindi to Islamabad, while residents of the area have been stranded due to the blockades.

    Read TLP activists storm police station in Lahore

    The Metro Bus service and public transport have been suspended as the violent protests entered the second day. Rangers have taken control of the metro tracks to keep the TLP workers at bay.

    In Lahore, the provincial capital of Punjab and the starting point of the TLP march, clashes between the banned TLP and police have left at least five people, including three cops, dead since Friday. The number of the injured is reportedly in dozens.

    As per the latest reports, clashes have been ongoing near Batti Chowk. Rangers and police have been firing tear gas shells to disperse the crowd whereas the TLP workers are pelting stones at the paramilitary force and the police.

    The banned party also has a crane – its official election symbol – as part of its rally to remove the bloackades.

    In the light of the security situation, internet and mobile services have been suspended in Shahdara, Shafiqabad, Ravi Road, and Shahdara Town.

    Background

    On Tuesday, the banned TLP announced that it would turn its main Eid-e-Miladun Nabi rally in Lahore into a protest sit-in and urged the government to ensure implementation of the agreement reached with the party earlier this year.

    The TLP had given the government two days to fulfil the promises, saying that if the agreement reached in April was not fulfilled, the next course of action would be announced on Thursday evening. In the evening, it had announced a march on Islamabad as the government failed to fulfil its demands.

    The main demand of the party is the expulsion of the French ambassador to Pakistan. However, Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid said on Thursday the government could not expel the ambassador at TLP’s demand.

    'Talks failed'

    The Punjab government had formed a committee on Friday, comprising provincial Law Minister Raja Basharat and Prosecution Minister Chaudhry Zaheeruddin, for talks with the banned outfit.

    “We have formed a committee consisting of senior members of the Punjab cabinet Raja Basharat Sahib and Chaudhry Zaheeruddin Sahib to negotiate with Tehreek-e-Labbaik," Buzdar had said in a tweet. However, so far, the talks between the two sides have remained inconclusive.

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    On one hand you have imran khan backing and advocating afghan taliban a fully fledged militant force.

    And then he bans tlp a barelvi political party with no affiliation of carrying out terror attacks, military attacks or training or funding .

    The hypocrisy is staggering.

    Tlp is a threat to the elite since they have so much grass root support and since everything in pakistan has gone down the stinker with regard to governance the only think masses have is to cling on Allah aur rasool and that's the message tlp sound out loudly through these loudspeakers.

    Goverment and Charlie's are totally to blame that pakistan is now entering the realms of being a failed state .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazkhan View Post
    On one hand you have imran khan backing and advocating afghan taliban a fully fledged militant force.

    And then he bans tlp a barelvi political party with no affiliation of carrying out terror attacks, military attacks or training or funding .

    The hypocrisy is staggering.

    Tlp is a threat to the elite since they have so much grass root support and since everything in pakistan has gone down the stinker with regard to governance the only think masses have is to cling on Allah aur rasool and that's the message tlp sound out loudly through these loudspeakers.

    Goverment and Charlie's are totally to blame that pakistan is now entering the realms of being a failed state .
    Has PK been occupied by Foreigners?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    This what happens when the govt and army back them. The same group came back to bite PTI.
    Similar has happened in the past, but some people never learn from their mistakes.

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    Tlp have done a long march asking for khadim rizvis son to be released which has been sanctioned by a high Court.

    The foreign imposed imf goverment a political wing of the pakistan armed forces won't release him.

    Yet the hypocrisy is

    Imran khan hijacked the Islamabad for 126 days and stopped the Chinese President official visit to Pakistan. Which law permits only khan to do that and stops TLP even for a peaceful sit-in.

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    Thousands of supporters of the banned far-right Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) have departed the eastern Pakistan city of Lahore, clashing for a second straight day with police who lobbed tear gas shells into the crowd, a party spokesman and witnesses said.

    The group said on Saturday that five of its supporters have died in the clashes while at least two police officials were also killed.

    “Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan lost two people Friday night and three more today to police firing,” the party tweeted on Saturday.

    TLP members began their journey on Friday with the goal of reaching the capital, Islamabad, to pressure the government to release Saad Rizvi, the party’s head.

    Rizvi was arrested last year amid demonstrations against France over the publication of caricatures of Islam’s Prophet Muhammad.

    Police in Lahore would not comment on the claim, but on Friday night said two of its officers had died.

    “The clashes are still ongoing,” Rana Arif, a spokesman for Lahore police, told the AFP news agency. “This is a defensive operation by police against the mob … We are only doing shelling to control the crowd.”

    Pakistan had deployed police and paramilitary personnel to prevent the demonstrators from leaving Lahore. Authorities also suspended mobile phone service in parts of Lahore and blocked roads on Friday.

    The situation worsened when police tried to stop the rally-goers, witnesses said.

    The violence disrupted normal life in parts of Lahore, where residents were facing problems in reaching home because of the closure of some roads and continued clashes between police and TLP supporters.

    Lahore is located about 350km (210 miles) from Islamabad, and most of the rally-goers are walking, although they had arranged buses and cars to reach the capital in a convoy.

    Pakistan’s Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmad, who was in Dubai to watch Pakistan compete in cricket’s T20 World Cup, was ordered by Prime Minister Imran Khan to return and monitor the situation.

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    Federal Minister for Interior Sheikh Rashid has arrived in Lahore to lead government efforts for negotiations with the banned Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) after violent protests left more than five people dead in the provincial capital.

    The minister, who arrived on a special plane to the provincial capital to lead the dialogue with the TLP leadership, is chairing a high-level meeting to take stock of the situation in the wake of the bloody protests.

