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    Pat Cummins confirmed as Australia's 47th Test captain (update #53)

    Tim Paine has stood down as Australia’s Test skipper just as dramatically as he stepped into the role following sandpapergate in 2018.

    Paine has been embroiled in a texting scandal and the saga opens the door for either a new captain or the resurrection of the man he replaced.

    It’s a major scandal on the eve of a home Ashes and Paine’s replacement will have to galvanise the squad ahead of the first Test on December 8.

    Here are the contenders to replace Paine.

    PAT CUMMINS

    A bowler has not captained the Australian Test side since Richie Benaud in 1964.

    Cummins is the current vice-captain and has previously declared his interest in one day taking on the prestigious role.

    “Absolutely,” Cummins said earlier this year.

    “At the moment I haven’t got too much experience at all, just a couple of warm-up games in England and other than that it’s Under-16s cricket when I last captained

    “So for sure it’s something that’s going to be more on the radar.”

    Cummins, 28, has long been considered the next Test captain and has been endorsed by several former skippers.

    “Patty’s ready for it. I love that they’ve given him the full-time vice-captaincy,” Michael Clarke said last year.

    “For me it‘s the right person for the job that’s the most important, not whether you’re a batter or bowler.”


    STEVE SMITH

    It would be one of the greatest comebacks in Australian sporting history if Smith returns as Test captain.

    Smith left the captaincy in disgrace following the ball-tampering scandal in March, 2018.

    The batsman copped a 12-month suspension and was banned from captaining any side for two years so it would be a big move to reinstate him on the back of another scandal.

    Smith was sensational during the 2019 Ashes without the burden of captaining the side and some argue he’s better off focusing on batting.

    The 32-year-old’s pride was badly wounded over sandpapergate and he admitted earlier this year he’d like to captain the side again one day.

    “I’ve certainly had a lot of time to think about it and I guess now I’ve got to a point where if the opportunity did come up again I would be keen,” Smith said.

    “If it was what Cricket Australia wanted and it was what was best for the team at the time, it’s certainly something I would be interested in now, that’s for sure.

    “I’m always going to have to live with Cape Town regardless of whether I lead again or not. It’s always there.”


    MARNUS LABUSCHAGNE

    The quirky young batsman who is famously obsessed with cricket has captaineded several underage Queensland teams and is expected to lead the country one day.

    Labuschagne has probably forgotten more about cricket than most people will ever know - his knowledge of the game is supreme.

    But it would still be a risk for officials to make the 27-year-old and one of Australia’s youngest Test captains in history.

    Former player Andrew Symonds said this week he doesn’t believe Labuschagne is ready for captaincy just yet.

    “I would say he’d be well aware that’s one of the biggest things he’s got to work on is his maturity,” Symonds said.

    “I was a culprit of it as well. There’s a time for a joke and there’s obviously a time to knuckle down and be serious. What he’s got to do is just find the right balance I suppose. I’m confident he’ll be able to do that.

    “If he has aspirations to captain I’m sure give him another a couple of years you’ll probably see a big difference in his maturity.”

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    Marnus followed by Cummins and Carey..


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    Patty for President

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    If not Smith cause of his past, it makes sense to give it to Cummins.

    I don't think Marnus is ready for it.


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    Should be Cummins.


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    Cummins until Marnus is 'captaincy material'.

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    Steve Smith. If not him then Cummins is the only option.

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    Marnus seems to be the butt of the jokes in the Aussie dressing room so wont be elevated so quickly.

    They also wont go from one tainted captain to another by going back to Smith.

    So its most likely to be Cummins.

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    Steven Smith for me.

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    Marnus

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    Can’t think of many fast bowlers who made good captains. Imran, that’s it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Can’t think of many fast bowlers who made good captains. Imran, that’s it.
    Even he was an AR. Can't remember many pure fast bowlers captains,maybe due to workload


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    Give it back to Smith.

    He's the best option.



