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    [VIDEO] Audit of explosive audio clip (CJP Nisar on Nawaz Sharif) demanded amid govt backlash



    As the government continues to term the ‘leaked audio clip’ of former chief justice Saqib Nisar allegedly passing instructions to convict former prime minister Nawaz Sharif and his daughter Maryam, opposition quarters, mainly arch-rivals Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) have demanded a forensic audit of the tape to "ascertain facts" behind it.

    On Sunday night, journalist Ahmed Noorani had shared the audio clip claiming that the former CJP had directed his subordinates to send Sharifs to jail “as institutions wanted to bring Imran Khan into power”. Since then, the traditional and social media spaces remained awash with debate over the audio clip.

    The journalist had said that a US-based firm has verified that the voice in the leaked audio clip matched with the retired CJP’s. However, the former top judge of the country has declared it “fabricated”.

    Complicating the issue further a private news channel has claimed that the alleged remarks had been concocted using chunks of Saqib Nisar's previous statements made on different occasions.

    Quoting the latest report, Federal Minister for Industries Hammad Azhar on Tuesday said, "If someone still thinks of the audio clip as not fabricated, then that person should be analysed by a doctor, rather than the analysis of the clip itself."

    Meanwhile, Ahmed Noorani, who had released the clip two days ago, has said that "any statement given by anyone in recent times can be matched with the remarks given in the past", hence suggesting that the matching of some chunks of the explosive tape cannot declare it “fabricated”.

    He further stated that he didn't hide the audio clip, but released it as per the standard practice, and went on to add that the tape, without further delay, should be checked through a forensic to prove whether it was fabricated.

    Supporting the narrative, former prime minister and senior PML-N leader Shahid Khaqan Abbasi said the government should send the audio for forensic, besides "other measures that it may want, but the fact is that the voice in the clip is of the former chief justice".

    "No one has so far said that the voice [in the clip] isn't of the former chief justice," Express News quoted Abbasi as saying.

    He also said that regardless of who made the clip or why, "Nisar should be called in and asked whether or not he made the said remarks".

    According to the veteran politician, it was clear that former prime minister Nawaz Sharif and his daughter were sentenced under a conspiracy.

    Nisar, he added, is himself being heard in the clip saying that he had been ordered to send the duo to prison.

    "The government's ministers and rented spokespersons will continue to hold pressers on the issue," he said and added, "the PML-N doesn't have anything to do with [former Gilgit-Baltistan chief justice] Rana Shamim's oath or Nisar's audio, we just demand justice.

    "We may be punished if we have fabricated the oath or the clip, but if the oath is correct, then Saqib Nisar must be punished, and if it is wrong, then Rana Shamim should be punished, and if the audio clip is fabricated, then Ahmed Noorani should be taken to book," Abbasi concluded.

    Commenting on the development, Minister for Information Fawad Chaudhry had said that the leaks and videos start emerging as soon as the hearing of cases against Sharif and Maryam starts in courts. “The nation is still awaiting the ‘receipts’ that the Sharif family had promised to give in their defence when the Panama Papers scandal had emerged.”

    As the audio clip mentions the name of the incumbent premier, the information minister said that Sharif family did not give a single piece of evidence in their favour but PM Imran presented 40-year-old receipts pertaining to his properties in London.

    Adviser to the PM Shahzad Akbar had also came forward to comment on the controversy, saying “the whole drama” was about hearing of Maryam’s appeal in the Islamabad High Court.

    In a message on the social networking site Twitter, the PM’s aide said that everything would have been normal had the court not heard the appeals and the cases were adjourned as per the wishes of the offender.

    From day one, he alleged, the Sharif family has been using delaying tactics and did not want real facts of the case to be discussed, adding that the funded agenda to make the constitutional institutions controversial was quite an old tactic of the PML-N.

    The audio emerged days after the emergence of an affidavit submitted by the former top judge of the Gilgit Appellate Court, accusing Justice (retd) Nisar of “keeping” former PM Sharif and his daughter in prison till the 2018 general elections.

    https://tribune.com.pk/story/2330729...-govt-backlash
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    The Pakistan Democratic Movement (PDM) – an alliance of opposition parties -- on Tuesday decided that it would intensify its anti-government protest movement, particularly over the recent alleged audio leak of former top judge Saqib Nisar, who could be heard in a conversation with an unknown individual about PML-N leaders Nawaz Sharif and Maryam Nawaz's trial.

    “The judiciary's integrity has come into question after recent allegations from within,” JUI-F chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman, who also heads the alliance, told the media, while referring to the alleged audio leak and the recent affidavit submitted by former Gilgit-Baltistan chief judge Rana Shamim.

    Speaking alongside other PDM leaders after a meeting of the alliance in Islamabad, Fazl said the conspiracies hatched against former premier Nawaz Sharif, his party and the leaders of other political parties were in fact targeting the country and its democracy as well. “We respect the courts, but are also hurt. With a heavy heart, we think that they [judges] will have to regain their status through their character.”

    Speaking about the PDM meeting, Fazl said the alliance would hold its next gathering on December 6 where "final and important decisions” would be made.

    Leaders of all the constituent parties and their representatives attended the meeting, presided over by the PDM chief. Some leaders participated through video link.

    Fazl told the media that unconstitutional laws were passed in the recent joint sitting of parliament and the PDM rejected them.

    He claimed that overseas Pakistanis had been given the right to vote in an awkward manner.
    “We will play a role in guaranteeing that overseas Pakistanis have an honourable representation in parliament."

    The PDM chief also said according to the Constitution, the powers of the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) could not be restricted. "It is totally unacceptable to clip the ECP's wings.”

    Speaking on the law related to the use of electronic voting machines (EVMs) in the next general elections, he said the PDM rejected “this pre-poll rigging”.

