BCCI has no money for DRS in Ranji Trophy final!

[Major]

BENGALURU: The absence of a Decision Review System (DRS) in the ongoing Ranji Trophy final between Mumbai and Madhya Pradesh at the Chinnaswamy Stadium has left many intrigued.

It perhaps gave in-form Mumbai batsman Sarfaraz Khan a 'life' when he survived a close lbw appeal off MP seamer Gaurav Yadav. Over the next four days, it could have a greater impact on the fate of the final.

The BCCI had experimented with 'limited DRS' during the Ranji Trophy semifinals and final in the 2019-20 season. This restricted version of DRS did not comprise Hawk-Eye and UltraEdge -- key elements of the system in international cricket.
The decision came about after Test star Cheteshwar Pujara got reprieved twice (caught behind) while playing in the Ranji Trophy semifinal for Saurashtra against Karnataka in the 2018-19 season. It cost Karnataka the game.
"We believe in our umpires," is how a BCCI official put it. "It's an expensive exercise to use the DRS. The costs shoot up. How does it matter if there's no DRS in the final. It's time we trusted the umpires. India's two best umpires (KN Ananthapadmanabhan and Virender Sharma) are officiating in this game. And what's the end result? If you use it in the final, you will want to introduce it in the league stage of the Ranji Trophy too," a former India player told TOI.

The 'cost' factor for not using DRS, which can at least prevent howlers, looks lame when you consider that the BCCI just made a cool Rs 48,390 crore in its new telecast deal for the next five years of the IPL -- where DRS is used in all the games.
"The rigging (wiring) and derigging of all the equipment will be extremely costly. HawkEye means extra cameras needed. Ranji is done with limited equipment. The argument will then be that why not for all televised games. Look, you can't have a half-baked DRS. The last time, it was used for limited replays to see if there's an edge or not. You can't use the ball trajectory -- a critical element of DRS," a source in the know of developments said.

https://m.timesofindia.com/sports/cr...w/92399870.cms

[Major]

But we had indian posters here convince us that bcci is super rich and these pisters used to jump around as if they had a personal share in that money

[cricketjoshila]

But we had indian posters here convince us that bcci is super rich and these pisters used to jump around as if they had a personal share in that money

Did you read the article? Where does it say bcci didn't have money? Its a case of not using the money.

Do you have a personal interest in Ranji trophy? Because you are posting about it?

[Major]

Did you read the article? Where does it say bcci didn't have money? Its a case of not using the money.

Do you have a personal interest in Ranji trophy? Because you are posting about it?

Read the forum, its the cricket section. And iguess ranji falls under cricket and not pyjama kricket.

Basically, riches board of the world cant afford drs in its premier first class league

Funny how posting negative news of india cricket prompted a reply from you about personal interest.

Maybe next time before doing bhangra on how much bcci made, check the actual condition of your cricket where there is no drs.

Its like a business man's servant bragging about his maliks money, meanwhile malik doesnt have a toilet in his house which is a standard requirement

[cricketjoshila]

Read the forum, its the cricket section. And iguess ranji falls under cricket and not pyjama kricket.

Basically, riches board of the world cant afford drs in its premier first class league

Funny how posting negative news of india cricket prompted a reply from you about personal interest.

Maybe next time before doing bhangra on how much bcci made, check the actual condition of your cricket where there is no drs.

Its like a business man's servant bragging about his maliks money, meanwhile malik doesnt have a toilet in his house which is a standard requirement

What forum got to do here? You were asking if posters got share of bcci rights. I am asking what is your interest as a Pakistani in ranji trophy?

Which FC matches have DRS? Which board uses it in FC matches?

Basically richest board also wants to save money.

Why posting about the IPL tv rights makes you say that posters were jumping as if they are getting personal share?

This like a bhikari on the road saying that the Richest Man is actually poor because he flew commercial airlines instead of a private jet. It just shows the jealousy of the bhikari not the lack of money of the Rich man. But does anyone cares about a footpath beggar's opinion about the richest man?

[pratiktc]

Atleast BCCI has money to increase player pensions so that ex players don't need to flog YouTube channels to make a living.

