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    NZC pays compensation to PCB for aborted tour of Pakistan in September 2021


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    Quote Originally Posted by silentkiller187 View Post

    They should inform how much it was so that the fans can decide if it is sufficient. Why are they now compensating PCB when the threat was ‘credible’?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    They should inform how much it was so that the fans can decide if it is sufficient. Why are they now compensating PCB when the threat was ‘credible’?
    Just a face saving statement nothing more from PCB, they need to first respect themselves before they expect others to respect them.

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    Its better that its kept confidential. Should other teams decide to pull out in the future its better that they dont have any financial benchmarks.

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    Can we please bump up that thread about Ramiz Raja's disastrous reign or whatever?

    Haven't seen any such compensation before when boards use to cancel tours to Pak on a whim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom View Post
    Its better that its kept confidential. Should other teams decide to pull out in the future its better that they dont have any financial benchmarks.
    Doesn't this set the right precedent though? Teams would know that PCB would pursue a financial compensation if they decide to pull out.

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    I would have refused to have taken it as matter of principle.

    It was such a gross act of disrespect by the Kiwis, that by accepting such payment they are in a way admonishing them.

    With RR constantly harping on about India and the PCB pandering to all and sundry, its time the board grew a pair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kroll View Post
    I would have refused to have taken it as matter of principle.

    It was such a gross act of disrespect by the Kiwis, that by accepting such payment they are in a way admonishing them.

    With RR constantly harping on about India and the PCB pandering to all and sundry, its time the board grew a pair.
    Wait what? Who is admonishing whom?

    RR has talked and obsessed over India the least when compared to previous chiefs, what are you on about?

    Compensation only demonstrates that boards can't take these kind of steps lightly; something that they've been doing in the past without a care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake View Post
    Wait what? Who is admonishing whom?

    RR has talked and obsessed over India the least when compared to previous chiefs, what are you on about?

    Compensation only demonstrates that boards can't take these kind of steps lightly; something that they've been doing in the past without a care.
    Than why the actual compensation amount is kept secret? It must be too low to tell.

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    What nonsense.

    New Zealand is well within its right to refuse to play if they feel there is a threat. Pakistan has zero credibility. It is ridiculous that they settled for this. They hold no liability towards Pakistan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    What nonsense.

    New Zealand is well within its right to refuse to play if they feel there is a threat. Pakistan has zero credibility. It is ridiculous that they settled for this. They hold no liability towards Pakistan.
    Your post is crapola. If simply any threat was deemed to be sufficient to pull out of a tour, India would have to give up being able to field a cricket team.

    It's obvious that NZ behaved disproportionately, but they have showed a fair bit of honour by formally acknowledging and compensating for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    What nonsense.

    New Zealand is well within its right to refuse to play if they feel there is a threat. Pakistan has zero credibility. It is ridiculous that they settled for this. They hold no liability towards Pakistan.
    I knew you wouldn't be able to process this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitthestump View Post
    Your post is nonsense. If simply any threat was deemed to be sufficient to pull out of a tour, India would have to give up being able to field a cricket team.

    It's obvious that NZ behaved disproportionately, but they have showed a fair bit of honour by formally acknowledging and compensating for it.
    No cricket team has ever been attacked on Indian soil.

    The events of 2009 can never be forgotten - teams will always be vary if the security situation in Pakistan and will hesitate in giving us the benefit of doubt.

    There was no need for New Zealand to pay compensation to Pakistan. It is madness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    No cricket team has ever been attacked on Indian soil.

    The events of 2009 can never be forgotten - teams will always be vary if the security situation in Pakistan and will hesitate in giving us the benefit of doubt.

    There was no need for New Zealand to pay compensation to Pakistan. It is madness.
    The same New Zealand in which half of the touring Bangladesh side came remarkably close to being murdered by Brendon Tarrant. Remind me what the consequences of that was?

    I think we can guess why you think it is appropriate to have a double standard here, and it isn't because the Tigers happened to not be physically inside the mosque that Friday.

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    True compensation will be when they tour us for a full test series

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitthestump View Post
    The same New Zealand in which half of the touring Bangladesh side came remarkably close to being murdered by Brendon Tarrant. Remind me what the consequences of that was?

    I think we can guess why you think it is appropriate to have a double standard here, and it isn't because the Tigers happened to not be physically inside the mosque that Friday.
    False equivalence. The Christchurch mosque attack was not a direct attack on the Bangladeshi cricketers. They just found themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    It is no different to the bomb blast in Karachi 2001 outside the New Zealand team hotel. That bomb blast did not end international cricket in Pakistan.

    In fact, New Zealand themselves returned to play again 2 years later.

    The fact remains that Pakistan is the only country where a cricket team has been directly targeted, and no amount of apple-oranges comparisons and false-equivalencies can change that fact.

    There are no double-standards at play, just the desperation of certain people to compare totally different situations,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    No cricket team has ever been attacked on Indian soil.

    The events of 2009 can never be forgotten - teams will always be vary if the security situation in Pakistan and will hesitate in giving us the benefit of doubt.

    There was no need for New Zealand to pay compensation to Pakistan. It is madness.
    1) https://www.hindustantimes.com/india...Z16Ua32uL.html

    2) https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/l...stadium-456382

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    These are not direct attacks on cricket teams. A bomb blast involves a lot of collateral damage. For all we know, the main target could have been the crowd. Secondly, the security forces were able to negate them.