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    Smith deserves a redemption chance. Cummins shouldn't take any further worload.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saurav View Post
    Even he was an AR. Can't remember many pure fast bowlers captains,maybe due to workload
    Wasim Akram, Courtney Walsh were good captains. Waqar as usual was poor. Shaun Pollock was a decent captain too.

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    Smith is the ideal captain regardless of his past. But I think Lyon should get the job. CA might just give it to Wade following the wt20 and his leadership experience in domestic.

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    It should be Steve Smith

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    Steve Smith the obvious choice.


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    Most people I talk to want Cummins.

    But we think the CA board is more likely to go back to Smith. Which is a step backwards.
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    It seems like Cummins is naturally next in line but the problem with a fast bowler being the skipper is that they're very injury prone so he will inevitably get injured and miss a couple series every other year so his deputy has to be to be ready to takeover at anytime.


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    Smith doesn't deserve it. CA going back to him will be destroying its credibility.

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    Smith would be a backward step. It should be the case that if you get stood down from or resign the Australian captaincy due to cheating then there is never a way back into that role, and you have to earn your place back just as a squad player (as he has done). Otherwise it sets the wrong precedent to young Australians. Cummins despite being a bowler is the best choice to take over from Paine. A great cricket brain, an inspirational performer, a wealth of big game experience, and squeaky clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrongun View Post
    Most people I talk to want Cummins.

    But we think the CA board is more likely to go back to Smith. Which is a step backwards.
    Sure you want to risk messing up your gun fast bowler? Takes a lot of physical effort. He might lose focus and miss things while he bowls, or while recovering after a spell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saurav View Post
    Even he was an AR. Can't remember many pure fast bowlers captains,maybe due to workload
    Bob Willis did it and beat India, Pakistan and NZ all at home, but he was so far deep in the zone that he stopped communicating and Gower had to set fields for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Can’t think of many fast bowlers who made good captains. Imran, that’s it.
    Akram, Walsh, Pollock, Mortaza? None of them necessarily great captains but I think they were good enough. Actually Akram is extremely underrated due to the failure in 99 world cup & 99/00 whitewash in down under. Kapil was horrible in tests,but he is one of four captains in the history to claim two ICC tournaments which when you consider the era he led was massive.
    On topic, I think Smith is the right & most sane choice. As controversial as it will be. They can't overload Pat who will be carrying an overrated Aussie bowling attack.

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    Steve Smith. The greatest comeback must happen. He has not done anything in last two years anyways in the post COVID era.

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    Cummins isn't fit to be captain, physically speaking. Pace bowlers, especially good ones who play at high intensity, are always on a timer. 1 injury could cost Cummins his career, he should be the last person in the team to be considered for captaincy. Anybody can be a captain, Cummins is once in a decade.

    Either Smith or any other batsman is ideal choice.

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    Smith should get his captaincy back.

    He has served his time. He should get another opportunity.


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    CA chairman says background checks to be carried out for captaincy candidates

    Pat Cummins remains the frontrunner to replace Tim Paine as Australia’s next Test captain but Cricket Australia chairman Richard Freudenstein has revealed Steve Smith will be considered for the role, just three years after receiving a captaincy ban for his involvement in the sandpaper incident.

    It comes as Freudenstein confirmed CA would complete background checks on captaincy candidates to avoid a repeat of the Paine saga.

    A day after Paine resigned from the Australian captaincy, after a messy sexting scandal from 2017 came to light on Friday, Freudenstein and CA chief executive Nick Hockley addressed reporters via Zoom on Saturday afternoon.

    The pair were grilled about what the organisation knew of the investigation in 2018 that looked into Paine’s conduct, after a complaint was made by a former Cricket Tasmania staffer over inappropriate messages sent by Paine.

    With less than three weeks before the first Ashes Test in Brisbane on December 8, CA has begun the formal process of selecting a new skipper to lead the team.

    Cummins, the 28-year-old fast bowler, has been earmarked as captaincy material and the most likely to get the green light.

    However Smith, 32, looms as an option despite being complicit in the Cape Town ball tampering scandal which led to Paine taking the captaincy in 2018.

