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    [VIDEO] "We have no alternate to a Departmental System that was running for so many years" : Misbah

    Misbah says that there needs to be a review of the current system which replaced the Departmental System:



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    Wow, Misbah just who to butter and when.


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    Now IK will understand what he did for this traitor.

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    Tbf, Misbah was vocal about departments since the beginning. He even mentioned it to Imran Khan during his meeting along with Waseem Khan and Ehsan Mani.
    Thing is 30 teams are just too much and 6 too less. Need to find the right balance of teams where there are no freeloaders in case of too many teams and also up and coming players can’t get into the team because of veterans still occupying the spots in case of just 6 teams.

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    Misbah wants things to stay as they were. Who is surprised?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shujaatraza View Post
    Tbf, Misbah was vocal about departments since the beginning. He even mentioned it to Imran Khan during his meeting along with Waseem Khan and Ehsan Mani.
    Thing is 30 teams are just too much and 6 too less. Need to find the right balance of teams where there are no freeloaders in case of too many teams and also up and coming players can’t get into the team because of veterans still occupying the spots in case of just 6 teams.
    I believe Misbah and Hafeez met Imran Khan on this issue as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    I believe Misbah and Hafeez met Imran Khan on this issue as well.
    Yeah I was referring to the same meeting. Forgot Hafeez and Azhar Ali were there as well.

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    Misbah is an astute observer of the game on and off the field. Some good comments from him especially regarding Departments spending close to 1 Billion PKR on the domestic game. The question is, how will this money be replaced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daytrader View Post
    Misbah is an astute observer of the game on and off the field. Some good comments from him especially regarding Departments spending close to 1 Billion PKR on the domestic game. The question is, how will this money be replaced?
    Question would be that how was that money spent when the quality of products were not shaping up to be international quality more often then not. Someone like Abdullah Shafique didnt play any domestic cricket for whole 1 year in departmental cricket (He never got a contract I believe from any department) after he graduated from U19 level. Now he is scoring runs at test level, so there was definitely something wrong with the way things were run. Money was being invested into 18 or so teams and around 400 players and yet the best young talent we have had in the last decade or so came from junior level progression of the PCB and nothing much to rave about from the department side as they didnt use to provide much junior level infrastructure.

    Further the logistics side of the things is often forgot. Carrying out a 18 team competition needs number of quality grounds and pitches, that was never the case and stats of some of the pacers of the departmental era were earth shattering but, they somehow were never international quality as they either never played or not much.

    It might have been PKR 1 billion money that was going in but, the results have been far from ideal throughout even our memorable era of 90s when most players were handpicked at young age and there were leaders who used to scout themselves and were further developed in county cricket. So departmental cricket setup was never fully tested even in 90s, when it started getting tested post Wasim and others then it failed quite considerably in delivering the results on its and we saw Pak cricket decline in that period onwards until recently with some talent and some currently world class players to look forward too.

    I dont mind departmental cricket coming back as 2nd tier league but, 6 team structure (Can maybe add a team or two) including its 2nd Xi, U19 setup and school/club level cricket should remain there as the main bridge to the national team. Its also a fact that department wont consider young players because Pakistan cricket team needs them rather their main focus would is based upon match to match basis while associations and regions under PCB can consider the national as they can work as an integrated unit with them being part of the single system. We saw glimpses of this in the new setup when the 2019-2020 saw all regions play leggies in national T20 cup as there werent many around as backup to Shadab and Nawaz. Qadir and Zahid came into the main scene back then.

    Corporates like HBL defuncted their team and they are founding more value in sponsoring PSL. You can pressurize Gov departments to form teams again but, corporates only go where they find best value.
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    Even 6 teams are too many with the crop of ‘talent’ we have.

    Might as well go back to 100 teams where you may unearth the odd superstar out of nowhere

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    Not too long ago, Misbah was tweeting about the state of facilities and grounds when department cricket was at its peak.

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    The entire world has a model of regional FC cricket yet here we are in Pakistan still stuck in the past.

    Forget the western nations with established welfare systems, no other SC nation has this system of departmental cricket !

    We've had three of the best seasons of FC cricket in decades, youngsters being given more opportunities instead of being lost in the system, and the mediocrity gradually phased out. Yet the mafia wants to reverse this progress. Incredibly depressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Misbah says that there needs to be a review of the current system which replaced the Departmental System:

    Misbah is not done with destroying Pakistan cricket yet. He kept playing for departmental team till he was in mid 40s , could have not played that long under current system .

    Now ruling party with lotas wants to change every good thing IK started , what if IK comes back after the election ?

    Current government should make changes , if they want to , only after general election , if they won with 5 years mandate .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    The entire world has a model of regional FC cricket yet here we are in Pakistan still stuck in the past.

    Forget the western nations with established welfare systems, no other SC nation has this system of departmental cricket !

