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    Credit to the Aussies, they were superb and outplayed us from the first ball onwards.

    The next Test is a day-night so England might come back.

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    Congratulations, Australia.

    I thought England would do better after how they played yesterday.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Averages 38 in county cricket. Some genius. Buttler is a lot better against pace.
    Uhhhh.

    Have you seen him behind the stumps? Best in the world. He might not get as many runs but he will deprive the opposition of more.

    But for some reason batsmen get given the gloves now instead proper keepers. So we get drop machines like Buttler.

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    Buttler is a flat track bully. Foakes is not a bully in any conditions. Had he given consistent run, he won't have even averaged 30 in test cricket.

    England's best bet with bat in these conditions at the moment seems to be Buttler after Root, although he needs to stop fishing on 5th stump delivery.
    Last edited by Ab Fan; 11th December 2021 at 13:11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    Congratulations, Australia.

    I thought England would do better after how they played yesterday.
    Yeah, I had the idea that the overnight pair would go fast and then the rest would collapse.

    Not sure what I would have done differently were I Root, except pick Broad for Woakes.

    They got no practice and nobody has been hitting red ball since September.

    Just got to write it off as the practice match they didn’t get and refocus for the next one. England do have a habit of bouncing back hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    Foakes is not a bully in any conditions. Had he given consistent run, he won't have even averaged 30 in test cricket.

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    I don’t see that as an issue.

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    To be honest a number seven batter getting 39 and 23 in a Test along with keeping wicket competently isn’t such a bad effort. It shouldn’t be down to Buttler to be constantly thrashing out centuries because the top order is failing in every innings. He needs a better platform to work with.

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    England have been fined 100 per cent of their match fees and penalised five ICC World Test Championship points for maintaining slow over-rates in the first Ashes Test in Brisbane.

    Australia's Travis Head has also been fined 15% of his match fee for use of an audible obscenity.

    As per Article 16.11.2 of the ICC World Test Championship playing conditions, a team is docked one point for each over short.

    Match referee David Boon has also penalized England 100% of their match fee for falling five overs short of the targets after adjusting for time allowances. Article 2.22 of the ICC Code of Conduct for Players and Player Support Personnel charges players 20% of their match fee for every over the team falls short on.

    The Player of the Match from the first Test, Head was fined 15% of his match fee for breaching Article 2.3 of the ICC Code of Conduct for Players and Player Support Personnel, relating to “use of an audible obscenity during an International Match.” He also received one demerit point, which is his first offence in a 24-month period.

    The incident occurred in the 77th over of Australia’s first innings, when Head used inappropriate language after being beaten by Ben Stokes. There was no formal hearing after the southpaw admitted the offence and accepted the sanctions.

    Australia won the first Test of the Ashes comfortably by 9 wickets. The hosts reduced England to 147 on the opening day before a sensational knock of 152 from just 148 balls by Head propelled them to 425, with a lead of 278 runs.

    Resistance from Joe Root and Dawid Malan took England through to stumps on day three but the rest of the batting line-up crumbled in the first session of day four, setting Australia a target of 20. They lost Carey off the penultimate delivery of the match but Marcus Harris finished the game off with a four as Australia took the 1-0 lead.

    The next Test is set to commence on 16 December at the Adelaide Oval.


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    Bizarre team selection by England.

    No Anderson, no Broad and they play a spinner who struggled.

    Out played, outfought and outclassed.



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    This rotation policy is clearly not working in Tests.
    No Anderson or Broad in the first Test is beyond comprehension.

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    Think it was the right decision to 'rest' Anderson for this Test as he needs to be fresh for the day-nighter in Adelaide, which is England's best chance of winning. But given the conditions on day 1, it seemed utterly nonsensical to leave out Broad.

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    Updated points table:



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    All teams collapse these days. But England takes it to a whole new level. Besides the actual total team low-scores, they also tend to collapse from a good position. 8 for 74 in the 2nd dig.

