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    How will India deal with a Taliban-controlled Afghanistan?

    Some tricky times ahead but my sense is that India will come to an understanding with them soon...

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    India’s ambassador to Qatar held talks with a top Taliban leader on Tuesday, the Indian foreign ministry said, the first formal engagement since the group took over Afghanistan.

    The envoy, Deepak Mittal, met Sher Mohammad Abbas Stanekzai, the head of the Taliban’s Political Office in Doha at the request of the Taliban, the foreign ministry said.

    India has long had concerns about the Taliban because of their close ties to arch rival Pakistan. The foreign ministry said the two sides discussed the safety of Indians left behind in Afghanistan.

    “Discussions focused on safety, security and early return of Indian nationals stranded in Afghanistan. The travel of Afghan nationals, especially minorities, who wish to visit to India also came up,” read the statement issued by Indian foreign ministry.

    Mittal also conveyed India’s fears that anti-India militants could use Afghanistan’s soil to mount attacks, the foreign ministry said.

    The Taliban representative assured the ambassador that these issues would be positively addressed, it added.

    (With input from News Desk)

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    India will have to pay a price for their shenanigans I am afraid. The bill will be sent by Taliban in due course.

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    @cricketjoshila

    so what happend to "talks and terror can't go hand in hand" policy ?

    and this one ..... LOL



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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    India will have to pay a price for their shenanigans I am afraid. The bill will be sent by Taliban in due course.
    Missiles will land in kabul and Kandhar. Taliban will have to pay 10 times of any bill they send India.

    Secondly Taliban have no access to India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Missiles will land in kabul and Kandhar. Taliban will have to pay 10 times of any bill they send India.

    Secondly Taliban have no access to India.
    If USA couldn't beat Taliban, what makes you think India can? LOL.

    Indian pilots had a rough time when they invaded Pakistani airspace.

    China pretty much manhandled India.

    If I were you, I wouldn't be so confident.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Missiles will land in kabul and Kandhar. Taliban will have to pay 10 times of any bill they send India.

    Secondly Taliban have no access to India.
    And India has access to Afghanistan? What you think launching missiles from India will defeat the Taliban?

    Also, can we get a response for @Lonewarrior because I’d love to see how you go from “can’t talk with terrorists” to “nothing wrong with talking to a newly formed government”

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Missiles will land in kabul and Kandhar. Taliban will have to pay 10 times of any bill they send India.

    Secondly Taliban have no access to India.
    I would be worried to make enemies with 75k suicide bombers.

    Mind you these suicide bombers would also have backing of India’s two biggest rivals. One of that rival is World’s biggest power, that’s all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YousafTheBeast View Post
    And India has access to Afghanistan? What you think launching missiles from India will defeat the Taliban?

    Also, can we get a response for @Lonewarrior because I’d love to see how you go from “can’t talk with terrorists” to “nothing wrong with talking to a newly formed government”
    Yanks did the same with Bush saying similar words but we know how that ended.

    I dont the Taliban will attack India and vice versa. India will fade away over time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    If USA couldn't beat Taliban, what makes you think India can? LOL.

    Indian pilots had a rough time when they invaded Pakistani airspace.

    China pretty much manhandled India.

    If I were you, I wouldn't be so confident.
    Who needs to go to Afghanistan and defeat Taliban? The point is to hit them whenever and wherever we want.

    Indian pilots went into pakistan, bombed Balakot returned unchallenged.

    China lost more men than India. Thata as per US and Russian media.

    If i were you, i wouldn't talk rubbish about the armed forces that created your country. Else you guys were sitting ducks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    Yanks did the same with Bush saying similar words but we know how that ended.

    I dont the Taliban will attack India and vice versa. India will fade away over time.
    Worry about pakistan fading away not India. Already pakistan has lost half its territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    I would be worried to make enemies with 75k suicide bombers.

    Mind you these suicide bombers would also have backing of India’s two biggest rivals. One of that rival is World’s biggest power, that’s all.
    Those 75K need to reach India. There is no direct access.

    US is India's rival and backing Taliban?

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    First Indian's were celebrating when Ghani's government was ruling under America's protection. Now they are making it sound as if Taliban rule benefits them too when their media can't stop crying. Only thing India can do is accept Taliban rule or have no relations with them at all. Either way the Taliban wouldn't care.


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    New Delhi: Al-Qaeda on Tuesday called for the “liberation” of Kashmir and other so-called Islamic lands from the “clutches of the enemies of Islam” in a message congratulating the Taliban for its victory in Afghanistan.

    A detailed statement issued by al-Qaeda hours after the Taliban declared that Afghanistan has gained “full independence” following the drawdown of US forces referred to the terror group’s long-standing calls for the so-called liberation of regions such as Palestine, the Levant, Somalia and Yemen.