    Fazl further maintained that the PTI-led government had turned the State Bank of Pakistan into "branch of the IMF [International Monetary Fund"].

    The JUI-F chief also criticised the “fake” government for promising one 10 million jobs to the people, but instead “stealing over five million” from them so far.

    On the long march and resignations from assemblies, Fazl said the opposition parties would seek the opinions on the matter from their respective working committees.

    “The decisions will be announced on December 6,” he added.
    During the meeting, sources said the participants discussed the alleged audio leak in detail and decided there would be no compromise over the matter.

    In the audio clip, former CJP Nisar is purportedly telling another person that Nawaz and Maryam would have to be punished to make space for Imran Khan in politics.

    The sources said the opposition leaders had decided to raise the issue of the audio leak on a national level.

    The former CJP has described the audio clip as “fabricated” and refused to accept that it was his voice.

    The sources said that the participants were also unable to agree on the date of the long march and resignations from the assemblies.

    They added that the participants had decided to challenge the EVMs and other electoral law passed by the joint sitting in the apex court.

    The PDM leadership has also demanded that general elections be held next year.

    https://tribune.com.pk/story/2330741...beat-govt-with


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    Terming the alleged leaked audiotape of former chief justice Saqib Nisar, wherein he spoke about being told to sentence ex-premier Nawaz Sharif and his daughter Maryam, a “drama”, Prime Minister Imran Khan has said the Sharif family has resorted to attacks on institutions to avoid providing courts money trail for their London properties.

    "Today, an audiotape is under discussion so I thought I should talk about it as well," PM Imran said while addressing participants of the Kamyam Jawan Convention in Islamabad on Wednesday.

    "We can see tapes surfacing, with judges being named," he said, adding, "Let me tell you what this is about... they [Sharifs] are resorting to attacks on institutions because they were asked to respond about the sources of their [offshore] wealth."

    The premier further said, “When I stepped into politics 25 years ago, I had deemed corruption to be the biggest problem of the country.”

    “Nations don’t become poor due to lack of resources; they become poor when prime minister and ministers begin to launder money abroad… They don’t keep it in the country so that they can hide it from the masses.”

    In doing so, he said, they inflict double damage to the country.

    Referring to the Panama Papers leaks, PM said: “Maryam Nawaz was found to be the owner of four flats in London. “However, she was not able to put forth a single document to prove the money trail.”

    This happened, he added, because it was stolen money. After failing to put forth a proof, “they begin to attack the judiciary and the military”.

    “They lied about it in the National Assembly, followed by the fake Qatari letter and the Calibri font saga.”

    He added, “Now they also deem me to be a tyrant.”

    The prime minister said that he also has a flat in London but he provided every proof related to it over a period of 10 months. “I provided 40-year-old contracts related to my flat despite the fact that I was not a public office holder.”

    A nation, he went on to say, cannot continue to stand on its feet when its ethical standards are destroyed. “We cannot reach the place where we want to be unless we lift our moral standards.”

    He further said, “I have no doubts in the capabilities of the nation and I am certain that we will become a great nation.”

    Also read: Maryam says judiciary should not bear burden of ex-CJP’s 'sins'

    Earlier today, Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) Vice-President Maryam Nawaz said that the “leaked audio clip” of ex-CJP Saqib Nisar was proof of his involvement in influencing the case against Nawaz Sharif.

    In a press conference in Islamabad, the PML-N leader said that the former top judge murdered justice and this alleged audio of him proved it beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Maryam said the ex-chief justice will have to answer for his actions. “On whose orders, the former chief justice of Pakistan had to commit an illegal act,” she questioned, adding that he will have to answer to the nation.


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    Apparently a US company has been threatened lol as per Dawn

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    For anyone to fall for this scam from this disgusting family shows their level of intelligence. It wasn't even a good fake, just some mutterings of the Ex CJP put together. The ones done of NS confessing to his criminality were much better

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    Apparently a US company has been threatened lol as per Dawn
    Dawn are an absolute disgrace these days. So sad to see such a publication become a parody. They went all in on the audio and then didn't have the guts to report the fact that it was fake with the same prominence or any thing close. You may want to read up on Maryams confession( which confirmed was genuine) on who got funded by the mafia

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    ISLAMABAD:
    Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) Vice President Maryam Nawaz on Wednesday confirmed the authenticity of a viral audio clip in which she could be heard issuing instructions to someone to stop advertisements to certain TV channels.

    During a press conference earlier in the day, as Maryam took to address the issue of audio clip former chief justice, a reporter asked her if the audio clip doing rounds that contained her voice was authentic.

    Ironically, the confirmation about her own audio clip was made in the same breath as her incrimination about the alleged audio clip of former chief justice of Pakistan Mian Saqib Nisar, which the PML-N leader has keenly picked as a new battle line against the ruling Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf.

    "I am not saying it has been compiled from different [separate] occasions. It is my voice,” Maryam admitted as she maintained that it was an "old" clip from the time she was managing the PML-N's media cell.

    However, she refused to shed further light on the matter, downplaying it on the account that it was not the subject of her presser today and added the issue of her audio clip merited another press conference.

    “I was running the party’s media cell at that time and it is an old audio clip,” she added.

    In the audio that went viral on social media, Maryam can be heard instructing someone that no advertisement will go to certain channels that she named.

    Maryam was talking about party advertisements

    However, the issue spiralled into yet another political controversy and gave new intensity to political tussles, serving as a tool for the ruling party to hit back at the rival party for its usage of the CJP’s alleged audio clip as a rallying cry against the legitimacy of Prime Minister Imran Khan’s government.

    Giving clarifications for the audio clip, PML-N spokesperson Marriyum Aurangzeb stressed that the PML-N vice president was only talking about party advertisements in the audio clip.

    “Decisions related to party advertisements are taken by the party,” she said, urging media not to create an issue out of this.