    Smith was suspended from representing Australia for 12 months and had to serve a two-year leadership ban, which expired in March last year.

    Freudenstein would not speculate on who was favourite to take over from Paine, but confirmed Smith would be considered.

    “There are a range of candidates who are available for that role,” Freudenstein said. “Steve Smith is one of the candidates that is available for the role.

    “We’ve put in place a process for finding the next Australian captain that was going to take place over the summer in anticipation Tim would one day retire. We’re obviously accelerating that process. It’ll be a very thorough but brief process that will look at all the relevant criteria for a captain of the Australian cricket team. We will come to a conclusion [on] that with plenty of time before the Ashes.”

    Freudenstein, who joined the CA board in 2019, has acknowledged the organisation made the wrong call to not disclose an investigation into Paine’s inappropriate behaviour.

    Cummins is one of the most well-liked figures in Australian cricket and has no prior indiscretions to his name.

    CA will be ensuring there are thorough background checks.

    Tim Paine has helped dispel the notion that adding the captaincy to wicketkeeping duties may be too onerous a task.

    “You can be sure that [as] part of that process we will be trying to make sure that those issues don’t exist,” Freudenstein said.

    Hockley added that whoever was appointed would be someone that would go a long way to “making Australians proud”.

    “Certainly what we’ve been looking at through the process – as well as obviously captaining capability on the field – is the values, the culture and those leadership attributes that we want to see in the next captain of the Australian men’s Test side. This process will be expedited now but those values of respect, inclusion, of making the sport and making Australians proud, are absolutely going to be at the forefront of the criteria that we apply.”

    Since returning to Test cricket in 2019, Smith has averaged 63.9 with the bat, while Cummins’ stocks have risen en route to becoming the world’s No.1 ranked Test bowler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Sure you want to risk messing up your gun fast bowler? Takes a lot of physical effort. He might lose focus and miss things while he bowls, or while recovering after a spell.
    Or he might lift & go to a whole new level. I've never bought into this "only batsmen can captain" nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    CA chairman says background checks to be carried out for captaincy candidates

    Pat Cummins remains the frontrunner to replace Tim Paine as Australia’s next Test captain but Cricket Australia chairman Richard Freudenstein has revealed Steve Smith will be considered for the role, just three years after receiving a captaincy ban for his involvement in the sandpaper incident.

    It comes as Freudenstein confirmed CA would complete background checks on captaincy candidates to avoid a repeat of the Paine saga.

    A day after Paine resigned from the Australian captaincy, after a messy sexting scandal from 2017 came to light on Friday, Freudenstein and CA chief executive Nick Hockley addressed reporters via Zoom on Saturday afternoon.

    The pair were grilled about what the organisation knew of the investigation in 2018 that looked into Paine’s conduct, after a complaint was made by a former Cricket Tasmania staffer over inappropriate messages sent by Paine.

    With less than three weeks before the first Ashes Test in Brisbane on December 8, CA has begun the formal process of selecting a new skipper to lead the team.

    Cummins, the 28-year-old fast bowler, has been earmarked as captaincy material and the most likely to get the green light.

    However Smith, 32, looms as an option despite being complicit in the Cape Town ball tampering scandal which led to Paine taking the captaincy in 2018.

    Smith was suspended from representing Australia for 12 months and had to serve a two-year leadership ban, which expired in March last year.

    Freudenstein would not speculate on who was favourite to take over from Paine, but confirmed Smith would be considered.

    “There are a range of candidates who are available for that role,” Freudenstein said. “Steve Smith is one of the candidates that is available for the role.

    “We’ve put in place a process for finding the next Australian captain that was going to take place over the summer in anticipation Tim would one day retire. We’re obviously accelerating that process. It’ll be a very thorough but brief process that will look at all the relevant criteria for a captain of the Australian cricket team. We will come to a conclusion [on] that with plenty of time before the Ashes.”

    Freudenstein, who joined the CA board in 2019, has acknowledged the organisation made the wrong call to not disclose an investigation into Paine’s inappropriate behaviour.

