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6th September 2021, 14:52 #81
Too much negativity. Let's back our heroes now. Asif Ali and Khusdil will make our nation proud. Mark my words and bump this thread at the time
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6th September 2021, 15:07 #82
Gotta call it like it is. That's a terrible squad.
Their entire middle order is rubbish and the only hope is a few of them catch on fire by playing above their ability.
I suppose a lot of it has to do with lacking quality options but selections like Khushdil, Asif Ali, and Azam Khan make it worse. Not only with the bat but also in the field.
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6th September 2021, 15:32 #83
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There's basically no middle order and the selections of Asif Ali and Khushdil Shah are absurd. In UAE conditions, even a 40 year old Shoaib Malik would outperform those two. Heck, Misbah himself could make a comeback and be more successful than them.
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6th September 2021, 15:37 #84
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Not sure what people are complaining about.
With Sohaib flat footed Maqsood, Khushdil legside Shah and Asif hoick to deep midwicket Ali - we should definitely finish 6th in our Group.
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6th September 2021, 15:40 #85
This is beyond a joke
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6th September 2021, 16:04 #86
A lot players who had a problem with the past regime could be back soon I suppose.
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6th September 2021, 16:11 #87
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Wasim started with a bang by injecting youngsters and now completely lost with the WC squad selections.
Well even Inzi squad looked more threatening than this bunch who had Shan Masood in his line up.
Azam Khan , Asif Ali, Khsudil shah have kept Fakhar Zaman, Haider Ali and Shoaib Malik
Dropping Faheem for Wasim jnr is the only better thing from this squad
How can they drop Fakhar from a 20-20 side who just smashed 197 against SA few months ago in SA.
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6th September 2021, 16:12 #88
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6th September 2021, 16:40 #89
Surely this is a prank?
If not, I don't think Pakistan will finish even in top 3 of their group. Worst Pakistani T20 squad in history.
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6th September 2021, 17:24 #90
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6th September 2021, 17:24 #91
Joke of a squad.
All hail the Powerpoint chief selector.
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6th September 2021, 17:36 #92
Fakhar is a game changer but, unfortunately his numbers in T20I in last couple of years haven’t been great. Still considering the kind of batting talent we have it would have been better to have him.
Sharjeel has been hard done. Played just 3 innings in 3 different series of 8, 18 and 20, now he has been dropped. That’s pretty odd stuff.
Just one extra batsman in squad and one in reserve.
Rizwan (WK)
Babar (C)
Sohaib Maqsood
Hafeez
Khushdil Shah
Asif Ali/ Azam Khan
Imad Wasim/ Mohammad Nawaz
Shadab Khan
Hassan Ali
Rauf/ Hasnain/ Wasim Jr
Shaheen Shah
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6th September 2021, 18:11 #93
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Can all the people who are critcising this squad please list the squad they would have liked to see? It seems to me that people here think we have bradmans, wasims and marshals waiting on the sidelines to replace these players
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6th September 2021, 18:13 #94
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6th September 2021, 18:17 #95
Woke up and saw this sqaud and i am not happy so many stupid selections if you were going to bring back khushdil or asif ali should have brought back malik atleast than. I know haidar ali hasnt lived to his expectations but he should have been given a chance compare to asif ali.
This is what happens when you dont prepare probably, your left in scrambbles and you pick anyone. Arshad iqbal should have been picked and they should have taken a risk with proper spinner like zahid mehmood or nauman ali.
This is the squad we have now , all we can do is pray and hope they prove us wrong.
One think is fakhar , usman qadir and dahani are in the reverse squad which i think all three should have been in main squad, that being said if someone gets injured they would replace them on the main squad.
Lets hope asif ali, khushdil shah and azam khan get injured hahahaha
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6th September 2021, 18:20 #96
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6th September 2021, 18:25 #97
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Rizwan (WK)
Babar (C)
Sohaib Maqsood
Hafeez
Khushdil Shah
Asif Ali/ Azam Khan
Imad Wasim/ Mohammad Nawaz
Shadab Khan
Hassan Ali
Rauf/ Hasnain/ Wasim Jr
Shaheen Shah
This is a pretty long batting line up. It would have been nice to see fakhar here but slow pitches and coming late in the order will be a question mark on him.
If Hafeez, Sohaib and Imad are to click this team can do well. Our middle order just hasn't been on form. Spinners will do decent against SENA countries but will be challenged against Asian teams.Last edited by Ozeirk; 6th September 2021 at 18:26.
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6th September 2021, 19:16 #98
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So I see the rivers of blood from the moaning whingeing and wrist slitting are gushing.
But keys all calm down and sit down.