    Aurangzeb said that Maryam bravely admitted the truth regarding the audio clip, as “there is nothing to hide in this”.

    “When a person has done nothing wrong, they openly admit it,” she said, adding that people should instead talk about the audio clip that has "triggered inflation, unemployment, etc".

    https://tribune.com.pk/story/2331016...ral-audio-clip

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    The thing is, if you wana play dirty thn, the other "people" will also play dirty, mind you , "some people" have alot of audios and videos of almost all of PML-N , including NS and Maryam ......


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    Nani confirmed in her audio that Nooras were using govt money to reward their mafia friends in the media. @Mamoon
    Now you know

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    Only in Pakistan can the opposition be caught and admit to blatant forgery of legal documents, affidavits, voice recordings, lies under oath and then at the end of it all roam freely on the streets of Pakistan as if they are untouchable and they have the gall to accuse the courts and government of victimization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Dawn are an absolute disgrace these days. So sad to see such a publication become a parody. They went all in on the audio and then didn't have the guts to report the fact that it was fake with the same prominence or any thing close. You may want to read up on Maryams confession( which confirmed was genuine) on who got funded by the mafia
    As you live overseas, you obviously dont know anything about the country and for you anyone who post anything against your favourtie leaders party is anti national.


    Dawn is the highest reputated newspaper in Pakistan. Its reputation is as such that even the govt recommends reading dawn newspaper to appear in govt jobs which have tests.

    Also, learn to read a newspaper, dawn dis not report anything from the thin air. They qouted andrew garrett the ceo of the company that examined the tapes.

    Samaa, geo and the news also reported what he said......


    The first and only PM of Pakistan to lose the peoples confidence = Imran Khan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Only in Pakistan can the opposition be caught and admit to blatant forgery of legal documents, affidavits, voice recordings, lies under oath and then at the end of it all roam freely on the streets of Pakistan as if they are untouchable and they have the gall to accuse the courts and government of victimization.
    Only in pakistan does the govt try to threaten the family of a journalist who reprts truth.

    But than again, you being an overseas probably dont care about that because for you the life of that journalist family means nothing as the journalist wrote news which is against your favourite crixket who is pm.


    The first and only PM of Pakistan to lose the peoples confidence = Imran Khan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    As you live overseas, you obviously dont know anything about the country and for you anyone who post anything against your favourtie leaders party is anti national.


    Dawn is the highest reputated newspaper in Pakistan. Its reputation is as such that even the govt recommends reading dawn newspaper to appear in govt jobs which have tests.

    Also, learn to read a newspaper, dawn dis not report anything from the thin air. They qouted andrew garrett the ceo of the company that examined the tapes.

    Samaa, geo and the news also reported what he said......
    So tell me the guy who lives in Pk, how much did Maryam pay from tax payers money to these crooks. Are you saying Maryam was lying when she said the tape was genuine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    Only in pakistan does the govt try to threaten the family of a journalist who reprts truth.

    But than again, you being an overseas probably dont care about that because for you the life of that journalist family means nothing as the journalist wrote news which is against your favourite crixket who is pm.
    Which journalist? Are you talking about Nazim Jokhiyo or Aziz Memon? Did they report the truth? Who killed them?

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    Federal Minister for Broadcasting and Information Fawad Chaudhry has said that the alleged audio of former chief justice of Pakistan Saqib Nisar is irrelevant in the Nawaz Sharif case, as it was heard by 16 judges and the former CJP was not one of them.

    The federal minister said Nawaz Sharif and Maryam Nawaz should present the audio before the court hearing her case.

    "If Maryam Nawaz believes she could elicit help from the audio, she should present it before the bench hearing her case," said Fawad Chaudhry on Geo News programme Naya Pakistan on Saturday.

    It is the job of the judge who is hearing Maryam Nawaz's case to analyse the audio, in case she takes it to court, said the federal minister.

    He also called into question the relevance of the audio. "The audio stands irrelevant as the Panama Papers case was heard by three CJPs, and nearly 16 judges and a trial court," Chaudhry noted.

    Given that so many judges heard the case over stages, the surfacing of audio is thoroughly meaningless, he asserted.

    "Whatever Maryam Nawaz and Safdar Awan say in this regard is irrelevant. The nation wants to know from where you [Sharif family] got the money for billions of rupees worth of constructions that you are currently living in," he continued. "You may answer this question today, tomorrow or afterwards. But if you fail to provide the details, the NAB court will penalise you for corruption under the NAB ordinance."

    The irony, Chaudhry said, is that Nawaz Sharif lives in the apartments, appears from them and gives interviews, but the entire nation wonders if the apartments belong to him or not.

    Related itemsIHC moved to form commission to probe alleged Nisar audio leak, allegations against judiciaryMaryam asks former CJP Nisar who 'pressured' him, whom he 'could not refuse' in Avenfield caseEx-CJ GB Rana Shamim is in ‘direct contact’ with Nawaz Sharif: son

    Commenting on the recent audio leak, the federal minister advised Maryam Nawaz and Captain Safdar to begin an audio/video business as both of them have attained "mastery in filmmaking and editing" and are "not capable enough to do politics".

    Replying to a question about why the government avoided launching a probe over the audio, Chaudhry said it is not an executive-specific matter as the issue is pending before a two-judge bench of the Islamabad High Court (IHC). It is up to the IHC to decide the matter and the government will implement the order as per judicial directives, he added.

    Chaudhry asked why such audios and videos are leaked when a vital case starts. The primary reason for such releases is that they do not want the merit-based verdicts so they get the attention diverted towards leaks, he said, adding that such leaks are let out under a well-planned conspiracy.

    He reiterated that if Maryam Nawaz and Nawaz Sharif consider the audio worthwhile, they should bring it before a judge for evaluation.