    The meeting is being attended by Religious Affairs Minister Noorul Haq Qadri, Kashmir Affairs Minister Ali Amin Gandapur, Punjab Law Minister Raja Basharat, the police chief of Punjab among other officials.

    During the meeting, the government is expected to take “important decisions” regarding the banned religious party. Provincial government officials will also brief Rashid on the security situation with respect to TLP.

    Earlier in the day, Rashid abandoned his two-day visit to Dubai and returned to Pakistan in the wake of the worsening security situation in the country amid violent clashes between the Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan protesters and the Punjab police.

    Rashid had left for the United Arab Emirates (UAE) to watch a cricket match between India and Pakistan. Both archrivals will face each other at the T20 World Cup in Dubai on Sunday at 7 pm.

    In spite of protests by the banned TLP seeking the release of their chief Saad Rizvi and expulsion of French envoy, Rashid had taken a two-day leave from PM Imran Khan to watch the cricket match.

    He, however, was directed by the premier to skip the match and return to handle the situation.

    Meanwhile, the security situation in Lahore and Rawalpindi remains tense due to clashes between the religious outfit's members and law enforcement personnel.

    The clashes have resulted in the death of three policemen and two Labbaik workers, as per confirmed reports.

    However, in a statement issued around noon, TLP leader Mufti Wazir Rizvi claimed that the Lahore police used tear gas on asleep party workers and also alleged that TLP workers came under 'straight firing' from the police.

    The police operation on Saturday has resulted in at least one fatality, he said, adding that the bodies of the deceased TLP men will accompany the banned outfit to Islamabad.

    In another statement, the TLP central committee said policemen will not be harmed during the protest despite all the "oppression".

    'Curfew-like situation'

    In Rawalpindi, a curfew-like situation was witnessed as authorities concerned placed containers and other obstacles on various routes, including Murree Road, leading towards Islamabad to stop the protesters from reaching the federal capital.

    The district administration has also deployed heavy contingents of police along Murree Road, which has been completely sealed from Marir Chowk to Faizabad Interchange.

    Schools, offices, and markets are closed in the vicinity of the main artery that connects Pindi to Islamabad, while residents of the area have been stranded due to the blockades.

    The Metro Bus service and public transport have been suspended as the violent protests entered the second day. Rangers have taken control of the metro tracks to keep the TLP workers at bay.

    In Lahore, the provincial capital of Punjab and the starting point of the TLP march, clashes between the banned TLP and police have left at least five people, including three cops, dead since Friday. The number of the injured is reportedly in dozens.

    As per the latest reports, clashes have been ongoing near Batti Chowk. Rangers and police have been firing tear gas shells to disperse the crowd whereas the TLP workers are pelting stones at the paramilitary force and the police.

    The banned party also has a crane – its official election symbol – as part of its rally to remove the blockades.

    In the light of the security situation, internet and mobile services have been suspended in Shahdara, Shafiqabad, Ravi Road, and Shahdara Town.

    Background

    On Tuesday, the banned TLP announced that it would turn its main Eid-e-Miladun Nabi rally in Lahore into a protest sit-in and urged the government to ensure implementation of the agreement reached with the party earlier this year.

    The TLP had given the government two days to fulfil the promises, saying that if the agreement reached in April was not fulfilled, the next course of action would be announced on Thursday evening. In the evening, it had announced a march on Islamabad as the government failed to fulfil its demands.

    The main demand of the party is the expulsion of the French ambassador to Pakistan. However, Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid said on Thursday the government could not expel the ambassador at TLP’s demand.

    'Talks failed'

    The Punjab government had formed a committee on Friday, comprising provincial Law Minister Raja Basharat and Prosecution Minister Chaudhry Zaheeruddin, for talks with the banned outfit.

    “We have formed a committee consisting of senior members of the Punjab cabinet Raja Basharat Sahib and Chaudhry Zaheeruddin Sahib to negotiate with Tehreek-e-Labbaik," Buzdar had said in a tweet. However, so far, the talks between the two sides have remained inconclusive.

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    Talks between a government team and Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) chief Hafiz Saad Hussain Rizvi at Lahore’s Kot Lakhpat could not achieve any breakthrough on Saturday night, as the protesters left Lahore to start their long march on the federal capital.

    The government’s negotiating team was formed to take stock of the situation in the wake of violent protests in Lahore the other day, and amicably resolve the situation.

    The government decided to hold talks with the TLP chief in an attempt to muster his support for calling off the protest and the planned long march on Islamabad, officials of the interior ministry revealed. However, the two sides failed to make any headway in the talks to resolve the stand-off till midnight.

    Earlier on Saturday, a high-level meeting was held at the Punjab Safe City Authority in Lahore to review the situation in the wake of the violent protests in which at least two policemen were martyred and scores of others were injured. The TLP claimed its seven workers died and dozens sustained injuries.

    In the meeting, Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid decided that a government committee, also including Federal Religious Affairs Minister Pir Noorul Haq Qadir and provincial ministers along with others, would visit Kot Lakhpat Jail and hold talks with Rizvi.

    Rashid, who reached Lahore after abandoning his Dubai trip, was briefed by the Qadri, Kashmir Affairs Minister Ali Amin Gandapur, Punjab Law Minister Raja Basharat, the Punjab police chief and other officials about the overall situation and the talks that were already held with the TLP leadership. The interior minister also met with religious scholars to seek their support for normalising the situation.

    The interior ministry said that negotiations remained under way at Kot Lakhpat Jail for a few hours but no headway was achieved as both the sides were not ready to back off from their stance. The TLP said that Rizvi refused to hold talks with the government negotiators.