So this squad has clearly been selected around a strategy. Babar and Riz are going to open. Fakhar has failed to pin down his spot but I disagree with him not being there..I do understand the thinking.
Let's get to the other whinge of faheem. Sorry but in the uae he ls a sitting duck. Imad vs faheem means imad wins.
Let's get to Asif Ali and khushdil. So this is the majboori selection.your hoping the top three score enough to give Asif and Shah the chance to hit some tuller 25 etc..like I said majboori selection cos there is nobody else..
Finally Azam Khan. So it was this guy vs other keeper batsmen..why wasn't rohail considered? Perhaps he was and they thought the unfit wonder can hit a long ball..don't agree but get the thinking..the rest pick themselves..
Overall I'm disappointed but even if we had the players everyone is asking for we were a long shot for this tournament.. just chill and enjoy..there will be another one after this..then another..etc..
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6th September 2021, 19:19 #99
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By the way anybody suggesting malik and if your relatively new on here please search fir one if the greatest threads in pp history..you will get a lesson in how useless this guy has been...
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6th September 2021, 19:30 #100
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Please tell me this is a joke and the real squad has yet to be announced. Selecting tried and tested failures like Asif Kushdil and dropping Fakhar. Frankly unbelievable. Wasim and the boys must have had one heck of a party and then chose this squad. Easily the worst ever squad to represent Pakistan at a World Cup.
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6th September 2021, 19:48 #101
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6th September 2021, 19:54 #102
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I am convinced Asif Ali has MMS clips of someone in higher echelons of PCB. There is no other reason he gets so much preference. This will be his 3rd world cup tour.
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6th September 2021, 20:05 #103
Leaving your potential match winner in Fakhar is disturbing. He can win a game with the bat and is a superb fielder.
Otherwise, I would also blame our management in the lead up games to this world cup in that we had ample chances to see what Haider and Abdullah could do with the bat plus Dahani. But instead we never gave these guys consistent chances and in the end went to the tried and tested failures.
Fielding is such an important factor especially in T20's. Hafeez is on his last legs, Maqsood is slower then a turtle and the less said about Azam the better. Close games will be decided by dropped catches and saving singles in the circle and turning two's in to ones in the outfield.
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6th September 2021, 20:12 #104
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Interesting decision to not include Fakhar and I doubt most people would have disagreed with the decision pre-South Africa tour. Fakhar's struggles in UAE are well known.
Sharjeel vs spinners that will come into play in UAE is likely a disaster waiting to happen to.
I don't think the squad is as bad as people are making it sound... but man, the Asif Ali inclusion. That is the gaping problem -- I mean the top order better not experience any collapses otherwise it's a disaster waiting to happen. I do think I would have taken Fakhar over Asif in the squad simply because of the lack of faith in Asif Ali but it's also hard to be confident what you will get out of Fakhar either.
Faheem being replaced by Wasim is quite an exceptional move and one I did not think they would do whatsoever. Interesting they go with Imad & Nawaz too - I actually really like Nawaz inclusion because of his excellent control and ability to take wickets in UAE will be quite handy. My guess is only one of Imad/Nawaz will play while Shadab is the other spinner along with Hafeez. I like Nawaz > Qadir as well who is extremely volatile & leaky. I don't think pairing him with Shadab makes sense when Shadab is volatile & leaky as well. Some consistency is required and Nawaz/Imad + Hafeez will bring that.
I don't think it's a bad squad at all. The bowling looks quite nice. The batting can be good to be honest, it just relies on the top order, aka Rizwan & Babar batting enough early on for big hitters in Maqsood/Azam/Khushdil/Asif to come into play later on. I do think Khushdil will do better with the slower pitch and fast bowlers coming less into play. The batting is extremely right handed now, which I do think is a concern and that is why I would have gone with Fakhar over Asif for more balance. Overall, I don't think it's as bad as it looks.
For Pakistan to win, it will all come down to their bowling because no matter who they select, their batting will never be good enough. They have power in their power, and they got bowling that should be good. Is it going to be enough in UAE? I guess we'll find out.
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6th September 2021, 20:52 #105
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6th September 2021, 21:03 #107
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Excellent Squad for world cup...
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6th September 2021, 21:10 #108
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I think it's to give yourself that set squad in advance of these upcoming T20's so you can focus more on the combination & maybe minor changes via reserves if required. Players get a sense of security too and not panicking if they don't happen to perform in one match.
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6th September 2021, 21:28 #109
Damn no Fakhar. Could see him being so useful at #3 or 4 and a threat to us as always
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6th September 2021, 21:33 #110
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Can’t digest the fact Fakhar is not in squad. I have a feeling that Fakhar will replace Asif ali nearing to the WC
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6th September 2021, 22:10 #111
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It's a squad that doesn't excite me.