    Elaborating on the audio being irrelevant, Chaudhry said the former CJP did not deliver the Panama case verdict. Instead, he said, it was a trial court that heard it and passed the verdict. "Moreover, he [the ex-CJP] had nothing to do with the Panama JIT," he added.

    Even if the audio is right, its assessment is up to the bench that is hearing her case, he repeated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Federal Minister for Broadcasting and Information Fawad Chaudhry has said that the alleged audio of former chief justice of Pakistan Saqib Nisar is irrelevant in the Nawaz Sharif case, as it was heard by 16 judges and the former CJP was not one of them.

    The federal minister said Nawaz Sharif and Maryam Nawaz should present the audio before the court hearing her case.

    "If Maryam Nawaz believes she could elicit help from the audio, she should present it before the bench hearing her case," said Fawad Chaudhry on Geo News programme Naya Pakistan on Saturday.

    It is the job of the judge who is hearing Maryam Nawaz's case to analyse the audio, in case she takes it to court, said the federal minister.

    He also called into question the relevance of the audio. "The audio stands irrelevant as the Panama Papers case was heard by three CJPs, and nearly 16 judges and a trial court," Chaudhry noted.

    Given that so many judges heard the case over stages, the surfacing of audio is thoroughly meaningless, he asserted.

    "Whatever Maryam Nawaz and Safdar Awan say in this regard is irrelevant. The nation wants to know from where you [Sharif family] got the money for billions of rupees worth of constructions that you are currently living in," he continued. "You may answer this question today, tomorrow or afterwards. But if you fail to provide the details, the NAB court will penalise you for corruption under the NAB ordinance."

    The irony, Chaudhry said, is that Nawaz Sharif lives in the apartments, appears from them and gives interviews, but the entire nation wonders if the apartments belong to him or not.

    Related itemsIHC moved to form commission to probe alleged Nisar audio leak, allegations against judiciaryMaryam asks former CJP Nisar who 'pressured' him, whom he 'could not refuse' in Avenfield caseEx-CJ GB Rana Shamim is in ‘direct contact’ with Nawaz Sharif: son

    Commenting on the recent audio leak, the federal minister advised Maryam Nawaz and Captain Safdar to begin an audio/video business as both of them have attained "mastery in filmmaking and editing" and are "not capable enough to do politics".

    Replying to a question about why the government avoided launching a probe over the audio, Chaudhry said it is not an executive-specific matter as the issue is pending before a two-judge bench of the Islamabad High Court (IHC). It is up to the IHC to decide the matter and the government will implement the order as per judicial directives, he added.

    Chaudhry asked why such audios and videos are leaked when a vital case starts. The primary reason for such releases is that they do not want the merit-based verdicts so they get the attention diverted towards leaks, he said, adding that such leaks are let out under a well-planned conspiracy.

    He reiterated that if Maryam Nawaz and Nawaz Sharif consider the audio worthwhile, they should bring it before a judge for evaluation.

    Elaborating on the audio being irrelevant, Chaudhry said the former CJP did not deliver the Panama case verdict. Instead, he said, it was a trial court that heard it and passed the verdict. "Moreover, he [the ex-CJP] had nothing to do with the Panama JIT," he added.

    Even if the audio is right, its assessment is up to the bench that is hearing her case, he repeated.

    Geo
    Why don't the Nooras present the money trail rather sex tapes of judges and fake audios. @Mamoon you were saying

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    Islamabad High Court (IHC) Chief Justice Athar Minallah asked, in the hearing of a petition asking for a Commission of Inquiry to investigate an alleged audio clip of former Chief Justice Saqib Nisar, if the audio is correct, where is the original clip.

    Having such an investigation could lead to anyone bringing an audio clip [to court] tomorrow and asking it be investigated, the IHC CJ said.

    The petition has been filed in the IHC by Sindh High Court Bar President Salahuddin Ahmed and Syed Hyder Imam Rizvi, a member of the Judicial Commission.

    At the start of the hearing, Justice Minallah asked the petitioner to state how the petition is admissible. "Against whom was the writ filed? Your application is related to the audio clip of the present service CJP," he said.

    On the judicial inquiry, the petitioner responded that the petition was not about the present CJP but about the audio clip of a former CJP.

    We will first issue a pre-admission notice to the attorney-general and talk about whether this application is admissible, the IHC CJ said.

    During the case hearing on Monday, Justice Minallah said that the court will not engage in judicial activism and will only consider the facts as they appear in light of the law.

    "The court wants to ensure that this does not open new floodgates," he added.

    Justice Minullah stated that while the judiciary has faced significant challenges and the Bar has fought for the judiciary's independence, we now live in a society where social media is unregulated, to which the petitioner said that it is painful that the audio was leaked and is being discussed on social media too.

    In response to the pre-admission notice, Advocate Salahuddin Ahmed stated that the Pakistan Bar Council has approved a decision, and that if the court finds it necessary, it should also send a notice to the bar council.

    To this, Justice Minallah replied that the court respects him for the rule of law, "You are upset with some audio clips. Who has the authority to record Chief Justice Pakistan's audio tapes?" he asked.

    "Did they [Bar Council] released it [audio tape] or did a man sitting in the United States?" asked the court.

    The court stated that the alleged audiotape is related to a matter that is currently under appeal, and that the parties involved in the audiotape case have shown no interest in bringing it [the case] before the court.

    The hearing of the case has been adjourned for a week.

    Audiotape transcript
    The original audio released by FactFocus carried the following alleged audio of Saqib Nisar, making damning statements on how Nawaz Sharif and Maryam Nawaz were jailed in 2018:

    “Saqib Nisar: Let me be a little blunt about it; unfortunately, here it is the ‘institutions’ who dictate judgments. In this case, we will have to penalize Mian Sahib. And ‘they’ say, “we shall bring Khan Sahib.” Regardless of the merit, we will have to do it, and even to his daughter.

    “Other person: But, in my view, his daughter doesn’t merit a sentence.