    Cummins is one of the most well-liked figures in Australian cricket and has no prior indiscretions to his name.

    CA will be ensuring there are thorough background checks.

    Tim Paine has helped dispel the notion that adding the captaincy to wicketkeeping duties may be too onerous a task.

    “You can be sure that [as] part of that process we will be trying to make sure that those issues don’t exist,” Freudenstein said.

    Hockley added that whoever was appointed would be someone that would go a long way to “making Australians proud”.

    “Certainly what we’ve been looking at through the process – as well as obviously captaining capability on the field – is the values, the culture and those leadership attributes that we want to see in the next captain of the Australian men’s Test side. This process will be expedited now but those values of respect, inclusion, of making the sport and making Australians proud, are absolutely going to be at the forefront of the criteria that we apply.”

    Since returning to Test cricket in 2019, Smith has averaged 63.9 with the bat, while Cummins’ stocks have risen en route to becoming the world’s No.1 ranked Test bowler.

    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket...20-p59am3.html
    Background checks, how is this even legal? Cricket Australia behaving like the Taliban here

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    Australia should definitely appoint Cummins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Background checks, how is this even legal? Cricket Australia behaving like the Taliban here
    Not unusual. I've undergone background checks for jobs in Australia multiple times. Singapore too. Standard for educators, govt posts with any level of confidential material, heck even swimming or dance instructors or childrens entertainers. Employers have the right to ask for them, and the applicant can withdraw if they want.

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    Previously I was thinking Smith, but honestly the prospect of Cummins leading is an exciting one. He's a champion cricketer...supremely fit...and looks like someone with good instincts who could do well in a leadership role. If there is any fast-bowler in the world right now who could be a good all-format captain its Pat Cummins.

    Smith is the obvious choice, but there's alot of toxicity associated with his previous tenure that I think Australia just need to move past. Its time to turn the page and look towards a potentially exciting new era for Australian cricket under Pat Cummins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Background checks, how is this even legal? Cricket Australia behaving like the Taliban here
    Background checks for jobs are pretty normal in a number of industries. Financial, credit history, bankruptcy orders, national security, political, social media, criminal convictions, personal conduct, that sort of stuff.

    Anything involving professional government service or significant corporate responsibility will get you a background check. I have gone through a few.

    This normally takes 4-6 weeks, so CA will have to move quickly with the Ashes around the corner.
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    I dont see the any reason to remove Tim Paine due to his personal messages. Its two adults conversing in a way they both enjoyed. I am pretty sure If Babars phone was checked , something would come up and hes a nice guy.

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    Should be Khawaja


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    Travis Head it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khan991 View Post
    I dont see the any reason to remove Tim Paine due to his personal messages. Its two adults conversing in a way they both enjoyed. I am pretty sure If Babars phone was checked , something would come up and hes a nice guy.
    The lady involved is saying the graphic pictures were unwanted.

    Just because she sent a few flirty texts doesn't mean she necessarily wanted to see pictures of his junk.

    It does seem flimsy (both clearly involved as you say). But for some reason she ended up no longer employed by cricket & he ended up Oz captain. It MAY be a calculated play on her part because she never asks for those pictures so she knows that can be claimed as unwanted. It may well be true she found it gross too, who knows.

    He was also newly married I think, so it's poor behaviour. Not illegal but not really above board. "elite honesty", "elite integrity" lol.

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    It feels to me that Tim Paine is doing the honourable thing for his country. He doesn’t want any media focus or news coverage during the Ashes to be about the Australian captain conducting himself controversially in his personal life. From his perspective he wants the Australian team to be able to concentrate purely on beating England in the series.

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    This episode is so unnecessary.

    It was two consenting adults. Tim shouldn't have had to face this kind of reaction from CA given that both of them were involved in the sex talk; it wasn't a one-way street. The woman used these texts later on as collateral after she got caught stealing stuff at Cricket Tasmania.

    I feel for Tim Paine !