    We've had three of the best seasons of FC cricket in decades, youngsters being given more opportunities instead of being lost in the system, and the mediocrity gradually phased out. Yet the mafia wants to reverse this progress. Incredibly depressing.
    New FC system is finally giving the positive results, level of competition is far better and people started to take some interest in FC cricket, and now they want to destroy all this , that too by a government which will not be here for more than one season at the most.

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    Working on to get some important job in PCB under Sethi. Aaqib Javed is doing the same.

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    Misbah has always vouched for departmental cricket. I believe he met with IK regarding this as well but IK was just too stubborn to follow the Australian model. And yes, departments looked after their contracted players well especially financially. When you say PCB is not a job providing industry in a country already ravaged with poverty and unemployment, it doesn't sound very intellectual. One of the grievances I had with Wasim Khan was that he was just not suitable for working in a country like Pakistan and his statement was like rubbing salt on a fresh wound.

    Misbah's haters will always find something to bicker about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    The entire world has a model of regional FC cricket yet here we are in Pakistan still stuck in the past.

    Forget the western nations with established welfare systems, no other SC nation has this system of departmental cricket !

    We've had three of the best seasons of FC cricket in decades, youngsters being given more opportunities instead of being lost in the system, and the mediocrity gradually phased out. Yet the mafia wants to reverse this progress. Incredibly depressing.
    Hit the nail on the head.


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    Misbah will find loopholes in a system and leech of it as much as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Question would be that how was that money spent when the quality of products were not shaping up to be international quality more often then not. Someone like Abdullah Shafique didnt play any domestic cricket for whole 1 year in departmental cricket (He never got a contract I believe from any department) after he graduated from U19 level. Now he is scoring runs at test level, so there was definitely something wrong with the way things were run. Money was being invested into 18 or so teams and around 400 players and yet the best young talent we have had in the last decade or so came from junior level progression of the PCB and nothing much to rave about from the department side as they didnt use to provide much junior level infrastructure.

    Further the logistics side of the things is often forgot. Carrying out a 18 team competition needs number of quality grounds and pitches, that was never the case and stats of some of the pacers of the departmental era were earth shattering but, they somehow were never international quality as they either never played or not much.

    It might have been PKR 1 billion money that was going in but, the results have been far from ideal throughout even our memorable era of 90s when most players were handpicked at young age and there were leaders who used to scout themselves and were further developed in county cricket. So departmental cricket setup was never fully tested even in 90s, when it started getting tested post Wasim and others then it failed quite considerably in delivering the results on its and we saw Pak cricket decline in that period onwards until recently with some talent and some currently world class players to look forward too.

    I dont mind departmental cricket coming back as 2nd tier league but, 6 team structure (Can maybe add a team or two) including its 2nd Xi, U19 setup and school/club level cricket should remain there as the main bridge to the national team. Its also a fact that department wont consider young players because Pakistan cricket team needs them rather their main focus would is based upon match to match basis while associations and regions under PCB can consider the national as they can work as an integrated unit with them being part of the single system. We saw glimpses of this in the new setup when the 2019-2020 saw all regions play leggies in national T20 cup as there werent many around as backup to Shadab and Nawaz. Qadir and Zahid came into the main scene back then.

    Corporates like HBL defuncted their team and they are founding more value in sponsoring PSL. You can pressurize Gov departments to form teams again but, corporates only go where they find best value.
    You raise valid points and I'm not saying departmental cricket was perfect. It obviously had it's downfalls but a billion is a big number and most of that I'd imagine was being spent on payroll. We need to find a way for departments to continue spending that much. Also more and more cricketers are looking to move to the USA, maybe it's partly due to a lack of earning opportunities if we have only 6 + 6 teams in domestics.

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    'We require a change in the way we are operating our cricket structure': Misbah-ul-Haq

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    KARACHI: Pakistan's former captain and head coach Misbah-ul-Haq has said that changing the chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) will not make any difference to the sport in the country.

    "We require a change in the way we are operating our cricket structure and change our priorities," Misbah said in an interview.

    He said former Prime Minister Imran Khan's decision to stop departmental cricket and their role in sports didn't appear to have done any good for Pakistan cricket or any other discipline.

    "It has been three years now with no role of departments or institutions in cricket and other sports and what have we achieved so far?" he questioned.

    Misbah noted that those departments and institutions which spent money on cricket were now spending that money somewhere else.

    "They formed provincial association teams in domestic cricket but that has only resulted in administrative problems."

    Misbah said there was nothing wrong in the PCB experimenting with a new domestic cricket structure but at the same time, the old system of departmental cricket could have been done away with only after the new system had started producing dividends.

    On the expected changes in the cricket board, Misbah maintained that a change of face wouldn't make any difference.

    "I think that whoever is the chairman we should have a vision about how to run our cricket. No matter who is the chairman or whether there are changes in the board, the system should not change and cricket should carry on."

    https://www.newindianexpress.com/spo...h-2447565.html
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    The first and only PM of Pakistan to lose the peoples confidence = Imran Khan

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