[Savak]

A board like BCCI should be able to afford using the DRS in the final of their premier first class tournament atleast.

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Haathi ke daant khaane ke aur, dikhane ke aur.

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Atleast BCCI has money to increase player pensions so that ex players don't need to flog YouTube channels to make a living.

Youtube channels? Are you talking about ex player Aakash Chopra or currently active player Ashwin who also takes part in IPL?

[cricketjoshila]

A board like BCCI should be able to afford using the DRS in the final of their premier first class tournament atleast.

Which other board uses DRS in its FC tournament?

[MenInG]

Which other board uses DRS in its FC tournament?

Which other board boasts record earnings every other day? Surely they can pass on that to the betterment of cricket in their domestic level?

[cricketjoshila]

Which other board boasts record earnings every other day? Surely they can pass on that to the betterment of cricket in their domestic level?

In 2011 the cost of just hawkeye DRS was $56000 per day. Hot spot was an additional $10k. In 10 years costs may have gone up due to inflation. Plus according to some the DRS equipment is "limited", so there are availability issues.

Ranji trophy is a 30 team event. Add to that the duleep trophy SMA trophy Irani and challenger trophy.

Does the cost justify its usage in domestic cricket? That has to be seen.

[Sir Alex]

DRS costs around 80-90k usd per day

Spending 400k usd on a match ,cevrn if this scale doesn't make sense

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

[Major]

What forum got to do here? You were asking if posters got share of bcci rights. I am asking what is your interest as a Pakistani in ranji trophy?

Which FC matches have DRS? Which board uses it in FC matches?

Basically richest board also wants to save money.

Why posting about the IPL tv rights makes you say that posters were jumping as if they are getting personal share?

This like a bhikari on the road saying that the Richest Man is actually poor because he flew commercial airlines instead of a private jet. It just shows the jealousy of the bhikari not the lack of money of the Rich man. But does anyone cares about a footpath beggar's opinion about the richest man?

Richest board doesnt have money, it cant fly private jet... If they could they wouldve had funds for drs....

Atleast now we know that even bcci doesnt value ranji that much.

Amyways you keep on defending bcci as if you get a share from the money

[Major]

DRS costs around 80-90k usd per day

Spending 400k usd on a match ,cevrn if this scale doesn't make sense

I like how indian fans are now towing the line of bcci.

Agar bcci nay kaha nahi karnay ka tou apun ko nahi karnay ka.

Whats next? Richest board in cricket cant provide jerseys as its useless cost.

All the years of defending and bragging about bcci money as if you get a share and than this happens

[Ab Fan]

Ranji Trophy is domestic cricket. It is not international standard but a learning curve to international cricket. By not giving DRS in FC cricket, what BCCI is focussing on is to not let the umpires have it easy at that level. When they grind out, they become better umpires and as a result at higher level like India's test matches or LOI matches or IPL, they would come up with better preparations and the chances of making mistakes would be minimal. Having world class umpires is important for a proud cricket nation like India and that is only possible when you grind out at grassroot level.

This is excellent decision from BCCI and they deserve a pat from other Asian boards for ensuring that Asian cricket is able to produce and maintain high standard umpiring facilities at international level too.

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Where are they using all this IPL money then?

[MenInG]

Where are they using all this IPL money then?

Question has been answered above by CJ.

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

What forum got to do here? You were asking if posters got share of bcci rights. I am asking what is your interest as a Pakistani in ranji trophy?

Which FC matches have DRS? Which board uses it in FC matches?

Basically richest board also wants to save money.

Why posting about the IPL tv rights makes you say that posters were jumping as if they are getting personal share?

This like a bhikari on the road saying that the Richest Man is actually poor because he flew commercial airlines instead of a private jet. It just shows the jealousy of the bhikari not the lack of money of the Rich man. But does anyone cares about a footpath beggar's opinion about the richest man?

What was your interest as an indian in Kashmir Premier League?

But does anyone cares about a footpath beggar's opinion about the richest man?

No, they don't care about your opinion.