The bowlers will get the job done, but the batting looks like it will once again rely very heavily on Rizwan and Babar. The middle-order options look painfully weak.
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6th September 2021, 22:33 #112
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I mean you tell me as a selector what can you do when all the middle order batsmen that have been selected have not snatched their chances?
You tell me if some of the recently included have not been given a fair chance? The ODI series will play a crucial role in my eyes and all is still not lost in my view.
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6th September 2021, 22:37 #113
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They're banking on Babar and Rizwan to deliver in each and every game.
They think that fluke 230+ against England is the way to go in the WC, where the openers will be accumulators but every single batsman afterward will be a slogger.
It is a horrific tactic that will not work well at all. Whoever came up with it has little to no cricketing intelligence much less any iota of sense within their skull.
From the squad given, you can't even fit in 5 guys who can give you the runs you need in case of a collapse.
It's a PSL squad at best, if you were to combine even the most garbage hacks in the league, this is what you would get.
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6th September 2021, 22:42 #114
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It is a horrible squad.
There are at least 9 bowlers from what I can see, too imbalanced.
The best team I can ever think of with the players available is:
Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
Sohaib Maqsood
Babar Azam (c)
Mohammad Hafeez
Imad Wasim
Khushdil Shah
Mohammad Wasim Jr.
Hasan Ali
Shadab Khan
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Mohammad Nawaz
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6th September 2021, 22:49 #115
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That's a carbon copy of my playing XI, I mean previewing that above we could possibly use Ifitkhar Ahmed in place of Khushdil other than that i'm happy enough with that.
Our bowlers can do a job especially our spinners, I mean who else do we pick in that middle order???? And please don't tell me Malik the guy is a known failure in ICC events.
I personally believe that Moqsood is at least one good innings away from showcasing his class and I am hoping and intrigued to see how Khushdil has improved from watching his training clips he's looked to have improved marginally.
It's the best of a bad situation bro, plus i think having had players play on these wickets might help them as oppose to England/WI.
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6th September 2021, 22:51 #116
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6th September 2021, 23:05 #117
I had an inkling it would be a terrible squad, but this is a disaster squad. Other teams will be going in with proper spinners who actually spin the ball while Pakistan is going with Nawaz, Imad and Shadab. Unmitigated disaster.
Batting was hopeless in the middle order anyways so it was a matter of choosing between a Suzuki or Daihatsu.
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6th September 2021, 23:34 #118
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It's a procedural issue..
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6th September 2021, 23:43 #119
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This is bad, really bad squad.
Azam Khan ????, Khushdil ??, Harris Rauf ???, Asif ??? Maqssod, ???
Does not make any sense.
Embarrassing squad.
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6th September 2021, 23:45 #120
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6th September 2021, 23:51 #121
Disappointing squad , do not think Pakistan would reach next level.
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7th September 2021, 00:04 #122
In the middle order England have
Malan
Morgan
Livingstone
Butler
We have
Maqsood
Hafeez
Khushdil
Asif
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7th September 2021, 00:10 #123
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With the squad being allowed to be changed until days before the tournament begins, I will be shocked if there are no major changes to this phantom squad named today.
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7th September 2021, 02:09 #124
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How many specialist spinners are part of this squad? Is Nawaz the only fall back spinner? UAE may be conducive to spinners but having Nawaz as a specialist spinner is pushing it.
Qadir’s not had an extended run and Zahid was culpable for picking 3-4 wickets in his only T20I so naturally got dropped.
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7th September 2021, 02:35 #125
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Could have at least given a place to Sharjeel instead of Khushdil. What were they thinking
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7th September 2021, 02:59 #126
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This asif ali must have some serious connections
How this hack keeps getting selected is unbelievable .
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7th September 2021, 03:22 #127
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Pakistan unselected 11 has a better chance than this pathetic squad.
Sharjeel
Fahkar
Haidar
Malik
Iftikar
Faheem
Sirfraz
Wahab
Nauman
Amir
Qadir
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7th September 2021, 03:22 #128
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It will be interesting to see how big of a factor Imad will be in UAE. Bowling wise, he has 18 wickets in 11 innings with a 13.44 AVG and a 5.50 economy. Nearly a 143 SR batting wise in UAE. Could be that true X factor.
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7th September 2021, 03:27 #129
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How on earth does Asif Ali get in again. This is pathetic whoever selected him should be sacked immediately. How many more chances he’s going to get.
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7th September 2021, 03:29 #130
After taking some time to reflect on this squad, I have finally have some understanding on this team announced.