    In a statement, the TLP said that the long march would continue until Rizvi comes on the stage and announces to call it off. The statement asked the party workers that they should pay attention only to the announcement made from the rally’s stage.

    The statement added that the rally had reached Muridke and after taking rest overnight, it would resume its march towards its destination – Faizabad Interchange, located between the twin cities of Rawalpindi and Islamabad – on Sunday morning.

    Rashid to lead govt efforts for negotiations with TLP

    The decision to meet the TLP chief came after supporters of the TLP went on a rampage and managed to remove the containers and other barriers to get out of Lahore’s limits and start marching towards Islamabad.

    Seeing that the containers and other barriers didn’t work, the interior ministry officials confirmed that the authorities concerned ordered for digging up a trench near Gujranwala to prevent the protesters from coming to the capital.

    The protestors are demanding the release of their chief and expulsion of French envoy. Rizvi was arrested in April after he had threatened a long march to Islamabad if the French ambassador was not deported.Security heightened in Islamabad

    Meanwhile, in the twin cities, a curfew-like situation was witnessed as authorities concerned placed containers and other obstacles on various routes, including Murree Road, leading towards Islamabad, to stop the protesters from reaching the federal capital.

    The district administration has also deployed heavy contingents of police along Murree Road, which has been sealed from Marir Chowk to Faizabad Interchange. The local administration and police have been provided with 500 Rangers and 1,000 Frontier Constabulary personnel to prevent the march on the capital.

    The capital’s administration also issued a traffic alert and instructed the citizens to adopt alternative routes to stay safe and avoid any trouble. Schools, offices, and markets remained closed in the vicinity of the main artery that connects Rawalpindi to Islamabad, while residents of the area were stranded due to the blockades. The Metro Bus service and public transport were also suspended and Rangers took control of the metro tracks.

    On the other hand, all roads in Lahore were opened for traffic on Saturday evening after the TLP protesters moved outside the city’s limits on their way to Islamabad. Lahore Deputy Commissioner Umer

    Sher Chattha said that all roads in the city were open for traffic and the Metro bus service had partially resumed from Gajju Matta to Mao College.

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    ISLAMABAD: Interior Minister Sheikh Rasheed Ahmad Sunday said that talks between the government and the banned outfit Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) after they threatened to march towards Islamabad have been successful.

    A day earlier, the Opposition parties and the proscribed outfit had staged separate protests in multiple cities of the country, resulting in Islamabad, Lahore and Rawalpindi being partially shut down.

    Talking to journalists, the interior minister said that all the roads, which had been closed earlier to stop the protesters from marching towards Islamabad, will be reopened for traffic gradually.

    The TLP protesters will not move forward [to Islamabad] and will stay in Muridke till Tuesday, he added.

    After reviewing their demands, the issue will be resolved peacefully by Tuesday, said the interior minister.

    Minister for Religious Affairs Pir Noorul Haq Qadri, meanwhile, said that the issue will be resolved through mutual understanding. He maintained that the concerned authorities have been directed that there should be no clash between the police and the protesters.

    A day earlier, Prime Minister Imran Khan had directed federal and provincial ministers to hold negotiations with TLP after they threatened to march towards Islamabad.

    Prime Minister Imran Khan had held a telephonic conversation with Qadri to discuss the prevailing law and order situation.

    On the directives of the prime minister, Qadri had arrived in Lahore from Karachi to hold negotiations with the banned outfit's leadership.

    The government’s negotiation team comprised Rahsieed, Qadri and Punjab Law Minister Muhammad Raja Basharat.

    The PM had also directed the interior minister to return to the country from the UAE, where he had gone to watch India-Pakistan's high-voltage T20 World Cup clash.

    Trench dug on GT Road
    On Saturday, the government had dug up a trench on GT Road near Gujranwala in response to an announcement by TLP that they will set out on a long march towards Islamabad.

    A deep and long pit was dug with the help of cranes while the roads were also blocked in advance by placing containers. Thus, all paths via road leading to and from Gujranwala were blocked.

    Meanwhile, a procession by the banned outfit, the participants of which began marching from Lahore, had reached Sadoke.

    The banned outfit had announced a "peaceful protest" on Friday after jummah prayers to demand the release of their leader Saad Rizvi.

    Why was Saad Rizvi arrested?
    Rizvi was taken into custody shortly after the federal government had declared the TLP a proscribed organisation under anti-terrorism laws and launched a broad crackdown against the party.

    The action came after days of violent protests and traffic disruptions in the largest cities of Pakistan, which saw public and private property being damaged by gangs of hooligans bearing sticks and turning on law enforcement officials at will.

    Speaking on the move, Prime Minister Imran Khan had explained that his government had taken action against the banned TLP because it "challenged the writ of the state and used street violence, attacking the public and law enforcers".

    Two policemen were martyred in Lahore Friday night after a couple of cars collided during a protest by the banned outfit. Clashes between police and members of the outlawed outfit also resulted in over 40 cops getting injured.

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    ISLAMABAD: A day after successful negotiations between the government and banned outfit Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP), as many as 350 TLP activists have been released from various jails in Punjab, Interior Minister Sheikh Rasheed Ahmad confirmed Sunday.

    The Punjab police had launched a province-wide crackdown against the banned outfit after the group had announced a long march towards Islamabad last week and arrested many of its workers and leaders.

    In a statement, the interior minister urged the protesters to clear both sides of the Muridke road for traffic, as per an understanding reached between the two sides a day earlier.