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    The entire England team is stripped of their £12,500 match fees for slow over rates at the Gabba. This seems to be unprecedented. Also docked 5 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Monetarist View Post
    Think it was the right decision to 'rest' Anderson for this Test as he needs to be fresh for the day-nighter in Adelaide, which is England's best chance of winning. But given the conditions on day 1, it seemed utterly nonsensical to leave out Broad.
    For next test, I think England should go with four pacers as it is pink ball test.

    James Anderson
    Mark Wood
    Ollie Robinson
    Chris Woakes

    And 7 genuine batsmen like it was in this test.

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    https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket...fe8e7ae51d565c

    Travis head was fined 15% for using an obscene word.

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    Why is it assumed England have a better chance in the Day/Night Tests ?

    The ball may do a bit more for their bowlers - but how are their batsmen going to cope when they're struggling facing a normal red ball ?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Why is it assumed England have a better chance in the Day/Night Tests ?

    The ball may do a bit more for their bowlers - but how are their batsmen going to cope when they're struggling facing a normal red ball ?!
    I don't think they will win but I'd argue they have a better chance because a sub-300 score might be more competitive in a pink ball Test than in a conventional Test match with the red ball. This England team aren't capable enough of accumulating large totals in Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Monetarist View Post
    Think it was the right decision to 'rest' Anderson for this Test as he needs to be fresh for the day-nighter in Adelaide, which is England's best chance of winning. But given the conditions on day 1, it seemed utterly nonsensical to leave out Broad.
    Pretty much this.

    Broad’s stock has risen as a cricketer without even having to play a minute of a Test match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    For next test, I think England should go with four pacers as it is pink ball test.

    James Anderson
    Mark Wood
    Ollie Robinson
    Chris Woakes

    And 7 genuine batsmen like it was in this test.
    I'll want to keep Wood in reserve for Boxing Day given that his pace will be desperately needed at the MCG. So I'd probably play a spinner or Broad, depending on the state of the pitch at the Adelaide Oval.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Why is it assumed England have a better chance in the Day/Night Tests ?

    The ball may do a bit more for their bowlers - but how are their batsmen going to cope when they're struggling facing a normal red ball ?!
    The D/N Tests provide England with their most likely match conditions for dismissing Australia for a low score. Given that England themselves rarely pass 300 in Test cricket nowadays, the pink ball under lights could be viewed as a bit of a leveller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Monetarist View Post
    I'll want to keep Wood in reserve for Boxing Day given that his pace will be desperately needed at the MCG. So I'd probably play a spinner or Broad, depending on the state of the pitch at the Adelaide Oval.
    I don't think a spinner and particularly the ones that England have now are any bit good to get a pink ball test match. The game will most likely be done by 3rd or 4th day first session so better to go with four pacers and keep Root as the only spin option to cover up for over rate concerns.

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    'Shades of 06-07': Ponting's warning for England
    An Ashes whitewash reminiscent of the 2006-07 series is on the cards unless England can win in Adelaide, says Ricky Ponting, who believes the visitors blew their best opportunity of the series to win a Test.

    Batting collapses either side of Joe Root and Dawid Malan's 161-run second-innings stand, along with Travis Head's rapid 152, effectively consigned England to the familiar position of being 0-1 down after the first Test of an Ashes tour.The only welcome news for Root's side on Saturday was confirmation the series will conclude with a second day-night Test and be held in Hobart, a venue that has tended towards assisting skilful seam bowlers during recent Sheffield Shield seasons.

    Many have suggested England's best hopes of an early Ashes victory will be in the second Vodafone Test in Adelaide where the swinging pink ball at night best resembles their often tough home Test batting conditions.An Ashes whitewash reminiscent of the 2006-07 series is on the cards unless England can win in Adelaide, says Ricky Ponting, who believes the visitors blew their best opportunity of the series to win a Test.

    Batting collapses either side of Joe Root and Dawid Malan's 161-run second-innings stand, along with Travis Head's rapid 152, effectively consigned England to the familiar position of being 0-1 down after the first Test of an Ashes tour.
    England collapse as ruthless Aussies claim first Test

    The only welcome news for Root's side on Saturday was confirmation the series will conclude with a second day-night Test and be held in Hobart, a venue that has tended towards assisting skilful seam bowlers during recent Sheffield Shield seasons.