    “0’ Allah! Liberate the Levant, Somalia, Yemen, Kashmir and the rest of the Islamic lands from the clutches of the enemies of Islam. 0’ Allah! Grant freedom to Muslim prisoners across the world,” said the message titled “Congratulations to the Islamic Ummah on the victory granted by Allah in Afghanistan!”.

    Following the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan on August 15 after a lightning campaign across the country, one of the greatest concerns of regional analysts and security officials has been the victory energising terror groups active across South Asia.

    One of the conditions of the peace deal signed by the Taliban and the US in February 2020 was that the Afghan militant group should sever its ties with all terror groups, particularly al-Qaeda. However, reports issued by the UN Security Council’s sanctions monitoring team in recent months have stated that there is no evidence the Taliban having cut or reduced its links with al-Qaeda.

    “We praise the Almighty, the Omnipotent, who humiliated and defeated America, the head of disbelief. We praise Him for breaking America’s back, tarnishing its global reputation and expelling it, disgraced and humiliated, from the Islamic land of Afghanistan,” the al-Qaeda message said.

    “Afghanistan is undoubtedly a graveyard of empires and an impregnable fortress of Islam. With the defeat of the Americans, this is the third time that the Afghan nation, within a span of less than two centuries, has successfully defeated and expelled an invading imperialist power,” it added.

    The defeat of the “American Empire of Evil” is a “tremendous source of inspiration for the oppressed of the world”, the statement said, and offered al-Qaeda’s congratulations to the Taliban leadership, especially its chief Haibatullah Akhundzada.

    “These events prove that the Way of Jihad is the only way that leads to victory and empowerment,” the message said, adding the time has come to “prepare for the next stage of the struggle, the way for which has been paved by the victory of the defiant Afghan nation”.

    “With the help of Allah, this historic victory will open the way for the Muslim masses to achieve liberation from the despotic rule of tyrants who have been imposed by the West on the Islamic World. God Willing, the victory of the Muslim Ummah in Afghanistan shall prove to be a prelude to the liberation of Palestine from Zionist occupation,” it said.

    America and NATO’s “Afghan debacle marks the beginning of the end of the dark era of Western hegemony and military occupation of Islamic lands”, the statement said

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/india...52980-amp.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    If USA couldn't beat Taliban, what makes you think India can? LOL.

    Indian pilots had a rough time when they invaded Pakistani airspace.

    China pretty much manhandled India.

    If I were you, I wouldn't be so confident.
    China manhandled India? Lol okay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonewarrior View Post
    @cricketjoshila

    so what happend to "talks and terror can't go hand in hand" policy ?

    and this one ..... LOL

    He is replying all other questions, but running away from this @cricketjoshila


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    We are already hearing calls in the influential news channels for the UK to open an embassy with Taliban, similar in the US. Without western skirts to hide behind, it is difficult to see how India would do anything different. Their support of the Afghan traitors won't easily be forgotten, but Indians need to recognise the reality and start making overtures for peace. Proxy wars will only lead to backlash on Indian shores. Pakistan has done good work in preventing easy access to Indian borders, but India have to put some effort in to build goodwill as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Worry about pakistan fading away not India. Already pakistan has lost half its territory.
    lol. Pakistan occupies nearly half of Indian Kashmir. Bangladesh isnt part of India.

    Accept it, India tried hard to organise terrorist attacks in Pakistan. Now you're back in Bombay because the Taliban wont forget how you supported their enemies. India should stay out of Afghanistan, it's a Mulsim nation not a Hindutva one. Worry about your millions who are suffering from poverty or lack of hospitals, rather than spending billions to hurt Pakistan, which hasnt worked out well for you.


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    Modi has to be a complete fool if he wants to challenge the Taliban.

    The US spent 20 years in Afghanistan, lost thousands of soldiers, trillions of dollars and had to run away after wasting all these ressources.

    If the world's biggest economy and strongest army could not defeat them, how can India realistically cause any kind of damage to the Taliban.

    India's Air Force could not handle Pakistan in February 2019 and their soldiers suffered in Ladakh against China, so to even think about doing any kind of Bollywood world stuff against those who forced the US to leave would be nothing but stupidity.

    They should consider themselves lucky to not share a border with Afghanistan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    lol. Pakistan occupies nearly half of Indian Kashmir. Bangladesh isnt part of India.

    Accept it, India tried hard to organise terrorist attacks in Pakistan. Now you're back in Bombay because the Taliban wont forget how you supported their enemies. India should stay out of Afghanistan, it's a Mulsim nation not a Hindutva one. Worry about your millions who are suffering from poverty or lack of hospitals, rather than spending billions to hurt Pakistan, which hasnt worked out well for you.
    Go to any Indian channel and all they report on is Afghanistan and more Afghanistan. I fail to understand this. They are more concerned about Afghanistan than China who keeps taking more and more of their land. They have nothing in common with Afghanistan. Never heard so much rouna douna before.