    “Saqib Nisar: You are absolutely correct. I did talk to “friends” that something should be done about this but they did not agree. There will be no independence of the judiciary, so let it be...”.

    GEO


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    Today Rana Shamim which was supposed to be another game changer has gone totally pear shaped with the Judge saying he couldn't remember what he wrote in the affidavit 3 weeks earlier.lol
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    Geo are now calling Judge Shamim a liar, I am no legal expert but as its his Affidavit that they are using to attack EX CJP Nisar, doesn't it make it worse for them and the source of the story which is this crooked judge. No honour amongst NSs darbaris @Mamoon @Major

    Judge Minullah was the guy that asked IK to guarantee NSs life and he is presiding over this contempt thing. Its not difficult to predict what he will do but maybe after his humiliation over NS he has grown some moral fibre.

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    ISLAMABAD: The Islamabad High Court (IHC) in a written order issued on Friday on proceedings related to former chief judge of Gilgit-Baltistan (GB) Rana Mohammad Shamim’s affidavit termed the replies submitted by the alleged contemnors ‘evasive’ and declared that charges would be framed against them on Monday in case they failed to submit the original copy of the affidavit.

    The ex-chief judge in his statement had earlier taken the stance that his affidavit might have been ‘leaked’ by the UK’s Notary Public and published by the media. However, the IHC noted that the alleged contemnors had to discharge a heavy onus to satisfy the court about veracity of the published affidavit’s contents that appeared to be ‘false’.

    In a written order, IHC Chief Justice Athar Minallah warned that charges would be framed if the maker of the affidavit, Mr Shamim, the publisher and editor in chief of Jang Group Mir Shakeelur Rehman, senior journalist Ansar Abbasi and resident editor Amer Ghouri failed to show it was executed and published for bona fide purpose.

    Justice Minallah issued the order after going through the reply submitted by Mr Shamim in which he explained reasons for executing the statement on oath that former Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Saqib Nisar had made a call to an IHC judge and asked him not to release former premier Nawaz Sharif and his daughter Maryam Nawaz before the 2018 general election.

    “Perusal of the written reply submitted by Rana Mohammad Shamim shows that he has unequivocally taken the stance that he had neither circulated the affidavit to the press nor ‘shared it with anyone’. He has further stated that ‘I made the statement before the Notary Public at London and while placing the same in a sealed envelope, handed it over to my grandson with a clear instruction that neither he would open it nor share the same with anyone’. It has been stated that the copy of the statement was retained by the Notary Public in London for record,” Justice Minallah noted.

    “It, prima-facie, appears that Rana Mohammad Shamim has suggested that the affidavit may have been leaked, without his consent, by the Notary Public who had notarized his affidavit in London. He has also unambiguously alleged that his affidavit was used for publication by the alleged contemnors, Ansar Abbasi, Aamir Ghouri and Mir Shakeel ur Rehman without his express or tacit consent/approval. If so, then this could have serious consequences for the Notary Public in London as well as the alleged contemnors who appear to have published the contents of the affidavit in haste with the intent to disseminating it widely amongst public at large,” the court order stated.

    ‘Judge named in affidavit was on leave’

    Regarding Mr Shamim’s assertions that he had overheard a phone conservation of ex-CJP Nisar with the IHC judge on July 15, 2018, Justice Minallah observed: “The judge named in the copy of the affidavit attached with the reply was availing sanctioned ex-Pakistan leave and was out of the country on July 15, 2018.”

    According to the IHC order, the timing of news report publication was “crucial” as it related to the appeals fixed for hearing. “It also raises questions regarding the professional conduct of the reporter, editor and publisher of the widely circulated newspaper,” the order stated.

    Subsequently, the court held “it has become crucial for the alleged contemnor, Rana Mohammad Shamim, to produce the original affidavit before the court. Likewise, the veracity of the contents of the affidavit published in the newspaper is questionable and the facts narrated therein do not appear to be probable even to an ordinary person of prudent mind. There are, prima-facie, reasonable grounds to believe that the contents of the affidavit are false and its execution was not for a bona fide purpose.”

    The court stated that the alleged contemnors “have to discharge a heavy onus to satisfy the court regarding bonafides of executing the affidavit in London and its publication without verification of the essential facts. The contents cast unfounded aspersions on the integrity, independence and impartiality of this court and its judges besides prejudicing the right of fair trial of the parties in the pending appeals and tends to interfere with the administration of justice.”

    Justice Minallah termed the replies submitted by the alleged contemnors “evasive” and, prima-facie, unsatisfactory. The IHC warned Mr Shamim to submit original copy of the affidavit or else charges would be framed on December 13.

    Published in Dawn, December 11th, 2021
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    ISLAMABAD: The ongoing controversy regarding the leaked audio clip, allegedly featuring the voice of former chief justice of Pakistan Saqib Nisar, took a new turn after a private channel got a forensic analysis of the controversial clip done by an American company. As per the US company's findings, the clip was doctored and made up of multiple clips.

    An audio clip allegedly featuring former CJP Nisar's voice had surfaced last month, in which he purportedly told another person that former prime minister Nawaz Sharif and his daughter, PML-N leader Maryam Nawaz, would have to be punished to make space for [Prime Minister] Imran Khan in politics.

    Nisar, however, had refused to accept that it was his voice and termed it fabricated. "The audio clip is being falsely associated with me," he had stated.

    The forensic report issued by US company Primeau Forensics stated that changes in the tone of the person speaking in the audio clip in question were observed multiple times.

    According to the report, the person can be heard speaking from a distance in the first 25 seconds of the clip, while in the last 20 seconds, he is speaking from near the recording device, which shows that some of the 45-second clip was recorded in one place and the other at a different place.