    'Talks with banned outfit were successful'

    Interior Minister Sheikh Rasheed Ahmad Sunday had said that talks between the government and banned outfit TLP, after they threatened to march towards Islamabad, had been successful.

    Talking to journalists, the interior minister had said that all the roads, which had been closed earlier to stop the protesters from marching towards Islamabad, will be reopened for traffic gradually.

    The TLP protesters will not move forward [to Islamabad] and will stay in Muridke till Tuesday, he added.

    Giving details of the government's talks with the leadership of TLP, the interior minister revealed that the government will withdraw cases registered against the activists of TLP till Wednesday.

    “The negotiators of the proscribed organization will visit the Interior Ministry on Monday at 10am [to hold a second round of talks],” said Rasheed.

    It was decided that the cases against those named in the Fourth Schedule will not be taken back, the minister added.

    “I held a one-on-one meeting with Saad Hussain Rizvi,” he said, adding that the government will take up the issue relating to the expulsion of France’s ambassador to the National Assembly.

    Terming the activists of TLP as “political workers”, the minister said that the government did not want to clash with religious groups.

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    Another protest, another capitulation by the government. Every time, they allow these hooligans to dictate their own terms and make the state seem powerless. Shameful, an utter embarrassment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinnegan Sasuke View Post
    Another protest, another capitulation by the government. Every time, they allow these hooligans to dictate their own terms and make the state seem powerless. Shameful, an utter embarrassment.
    So what do you suggest. State craft isn't a video game. You have to weigh up situations. On this case we have the spectre of a new terror campaign against the nation using these right wingers as Cover. We have increased threats from everywhere both economic and military. There are problems everywhere. So why create another one? Unfortunately the state is simply not strong enough to handle another problem. So you look at the least worse option. There are no good ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Great Khan View Post
    So what do you suggest. State craft isn't a video game. You have to weigh up situations. On this case we have the spectre of a new terror campaign against the nation using these right wingers as Cover. We have increased threats from everywhere both economic and military. There are problems everywhere. So why create another one? Unfortunately the state is simply not strong enough to handle another problem. So you look at the least worse option. There are no good ones.
    What about the monster we are creating every time we wilt under these goons? It makes the state look weak, and gives the tlp more confidence to further demand their extremist agenda.

    Why send in the police? Just so that a few cops can sacrifice their lives in vain every year? Because that is what this has become.

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    The Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) on Tuesday announced that it would continue to march towards the federal capital after the government decided against giving any concession to the religious outfit.
    Earlier in the day, Prime Minister Imran Khan chaired a meeting at Bani Gala wherein it was decided not to give any leeway to the TLP.

    The meeting was attended by army chief Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa, Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid, Federal Religious Affairs Minister Noorul Haq Qadri, Punjab Chief Minister Usman Bazdar and the province’s chief secretary among others.

    The premier was briefed on the negotiations with the TLP. It was decided that further talks with the religious outfit would be held only if ended its protest march, which was currently in Muridke.

    Rashid, who was leading the team negotiating with the TLP, said at a news conference later in the day that that the government had “no reservations” over any of the demands put forward by the religious outfit except for the shutting down of the French embassy and expulsion of its ambassador.

    “It was decided [during the meeting] that this demand cannot be accepted.”

    He warned that accepting this demand would have consequences.

    “As Pakistan is the biggest nuclear force among Muslim countries, conspiracies are being hatched to impose sanctions on us,” he added.

    The minister insisted that the country faced “immense international pressure” on the matter.

    "You all can see what our economic situation is and France is leading Europe. All European countries are supporting France. Shutting down the French embassy here would affect Pakistan's relations with other European countries.”

    The minister hoped that the TLP would agree to withdraw this demand for which it had given a deadline of November 2.

    Rashid said the TLP had committed to end the protest and unblock roads by midnight on Tuesday.

    "We are waiting for that, and I will get in touch with them again tonight at 8pm. After that, I will again talk to the prime minister."

    Speaking in a video message, TLP leader Mufti Mohammad Wazir Rizvi said the government had failed to keep its word and the protesters would continue their march towards Islamabad from Muridke.
    Wazir maintained that the TLP had unblocked the roads in Muridke as per its commitment.

    “Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid has lied about us blocking vehicular traffic. The police have done that,” he added.

    The TLP leader claimed that Muridke had been surrounded by police while trenches had been dug before Jhelum Bridge and Rawalpindi.

    “These steps show that the ill-intention of the government, but we will overcome these obstacles.”
    The TLP has been staging protests for the last several days demanding the release of their chief Saad Rizvi, his name taken off the Fourth Schedule, taking off the outfit’s name from the list of banned outfit, the shutting down of the French embassy and the expulsion of its envoy over the blasphemous caricatures of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) published in his country.

    Thousands of TLP activists left Lahore on Saturday to march on Islamabad, however, they decided to stage a “peaceful” protest in Murdike until the government accepted their demands till Tuesday.

    A day earlier, Rashid had said the prime minister was returning from Saudi Arabia on Tuesday and the matter would be taken to federal cabinet meeting on Wednesday (today).With additional input from our correspondent in Lahore


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    Why are the three elected TLP still not disqualified from Sindh assembly? The TLP is a banned outfit!

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    Rangers called in Punjab for 60 days to ‘deal with' TLP

    Federal Minister for Interior Sheikh Rashid has said that the Punjab government has decided to deploy Rangers in the province for 60 days to maintain law and order and to "deal with a proscribed organisation".

    Addressing a news conference in Islamabad on Wednesday, Rashid said it is feared that the Tehreek-e-Labbaik (TLP) may be listed amongst the internationally recognised terrorist outfits, saying "we won't be able to handle their cases it happens".