    And who are they fooling if they say they are doing this for humanity?. First take care of human lives in Kashmir, then go to a country far away.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IAJ View Post
    Go to any Indian channel and all they report on is Afghanistan and more Afghanistan. I fail to understand this. They are more concerned about Afghanistan than China who keeps taking more and more of their land. They have nothing in common with Afghanistan. Never heard so much rouna douna before.

    And who are they fooling if they say they are doing this for humanity?. First take care of human lives in Kashmir, then go to a country far away.
    Lets be frank. Indian news channels are more like clowns talking in a circus. The Indian public are easily manipulated, a nation of bollywood films lovers, deluded views thinking India is a great superpower when it's a 3rd world nation. With such a mindset they believed being in Afghanistan will eventually ensure the destruction of Pakistan esp being lapdogs of USA. Its best they wake up & smell the coffee, the US are using India against China, they dont care about brown Indians lol. Afghanistan doesnt want anything to do with a Hindu extremist government, its a painful blow to them after leaving their own people to die on the streets while spending $3b to prop up a puppet government who has now ran off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Missiles will land in kabul and Kandhar. Taliban will have to pay 10 times of any bill they send India.

    Secondly Taliban have no access to India.
    Paper missiles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YousafTheBeast View Post
    And India has access to Afghanistan? What you think launching missiles from India will defeat the Taliban?

    Also, can we get a response for @Lonewarrior because I’d love to see how you go from “can’t talk with terrorists” to “nothing wrong with talking to a newly formed government”
    Joshila bhai thinks it is so easy to send missiles from India to Afghanistan. Like they show it in Bollywood movies you only have to press a button to send those and write the name of the enemy country over it. It will automatically destroy the enemy country.

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    Why will Taliban attack India? What do they gain from it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    India will have to pay a price for their shenanigans I am afraid. The bill will be sent by Taliban in due course.
    Taliban will send what? Lol Taliban’s masters couldn’t do anything to India what will Taliban do 🤣

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    How will India deal with a Taliban-controlled Afghanistan?
    I sincerely hope India change their mindset/foreign policy and basically mind their own business.

    Time will tell. One thing is for certain, there can't be prosperity in Pak, Iran or India if there is an internal war inside Afghanistan.

    Time for the whole world (India including) to set their differences aside and to do their part in bringing peace and stability to Afghanistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    Why will Taliban attack India? What do they gain from it?
    Has Taliban said they will attack India? Where?


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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    Taliban will send what? Lol Taliban’s masters couldn’t do anything to India what will Taliban do ��
    Why this chest-thumping? I mean is the end time here? If not how did you come to this conclusion? No one knows how future will look like.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    India will have to pay a price for their shenanigans I am afraid. The bill will be sent by Taliban in due course.
    The Taliban have abandoned their craziness. Nothing will hopefully happen to India.

    The subcontinent needs to draw a line under the Afghan craziness. Pakistan and Afghanistan have paid a heavy price...India is relatively unscathed but their plans have thwarted.

    Best policy is to move on now that the Americans are gone and leave the past firmly in the past in relation to Afghanistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAJ View Post
    Has Taliban said they will attack India? Where?
    The poster who said they will send a bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAJ View Post
    Why this chest-thumping? I mean is the end time here? If not how did you come to this conclusion? No one knows how future will look like.
    You see issue with my post but not the one am
    responding to.. hmm I responded to a hypothetical scenario as well .

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    Quote Originally Posted by cric_man View Post
    LOL

    But Afghans are running to iran pakistan too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    But Afghans are running to iran pakistan too.
    More jobs/income than Afghanistan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    But Afghans are running to iran pakistan too.
    They are running to India too.
    I guess they want to send Talibans undercovers to start the Jihaad-e-Kashmir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cric_man View Post
    LOL

    Truth is most from India pakistan or even China want to go to America and live the American dream. And you can see that in this forum most running away to fulfil their dreams. But that does not makes those countries I mentioned any less worthy.

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    Afghanistan's land shouldn't be used to export terror activity of any kind: India’s message to TalibanIndia

    The Ministry of External Affairs spokesperson Arindam Bagchi said the Indian government was not aware of details on the government formation in Afghanistan.
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    New Delhi: As the Taliban prepared to officially unveil their government in Afghanistan, India Thursday reiterated that the Central Asian country’s land should not be used to export any kind of terror activity.

    Briefing the press, the Ministry of External Affairs spokesperson Arindam Bagchi said the Indian government was not aware of details on the government formation in Afghanistan.

    “We are not aware of any detail or nature of what kind of government could be formed in Afghanistan,” Bagchi said.

    “I have no update on our meeting (with Taliban),” he added, in response to a question on India establishing first formal contact with the Taliban post the insurgent group’s takeover of Afghanistan.

    When asked what was India’s roadmap on further meetings with the Taliban, the spokesperson stated: “It's not a matter of yes and no. Our aim is that Afghanistan's land shouldn't be used for terror activity of any kind.”