    The report further stated that Primeau Forensics holds 30 years of experience in forensic analyses of audio clips and videos and has conducted forensic investigations of 5,000 videos, audio clips, and pictures. It has provided expert opinion to local, governmental, and federal courts in 500 cases and American TV channels, Associated Press, and other big agencies are among its clients.

    When asked about senior journalist Ahmed Noorani's news report, which claimed the audio clip is not fabricated, the forensics company stated that the clip comprises bits taken from more than a single source, recorded in two different environments.

    Speaking about the development to a private TV channel, former top judge Nisar said: "Thanks to the Almighty that the truth has been revealed today."

    'Propaganda continues'

    Meanwhile, Noorani has said that the "propaganda in Pakistan continues" as the news channels who had "refuted" his news story in the first place are continuing to do it.

    "My story on Saqib Nisar audio was based on a forensic analysis conducted by a credible US firm. The forensic firm was threatened by thousands of people from Pakistan to change the report but they always confirmed that they worked with Fact Focus," Noorani tweeted.

    No one ever tried to contact him to get the audio clip he had with him, Noorani lamented.

    Noorani went on to say that he is all geared up to issue the Pakistani news channels a legal notice for "spreading lies" if they run a news story against him or his story in the United Kingdom or the US.

    'Continuity of forgery by PML-N'

    Adviser to the Prime Minister on Accountability and Interior Mirza Shahzad Akbar, meanwhile, said while speaking to APP that a reputed forensic audit company had confirmed that the audio leak of former CJP Justice Saqib Nisar was made up of multiple audio clips, which is a continuity of forgery by the PML-N and its attack on different institutions.

    He said that a private TV channel has conducted good investigative journalism.

    The adviser said the PML-N attempted to take advantage of the Calibri font, audio leak, and affidavit of former chief judge of Gilgit-Baltistan Rana Shamim. "They [PML-N] do not answer to the basic query and attempt for forgery and falsification," he added.

    "Maryam Nawaz calls for her acquittal on the basis of this audio clip but they don't present anything [evidence] before the court because they understand that they will get punishment if they did so in the same way they presented the [documents written in] Calibri font," he said.

    He said journalist Ahmed Noorani should be questioned about this audio release

    GEO
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    The Qatari letter, Calibri font, the affidavit from Shamim and this audio have something common, what do you want to confess Maryam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    The Qatari letter, Calibri font, the affidavit from Shamim and this audio have something common, what do you want to confess Maryam?
    First they were exposed as crooks and liars so they came up with the "crooked but competitive' argument. They were were then shown to be both crooked and incompetent so then they go back to being liars.

    When will some people realise that these mafia crooks dressed up as political parties are the root cause of all the problems within Pakistan.

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    WASHINGTON: Primeau Forensics, a US forensic audit company, confirmed on Wednesday it had inspected an audiotape forwarded by a Pakistani television channel, but said it could not share details of its report with the media.

    “It was a specific thing that we did for our client and we are not discussing it with anyone,” a company representative told Dawn. “We have no press release.”

    He said the client, ARY News, had the report and “only they can share the details with others”.

    A report released in Islamabad claimed that ARY News had asked Primeau Forensics to do a forensic analysis of an audio leak of the former chief justice of Pakistan Saqib Nisar.

    In this audio, two persons can be heard discussing cases against PML-N leader Nawaz Sharif and his daughter Maryam Nawaz. Reports in the Pakistani media claimed that one of the persons was Mr Nisar, the former chief justice.

    Refuses to divulge details of its report

    According to ARY News, the audit of this 45-second file showed two “reverberences” in the voice as the person spoke from two different locations. The voice was clearer during the last 20 seconds as it came from a closer range.

    ARY News claimed that when it asked Primeau Forensics if the recording was of the original conversation or came from an edited tape, the company said the two parts of 20 and 25 seconds each were recorded in a different environment.

    The company told ARY News that it believed “the unknown Fact Focus clip was generated from at least two different sources”.

    They observed “two different reverberences, indicating that the first portion of the audio was likely recorded in a different environment than the second portion”.

    Primeau Forensics is based in Rochester Hills, Michigan. A post on its website says that its experts have processed over 5,000 audio, video and image forensic investigations and provided expert testimony in over 500 cases in local, state and federal courts.

    It claims to have 30 years of experience in this field, working for attorney generals of multiple US States, CNN, AP and other major organisations. ARY News claimed that it had paid Rs1 million for the audit.

    Published in Dawn, December 16th, 2021


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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    First they were exposed as crooks and liars so they came up with the "crooked but competitive' argument. They were were then shown to be both crooked and incompetent so then they go back to being liars.

    When will some people realise that these mafia crooks dressed up as political parties are the root cause of all the problems within Pakistan.


    Translated urdu poetry bit means "and you still don't feel any shame"


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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    First they were exposed as crooks and liars so they came up with the "crooked but competitive' argument. They were were then shown to be both crooked and incompetent so then they go back to being liars.

    When will some people realise that these mafia crooks dressed up as political parties are the root cause of all the problems within Pakistan.
    I remember some loser on here that couldn't find a reason to justify his support for the mafia and decided that he will try the crooked but competent mantra,the only problem was that they couldn't give examples of competency and ran from their crookedness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    First they were exposed as crooks and liars so they came up with the "crooked but competitive' argument. They were were then shown to be both crooked and incompetent so then they go back to being liars.

    When will some people realise that these mafia crooks dressed up as political parties are the root cause of all the problems within Pakistan.
    Who are the good guys than?

    We have a govt right now that thinks preaching religion will make us better. He is still stuck in old times.


    The first and only PM of Pakistan to lose the peoples confidence = Imran Khan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    Who are the good guys than?

    We have a govt right now that thinks preaching religion will make us better. He is still stuck in old times.
    So when "corrupt but competent" and "living in the west narrative get flop" then turn to 'preaching religion'.

    Isn't pervertizing religion caused many current issues? Preaching the correct and tolerance version may help to improve current situation, how is that a issue?