[MenInG]

Ranji Trophy is domestic cricket. It is not international standard but a learning curve to international cricket. By not giving DRS in FC cricket, what BCCI is focussing on is to not let the umpires have it easy at that level. When they grind out, they become better umpires and as a result at higher level like India's test matches or LOI matches or IPL, they would come up with better preparations and the chances of making mistakes would be minimal. Having world class umpires is important for a proud cricket nation like India and that is only possible when you grind out at grassroot level.

This is excellent decision from BCCI and they deserve a pat from other Asian boards for ensuring that Asian cricket is able to produce and maintain high standard umpiring facilities at international level too.

Right, so maybe batters should be given a little stick in hand instead of bats to improve their hand to eye coordination too?

DRS is an important aspect of the game, captains & players need to know how/when to use it and Umps need to be kept in line also.

[Ab Fan]

Right, so maybe batters should be given a little stick in hand instead of bats to improve their hand to eye coordination too?

DRS is an important aspect of the game, captains & players need to know how/when to use it and Umps need to be kept in line also.

Problem in this case is that it will affect the standard of bowling (pace and spin both) as they will be getting a lot of cheap wickets if batsman start batting with sticks instead of bat. Every single batsman in Ranji will be named as "Bowledstow" then.

DRS is a luxury in cricket, not necessarily a necessity. It is an important incentive taken by BCCI to improve the standard of umpiring in subcontinent, other Asian boards must shower praise for that.

[MP2011]

It was pathetic of Ganguly to boast about IPL riches. Everytime BCCI will try to cut corners like in this instance, they'll be trolled mercilessly even if their bhakts simply tow their line like they always do.

[MenInG]

Problem in this case is that it will affect the standard of bowling (pace and spin both) as they will be getting a lot of cheap wickets if batsman start batting with sticks instead of bat. Every single batsman in Ranji will be named as "Bowledstow" then.

DRS is a luxury in cricket, not necessarily a necessity. It is an important incentive taken by BCCI to improve the standard of umpiring in subcontinent, other Asian boards must shower praise for that.

BCCI took that line for a long time until they had to cede to pressure and take on DRS. Doing same in domestic.

[Cover Drive Six]

No point of wasting money for DRS

[Major]

It was pathetic of Ganguly to boast about IPL riches. Everytime BCCI will try to cut corners like in this instance, they'll be trolled mercilessly even if their bhakts simply tow their line like they always do.

To be honest one way to stay rich is to cut corners. If we all sold the house we lived in, placed it in a bank and lived in a mud house, that way we would all be rich.

I find it hilarious the boosting of richness led to this.

Whats even more hilarious is the umpire argument. The op states that umpire errors continued with teams losing important match just because of the umpire being twrrible.

[Major]

No point of wasting money for DRS

Than why kohli was shouting to the stump mic?

[Cover Drive Six]

Than why kohli was shouting to the stump mic?

I am talking about DRS in Ranji and you talking something different.

[Major]

I am talking about DRS in Ranji and you talking something different.

Its not different. If a rich boards player cant use drs in domestic, he is not gonna learn about the dynamics of it. If you are gonna put forward the argument that domestic is learning curve for everything that so it is for players to use drs.

Kohli and Ashwin had made themselves believe that drs can be played with....

You dont want drs in domestic but want in international and complain about it.

Soo much for pretending to be rich

[MP2011]

BCCI earned close to INR 50K crores from the recent IPL deal. Surely, they could have afforded DRS for at least 5 days in entire duration of their premier domestic tournament, no?

[Hextro]

I am asking what is your interest as a Pakistani in ranji trophy?

What a weird question. This is a cricket forum and people can have an interest in any cricket tournament they want.

[Major]

What i find hilarious is that few days ago gangully and unpaid bcci defenders here went on about how ipl is making more revenue than premier league and even conparing it with north american leagues.

While at the same time not being aware that the north maerican minor leagues that feed the major leagues and that the premier leagues other championship are provided with basic facilities. Hawkeye that is used in football is even used in the efl championship....... That is not even the premier league.