    Many have suggested England's best hopes of an early Ashes victory will be in the second Vodafone Test in Adelaide where the swinging pink ball at night best resembles their often tough home Test batting conditions.

    But Ponting suggested the sporting Gabba track played into their hands more than they will at Adelaide Oval, where England lost by 120 runs in 2017-18 despite their pacemen proving tough to play under lights.

    "The conditions are only going to get better for Australia," the former Test captain told cricket.com.au. "Those conditions (in Brisbane) were very English like.

    "There was more pace and bounce but as far as their bowling is concerned, they're probably not going to get that much movement anywhere else for the entire series."We saw them bowl really well on the last tour in Adelaide under lights where everything just fell perfectly into place – Australia had to bat for a session, the lights were on, brand new ball, clear night.

    "We've also been to Adelaide at other times when the pink ball has done nothing, whether it's a new ball or not.

    "If they don't win in Adelaide then there could be shades of '06-07."

    Ponting reiterated his belief England made a major selection error in picking Chris Woakes over Jimmy Anderson and Stuart Broad at the Gabba.With seamer Ollie Robinson and speedster Mark Wood both impressing with the ball, and Root emphasising after the match that England are eager to maintain "variety" in their bowling attack, it would appear Broad and Anderson cannot both play in the second Test unless they do not play a spinner.

    Jack Leach's 13 overs were pulverised for 1-102 as part of an Australian tactic to smash him out of the attack at all costs, and Ponting suggested he could make way for Dom Bess after the off-spinner took six wickets in the ongoing England Lions-Australia A match in Brisbane.A further consideration for England will be the fitness of Ben Stokes, who was also expensive in Brisbane and could not bowl at full pace at times as he struggled with a knee concern.

    "I can't see why they would have left them (Broad and Anderson) out if they weren't just getting them prepped and ready for Adelaide," said Ponting.

    "I'm still staggered to this point now. If Stuart Broad and James Anderson are not better bowlers in Australia than Chris Woakes, then I'm not here. One of those two had to play.

    "It might be that they're only going to play one of Broad or Anderson in Adelaide. A lot of it might just depend on how Stokes pulls up between now and the start of the Adelaide game."

    Having endorsed Usman Khawaja as Australia's replacement opener if David Warner is unable to recover from the rib injury that kept him from fielding and batting in the fourth Innings, Ponting tipped Jhye Richardson over Michael Neser to be the next man if the hosts are forced into changing their bowling attack.An Ashes whitewash reminiscent of the 2006-07 series is on the cards unless England can win in Adelaide, says Ricky Ponting, who believes the visitors blew their best opportunity of the series to win a Test.

    Batting collapses either side of Joe Root and Dawid Malan's 161-run second-innings stand, along with Travis Head's rapid 152, effectively consigned England to the familiar position of being 0-1 down after the first Test of an Ashes tour.
    England collapse as ruthless Aussies claim first Test

    The only welcome news for Root's side on Saturday was confirmation the series will conclude with a second day-night Test and be held in Hobart, a venue that has tended towards assisting skilful seam bowlers during recent Sheffield Shield seasons.

    Many have suggested England's best hopes of an early Ashes victory will be in the second Vodafone Test in Adelaide where the swinging pink ball at night best resembles their often tough home Test batting conditions.

    But Ponting suggested the sporting Gabba track played into their hands more than they will at Adelaide Oval, where England lost by 120 runs in 2017-18 despite their pacemen proving tough to play under lights.

    "The conditions are only going to get better for Australia," the former Test captain told cricket.com.au. "Those conditions (in Brisbane) were very English like.

    "There was more pace and bounce but as far as their bowling is concerned, they're probably not going to get that much movement anywhere else for the entire series.
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    "We saw them bowl really well on the last tour in Adelaide under lights where everything just fell perfectly into place – Australia had to bat for a session, the lights were on, brand new ball, clear night.

    "We've also been to Adelaide at other times when the pink ball has done nothing, whether it's a new ball or not.

    "If they don't win in Adelaide then there could be shades of '06-07."