    "Therefore, we are handing over the powers to Rangers for the next 60 days to establish law and order in Lahore and the rest of Punjab," he added.

    The minister added that the government wanted peace to be established in the country, saying Pakistan was under “immense pressure”.

    “The French envoy isn't in Pakistan and we cannot shut the French embassy," he said and added, "the proscribed organisation hasn't fulfilled its promise, but I'm still firm on my word… and they should return peacefully."

    He stressed that three police personnel were martyred while over 70 others were injured as a result of an attack by the TLP activists in Sadhoke. "Eight of the injured personnel are stated to be in a critical condition," he added.

    Rashid further stated that the government had also reached out to the proscribed outfit six times and held wide-ranging talks with their leadership, but now the organisation has turned into a militant organisation.

    Turning his guns towards the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman, Rashid said, "the government is going nowhere; please try to understand the sensitivity of the situation for the country".

    Rashid added that the Punjab government was also being given powers under the Anti-Terrorist Act of 1995.

    “The agenda of this organisation is different than what is being projected,” he said and reiterated that the workers must return to where they came from.

    The minister informed media persons that Prime Minister Imran Khan summoned him twice today and inquired about the spread of fake news on social media related to the clash with the organisation.

    Rashid maintained that no one can be allowed to play with lives and properties of the people, warning the TLP workers to take the path of peace.

    A notification for the deployment of Punjab Rangers was later issued by the interior ministry.

    The interior minister’s presser came just hours after Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry announced that the government had decided to treat the proscribed TLP as a militant organisation, saying it would meet the fate as that of other terrorist organisations.

    Earlier today, the TLP workers clashed with Punjab police force near Sadhoke in Gujranwala, resulting in the deaths of the personnel and injuries to hundreds.

    The fresh clashes between the banned party and the police came as the outfit resumed its march towards Islamabad after talks with the government fell through.

    The TLP holds the stance that the government does not want to negotiate in a serious manner whereas the government says that the TLP should let go of its demand pertaining to the expulsion of the French envoy. All other demands, including the release of the organisation’s chief Saad Rizvi, have been termed “acceptable”.

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    Policeman martyred as TLP resumes march on Islamabad

    LAHORE:

    At least one policeman was killed and over 45 personnel were injured after protesters belonging to the banned Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) clashed with Punjab Police near Sadhoke, Gujranwala, on Wednesday.

    The fresh clashes between the banned party and the police came as the outfit resumed its march towards Islamabad after talks with the government fell through. The slain policeman was identified as ASI Akbar, a resident of Kasur.

    The TLP said the government did not want to negotiate in a serious manner whereas the government said the TLP should let go of its demand pertaining to the expulsion of the French envoy. It said all other demands, including the release of its chief Saad Rizvi, were acceptable.

    In a statement, TLP claimed that police used force to disperse the protesters near Sadhoke, injuring over 50 workers. The banned outfit also claimed that police used teargas, water cannons, and bullets to target the crowd.

    "Instead of trying to resolve the issue, the use of violence by the government was further complicating the situation," said a TLP spokesperson.

    Earlier in the day, TLP Central Committee member Wazir Ali said the TLP march would remain "peaceful", but if the police used force against the workers of the banned outfit, the party would go on a countrywide strike.

    In the morning, the party started its march towards Islamabad from Muridke where it had staged a sit-in for the past three days. The decision to halt the march at Muridke was taken after Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid assured them the government would meet their demands.

    The provincial government has deployed a large number of police officials on GT Road to stop the 10,000-strong TLP march. It has also dug up trenches on the highway before Chenab River in a bid to stop the supporters of the religious outfit.

    As per sources, the Punjab government has also imposed a temporary ban on buses plying on GT Road and placed containers on the road to obstruct the movement of the rally.

    Meanwhile, in Rawalpindi, the police have sealed Murree Road for all kinds of traffic. With the closure of major highways in the city, daily life has come to a standstill with citizens facing severe difficulties. All educational institutions and all of Murree Road and adjoining roads have been shutdown.

    No leeway for TLP

    On Tuesday, Prime Minister Imran Khan chaired a meeting at Bani Gala wherein it was decided not to give any leeway to the TLP.

    The meeting was attended by army chief Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa, Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid, Federal Religious Affairs Minister Noorul Haq Qadri, Punjab Chief Minister Usman Bazdar and the province’s chief secretary among others.

    The premier was briefed on the negotiations with the TLP. It was decided that further talks with the religious outfit would be held only if it ended its protest march.

    Rashid, who was leading the team negotiating with the TLP, said at a news conference later in the day that the government had “no reservations” over any of the demands put forward by the religious outfit except for the shutting down of the French embassy and expulsion of its ambassador.

    “It was decided [during the meeting] that this demand cannot be accepted.”

    He warned that accepting this demand would have consequences.

    “As Pakistan is the biggest nuclear force among Muslim countries, conspiracies are being hatched to impose sanctions on us,” he added.

    The minister insisted that the country faced “immense international pressure” on the matter.

    "You all can see what our economic situation is and France is leading Europe. All European countries are supporting France. Shutting down the French embassy here would affect Pakistan's relations with other European countries.”

    The minister had hoped that the TLP would agree to withdraw this demand for which it had given a deadline of November 2.

    Via : https://tribune.com.pk/story/2326623...h-on-islamabad

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    TLP will now be treated as militant organisation: Fawad

    Minister for Information Fawad Chaudhry has said that the government has decided to treat the proscribed Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) as a militant organisation and will ensure it met the fate as that of other terrorist organisations.