    The MEA official also talked about the evacuation of Indians still stuck in Afghanistan. Bagchi said the operation, named Op Devi Shakti, will resume once the airport in Afghanistan’s capital starts functioning again.

    “Currently Kabul airport is not operational. We will resume our operation to evacuate people from Kabul as soon the airport service will resume,” the spokesperson said.

    The Taliban had taken complete control of the Central Asian country on August 15 when Kabul fell and President Ashraf Ghani fled the country. The concerning development came ahead of the August 31 deadline set by the United States to complete its troop withdrawal.

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    Lol..which missiles and where from? You don't really have the will to do that at the moment. It would also be a stupid idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Who needs to go to Afghanistan and defeat Taliban? The point is to hit them whenever and wherever we want.

    Indian pilots went into pakistan, bombed Balakot returned unchallenged.

    China lost more men than India. Thata as per US and Russian media.

    If i were you, i wouldn't talk rubbish about the armed forces that created your country. Else you guys were sitting ducks.
    Umm you really have no knowledge of pakistani territory...

    Do you even know the terrain of balakot? Its a hilly area that is affected by earthquakes and its not an easy target for someone to go in and make an accurate attack.

    If india would had carried out the attack and people had died, Pakistan would had used that against india. In these madarassahs many students are children, thus pakistan would had shown the death of children to international media had there been any casualities.

    Plus, again knowing the terrain, balakot isnt the area where training for gurreila wars would take place. Cause to match the weather conditions one can go down further north


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Who needs to go to Afghanistan and defeat Taliban? The point is to hit them whenever and wherever we want.

    Indian pilots went into pakistan, bombed Balakot returned unchallenged.

    China lost more men than India. Thata as per US and Russian media.

    If i were you, i wouldn't talk rubbish about the armed forces that created your country. Else you guys were sitting ducks.
    Joshila and his dreams. Only thing you hit was your own MI17 sent on a rescue mission to pick up the pilots of the downed Su30 while Abhi-none-done was having his hot cuppa courtesy Pak Army.

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    Thread is about India and Afghanistan - keep it to that - no more on other topics


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    Quote Originally Posted by cric_man View Post
    Joshila and his dreams. Only thing you hit was your own MI17 sent on a rescue mission to pick up the pilots of the downed Su30 while Abhi-none-done was having his hot cuppa courtesy Pak Army.
    So Indian mirages didn't go inside pakistan and dropped bombs in balakot?

    Even your ispr said they did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Great Khan View Post
    Lol..which missiles and where from? You don't really have the will to do that at the moment. It would also be a stupid idea.
    With missiles ranging upto 5500km India can hit any part of Afghanistan from any where in India.

    Well it wouldn't be a bad idea if a missile drops when Talibanis are in a meeting.

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    Kulbuddin Hekmatyar, Afghanistan’s wily warlord-turned-politician, has warned India against giving refuge to those aligned with the toppled Afghan establishment. In an exclusive written interview to CNN-News18, he said the Taliban would respond by doing likewise, as the man nicknamed the ‘Butcher of Kabul’ positions himself as a power player under Taliban rule.

    “If their (Indian) apprehensions arise from the refuge they’ve given to the opposition then they should simply refrain from giving such refuge,” he wrote in reply to questions emailed to him. “India, by providing political asylum to the opposition of the incoming Afghan government and by giving them a platform to conduct activities against the government, would be forcing the Taliban to act in kind.”

    Hekmatyar, 72, was pardoned by the then president Ashraf Ghani in 2017. Hekmatyar and his forces from the Pakistan-backed Hezb-e-Islami guerrilla group, are accused for killing thousands of civilians during the siege of Kabul between 1992 and 1996. Hekmatyar was also the prime minister of Afghanistan twice—both short-lived tenures of about a year each from June 1993 and June 1996.

    Along with his warning to India about political asylum to elements of the old regime, Hekmatyar also echoed the Taliban position on Kashmir—that Afghanistan and its new rulers have no interest in meddling in the Kashmir issue. He even suggested that it would be easier to use Afghan soil against Pakistan than against India.

    “I would also like to emphasize that Afghanistan’s soil can be used against its neighbors more effec-tively then it can be against other non-neighboring nations. India should not have such apprehensions,” he said.

    When asked about India’s concerns around Taliban regime, Hekmatyar said, “India should reconsider its failed policies regarding Afghanistan and make up for its historical blunders of supporting groups affiliated with the two occupiers (the Soviet Union and the United States of America).”

    Hekmatyar is a survivor in Afghan politics. During the Cold War era, he was part of the Mujahideens who were trained by the US to fight the Soviet Union. Since then he has been both a friend and foe of the Taliban over the last three decades. For his open support to Al-Qaeda, he was sanctioned by the US as a ‘specially designated global terrorist’ after 9/11. When America launched a war in Afghanistan, Hekmatyar took a refuge in Pakistan with the blessings of his patrons in the ISI. In 2017, the leader of Hezb-e-Islami returned to Kabul after striking a deal with Ashraf Ghani government. Hekmatyar contested the 2019 presidential election in which Ghani defeated him.