    Ponting reiterated his belief England made a major selection error in picking Chris Woakes over Jimmy Anderson and Stuart Broad at the Gabba.
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    With seamer Ollie Robinson and speedster Mark Wood both impressing with the ball, and Root emphasising after the match that England are eager to maintain "variety" in their bowling attack, it would appear Broad and Anderson cannot both play in the second Test unless they do not play a spinner.

    Jack Leach's 13 overs were pulverised for 1-102 as part of an Australian tactic to smash him out of the attack at all costs, and Ponting suggested he could make way for Dom Bess after the off-spinner took six wickets in the ongoing England Lions-Australia A match in Brisbane.
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    A further consideration for England will be the fitness of Ben Stokes, who was also expensive in Brisbane and could not bowl at full pace at times as he struggled with a knee concern.

    "I can't see why they would have left them (Broad and Anderson) out if they weren't just getting them prepped and ready for Adelaide," said Ponting.

    "I'm still staggered to this point now. If Stuart Broad and James Anderson are not better bowlers in Australia than Chris Woakes, then I'm not here. One of those two had to play.

    "It might be that they're only going to play one of Broad or Anderson in Adelaide. A lot of it might just depend on how Stokes pulls up between now and the start of the Adelaide game."

    Having endorsed Usman Khawaja as Australia's replacement opener if David Warner is unable to recover from the rib injury that kept him from fielding and batting in the fourth Innings, Ponting tipped Jhye Richardson over Michael Neser to be the next man if the hosts are forced into changing their bowling attack.
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    Josh Hazlewood is nursing a rib concern and will need to prove his fitness for Adelaide.

    "Richardson was obviously very close to playing this Test instead of Starc. He's in great form," said Ponting, noting that Neser had taken a five-wicket haul against the England Lions this week.

    "When the ball's not swinging and seaming, I'd have him ahead of Neser as far as an all-round bowling package is concerned.

    "Neser obviously thrives in swinging, seaming conditions that he gets at the Gabba – and might get at some stage in Adelaide – but I still think Richardson gets the nod (if required)."

    Ponting also believes Cameron Green is ready to shoulder a greater workload with the ball, having impressed with three wickets in the match, including the key breakthrough of Root on day four as he swung the old ball away from the touring skipper.His scalp of Ollie Pope on day one marked his first Test wicket despite having played all four Tests against India last summer.

    "I know he was on bowling restrictions last summer but I think he's a bit underused," said Ponting. "Anytime he had the ball in his hand in Brisbane, something was happening.

    "Even with the old ball he got some swing. He bowls with the newer ball for WA, he's a noted swing bowler and he (regularly) gets the opportunity with a newer ball (in the Sheffield Shield).

    "Going somewhere like Adelaide where there might be some movement, I'd give him a bit more of a crack as well.

    "You look at him now and you think you can easily lock him in for 15 (overs) an innings.

    "Speaking to 'JL, (Australia coach Justin Langer) he talks about 'wait until he fully grows into his body and his body lets him bowl the way he can bowl' … he looks like a good prospect to me."

    https://www.cricket.com.au/news/rick...ars/2021-12-11

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    Current English side at is Nadir. To compound the problem they are being led by an average captain. They need a few south african players now to get back on track

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    To be honest a number seven batter getting 39 and 23 in a Test along with keeping wicket competently isn’t such a bad effort. It shouldn’t be down to Buttler to be constantly thrashing out centuries because the top order is failing in every innings. He needs a better platform to work with.
    I think you're right. There's really only Gilchrist who has done that in Tests regularly. Even guys like Dhoni avg <40 in Tests & managed 6 tons in 140 innings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Bizarre team selection by England.

    No Anderson, no Broad and they play a spinner who struggled.

    Out played, outfought and outclassed.
    Not Rooty's finest hour.

    Batting first backfired hugely.

    Everyone is a little bit mystified about why BOTH Broad & Anderson were out.

    Fair enough if Jimmy was injured but Broad has is usually a pretty strong Ashes player -one who has actually come up with a few matchwinning spells on his own- and he's taken the odd bag in Brisbane already... Brisbane where it can be very humid & swing & the pitch seams and bounces... isn't that exactly Broad's skill set?

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