    “A meeting led by Prime Minister Imran Khan was held yesterday, participated by the representative of intelligence and other relevant institutions,” the minister said while addressing a presser in Islamabad on Wednesday.

    “A clear decision was made in the meeting not to treat the TLPas a political party at any cost and to treat it as a militant organization,” he added.

    Fawad said that all other institutions, including the Election Commission of Pakistan, should play their role and treat the organisation in a similar way.The TLP, he added, is supported by Indian accounts and it is a militant and violent group. "Its demands and attack on the state are unacceptable."

    The minister maintained that only the state has the right to resort to physical means, saying "challenging the writ of the state is unacceptable".

    “We have so far exhibited restraint and have not stopped any civilian,” he said, adding, “We have not resorted to the use of power against the TLP.”

    The minister further warned those “spreading fake news on YouTube and other platforms of social media pertaining to the organisation”.

    “Such people also comprise persons from the media industry. We are asking you to drop the culture of fake news or we will come down hard on you.”The minister recalled that six police personnel were martyred while more than 700 others were injured in clashes with the TLP workers last time.

    “Now, in the span of just two days, three cops have been martyred while more than 49 are injured,” he added.

    He stated that it was a matter of lives and the integrity of the people of Pakistan and “we will go to all extents in ensuring the same”.

    “Do not complain to us later [when we resort to taking action],” he maintained.

    “The TLP was first founded in 2015 and it has now made a practice of taking to the streets and blocking them. The state has limits to its restraint.”The federal minister also added that certain groups imposing their viewpoint could lead to the state’s elimination.

    Citing the state’s treatment of al-Qaeda and other terrorist organisations, Fawad said no one should undermine the power of the state. “You cannot blackmail the state of Pakistan.”

    He added: “Some leaders of this organisation won’t be affected by any potential unrest, they rather want it to take place.”

    Electronic voting machines

    The parliamentary affairs ministry is planning to write to the ECP to hold the next elections in Lahore through the Electronic Voting Machines (EVMs).

    “It is also being proposed to organise the forthcoming elections of the federal chamber of commerce and the Karachi Port Trust (KPT) through EVMs.”

    Inflation

    Turning his guns towards Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) Chairman Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari, Fawad termed it the responsibility of the provincial governments to control prices in their provinces.

    He further said that the Cabinet has been provided with a comparative, province-wise analysis of prices of essential commodities.

    “The prices of wheat, ghee and petrol in Pakistan are still the lowest compared to the other countries in the region,” he remarked.

    Earlier today, the TLP workers clashed with the Punjab police force near Sadhoke in Gujranwala, resulting in the deaths of the personnel and injuries to hundreds.

    The fresh clashes between the banned party and the police came as the outfit resumed its march towards Islamabad after talks with the government fell through.

    The TLP holds the stance that the government does not want to negotiate in a serious manner whereas the government says that the TLP should let go of its demand pertaining to the expulsion of the French envoy. All other demands, including the release of the organisation’s chief Saad Rizvi, have been termed acceptable.

    Via : https://tribune.com.pk/story/2326654...nisation-fawad

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    ISLAMABAD: PTI Senator Faisal Vawda on Wednesday said that the ministers who had entered into an agreement with the proscribed Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) should take responsibility for the ongoing situation instead of shifting its onus on Prime Minister Imran Khan.

    Taking to Twitter, the senator wrote that "force is not the solution to any conflict".

    "An immediate solution to this problem can be found by inviting the imam of the Ka'aba and the trustee of the Holy Shrine of the Prophet (PBUH), and later all Muslim countries can come together to find a permanent solution to [such issues]," Vawda said.

    The senator, however, deleted the tweet later.

    The senator was referring to the ongoing protests across Punjab and other parts of the country by the proscribed organisation. Despite an agreement with the government, the protests had taken a violent turn after protesters clashed with the police and opened fire on them using Kalashnikovs. As a result, four policemen embrace martyrdom, while 263 police personnel sustained injuries in clashes, according to Inspector General Punjab, Rao Sardar Ali Khan.

    As a result, the government has decided to summon the Punjab Rangers to maintain the law and order situation in the province amid the ongoing protests staged by the proscribed outfit.

    'Govt will abide by agreement signed with proscribed organisation': Rasheed
    On the other hand, Federal Interior Minister Sheikh Rasheed, while addressing a press conference in Islamabad earlier this evening, had said in response to a question that the government had signed an agreement with the prescribed organisation and it will abide by it.

    He said the government tried holding talks with them and kept its word, but "the TLP broke its promises."

    "The government has to establish its writ as it is not happy about the loss of human lives," he had said.

    The minister added that since the ambassador of France is not present in Pakistan, the proscribed organisation seems to have "another agenda" — as one of their demands from the government was the expulsion of the said envoy.

    "The TLP has turned into a militant organisation as its members had opened fire on policemen using Kalashnikovs, leading to the martyrdom of four policemen."

    "I am still warning the protesters to return home," Rasheed said, adding that the government cannot keep schools and hospitals closed due to the protests.

    "The TLP is banned in Pakistan and now it is feared that it may be banned internationally too," Rasheed had warned, adding that Pakistan won't be able to intervene if such a thing happens.

    'TLP not a religious organisation'
    Earlier, briefing the media on the cabinet's decision today, Minister for Information and Broadcasting Fawad Chaudhry said "TLP is not a religious organisation, it is a militant wing".

    The minister said the cabinet had decided to deal with TLP like a militant organisation, as he slammed the proscribed political party for blocking roads and central arteries for their protests.

    "They have already put up a show six times. The proscribed TLP cannot blackmail the state; it has no status. In the past, we have defeated terrorist organisations," he said.