    He is currently participating in discussions with Taliban leaders, Hamid Karzai and other key players to form a new government in Kabul. His deep links with Pakistan Army and ISI make him a unique power broker in today’s Afghanistan.

    When asked about the role he would want India to play in new Afghanistan, he said: “I would like to see India play a positive and constructive role in Afghanistan, contrary to their role in the past four decades. It chose to support the invasion and occupation of both the Soviet Union and the United States of America instead of supporting the Afghan cause for freedom. It should also refrain from supporting puppet regimes of foreign occupiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    With missiles ranging upto 5500km India can hit any part of Afghanistan from any where in India.

    Well it wouldn't be a bad idea if a missile drops when Talibanis are in a meeting.
    I am sure most Pakistanis would welcome a missile attack on Afghanistan launched from India. Finally the true nature of Modi's govt would be revealed, and gullible Afghans would realise the nature of hindutva "friendship".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    I am sure most Pakistanis would welcome a missile attack on Afghanistan launched from India. Finally the true nature of Modi's govt would be revealed, and gullible Afghans would realise the nature of hindutva "friendship".
    I think all those who believed in that special relationship have moved out of Afghanistan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    With missiles ranging upto 5500km India can hit any part of Afghanistan from any where in India.

    Well it wouldn't be a bad idea if a missile drops when Talibanis are in a meeting.
    so your saying that the Indian should fire ballistic missiles at the taliban? Im glad Indian generals arent as crazy as you my friend. In the event of a ballistic missile launch from India Pakistan and even China will consider this a missile launch against them and may launch in response thus triggering a potential nuclear conflict. Remember nobody has the technology to know if the warhead is conventional or not.

    Now the Indians could send a message to pakistan and say its not directed at either you or china but then the taliban would get wind and thus the element of surprise would be gone. Therefore the Indians would have to launch without warning thus increasing the likelihood of a mistaken response from Pakistan and triggering a nuke war. Ridiculous suggestion..

    The fact is you only really have the "terror" option in afghanistan e.g. small teams laying bombs or target killings etc but your network has all but collapsed and it would take a while to revive it..missiles are out of the question..you dont have the capability to bypass Pakistan and hit afghanistan.

    Unless you can get an aircraft carrier in position near Iran and get their permission but then that would cause Iran no end of issues so again no option..

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    India will not be allowed to use Afghan soil against Pakistan: Fawad Chaudhry

    New Delhi has no role in Afghanistan now, says Fawad Chaudhry
    India’s people should ask their government why they wasted billions of dollars in Afghanistan, says Fawad.
    Information minister says Pakistan Democratic Movement (PDM) alliance is dead.

    ISLAMABAD: Federal Minister for Information Fawad Chaudhry said Sunday that Islamabad would not allow New Delhi to use Afghanistan's soil against Pakistan as it had done so in the past.

    Talking to journalists in the federal capital, Fawad Chaudhry said New Delhi has no role in Afghanistan now.

    Chaudhry said that India’s Lok Sabha, the lower house of the parliament, and people should ask Narendra Modi-led government that why they wasted billions of dollars of taxpayers' money in Afghanistan.

    Responding to a question about Opposition alliance Pakistan Democratic Movement (PDM), Chaudhry said that it is dead. Referring to splints within the ranks of the alliance, the interior minister said that PML-N President Shahbaz Sharif, PPP Chairman Bilawal Bhutto Zardari, PML-N Vice President Maryam Nawaz and JUI-F chief Fazalur-Rehman were not aware of each other's opinions over different matters.

    'India is the biggest loser in Afghanistan'
    Earlier on July 5, Prime Minister Imran Khan had said that once the US withdraws from Afghanistan, the situation in the region will take a serious turn and India is going to be the "biggest loser."

    Speaking to the media in Gwadar, he had said that even the US itself is unable to comprehend as to what will happen next in Afghanistan.

    Ending its longest war abroad, the US had wrapped up its 20-year military offensive in Afghanistan and its military was then in the process of completing a withdrawal from the country.

    "At the time, India faces the biggest problem in Afghanistan," Imran Khan had said. "India has its billions of dollars invested in Afghanistan — a country where the situation is extremely intricate."

    PM Imran Khan had also said India was involved in terrorism, adding that there was clear-cut evidence indicating India's involvement in terrorism in Lahore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    With missiles ranging upto 5500km India can hit any part of Afghanistan from any where in India.

    Well it wouldn't be a bad idea if a missile drops when Talibanis are in a meeting.
    first of all you dont have capability to hit afghanistan without bypassing Pakistan, secondly even if you try that and it will hit afghanistan thn it will be your last mistake ..... Lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by the Great Khan View Post
    so your saying that the Indian should fire ballistic missiles at the taliban? Im glad Indian generals arent as crazy as you my friend. In the event of a ballistic missile launch from India Pakistan and even China will consider this a missile launch against them and may launch in response thus triggering a potential nuclear conflict. Remember nobody has the technology to know if the warhead is conventional or not.