    Pakistan won't turn to atheism over night, Islam is a reality in Pakistan and government should take every initiative to preach and be loud about the correct and tolerance of Islam.

    I have not seen any other government taken such initiative since Zia decided to hijack Islam for political purpose.
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    Minister of State for Information Farrukh Habib castigated the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) for “blackmailing media” after an alleged audiotape of PML-N Vice President and former information minister Pervaiz Rashid emerged on Tuesday.

    In the un-dated leaked clip, the PML-N leaders are purportedly discussing a current affairs show, over its alleged “bias” against the PML-N government. The audio was run by two local tv channels.

    In the clip, Rashid can be allegedly heard saying that Hasan Nisar is part of the show “who abuses us a lot”. Maryam allegedly interjects, saying now journalist Irshad Bhatti is also added to the programme. Bhatti also uses “vulgar language”, Rashid allegedly adds.

    Rashid also mentions Babar Sattar, who used to be a part of the TV show before his appointment to high court as a judge, calling him an independent journalist.

    As per the clip, the authenticity of which could not be verified at this point, the PML-N leaders also mention journalist Mazhar Abbas. Rashid purportedly says that Mazhar is “tilted against us” and sometimes spins things to ridicule the PML-N.

    "Nobody there can be called our spokesperson,” Rashid allegedly adds. [Analyst Hafeezullah Niazi] did not propagate our narrative but the way they abuse us [PML-N] ... he would treat Imran Khan the same way,” the clip adds.

    Now they have removed him from the show and discontinued his column in the newspaper, the PML-N leader purportedly says.

    Read PDM to use ‘audio leak’ stick to beat govt with

    Maryam allegedly responds that she would ask Niazi and the news organisation's editor-in-chief about the removal of Niazi from the show.

    "[At this pace] It will become an imbalanced programme. If there was a check on Imran Khan, you have ended it and [unleashed] barking dogs on us," Rashid allegedly says in reference to the show.

    "Indeed, this is bias," Maryam purportedly agrees.

    At the end of the clip, Maryam can allegedly be heard giving instructions about sending gift baskets to journalists Nusrat Javeed and Rana Jawad.

    'Experts of blackmail'

    In response to the alleged clip of the PML-N leaders, Farrukh said that the PML-N had vast experience and expert in blackmailing and controlling freedom of media.

    Talking to a private news channel, he condemned the alleged audio leaks of Maryam Nawaz and former federal minister for Information and Broadcasting Pervaiz Rashid. He said the PML-N always kept the media under pressure to use it for their vested interests.

    To a question, Farrukh Habib said that PML-N had always curbed the freedom of media, which spoke against them in the past. The minister said that this audio has exposed how they were "playing tricks to control the freedom of media".

    With additional reporting from APP


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Minister of State for Information Farrukh Habib castigated the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) for “blackmailing media” after an alleged audiotape of PML-N Vice President and former information minister Pervaiz Rashid emerged on Tuesday.

    In the un-dated leaked clip, the PML-N leaders are purportedly discussing a current affairs show, over its alleged “bias” against the PML-N government. The audio was run by two local tv channels.

    In the clip, Rashid can be allegedly heard saying that Hasan Nisar is part of the show “who abuses us a lot”. Maryam allegedly interjects, saying now journalist Irshad Bhatti is also added to the programme. Bhatti also uses “vulgar language”, Rashid allegedly adds.

    Rashid also mentions Babar Sattar, who used to be a part of the TV show before his appointment to high court as a judge, calling him an independent journalist.

    As per the clip, the authenticity of which could not be verified at this point, the PML-N leaders also mention journalist Mazhar Abbas. Rashid purportedly says that Mazhar is “tilted against us” and sometimes spins things to ridicule the PML-N.

    "Nobody there can be called our spokesperson,” Rashid allegedly adds. [Analyst Hafeezullah Niazi] did not propagate our narrative but the way they abuse us [PML-N] ... he would treat Imran Khan the same way,” the clip adds.

    Now they have removed him from the show and discontinued his column in the newspaper, the PML-N leader purportedly says.

    Read PDM to use ‘audio leak’ stick to beat govt with

    Maryam allegedly responds that she would ask Niazi and the news organisation's editor-in-chief about the removal of Niazi from the show.

    "[At this pace] It will become an imbalanced programme. If there was a check on Imran Khan, you have ended it and [unleashed] barking dogs on us," Rashid allegedly says in reference to the show.

    "Indeed, this is bias," Maryam purportedly agrees.

    At the end of the clip, Maryam can allegedly be heard giving instructions about sending gift baskets to journalists Nusrat Javeed and Rana Jawad.

    'Experts of blackmail'

    In response to the alleged clip of the PML-N leaders, Farrukh said that the PML-N had vast experience and expert in blackmailing and controlling freedom of media.

    Talking to a private news channel, he condemned the alleged audio leaks of Maryam Nawaz and former federal minister for Information and Broadcasting Pervaiz Rashid. He said the PML-N always kept the media under pressure to use it for their vested interests.

    To a question, Farrukh Habib said that PML-N had always curbed the freedom of media, which spoke against them in the past. The minister said that this audio has exposed how they were "playing tricks to control the freedom of media".

    With additional reporting from APP

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    ^^ so you are proudly sharing this audio but dont have a problem wit the fact that intelligence agencies are now recoridng and tapping in our conversations


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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    ^^ so you are proudly sharing this audio but dont have a problem wit the fact that intelligence agencies are now recoridng and tapping in our conversations
    How do you know its intelligence agencies? And BTW do you still believe that ex CJP Nisar is genuine?