    The information minister, noting that six police officials were martyred during the protest, asked that till when would the state act as a silent spectator.

    "We do not want bloodshed," he said and slammed the TLP for blocking the roads "without reason".

    He asked the proscribed organisation to not underestimate the state's writ, as the government had waited long enough.

    Chaudhry said several people joined the protesters with AK-47s in their hands.

    PM orders stopping TLP's long march
    In the light of TLP's protests, Prime Minister Imran Khan had said that the government would not allow anyone to take the law into their hands as he issued directives to stop the long march planned by proscribed organisations.

    Per sources, the decision was taken during a meeting of the Federal Cabinet. PM Imran Khan had said that the government "will not allow violence for political purposes."

    During the meeting, the premier was briefed on the proscribed outfit's protest march, sources said, adding that the government has decided not to allow protesters to march beyond Jhelum.

    Sources further added that the government has been adamant not to allow the long march "under any circumstances," and that "no talks will be held with the proscribed organisation."

    "The government and the state are on one page regarding the protests," the premier said during the meeting, per sources, adding that the protesters will be "dealt with severely if they try to enter Islamabad."

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    Thousands of supporters of the banned Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) neared Gujranwala city on Thursday as they continued to march towards the federal capital, disrupting routine life along the route of the rally and creating severe difficulties for the masses.

    The authorities, in order to stop the rally, have blocked major thoroughfares such as the Murree Road and adjacent highways with containers and dug trenches across GT Road.

    Multiple roads have been closed for the second day as educational institutions, offices, banks and shopping malls in the affected areas remained shut. TLP workers have also blocked GT Road in Gujranwala district from both sides.

    A TLP spokesperson has confirmed that talks are being held with his government in Islamabad. It is not clear who is representing the TLP in these talks.

    A day earlier, the federal government announced the deployment of Rangers in Punjab for 60 days after at least four policemen were martyred and over 250 sustained injuries in clashes between participants of the march and law enforcers near Sadhoki.

    The decision to deploy the Rangers was taken in a federal cabinet meeting, Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid told a press conference in Islamabad. According to an official notification, the Rangers will be deployed across the province for two months at the request of the provincial government.

    “I am directed to convey the approval of Government of Punjab under Section 4(2) of Anti-Terrorism Act (1997) read with Article 147 of Constitution of Pakistan to entrust power to Pakistan Rangers (Punjab) in terms of section 4(3) of Anti-Terrorism Act 1997 within Punjab to prevent the commission of terrorist acts,” read a letter of the Punjab government to the federal interior ministry.

    Furthermore, Federal Minister for Information and Broadcasting Fawad Chaudhry said the TLP would now be treated as a “militant” organisation in view of its persistent tendency to challenge the writ of the state by creating chaos with the support of anti-state elements.

    “On Tuesday, a clear policy decision was taken in a meeting, which was held under the chairmanship of Prime Minister Imran Khan and attended by the top leadership of Pakistan Army, intelligence agencies heads and all the authorities concerned, that the proscribed Tehreek-e-Labbaik will be treated as a militant group,” said the minister addressing a post-cabinet meeting news conference.

    “We will not treat this organisation as a political party,” he said while urging other concerned departments especially the Election Commission of Pakistan to play their role in this regard.

    Internet services have also been suspended in many areas, situated on the route of the march and residents are facing hardships due to lack of public transport.

    A heavy deployment of law enforcers has also been reported at different points with measures being taken to stop the rally before it reaches Islamabad.

    Due to the security situation in the region, Pakistan Railways has also cancelled several scheduled trains in view of possible sit-ins in Islamabad by the proscribed right-wing outfit.

    Railway operations between Lahore and Rawalpindi have been disrupted and all trains between the two cities have also been cancelled.

    The route of the Tezgam Express locomotive from Lahore to Rawalpindi has been diverted from Lahore to Gujrat instead of its usual Lahore to Faisalabad via Rawalpindi route.

    Read More: Trains cancelled due to TLP sit-in, protests

    Three trains from Lahore to Rawalpindi, Awam Express, Sabk Khurram Rail Car and Jaffar Express left for Rawalpindi several hours late whereas railway operation in Lahore, Rawalpindi and Peshawar sections was affected.

    Security arrangements had been tightened at the railway stations with police commandos deployed at all entrance and exit points. Security was also deployed inside the trains.

    DIG Railway Police Waqar Abbasi directed the personnel to be on patrol and alert at Lahore, Rawalpindi, Peshawar, Jhelum, Lala Musa, Gujarat and Wazirabad railway stations and platforms.


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    https://tribune.com.pk/story/2326742...ars-gujranwala

    Punjab Chief Minister Usman Buzdar has given a free hand to law enforcement agencies (LEAs) to counter the ongoing violent protests by the banned Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP).

    Presiding over a high-level meeting here on Thursday, Buzdar directed the LEAs to take all possible measures to maintain the law and order situation in the province.

    The government cannot allow anyone to play with the lives and properties of citizens and it is the responsibility of the government to maintain law and order and protect public property and the government will fulfil its responsibility in all circumstances, he underscored.

    At least five police officials have been martyred in clashes against the banned outfit since October 27. Another official who was injured yesterday, succumbed to his injuries today.

    Meanwhile, thousands of supporters of the banned TLP neared Gujranwala city as they continued their march towards the federal capital, disrupting routine life along the route of the rally and creating severe difficulties for the masses.

    The authorities, in order to stop the rally, have blocked major thoroughfares such as the Murree Road and adjacent highways with containers and dug trenches across GT Road.