    Now the Indians could send a message to pakistan and say its not directed at either you or china but then the taliban would get wind and thus the element of surprise would be gone. Therefore the Indians would have to launch without warning thus increasing the likelihood of a mistaken response from Pakistan and triggering a nuke war. Ridiculous suggestion..

    The fact is you only really have the "terror" option in afghanistan e.g. small teams laying bombs or target killings etc but your network has all but collapsed and it would take a while to revive it..missiles are out of the question..you dont have the capability to bypass Pakistan and hit afghanistan.

    Unless you can get an aircraft carrier in position near Iran and get their permission but then that would cause Iran no end of issues so again no option..
    Lol. India will launch missile against Afghanistan and Pakistan and China will launch . LoL. You are making fawad Chaudhary proud.

    India doesn't need pakistan's permission to fire a ICBM on Afghanistan.ICBM's have sub orbital space course.

    India will do whatever it wants to reply to any taliban provocation. Pakistan's opinion will not matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Lol. India will launch missile against Afghanistan and Pakistan and China will launch . LoL. You are making fawad Chaudhary proud.

    India doesn't need pakistan's permission to fire a ICBM on Afghanistan.ICBM's have sub orbital space course.

    India will do whatever it wants to reply to any taliban provocation. Pakistan's opinion will not matter.
    so you are the so called indian expert when every other indian ppers looking for you for your defence advice ?
    you dont even know how it works ? or do you ?

    your missile locations and our missile locations are clearly can be seen via satellite , which we both countries have access.

    In peace time, when any party try to move from the current locations for any reason they send massage on hotline first to inform other party that its a normal shift routine of location and not an attack.


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    Laughing at India taking on Taliban - after Amreekans, it was Indians fleeing Afghanistan in their droves.

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    My friend if you fuel your icbms it will become an existential issue for pakistan and will lead to a nuclear conflict. We do not have a no first use policy thus any fuelling of your missiles will be seen as a threat to us and China. We won't wait to see the trajectory as in military terms that's too late. Your missiles would need to be destroyed before launch..

    I mean you really need to go and do some basic research. You don't have a clue. Luckily your military hasn't quite lost its marbles yet and even they are not as stupid as you..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Technics 1210 View Post
    Laughing at India taking on Taliban - after Amreekans, it was Indians fleeing Afghanistan in their droves.
    Indians have been speaking to Taliban for long now. Why will India take on Taliban?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Lol. India will launch missile against Afghanistan and Pakistan and China will launch . LoL. You are making fawad Chaudhary proud.

    India doesn't need pakistan's permission to fire a ICBM on Afghanistan.ICBM's have sub orbital space course.

    India will do whatever it wants to reply to any taliban provocation. Pakistan's opinion will not matter.
    what did India do to Chinese provocation. Sent its army to lose lives. could have sent a missile. No?

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    India, US have ‘one mind and one approach’ on Afghanistan: Dy Secy of State Wendy Sherman

    Meanwhile, the US Deputy Secretary of State hoped that the US and India will be able to resolve the differences over New Delhi's procurement of a batch of S-400 air defence missile systems from Russia.

    India’s security concerns will be the “first and foremost” and at the “front and centre” for Washington, US Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman said Wednesday on New Delhi’s apprehensions about the spill over of terrorist activity from Afghanistan.

    Sherman, who held talks with Foreign Secretary Harsh Vardhan Shringla and NSA Ajit Doval, also said that India and the US have “one mind and one approach” on developments in Afghanistan.

    Noting that the US appreciates India’s concerns over spread of terrorism from Afghanistan, she told a select group of reporters that Washington is putting together a robust programme for “over-the-horizon” (OTH) capability for Afghanistan, but did not elaborate on it.

    The US Deputy Secretary of State said both India and the US have a similar approach on the way forward in Afghanistan that included the Taliban ensuring an inclusive government and that Afghanistan must not become a safe haven for terrorists.

    She also emphasised safe and orderly travel for those who want to leave Afghanistan and called for the need to ensure respect for human rights.

    The senior US official said that the Taliban must act, and not just speak words and that no country is in a rush on recognising the dispensation in Kabul or giving legitimacy to it.

    She said that there was a need to help the Afghan people.

    Sherman arrived here on Tuesday on a three-day visit.

    Hope India, US will be able to resolve differences over S-400: Sherman
    Meanwhile, the US Deputy Secretary of State Wednesday hoped that the US and India will be able to resolve the differences over New Delhi’s procurement of a batch of S-400 air defence missile systems from Russia.

    Sherman told a group of select journalists that any decision on possible sanctions on the S-400 deal will be made by President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Antony Blinken. Her comments came while replying to a question on the issue.

    Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshal VR Chaudhary on Tuesday had said that the first batch of S-400 missile defence system will arrive in India by this year.

    “We’ve been quite public about any country that decides to use the S-400. We think that is dangerous and not in anybody’s security interest. That said, we have a strong partnership with India,” Sherman said.

    “We want to be very thoughtful about the ways ahead, and discussions between our countries try to solve problems and I hope we will be able to in this instance as well,” she said.

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    Foreign Terrorists May Try To Enter J&K Once Situation Stabilises In Afghanistan: Army Chief

    There have been increasing concerns in the Indian security establishment over the possibility of terror spillover from Afghanistan into Jammu and Kashmir through Pakistan and rise in terrorist activities.


    Chief of Army Staff Gen MM Naravane on Saturday did not rule out the possibility of Afghan-origin foreign terrorists attempting to infiltrate into Jammu and Kashmir once the situation stabilises in Afghanistan as he cited similar instances when the Taliban was in power in Kabul over two decades ago.
    At the same time, he said Indian armed forces are prepared to deal with any eventuality as they have a very strong counter-infiltration grid as well as a mechanism to check terrorist activities in the hinterland in Jammu and Kashmir.

    Asked at the India Today conclave whether there was any link between the spate of recent killings of civilians in Kashmir and the Taliban's capture of power in Afghanistan, Gen Naravane said it cannot be said whether there was a connection.

    "Definitely, there has been a spurt in activities (in Jammu and Kashmir) but whether they can be directly linked to what is happening in or happened in Afghanistan, we really cannot say," the Army Chief said.

    "But what we can say and learn from the past is that when the previous Taliban regime was in power, that time definitely we had foreign terrorists of Afghan origin in Jammu and Kashmir," he said.

    "So there are reasons to believe that the same thing might happen once again that once the situation in Afghanistan stabilises, then we could see an inflow of these fighters from Afghanistan to the Jammu and Kashmir," he added.

    The Chief of Army Staff said the Indian armed forces are fully ready to deal with any such attempts.

    "We are prepared for any such eventuality. We have a very strong counter-infiltration grid to stop them at the border. We have a very strong counter-terrorism grid in the hinterland to take care of any such actions. Just as we dealt with them in the early 2000s, we will deal with them now also should they venture anywhere near us," he said.

    There have been increasing concerns in the Indian security establishment over the possibility of terror spillover from Afghanistan into Jammu and Kashmir through Pakistan and rise in terrorist activities, particularly by groups such as Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Mohammed following the Taliban wresting power in Kabul.

    On the targeted killings in Jammu and Kashmir, the Army Chief said this is a matter of "concern" and described it as "reprehensible".

    "They do not want normalcy. It is a last-ditch attempt to stay relevant," he said referring to terrorist groups.

    "The people will revolt. If they (terrorists) say that they are doing all these for the people, then why you are killing your own people who are your support base. It is just an attempt to spread terror which is totally unacceptable," Gen Naravane said.

    About the ceasefire agreement between India and Pakistan, Gen Naravane said it was observed in "totality" for four months from February.

    "But from the end of July onwards to September and now the beginning of October, the sporadic incidents have again started. I think again, it is following the pattern of 2003 when it would start with one odd incident and rising to as good as not having a ceasefire," he said.

    "Over the last month or so, we are again seeing renewed attempts at infiltration. We have eliminated two or three such infiltration attempts," he added.

    In a sudden and significant move aimed at reducing tensions, the Indian and Pakistani armies on February 25 announced that they would cease firing across the LoC while recommitting themselves to a 2003 ceasefire agreement.

    "Apart from the infiltration bids, there have been three incidents of proper ceasefire violations that is one post firing at the other post," he said.

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    The Centre has sent a team of foreign ministry officials to Afghanistan's capital of Kabul for talks with senior members of the ruling Taliban, the ministry said on Thursday, the first such meeting since the chaotic US withdrawal last year.

    Poverty and hunger have rocketed in the strife-torn nation since the Taliban took power last year after the United States withdrew.

    "The Indian team will meet the senior members of the Taliban, and hold discussions on India's humanitarian assistance to the people of Afghanistan," the ministry said in a statement.

    The officials would oversee delivery of humanitarian assistance and visit areas targeted by Indian-backed programmes or projects, it added.

    India has donated about 20,000 tonnes of wheat, 13 tonnes of medicines, 500,000 doses of COVID-19 vaccine and winter clothing, with more medicine and foodgrain on the way, it said.

    India pulled its officials out of Afghanistan last August and closed its embassy, although the government is keen to retain ties with the country where its arch-enemy, Pakistan, wields considerable influence.

    Last month, the ministry said it had no information on when the embassy would re-open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    India will have to pay a price for their shenanigans I am afraid. The bill will be sent by Taliban in due course.
    As of now, the billing address seems to be of Pakistan. Last week U.N report says "“TTP has arguably benefited the most of all the foreign extremist groups in Afghanistan from the Taliban takeover. It has conducted numerous attacks and operations in Pakistan. The growing militant threat in Pakistan now comes largely from Afghanistan, where the Taliban are harboring an al Qaeda affiliate that aims to bring down the government in Islamabad.”