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    Sydney: Australian cricketer and former Test captain Tim Paine’s wife, Bonnie, finally opened up on the sexting incident doing the rounds on the internet. Bonnie says that it broke her heart to see her husband stepping down as Test skipper ahead of the crucial Ashes series in the wake of the sexting scandal that the wicketkeeper-batter finds himself in the middle of.

    With less than three weeks to go for the Ashes, Paine had tearfully relinquished the Test captaincy over the scandal on November 19, saying he deeply regretted the incident. Also Read - Not in Favour of Fast Bowler Being Appointed Australia Skipper: Ex-Wicketkeeper Darren Berry

    “Although exonerated (by a Cricket Australia Integrity Unit investigation), I deeply regretted this incident. I spoke to my wife and family at the time and am enormously grateful for their forgiveness and support,” Paine had said at a press conference in Hobart. Also Read - Ashes 2021: Not David Warner Or Steve Smith, Greg Chappell Backs Pat Cummins As The Captain Of Australian Cricket Test Team

    “We thought this incident was behind us and that I could focus entirely on the team, as I have done for the last three or four years. However, I recently became aware that this private text exchange was going to become public,” Paine had added.

    On Sunday, Paine’s wife Bonnie told The Sunday Telegraph that she felt frustrated that the scandal has “been aired in public”.

    “I have a bit of sympathy for Tim. A lot actually. He and I went through all of this privately in 2018. I feel a bit frustrated that it’s all been brought up and aired in the public when we put it to bed years ago. I have moved forward since then. I feel like there is a lot of injustice for it being dragged out again,” said Bonnie.

    Paine’s wife said that initially she was shocked when the sexting scandal came to her knowledge in 2018. “I don’t claim to be perfect, but I was still completely rocked,” said Bonnie.

    She added that the “need to forgive” was part of a relationship and it was extremely difficult for her to watch Paine’s emotional press conference on November 19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrongun View Post
    The lady involved is saying the graphic pictures were unwanted.

    Just because she sent a few flirty texts doesn't mean she necessarily wanted to see pictures of his junk.

    It does seem flimsy (both clearly involved as you say). But for some reason she ended up no longer employed by cricket & he ended up Oz captain. It MAY be a calculated play on her part because she never asks for those pictures so she knows that can be claimed as unwanted. It may well be true she found it gross too, who knows.

    He was also newly married I think, so it's poor behaviour. Not illegal but not really above board. "elite honesty", "elite integrity" lol.
    I read the transcript of their conversation in a news article. It was all flirty flirty between both till night, but the next morning on the day of an Ashes test, the woman messages "I'm going to have 'naughty thoughts' about you when you're in the field today". What does she exactly mean here, I'm guess it surely has got nothing to do with the cricket

    Now given the woman in question was a person who was employed in cricket Tasmania, I'm sure she must have known of Paine's marriage and I think she was married herself. So she doesn't exactly paint herself in good colours here too like Paine.

    After the woman sends this message, Paine gets all hormonal and sends the horny messages and then follows up with picture of his junk. Now technically, this could be termed as sexual harrassment on the argument that the woman was just ready for some "naughty thoughts" but wasn't ready to get a picture of his you know what. But I don't think it's a clear cut situation and as much Paine was an absolute idiot here, the woman doesn't paint herself in good colours either as far as I'm concerned.

    I'm guessing cricket Australia was looking for a way to offload Paine and let's be honest, Paine was adding really nothing great to the team with both the bat and the gloves apart from being the posterboy of Cricket Australia's Elite honesty initiative. And leaking the past probe from 4 years ago was the best chance to do that job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Background checks, how is this even legal? Cricket Australia behaving like the Taliban here
    Its normal. I too had to go through background checks before getting the appointment.

    What profession are you in? Most organizations does it now a days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi View Post
    Its normal. I too had to go through background checks before getting the appointment.