Thus, next time any bcci fan tries to compare their ipl with big leagues, atleast do know that big leagues worldwide are also spending money on its feeder routes

[Cover Drive Six]

Its not different. If a rich boards player cant use drs in domestic, he is not gonna learn about the dynamics of it. If you are gonna put forward the argument that domestic is learning curve for everything that so it is for players to use drs.

Kohli and Ashwin had made themselves believe that drs can be played with....

You dont want drs in domestic but want in international and complain about it.

Soo much for pretending to be rich

That's not a rocket science to worry about the dynamics.

[hitthestump]

Did you read the article? Where does it say bcci didn't have money? Its a case of not using the money.

This is all that needs to be said. A non-discussion point.

[arif_2021]

Lol, one of the worst and non-sensical threads ever.

The author of this thread did not read the article himself and thinks that bcci is BROKE.

LMAO.

[Major]

Lol, one of the worst and non-sensical threads ever.

The author of this thread did not read the article himself and thinks that bcci is BROKE.

LMAO.

Its worst because it shows bcci not having money?

Well if they are not broke, than surely they can provide their players with drs.

[Mesozoic]

If BCCI wanted to, they could make Ranji trophy a 3 month long tournament with pink ball D/N games , 4 foreign players in each side and also manage to get a separate window for that. It's just that they don't want to.

You are seriously deluded if you think they don't have the money to set up DRS for one game.

[arif_2021]

Its worst because it shows bcci not having money?

Well if they are not broke, than surely they can provide their players with drs.

Let me break it down to you so maybe you understand it a little better.

Let's say you have a million dollars. Does that mean you will buy a plane?

It's not about money.

It's about priorities. Maybe its not a priority for them. Who are you to comment on that.

Does Pakistan have DRS for their domestic cricket?

[arif_2021]

What forum got to do here? You were asking if posters got share of bcci rights. I am asking what is your interest as a Pakistani in ranji trophy?

Which FC matches have DRS? Which board uses it in FC matches?

Basically richest board also wants to save money.

Why posting about the IPL tv rights makes you say that posters were jumping as if they are getting personal share?

This like a bhikari on the road saying that the Richest Man is actually poor because he flew commercial airlines instead of a private jet. It just shows the jealousy of the bhikari not the lack of money of the Rich man. But does anyone cares about a footpath beggar's opinion about the richest man?

You are acting like a bhikari by inserting yourself in a Pakistani forum.

[Major]

Let me break it down to you so maybe you understand it a little better.

Let's say you have a million dollars. Does that mean you will buy a plane?

It's not about money.

It's about priorities. Maybe its not a priority for them. Who are you to comment on that.

Does Pakistan have DRS for their domestic cricket?

I understand you are new to the forum and dont know about the discussions go here mr. "Arif"

Indian posters go on about how bcci is the richest board. No person does this discussion, its only indian posters who will bring their riches comment on every post related to bcci, india cricket or ipl.

The defence they do for bcci is hilarious as its not like these pisters get a share from the revenue bcci makes.

Than recently ganguly said that his ipl is making more money that premier league.


The fact that after all these comments, BCCI still has issues in providing drs just for one match is hilarious and shows how bad things are.

I dont know why you bring Pakistan into this as this thread is not about Pakistan. Also Pakistani posters never claimed of pcb being rich or comparing our leagues with english premier league.

Atleast epl can afford to have hawk eye in the championship league. While BCCI cant afford drs for one match of their premier first class tournament called ranji.

All the defending and than this.....

[Major]

If BCCI wanted to, they could make Ranji trophy a 3 month long tournament with pink ball D/N games , 4 foreign players in each side and also manage to get a separate window for that. It's just that they don't want to.

You are seriously deluded if you think they don't have the money to set up DRS for one game.

Oh plz, stop this dramaybazi of bcci can do this or that.

They cant even buy drs for one match and you are talking about other dreams.... Save yourself from the embarrassment...

Rupay taak kharch karnay ko nahi, chalay aye english football league kay sath apnay ko compare karnay......

[Major]

I understand indian posters have issue with the title, let me remind you your own news paper companies and websites wrote that title....