    May be if this actually happens and Pakistan becomes part of Taliban regime, then India will have some thinking to do.

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    India reopens Embassy in Kabul

    In a major step towards re-establishing its presence in Afghanistan, India sent a “technical team” of officials to be based in Kabul, reopening its Embassy on Thursday. India also sent its first consignment of earthquake relief assistance to Afghanistan, where more than 1,000 Afghans have been killed in an earthquake outside the city of Khost. The MEA said the assistance was handed over by the Indian team that travelled aboard an Indian Air Force Ilyushin-76 aircraft, in the first such military, non-commercial transportation since last year.

    The move to reopen the embassy, that comes more than ten months after the government shut down the Indian embassy, and pulled out all Indian personnel after the Ghani government fell, marks a reversal of the government’s policy on engaging the Taliban, and comes a few weeks after a team headed by senior MEA official J.P. Singh travelled to Kabul to meet with the Taliban-appointed acting Foreign Minister Amir Khan Mottaqi and acting Interior Minister Sirajuddin Haqqani, and received specific assurances on security for the deployment. The Indian embassy will become the 15th mission to be open in Kabul with staff deployed there under the Taliban regime, along with Russia, China, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, European Union and four Central Asian states. The U.S. has delegated its diplomatic functions to the Qatari embassy there.

    “In order to closely monitor and coordinate the efforts of various stakeholders for the effective delivery of humanitarian assistance and in continuation of our engagement with the Afghan people, an Indian technical team has reached Kabul today and has been deployed in our Embassy there,” the MEA said in an announcement, citing India’s “historical and civilizational relationship with the Afghan people” as the reason for the decision.

    As The Hindu had reported last week, plans for the team to be based in Kabul had to be reviewed after the Islamic State-Khorasan (IS-K) attack on a gurdwara there, which specifically targeted Indian interests. Sources told The Hindu that the team led by a Director-level diplomat based in the Ministry of External Affairs in Delhi was finalised and expected to travel to Kabul in mid-June, but the government decided to review the situation after the June 18 terror attack on Gurdwara Kart-e-Parwan in which two people were killed.

    According to the sources, a reconstituted team, comprising security and engineering personnel has now been sent to Kabul with the purpose of setting up consular and visa arrangements, the distribution of humanitarian assistances, as well as to oversee the maintenance and restart of various development projects Indian companies had undertaken in Afghanistan.

    No country has recognised the Taliban government in Afghanistan, which took power by force in Kabul on August 15, ousting the democratically elected government of President Ashraf Ghani. However, the opening of the embassy is a step towards working more closely with the Taliban regime, officials said, particularly as India worries about the impact of terrorist groups, drug trade and migration on the region.

    In a statement at last month’s regional meeting of Security officials on Afghanistan, NSA Ajit Doval had marked the shift in India’s perception of the Taliban as a terror group, to a quasi-official entity, when he said that regional countries must “enhance the capability of Afghanistan to counter terrorism and terrorist groups which pose a threat to regional peace and security.”

    “Our long-standing links with Afghan society and our development partnership including humanitarian assistance for the people of Afghanistan, will continue to guide our approach going forward,” the MEA said on Thursday, in remarks echoing Mr. Doval’s comments at the meeting in Dushanbe.

    Since India closed its embassy last August, the embassy has been maintained by local staff, and all pre-existing visas were cancelled and routed through a much delayed “e-visa” system.

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    India certainly seems very keen to establish some presence in Afghanistan. I would say fix your own borders first before looking too far abroad. Would you be prepared to tell Afghans they were conerted to Islam by force?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    India certainly seems very keen to establish some presence in Afghanistan. I would say fix your own borders first before looking too far abroad. Would you be prepared to tell Afghans they were conerted to Islam by force?
    I would say let the Afghans decide if they want any relationship. Right now India is providing humanitarian aid. If the Afghans don't want it, they can ask India to leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    I would say let the Afghans decide if they want any relationship. Right now India is providing humanitarian aid. If the Afghans don't want it, they can ask India to leave.
    I would say try telling the Afghans they were a former hindu territory. Try running that past them like you do on Pakistani websites. Of course I would love to hear some actual Afghan input on this subject but since they aren't bothered about what happened in Bengal 200 years ago, unlikely to happen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    I would say try telling the Afghans they were a former hindu territory. Try running that past them like you do on Pakistani websites. Of course I would love to hear some actual Afghan input on this subject but since they aren't bothered about what happened in Bengal 200 years ago, unlikely to happen.
    Afghans don't come to tell us how we run our country. What history we read, what laws we pass, which clothes we allow, which temple we build. That seems to concern only pakistanis.

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