    What profession are you in? Most organizations does it now a days.
    I prefer to keep my profession/organisation confidential but I’ve been employed at the same company since I graduated (nearly 10 years ago) and I know GDPR rules have changed drastically recently. As such, background checks only permit criminal records and financial conduct records. Even the past employement records of a candidate cannot legally mention anything that would be a reason to not hire that person in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by street cricketer View Post
    I'm guessing cricket Australia was looking for a way to offload Paine and let's be honest, Paine was adding really nothing great to the team with both the bat and the gloves apart from being the posterboy of Cricket Australia's Elite honesty initiative. And leaking the past probe from 4 years ago was the best chance to do that job.
    Nah, if this was a deliberate leak it would have happened in the off-season given that CA have been sitting on the investigation for four years. The worst possible time to have leaked this deliberately is on the eve of an Ashes series after the first test squad is announced.

    Paine's given hints that some print journalists had known about this issue for a few years and there were threats to leak it publicly before every series since he became captain, I think someone's given him the hint that this time the threat was real and he just pre-empted it. Doubt there's any conspiracy involved.

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    Nov 21 (Reuters) - Former Australia leg-spinner Shane Warne said the time is right for fast bowler Pat Cummins to succeed Tim Paine as captain of the test team and blood Josh Inglis as the side's next wicketkeeper.

    Paine resigned on Friday after media revelations he had been investigated and cleared over sexually explicit text messages sent to a female former colleague four years ago. read more

    Vice captain Cummins, 28, has taken 164 wickets in 32 test for Australia since making his debut in 2011.

    "For me, the time is right to make Pat Cummins captain, something I thought even before the events of Friday unfolded," Warne wrote in Australia's The Daily Telegraph on Sunday.

    "The poster boy, respected and loved the world over, Pat Cummins should now be named captain, and either Matt Wade, Josh Inglis or Alex Carey should get their chance to come in and play Paine's role in the Test team.

    "Inglis gets my vote. He's got silky smooth hands behind the stumps, he's a 360 degree player with the bat and coming off three first class hundreds last season for Western Australia. He's a great team man who I saw first hand at the London Spirit this year. He's 26. Get him in."

    Warne, who has previously criticised Paine's captaincy, praised the 36-year-old's leadership after he was appointed captain in place of Steve Smith in the aftermath of the ball-tampering scandal in South Africa in 2018.

    "It was sad to see what happened last Friday on so many levels and the circumstances in which Tim was forced to stand down. I really feel for him, what he's going through, and what his family is going through," Warne added.

    "I'm not judging him on this incident. Just because Tim is in the public eye doesn't mean he won't make a mistake. Sportspersons are human, they have feelings. Let's stop the judgement. It's not our place to do that."


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    Special CA committee to question captaincy hopefuls before deciding on next Test skipper

    Extra rigour has been added to the search for the next Australian men’s captain, in contrast to a September 2018 Cricket Australia leadership process where the integrity investigation of former skipper Tim Paine, just a few months before, was never mentioned.

    The nominations of national selectors George Bailey, Justin Langer and Tony Dodemaide - widely expected to be for Pat Cummins as captain and Steve Smith as his deputy - were decided this week.

    A joint committee comprising selectors, CA’s chief executive Nick Hockley, chair Richard Freudenstein, and fellow director Mel Jones, will now look into the nominees before they go to the full CA Board, in a process that may take up to a week.

    National coach Langer will not be part of the panel.

    It is expected that all captaincy nominees will be interviewed by the joint committee, providing them the chance to articulate their personal histories, and also their vision for the Australian men’s team.

    Committee members will also be collectively briefed on relevant integrity or code of conduct matters that have not been published, should nominated players have any such issues as part of their time in cricket.

    Sources revealed to The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald that a panel convened specifically to settle upon the leadership of the Australian men’s team in late 2018 never discussed Paine’s integrity investigation for sending an explicit image and messages to a former Cricket Tasmania staffer, despite multiple panellists being aware of the matter.

    That panel included then chair David Peever, board director Mark Taylor, then head of team performance Pat Howard, then selection chair Trevor Hohns and fellow selector Greg Chappell, coach Justin Langer and team psychologist Michael Lloyd.