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    @Major
    Who recorded Judge Malik? Who blackmailed him? Once again you side with the criminals and show that you are hypocrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    How do you know its intelligence agencies? And BTW do you still believe that ex CJP Nisar is genuine?
    again, you still have no issue with intelligence agencies tapping into the phones of people and talk about insaf...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    again, you still have no issue with intelligence agencies tapping into the phones of people and talk about insaf...
    No, I just wish they do more of if to keep criminals in check. Isn't it their job to do this. So back to the Nisar tape, who made that( it's fake but you believed it), aren't you worried that the criminals were tapping the phone of the CJP? Who made the Judge Malik tape? That didn't wake up up but as soon as the mafia are given the treatment you start to worry, why is that? Your a proper hypocrite

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    @Major
    Halal or haraam leaks? Your hypocrisy laid bare

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    Almost a month after this scribe cited exclusive evidence and reported that former Gilgit-Baltistan chief justice Rana Shamim took the oath and signed an affidavit in the office of none other than Nawaz Sharif, audio evidence came to the fore on Wednesday, confirming the veracity of the evidence finally.

    The recordings have been forensically analysed by audio experts who found no evidence of tampering or manipulation, thus substantiating the evidence cited by the report.

    A story published in The Express Tribune on Dec 26 had cited unspecified evidence and quoted Charles D. Guthrie — the London-based solicitor who had notarised Shamim's affidavit — as saying that the document was notarised at an office in Stanhope Place in Marble Arch, London.

    The report had sparked hue and cry as well as suspicions over the credibility of the said evidence, which had been by then still under the wraps and withheld by the scribe.

    Now, in light of the above, a detailed forensic analysis of the audio evidence is being released, extracts of which are available on the “Irfan Hashmi Official” YouTube channel.

    The audio evidence has been forensically analysed by Joseph Naghdi, UK’s top forensic expert, who declared it to be “genuine, unadulterated, wholesome, and unedited.”

    “I, Joseph Naghdi, confirm that the audio recording “Voice 001.m4a' is genuine, unadulterated, wholesome, and unedited. The examined audio waveform does not indicate any tampering or edit in its audio stream,” confirmed Mr Naghdi.

    A thorough comparative inspection was carried out on two different samples to ascertain whether the waveform patterns matched.

    The comparison showed that both voices, taken from two different sources, do match and belong to the same person who is identified as Charles Guthrie of ‘Charles Guthrie & Co Legal Ltd’, Golden Cross House, 8 Duncannon Street, London, WC2N 4JF, UK.

    Contrary to the norm in Pakistani media where mudslinging is never backed by any credible evidence, the evidence cited by this scribe had been sent to a top forensic lab in the UK and had been analysed for its credibility before being published.

    TV appearance helped in authenticating evidence

    The forensic inspection further proves that the audio conversation did in fact take between Mr Guthrie and the reporter himself. The voice analysis has been done by placing it in comparison with the audio of a much-cited video interview on a TV channel that Mr Guthrie gave publicly.

    The interview served for the forensic investigation as a much-needed audio comparison, which was previously difficult. It is pertinent to note that the evidence was secured before Charles Guthrie gave the interview, which is also available on YouTube and other social media platforms.

    Saqib Nisar’s forensically controversial audio

    Two different companies gave different versions of the controversial leaked audio allegedly belonging to Justice (r) Saqib Nisar. One of the companies had declared it a fake. On the contrary, the audio of Mr Charles Guthrie has been certified by UK’s top forensic firm.

    As a computer forensic investigator, expert witness (civil and criminal), Mr Naghdi has extensive experience in capturing, analyzing examining electronically stored information and reporting on it by making use of the current and technologically advanced hardware/software tools.

    The forensic expert has been also assisting law firms, police forces, government agencies, local councils, fraud investigators, insurance companies, private individuals and financial institutions with digital forensic investigations since 2007. Joseph also worked with BBC World Service in 1996 as a Producer.

    Guthrie on the spot: “No comments”

    Meanwhile, ever since these revelations came to light, Mr Guthrie has switched off his phone and has declined to offer any comment. In fact, when he was asked in a different interview about the place Shamim signed the affidavit at, Mr Guthrie responded: “No comments”.

    The scribe also notes that Mr Guthrie volunteered this information.

    Five excerpts from the audio made public

    In the five audio clips, Charles Guthrie can be heard confirming that Rana Shamim was indeed present at Marble Arch.

    Mr Guthrie confirmed his information three times.

    “The judge guy was in Nawaz Sharif’s office.” When asked in the audio “That was which office? Like here in London?”, Guthrie responds “Marble Arch.”

    In the audio clip, Guthrie was further asked: “He was in Nawaz Sharif’s office? They were like quite cozy when they were in there?”

    To that, the notary replied “Very… yeah.”

    In the audio, Charles Guthrie also said: “That is one of his mates you know what I mean. When Nawaz Sharif was Prime Minister “I will make you the head judge in Pakistan and that type of thing.” And if you've been the head judge, ruled over 10 to 15 years, so he was one of his friends”

    Another startling revelation that the Notary made was that he has never read the documents.

    These disclosures and evidence raise several questions: 1) Was Rana Shamim was under duress? 2) Who invited Rana Shamim to visit London? 3) Where did he stay in London? 4) Who sponsored his visit? 5) Can Rana Shamim produce hotel receipts that he paid for from his pocket? 6) Who received him from the airport? 7) Who introduced him to Charles Guthrie? 8) Who leaked the affidavit as denied by Charles Guthrie?

    Complete silence in the Sharif house

    Ever since the evidence against Rana Shamim’s affidavit was published, there has been no rebuttal or denial from either member of the PML-N or from Charles Guthrie himself.

    Several attempts have been made to contact both parties for a comment which have gone unanswered.

    Nasir Butt, a close aide of PML-N supremo, refrained from making any comment on it by saying: “Hamein Mana Kiya Gaya Hai (We have been forbidden to speak with you). He was approached outside Hassan Nawaz’s office for comment from Nawaz Sharif.

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