1. This team isn't bad... its average at best. Its not exactly terrible, but its not exactly brilliant. Its a lot more expected knowing the cricket will be played in the UAE.
2. Azam Khan's selection is baffling, but not surprising considering the nepotism but after trying all the big hitters, his inclusion was the most obvious, specially if he has a good run in the CPL and knowing his father's influence.
3. Shoaib Malik, Fakhar Zaman and Sharjeel Khan are not included and its not surprising. The inclusion and the make up of this squad has had the UAE influence a lot knowing but not fully. With Hafeez there giving more balance with the ball, going back to Shoaib Malik wasn't on the cards, knowing which template they laid with young players, regardless how good they are. Fakhar Zaman's record in UAE isn't great and they decided to keep in the reserve, specially knowing his weakness against spin. Sharjeel Khan's is simple, lack of cricket offered him and his poor fitness.
4. Bringing in Asif Ali is shooting yourself in the foot. He's given more chances to be the big hitter for Pakistan which he has failed to deliver on knowing the unlimited opportunities he's been given. With Khushdil Shah again no idea. Hopefully he's impressed them by working more on his offside play, but no idea. Ifti would have been better than these two
5. Usman Qadir being named in the reserves over Shadab is criminal. Usman is decent leg spinner who has more variations and turn than Shadab, but due to being VC, good fielder and handy batter, they picked him over an actual spinner.
6. How on earth is Maqsood there, limited batter, poor fitness and dreadful fielder. This inclusion doesn't make sense to me.
7. Imad Wasim with Mohammad Nawaz being there doesn't make sense. Imad Wasim needs to get wickets but can't turn the ball whereas Nawaz can. Nawaz is more of a acceptable option except Imad trounces him in batting in T20s. Both similar fielders, maybe Nawaz is a smidge better. You don't need both in the team, that's my point.
8. Haris Rauf and Mohammad Hasnain yet no Arshad Iqbal is odd. You don't need pace on those pitches, you need pacers with variations and accuracy like Arshad Iqbal and Amad Butt. Its like there were brain fades in certain parts of this squad.
So overall there are more negatives in this team rather than positives, but considering the situations and lack of talent, this is probably the best team and squad Pakistan could put out besides a 2-4 changes to the squad. Mohammad Wasim jnr being there is a good inclusion and should play the third pacer. My line-up from this squad at best would be:
1. Babar Azam (C)
2. Mohammad Rizwan (WK)
3. Sohaib Maqsood
4. Mohammad Hafeez
5. Asif Ali
6. Khushdil Shah
7. Shadab Khan
8. Mohammad Nawaz
9. Hasan Ali
10. Mohammad Wasim Jnr
11. Shaheen Shah Afridi
No way is this team getting out of the group but after this tourney a lot of players should either retire or get kicked out permanently.
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7th September 2021, 03:29 #131
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7th September 2021, 03:39 #132
Pakistan need sharjeel fakhar Amir Malik
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7th September 2021, 03:41 #133
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7th September 2021, 05:01 #134
Much better options available but it is what it is.
Think
Babar
Rizwan
Maqsood
Hafeez
Asif
Kushdil
Imad
Shadab
Hassan
Wasim
Shaheen
Will have to cut it.
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7th September 2021, 05:02 #135
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All this outrage is useless. I can see Malik and Sarfraz coming back in the main squad
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7th September 2021, 05:24 #136
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I've followed Pakistani cricket continuously for around 16 straight years (if not more) and in that time, I have seen some bad selections. However in all that time, I have never seen selection as bad as this.
It is so bad that it's making me wonder whether Mohammed Wasim has been corrupted by someone. Any sane person cannot select this squad. In Pakistani cricket, anything is possible and so what if Mohammed Wasim is intentionally picking a bad squad?
I am trying to rationalise this squad in my head every time I try, I can find no way of doing it. There's no logic at play here. Either Mohammed Wasim is being paid by someone, or he has totally and utterly lost his mind.
The good thing is that we have an upcoming series against a C team New Zeland squad, and plenty of time inshallah for the useless players to show their complete lack of ability. This squad will inshallah change before the deadline.
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7th September 2021, 05:39 #137
Hoping they come to their senses before Oct 10 and get fakhar back in! I can't believe Asif got another go this has to be a joke
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7th September 2021, 05:42 #138
My prediction is we are atleast going to see inclusion of Fakhar and Qadir before October 10. And we may yet again see a surprise call, be it Malik, Wahab or Sharjeel. You never know!
But I am pretty certain fakhar would be included at one point.