    This is not comparable to the terrorists directly attacking the Sri Lankan team bus with AK-47s and rocket launchers in broad daylight with our security forces failing to block the attack.

    The credit goes to the bus driver who fluked his way out of the situation by attempting to save his life, otherwise our security forces had done what they could to ensure that all the Sri Lankan players are assassinated and Pakistan never plays a single game of cricket at home ever again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    False equivalence. The Christchurch mosque attack was not a direct attack on the Bangladeshi cricketers. They just found themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    It is no different to the bomb blast in Karachi 2001 outside the New Zealand team hotel. That bomb blast did not end international cricket in Pakistan.

    In fact, New Zealand themselves returned to play again 2 years later.

    The fact remains that Pakistan is the only country where a cricket team has been directly targeted, and no amount of apple-oranges comparisons and false-equivalencies can change that fact.

    There are no double-standards at play, just the desperation of certain people to compare totally different situations,
    But then again, the ‘direct threat’ to NZ on this occasion was some butt butt sat logged into Twitter in some village in India saying they were going to be targeted lol.

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    Interesting that there is no news/comment from NZC on this.

    Probably meant to be an internal matter which our friends in Pakistan could not keep in their tummies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kroll View Post
    But then again, the ‘direct threat’ to NZ on this occasion was some butt butt sat logged into Twitter in some village in India saying they were going to be targeted lol.
    I agree that it was probably a hoax, but we have to understand that it will never take much to spook cricketers when they are in Pakistan. Based on our history, no one is going to give us the benefit of doubt.

    Teams will always take a better safe than sorry approach with Pakistan if there is the slightest bit of skepticism involved.

    We are incredibly lucky that the Indians were kind enough not come up with a fake threat when the Australians were in the country. They would have been on the first flight back home in spite of the cringey, over the top hospitality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeshan547 View Post
    Than why the actual compensation amount is kept secret? It must be too low to tell.
    Could be. Could also be quite high.

    What matters is that there was a cost to pay for what they did - and that is a good look for Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    No cricket team has ever been attacked on Indian soil.

    The events of 2009 can never be forgotten - teams will always be vary if the security situation in Pakistan and will hesitate in giving us the benefit of doubt.

    There was no need for New Zealand to pay compensation to Pakistan. It is madness.
    Once you will start earning, you will realize that people or companies don't just hand out their money like that. A kid who has zero understanding of the workings of the two boards and what went on behind closed doors is shouting "this is madness" from a city in Pakistan

    NZ cricket board is a professional body and have surely explored all routes and option before agreeing to this.

    Sometimes its okay to keep quiet on topics you don't know anything about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    These are not direct attacks on cricket teams. A bomb blast involves a lot of collateral damage. For all we know, the main target could have been the crowd. Secondly, the security forces were able to negate them.

    This is not comparable to the terrorists directly attacking the Sri Lankan team bus with AK-47s and rocket launchers in broad daylight with our security forces failing to block the attack.

    The credit goes to the bus driver who fluked his way out of the situation by attempting to save his life, otherwise our security forces had done what they could to ensure that all the Sri Lankan players are assassinated and Pakistan never plays a single game of cricket at home ever again.
    I knew this was coming, two bombs exploded right outside the stadium just 30 mins before the start of toss on the match day, where approximately 40k spectators were present, and yet people somehow defend it.

    The BCCI has made it a point as to no one even talks about it.

    The whole point is, it proves how absolutely thin the security cover is, had those guys wanted to target the players they could have easily done it, the whole security personnel could have done one bit to save anyone. All they had to do was wait for 3.5 hrs for the match to finish and the players to return to their buses to trigger the bomb. Thank god they didn't do that, but the wanted to show the world that they could and they were successful in doing so.

    So all these safety and security stuff will disappear in smoke one these terorist want to attack or target someone or a group.

    There was Pat Cummins interview where he mentioned clearly that even during tour to india they are not allowed to leave the team hotel, for security reasons, and are mostly confined to the hotel rooms, lobby and other guarded places. He mentioned that the same is true for Bangladesh and Sri Lanka too, in Pakistan it there too with added security. What the experience in Pakistan is the same like other sub continent but with more "in your face" security.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    What nonsense.

    New Zealand is well within its right to refuse to play if they feel there is a threat. Pakistan has zero credibility. It is ridiculous that they settled for this. They hold no liability towards Pakistan.
    Contrarian takes for everything.

    I must laud the consistency in the face of the majority.

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    The funny thing is that the NZ board chose to pay the PCB for compensation.

    What does it have to do with the opinions of keyboard warriors crying for some attention whether they should or should not.

    They paid - live with it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    No cricket team has ever been attacked on Indian soil.

    The events of 2009 can never be forgotten - teams will always be vary if the security situation in Pakistan and will hesitate in giving us the benefit of doubt.

    There was no need for New Zealand to pay compensation to Pakistan. It is madness.
    At some point events of nearly 15 years ago stop being relevant. They will become even less relevant with more time. That's the problem with the logic you use. Come up with something better (although you probably won't).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    I agree that it was probably a hoax, but we have to understand that it will never take much to spook cricketers when they are in Pakistan. Based on our history, no one is going to give us the benefit of doubt.

    Teams will always take a better safe than sorry approach with Pakistan if there is the slightest bit of skepticism involved.

    We are incredibly lucky that the Indians were kind enough not come up with a fake threat when the Australians were in the country. They would have been on the first flight back home in spite of the cringey, over the top hospitality.
    Nope it happened. Remember Ashton Agar's death threat? - which was traced to someone in India.

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