    But the Paine episode was never shared with all members of the panel, meaning it could not be spoken about in the context of his leadership of the men’s Test team.

    Langer had instituted a method of identifying leaders that he had seen at the West Coast Eagles football club, where he remains a board director. This involved asking current players to vote on who they saw as the team’s leaders, with the top six placegetters then interviewed by the panel before final decisions were made.

    While first appointed captain immediately after Steve Smith’s forced resignation as leader amidst the Newlands ball tampering scandal in late March of 2018, Paine described himself as putting his name “back into the pool” for this process, similarly to a political leader declaring the leadership vacant ahead of a party room vote.

    After being re-nominated as captain, Paine denied it had been a box-ticking exercise, and affirmed his willingness to stand aside if his fellow players or the expert panel had decided he was not the right candidate.

    “It probably wouldn’t have been my call. We took it very seriously and the players had their say, then there was a [interview] process after that as well,” Paine said in September 2018. “It was not done to tick boxes or anything like that. It was to make sure we had the right people leading this team going forward.”

    The nomination of a wider group of leaders - Cummins was not included as he was recovering from a back injury at the time - was aimed at adding to the leadership options available to the national selectors in all formats.

    Mitchell Marsh and Josh Hazlewood were named as joint vice-captains to Paine, while Aaron Finch, Alex Carey and Travis Head were also high in the voting and served as titled leaders at various points of the following summer.

    “We believe the new leadership model will best support the captain,” Hohns said at the time. “It is a successful model used across various sporting codes around the world, and we see it benefiting the group, not just from a tactical perspective, but also to help drive the team’s values and standards on and off the field.”

    Given how publication of his explicit image and messages to the former staffer carried the potential to render Paine’s captaincy untenable at virtually any time after that point, the deeper pool of leadership options was not only preferable but essential.

    The current process may involve as few as two players, but the questioning will be deeper.

    “We’ve put in place a process for finding the next Australian captain that was going to take place over the summer in anticipation Tim would one day retire,” Freudenstein said on Saturday.

    “We’re obviously accelerating that process. It’ll be a very thorough but brief process that will look at all the relevant criteria for a captain of the Australian cricket team. We will come to a conclusion with plenty of time before the Ashes.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by wrongun View Post
    Or he might lift & go to a whole new level. I've never bought into this "only batsmen can captain" nonsense.
    Australia seems to though - last bowler-captain was Benaud and he wasn’t a quickie. Imran apart, I can think of an outstanding quickie-captain.

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    Cricket Australia Interview Pat Cummins For Test captaincy

    Pacer Pat Cummins on Wednesday was interviewed by a Cricket Australia panel for the position of Test skipper of the men's cricket team. As per a report in Sydney Morning Herald, Steve Smith was also interviewed for the role of Test vice-captain. The entire process has brought Cricket Australia one step closer to revealing Cummins as the next Test skipper. If Smith is indeed made the vice-captain, then he would return to a leadership role for the first time since the Sandpaper Gate in 2018.

    Cummins and Smith appeared before a committee comprising selectors George Bailey and Tony Dodemaide, chief executive Nick Hockley, chair Richard Freudenstein and board member Mel Jones.

    Australia head coach Justin Langer is not a part of the panel picked by Cricket Australia (CA) to pick the next Test skipper.

    All the captaincy nominees will be interviewed by the joint committee where they will be asked to share their vision for the men's Test team.

    Tim Paine had stepped down as the captain of the side ahead of the much-awaited Ashes opener. According to cricket.com.au, Paine announced his resignation as Test skipper following revelations of a 'sexting' incident with a former Cricket Tasmania colleague in 2017.

    Paine "deeply regretted" the incident and said he was "enormously" grateful to his wife and family for the forgiveness.