[Technics 1210]

BCCI have money, but BCCI have always opposed DRS.

You see, it’s easier to corrupt a local Umpire than it is a bowler/batsman, however DRS means an Umpire’s decision can be overturned. This is why BCCI have not opted for DRS in the Ranji Trophy - it is open season for bookmakers and match fixers in India.

[JaDed]

Did you read the article? Where does it say bcci didn't have money? Its a case of not using the money.

Do you have a personal interest in Ranji trophy? Because you are posting about it?

Thats the headline.. of TOI article..Irrespective it can be there in semis and finals.

I have notoriously felt a bias toward Mumbai and Karnataka in Ranji.. DRS would help eliminate the conspiracy..

[JaDed]

They definitely have the money but not the intent, and not having the intent for the final or semifinal is unfortunate but it’s probably due to viewers, viewers should demand it and you will hopefully see it.
We don’t have to defend BCCI where we can demand some features..

[Major]

As @JaDed said, you have to critisize where criticism is warranted and cannot defend every action. If many of these blind nationalists were playing the ranji than their opinions would had been different

[arif_2021]

Lol I just lost a few neurons reading the above posts by major

[cricketjoshila]

Right, so maybe batters should be given a little stick in hand instead of bats to improve their hand to eye coordination too?

DRS is an important aspect of the game, captains & players need to know how/when to use it and Umps need to be kept in line also.

I agree DRS is important. But for its wider use across the domestic circuit its cost has to come down and the availibility issues has to be tackled.

[JaDed]

I agree DRS is important. But for its wider use across the domestic circuit its cost has to come down and the availibility issues has to be tackled.

Using it in Semis and finals is not a big deal.. it’s our most important tournament with historical importance.

[Colorblind Genius]

DRS costs around 80-90k usd per day

Spending 400k usd on a match ,cevrn if this scale doesn't make sense

For you and me, may be it’s a significant figure but for bcci, it should be a mere drop from the ocean.

I get that they are penny pinchers and they don’t wanna spend - but to boast about having money money and money, doesn’t go along too well when you are considered as an ultra stringent spender.

Either way, I don’t have an issue with BCCI spending money on Ranji or not. Their money their choice.

However, the picture they portray of themselves, gives the right to voice my opinion on their third class mentality.

[Varun]

You know those questions where you are asked: "Who would you choose to bat for your life?"

In the PP context I would choose cricketjoshila to post for my life. The dude is a robot who can defend anything, good or bad, day and night.

[Cover Drive Six]

Thread title yet to correct.
Bcci didn't have money? Where did they mention in article?
Fake propaganda.

[cricketjoshila]

Using it in Semis and finals is not a big deal.. it’s our most important tournament with historical importance.

What has the quarter final guy done to not deserve the same treatment?

If DRS has to be their, it has to be their for all the matches of atleast the CUP division.

What about the SMA Duleep and Irani trophy?

[cricketjoshila]

You know those questions where you are asked: "Who would you choose to bat for your life?"

In the PP context I would choose cricketjoshila to post for my life. The dude is a robot who can defend anything, good or bad, day and night.

Robots cannot think and defend my dear brother.

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

What forum got to do here? You were asking if posters got share of bcci rights. I am asking what is your interest as a Pakistani in ranji trophy?

Which FC matches have DRS? Which board uses it in FC matches?

Basically richest board also wants to save money.

Why posting about the IPL tv rights makes you say that posters were jumping as if they are getting personal share?

This like a bhikari on the road saying that the Richest Man is actually poor because he flew commercial airlines instead of a private jet. It just shows the jealousy of the bhikari not the lack of money of the Rich man. But does anyone cares about a footpath beggar's opinion about the richest man?

Just went through the thread and found this.

This forum deserves better than this.

Both India and Pakistan have enough cannon fodder to go after each other with jingoistic oneupmanship. But PP works hard to keep things focused solely on cricket matters.

There is nothing wrong with rivalry and enjoying the sporting misery of another. Sport thrives on it.

But there is everything wrong with turning banter into something resembling venomous comment sections under newspapers articles and Tweets. Doesn't belong on PP in my opinion.