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7th September 2021, 06:18 #139
A bold gamble taken by the selectors. A team filled with aggressive six hitters. Ramiz has made his mark already
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7th September 2021, 07:13 #140
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Now that the team has been announced we need to support it. Leave the politics aside now. Understandably, many fans will be disappointed with their favourites not playing. At least Shoaib Malik and Umar Akmal are not there.
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7th September 2021, 07:19 #141
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Can understand Fakhar and Faheem have not been performing so don't deserve to be in the team. Usman should have been in the squad for being a wicket taking leggy and useful batsman. Would have preferred him over Imad Wasim for sure.
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7th September 2021, 08:26 #142
I have a feeling that we will see many changes in this squad before the tournament starts. I think Fakhar, Amir, Malik, Wahab, Usman Qadir etc will make into the 15.
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7th September 2021, 10:37 #143
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Really, people are getting into a twist but all the players are a bit of a copy of each other. No one is a standout.
Personally, I am sad about Sharjeel missing out.
Having said that, I do think Pakistan cricket has gone backward under the previous regime or we'd have honed some of them into a much better version of themselves or unearthed a few new one's.
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7th September 2021, 12:07 #144
Pakistan side for the T20 World Cup: It's boom or bust
At the end of the 3rd test reading somewhere, I remember that Kohli doesn't believe in the seven batsman theory despite critisicm from many pundits. He wants to go for the win even if it may seem ridiculous sometimes (dropping Ashwin), but you are more often than not ending up being relentless and winning (e.g. 4th test ). Kohli changed the test cricket India played by its head, unlike Dhoni, a safety-first person.
It is now coming to our recent team selected for WT20. Looking at it, Ramiz has been critical of the safety-first approach and has very publicly been against Misbah and Waqar's position as coach. Similarly, we got some ridiculous selections ( Asif Ali, Azam Kh), but it's clear what Ramiz and Co are trying to achieve. I remember in 2016 T20's vs Australia (in Australia), Amir blew them away initially but comes out Chris Lynn and hits the first ball for six. Ramiz has commentated enough to know that's where the game is going. It's not like we were winning the tournament with MisWaq , so this is kind of our best bet to put teams off. If it pays off, it can be the biggest gamble. One or two positions can still be changed, but I can understand what we are going towards. Barring the openers, this squad is filled with power-hitters who may surprise everyone if they get going. Anyways I feel it's firmly out the Kohli- Shahstri/ Eng white ball/ Windies T20 strategy to go all in and throw everything and see what happens.
It will be an interesting few weeks ahead.
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7th September 2021, 12:17 #145
The Asif Ali engine has no fired even once in the last 13 knocks he played for Pakistan.
Azam Khan is not even worth talking about who seems to be making headlines by scoring run a ball 20s in the CPL.
Probability is the real science and the probability of Asif & Azam failing is extremely high.
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7th September 2021, 14:37 #147
I personally like Ramiz's approach tho. Guy knows stuff about modern day cricket. I'd rather lose with youngsters being given the chance than losing with the same ttf oldies like Amir, Wahab, Malik etc. Azam Khan, Asif and Khushdil wont set the world on fire either but these are prolly the best young hitting options we have and all of em are quite well known power hitters in domestic circuit.
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7th September 2021, 16:02 #148
Ramiz has arrived at the right time. He is looking to change things up and not settle for mediocrity. We usually do well when there is chaos.
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7th September 2021, 18:23 #149
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My squad would have been
1. Sharjeel
2. Rizwan
3. Babar
4. Hafeez
5. Fakhar
6. Shadab
7. Nawaz
8. Faheem
9. Hasan ali
10. Wasim jnr
11 . Shaheen
12. Usman Qadir
13. Rohail
14 . Haris rauf
15 . Hasnain
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7th September 2021, 18:28 #150
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Poor squad.
Mohammad Wasim should be sacked.
Our team needs runs, not hacks that fail under pressure.
Malik was a must for run chases.
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7th September 2021, 18:29 #151
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7th September 2021, 20:10 #152
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So Fakhar Zaman is not good enough but Asif Ali is ? in what universe??
Then Sohaib Maqsood who hasn't made single big score since return, Kushdil has yet to impress on international level.
But the big question is Now that Misbah/Waqar are gone will Mohd Amir get a recall?? or is Ramiz going to enforce his No-Tainted players rule. Sharjeel Has already been dropped (rumors are because he is tainted) .Last edited by cricketAXEpert; 7th September 2021 at 20:12.
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7th September 2021, 22:45 #154
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7th September 2021, 22:46 #155
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7th September 2021, 22:49 #156
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7th September 2021, 22:53 #157
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7th September 2021, 22:55 #158
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