    Multiple roads have been closed for the second day as educational institutions, offices, banks and shopping malls in the affected areas remained shut. TLP workers have also blocked GT Road in Gujranwala district from both sides.

    A TLP spokesperson has confirmed that talks are being held with his government in Islamabad. It is not clear who is representing the TLP in these talks.

    A day earlier, the federal government announced the deployment of Rangers in Punjab for 60 days after at least four policemen were martyred and over 250 sustained injuries in clashes between participants of the march and law enforcers near Sadhoki.

    The decision to deploy the Rangers was taken in a federal cabinet meeting, Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid told a press conference in Islamabad. According to an official notification, the Rangers will be deployed across the province for two months at the request of the provincial government.

    “I am directed to convey the approval of Government of Punjab under Section 4(2) of Anti-Terrorism Act (1997) read with Article 147 of Constitution of Pakistan to entrust power to Pakistan Rangers (Punjab) in terms of section 4(3) of Anti-Terrorism Act 1997 within Punjab to prevent the commission of terrorist acts,” read a letter of the Punjab government to the federal interior ministry.

    Furthermore, Federal Minister for Information and Broadcasting Fawad Chaudhry said the TLP would now be treated as a “militant” organisation in view of its persistent tendency to challenge the writ of the state by creating chaos with the support of anti-state elements.

    “On Tuesday, a clear policy decision was taken in a meeting, which was held under the chairmanship of Prime Minister Imran Khan and attended by the top leadership of Pakistan Army, intelligence agencies heads and all the authorities concerned, that the proscribed Tehreek-e-Labbaik will be treated as a militant group,” said the minister addressing a post-cabinet meeting news conference.

    “We will not treat this organisation as a political party,” he said while urging other concerned departments especially the Election Commission of Pakistan to play their role in this regard.

    Internet services have also been suspended in many areas, situated on the route of the march and residents are facing hardships due to lack of public transport.

    A heavy deployment of law enforcers has also been reported at different points with measures being taken to stop the rally before it reaches Islamabad.

    Due to the security situation in the region, Pakistan Railways has also cancelled several scheduled trains in view of possible sit-ins in Islamabad by the proscribed right-wing outfit.

    Railway operations between Lahore and Rawalpindi have been disrupted and all trains between the two cities have also been cancelled.

    The route of the Tezgam Express locomotive from Lahore to Rawalpindi has been diverted from Lahore to Gujrat instead of its usual Lahore to Faisalabad via Rawalpindi route.

    Three trains from Lahore to Rawalpindi, Awam Express, Sabk Khurram Rail Car and Jaffar Express left for Rawalpindi several hours late whereas railway operation in Lahore, Rawalpindi and Peshawar sections was affected.

    Security arrangements had been tightened at the railway stations with police commandos deployed at all entrance and exit points. Security was also deployed inside the trains.

    DIG Railway Police Waqar Abbasi directed the personnel to be on patrol and alert at Lahore, Rawalpindi, Peshawar, Jhelum, Lala Musa, Gujarat and Wazirabad railway stations and platforms.

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    banning an organization doesnt mean that its support vanishes overnight.
    it only means that the group turns to militancy. and do you really want that?
    PTI has done its fair share of rallies and shutdown Islamabad on allegations of rigging in the 2013 elections. It participated in rallies and protests with the TLP when in opposition, now in power it is doing a 180.

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    The question should be will banning the TTP have any effect? I am afraid it will not do so at all. The country is full of these terribly oppressive people who only want violence. They don't have a clue what Islam says at all.


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    PEMRA bans proscribed outfit's media coverage

    - PEMRA bars TV channels and all other media organisations from covering any activity of the proscribed outfit.

    - Restriction imposed under Electronic Media Code of Conduct, 2015, which prohibits covering proscribed organisations.

    - FM radio, cable operators, and Internet Protocol Television also directed to stop disseminating information about the proscribed outfit.


    Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority (PEMRA) on Thursday barred TV channels and all other media outlets from covering any activity of the proscribed outfit Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP).

    An official notification issued by the PEMRA said that the restriction has been imposed under the Electronic Media (Programmes and Advertisements) Code of Conduct, 2015, which prohibits covering proscribed organisations.

    PEMRA bans proscribed outfits media coverage
    "Ministry of Interior had declared the TLP as a proscribed organisation for being engaged in act of terrorism [...]" on April 15, 2021, read the statement.

    According to the statement, all satellite TV channels, FM radio stations and distribution services networks (cable TV operators and Internet Protocol television) have been directed to stop disseminating information about the proscribed outfit.

    FIA launches crackdown against proscribed outfit's social media accounts

    Earlier in the day, the Federal Investigation Agency's (FIA) Cyber Crime Wing announced that it has launched an operation against the proscribed outlet's social media accounts.

    A statement issued by the FIA said that 12 people were arrested during the crackdown in Lahore, Faisalabad, Nankana Sahab, Islamabad, and other cities of Punjab.

    According to the statement, arrested individuals were involved in uploading hate-inciting material and doctored images on the internet through the proscribed organisation's social media handles.

    Those arrested were identified as Shahzeb Nazeer, Naeem, Ayub, Muhammad Hussain, Muhammad Hassan, Ghulam Shabbir, and Hamza Sheikh, among others.

    It should be recalled that on Wednesday, Minister for Interior Sheikh Rasheed Ahmad had directed the authorities concerned to launch a crackdown on the social media accounts of the proscribed outfit.

    Sources within the FIA said that they received the instructions, adding that they would initiate action against the social media accounts of the prescribed organisation starting Wednesday.

    https://www.geo.tv/latest/378769-pem...media-coverage

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