    "I spoke to my wife and family at the time and am enormously grateful for their forgiveness and support. We thought this incident was behind us and that I could focus entirely on the team, as I have done for the last three or four years," cricket.com.au quoted Paine as saying.

    https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/cric...report-2622625

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    Tim Paine did nothing wrong apart from cheating his wife which the wife has forgiven him for. Who are we then to judge him? And why should it affect his career. He should've continued being a captain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by transparent opacity View Post
    Cricket Australia Interview Pat Cummins For Test captaincy

    Pacer Pat Cummins on Wednesday was interviewed by a Cricket Australia panel for the position of Test skipper of the men's cricket team. As per a report in Sydney Morning Herald, Steve Smith was also interviewed for the role of Test vice-captain. The entire process has brought Cricket Australia one step closer to revealing Cummins as the next Test skipper. If Smith is indeed made the vice-captain, then he would return to a leadership role for the first time since the Sandpaper Gate in 2018.

    Cummins and Smith appeared before a committee comprising selectors George Bailey and Tony Dodemaide, chief executive Nick Hockley, chair Richard Freudenstein and board member Mel Jones.

    Australia head coach Justin Langer is not a part of the panel picked by Cricket Australia (CA) to pick the next Test skipper.

    All the captaincy nominees will be interviewed by the joint committee where they will be asked to share their vision for the men's Test team.

    Tim Paine had stepped down as the captain of the side ahead of the much-awaited Ashes opener. According to cricket.com.au, Paine announced his resignation as Test skipper following revelations of a 'sexting' incident with a former Cricket Tasmania colleague in 2017.

    Paine "deeply regretted" the incident and said he was "enormously" grateful to his wife and family for the forgiveness.

    "I spoke to my wife and family at the time and am enormously grateful for their forgiveness and support. We thought this incident was behind us and that I could focus entirely on the team, as I have done for the last three or four years," cricket.com.au quoted Paine as saying.

    https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/cric...report-2622625
    Why is there interview for captain's position? Should do it Desi style. Just announce anyone captain directly. No interviews.
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    Pat Cummins and Steve Smith to lead the Australian men's Test team

    Pat Cummins has been named the 47th captain of the Australian men’s Test cricket team. Batter and former captain Steve Smith has been named vice-captain of the team.

    Fast bowler Cummins joins an elite club with the honour of leading Australia, stepping into the role after almost two years years as vice-captain.

    The 28-year-old New South Welshman is ranked the world’s number one Test bowler and has gained worldwide respect for his ability, leadership qualities and humility over a decade as a player. He marked ten years since his Test debut against South Africa this month.

    Smith returns to the leadership alongside Cummins. Smith, who made his Test debut in 2010, has been an integral part of the senior playing group in with his growth as a leader and person on and off the field.

    He will assume the captaincy in the event Cummins is absent for any reason.

    Cricket Australia CEO Nick Hockley said:

    “Pat is an outstanding player and leader. He has earned enormous respect from his teammates and from all corners of the game for his attitude and achievements, both on and off the field.

    “We are extremely fortunate to have an experienced group of senior players who themselves are superb leaders. I have no doubt that Pat and Steve will be well supported in their respective leadership roles.”

    Cummins said: “I am honoured to accept this role ahead of what will be a massive Ashes summer. I hope I can provide the same leadership Tim (Paine) has given the group in the past few years.

    “With Steve and I as captains, a number of very senior players in this squad and some great young talent coming through we are a strong and tightly knit group.

    “This is an unexpected privilege which I am very grateful for and am very much looking forward to.”

    Smith said: “I am pleased to return to the leadership of the team and look forward to helping and assisting Pat in any way I can. Pat and I have played together for a long time, so we know our respective styles well.

    “We are also great friends, as is the whole group. As a team, we want to play good, positive cricket and also really enjoy each other’s company. They are exciting times ahead as we focus on the Ashes and beyond.”
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    Come on Patty!

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    My favorite Aussie Patt Cummins gets the job. Best of luck to him.

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    The right choice.

    Good luck Pat. Except against England. Lol

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    In Oct 2021
    Tim Paine: AsHeS wiLl Go aHeaD wHetHEr jOE rOoT iS tHErE oR NOt

    In Dec 2021
    Ashes will go ahead whether Tim Paine is there or not

    Paine without “E” for Paine

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