[cricketjoshila]

You are acting like a bhikari by inserting yourself in a Pakistani forum.

Have the admins banned Indians?

[cricketjoshila]

Just went through the thread and found this.

This forum deserves better than this.

Both India and Pakistan have enough cannon fodder to go after each other with jingoistic oneupmanship. But PP works hard to keep things focused solely on cricket matters.

There is nothing wrong with rivalry and enjoying the sporting misery of another. Sport thrives on it.

But there is everything wrong with turning banter into something resembling venomous comment sections under newspapers articles and Tweets. Doesn't belong on PP in my opinion.

You comfortably missed the post i quoted and replied to

"Its like a business man's servant bragging about his maliks money, meanwhile malik doesnt have a toilet in his house which is a standard requirement"

Reply should be in the same vein. No?

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

I didn’t see that. Sorry.

Equally shameful and commendable.

And no, the reply should not be in the same vein. Best to report and get that abomination taken down.

Two wrongs don’t make a right and don’t turn anyone into a hero for their cause.

This sort of crap should not be brought to Pakpassion in my opinion. Nothing to do with cricket which is what we all love.

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Thread title yet to correct.
Bcci didn't have money? Where did they mention in article?
Fake propaganda.

What's wrong with the thread title? It is true and simple. They don't have money to spend/waste on DRS.

[arif_2021]

Have the admins banned Indians?

lol you used the word bhikari, not me. I was simply laughing at the irony and internet-splaining how accurately it fits you.

"people in glass houses..."

[cricketjoshila]

I didn’t see that. Sorry.

Equally shameful and commendable.

And no, the reply should not be in the same vein. Best to report and get that abomination taken down.

Two wrongs don’t make a right and don’t turn anyone into a hero for their cause.

This sort of crap should not be brought to Pakpassion in my opinion. Nothing to do with cricket which is what we all love.

If its a one time or a rare post it was understandable. This is regular from a few posters.

[cricketjoshila]

lol you used the word bhikari, not me. I was simply laughing at the irony and internet-splaining how accurately it fits you.

"people in glass houses..."

Someone used the word servant. Ask him?

What is the irony?

[Major]

Thread title yet to correct.
Bcci didn't have money? Where did they mention in article?
Fake propaganda.

You are right. Do us a behavior as you live in india, go to toi hq and complain to them. They posted the headline and we pasted it here

[arif_2021]

Someone used the word servant. Ask him?

What is the irony?

Bhikari and servant have different meanings. A bhikari is a beggar, not a servant.

Don’t wait for me to give you all the answers. Think a little harder.

[AMSS]

Haha! BCCI so poor. Living on handouts from ICC. Taste it BCCI!

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

You are right. Do us a behavior as you live in india, go to toi hq and complain to them. They posted the headline and we pasted it here

He thought you made this up. Just goes to show people comment here after reading the thread title only.

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Someone used the word servant. Ask him?

What is the irony?

Servant and beggar are two different words.

[jeeteshssaxena]

Yes BCCI has no money.
Dunno why people say that BCCI arm twists the ICC to get things done.
Definitely not possible without money.

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Yes BCCI has no money.
Dunno why people say that BCCI arm twists the ICC to get things done.
Definitely not possible without money.

Now we know where are they using this money. Thanks.

[MenInG]

Guys stay on topic.

[MenInG]

The Duleep Trophy to be played in a zonal format, Ranji Trophy to have Elite and Plate groups and the Decision Review System (DRS) likely to be in place for all Ranji Trophy Games, were the other key decisions taken at the Apex Council meeting.

https://indianexpress.com/article/sp...ulled-8044666/

[JaDed]

The Duleep Trophy to be played in a zonal format, Ranji Trophy to have Elite and Plate groups and the Decision Review System (DRS) likely to be in place for all Ranji Trophy Games, were the other key decisions taken at the Apex Council meeting.

https://indianexpress.com/article/sp...ulled-8044666/

Nice , this is exactly what i say it’s always good to criticize and also appreciate so they would bring in changes.
Good on them!