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    "No there are no Hindu extremists in India"

    A poster suggested.

    "No there are no Hindu extremists in India."

    Is this true or a Hindu Citizens of India in denial?

    Muslims, Christians and others accept a small minority of extremists exist claiming to follow their faith.

    Why are Hindus so reluctant or are we being misled by the news of events in India?


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    The poster who made this claim, sacred games must have bothered him soo much


    The first and only PM of Pakistan to lose the peoples confidence = Imran Khan

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    It was a reactionary extremism to fight Islamic extremism. Both are equally bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    The poster who made this claim, sacred games must have bothered him soo much
    Do you feel this is a growing problem and many residents are either in denial or dont want to entertain this serious problem?

    @Local Dada please explain.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ_Pal View Post
    It was a reactionary extremism to fight Islamic extremism. Both are equally bad.
    So Hindu extremism never existed before Muslims and its the fault of the Muslims too?

    Can you then explain why Hindu extremist have been burning and killing Christians in India?


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    So Hindu extremism never existed before Muslims and its the fault of the Muslims too?

    Can you then explain why Hindu extremist have been burning and killing Christians in India?
    It was very rare before 2000. Hindus were considered docile and weak and super soft. The thug Hindu image is a new concept. In India in sensitive areas, it was always about street power. Who ever rules the streets get their way with the blessings of secular liberals.
    Hindus have stated fighting back as they gained organizational strength through RSS and BJP. You cut diamond with a diamond. You cannot go into a fight armed with nothing when the opposite side do not hesitate to kill.

    We can never eradicate extremism as long as people are faithful to their religion and faith overrides common sense .
    However there are things the Government can do to minimize extremism. Those includes monitoring what is being preached and taught at religious schools, public sermons and speeches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    Do you feel this is a growing problem and many residents are either in denial or dont want to entertain this serious problem?

    @Local Dada please explain.
    How many designated Hindu terrorists do you know?

    Please donít tell me Kulbhushan Jadhav booked by Pakistan courts but some legitimate terrorist who is wanted by CBI, FBI, Mi-6 for religious terrorism?

    Modi etc are only terrorists in your little world.

    Give me names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ_Pal View Post
    It was very rare before 2000. Hindus were considered docile and weak and super soft. The thug Hindu image is a new concept. In India in sensitive areas, it was always about street power. Who ever rules the streets get their way with the blessings of secular liberals.
    Hindus have stated fighting back as they gained organizational strength through RSS and BJP. You cut diamond with a diamond. You cannot go into a fight armed with nothing when the opposite side do not hesitate to kill.

    We can never eradicate extremism as long as people are faithful to their religion and faith overrides common sense .
    However there are things the Government can do to minimize extremism. Those includes monitoring what is being preached and taught at religious schools, public sermons and speeches.
    Attacks against Christians by Hindus go back to the 60's. In 80's,90's and 2000's they became regular.
    Now even more so.

    You claimed it was because of Muslims?

    How many HIndu extremist would you estimate in India right now?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    How many designated Hindu terrorists do you know?

    Please don’t tell me Kulbhushan Jadhav booked by Pakistan courts but some legitimate terrorist who is wanted by CBI, FBI, Mi-6 for religious terrorism?

    Modi etc are only terrorists in your little world.

    Give me names.
    Lets stick to the topic please, the usual Indian diversion is boring.

    You have maybe 1 billion Hindus in India. How many would you estimate as extremists?

    Ill give you one name, Bajrang Dal. Thousands and thousands of members.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    Lets stick to the topic please, the usual Indian diversion is boring.

    You have maybe 1 billion Hindus in India. How many would you estimate as extremists?

    Ill give you one name, Bajrang Dal. Thousands and thousands of members.
    I would estimate 0.

    Banjrang Dal is not active anymore. Proud of Hindus to nip such things in the bud.

    What diversion. Your topic was Hindu extremists. I said there arenít any. If you know some legitimate ones, name them. Not certified by you but by some credible source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    The poster who made this claim, sacred games must have bothered him soo much
    Sacred games is not a documentary nor it is the reflection of any reality. Case in point: the story premise itself lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    I would estimate 0.

    Banjrang Dal is not active anymore. Proud of Hindus to nip such things in the bud.

    What diversion. Your topic was Hindu extremists. I said there aren’t any. If you know some legitimate ones, name them. Not certified by you but by some credible source.
    Udaipur killing: VHP, Bajrang Dal demand gallows for the killers
    https://www.hindustantimes.com/citie...528241282.html

    Hindutimes , many videos, audio and articles quoting them would suggest otherwise.

    How about Shiv Sena?


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    https://www.hindustantimes.com/citie...528241282.html

    Hindutimes , many videos, audio and articles quoting them would suggest otherwise.

    How about Shiv Sena?
    Shiv sena

    You should click on the current headlines instead of googling some keywords and not even making an effort to read. Tough to miss given Shiv Sena has been in the headlines over the last week. Surprise that given how obsessed you are with Indian news you missed it.

    Bajrang Dal is a non-entity now as already mentioned.

    A criminal with a Hindu name doing a crime is not exactly Hindu terrorism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    Attacks against Christians by Hindus go back to the 60's. In 80's,90's and 2000's they became regular.
    Now even more so.

    You claimed it was because of Muslims?

    How many HIndu extremist would you estimate in India right now?
    You have to be very religious to become an extremist. Among Hindus, majority are not very religious. Nationalism is the new mantra.

    Attacks on Christians is not because of Christians. Its the Shudra Castes vs Dalits & Tribals that has been happening since independence. Many Dalits are Christians. Hence it is considered as attacks on Christians.

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    The fact that Op has to go on a scavenger hunt to the corners of the internet nullifies the argument.

    It should be as simple as going to a legit site and getting some names on the list.

    Till then thread can be dead and buried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    https://www.hindustantimes.com/citie...528241282.html

    Hindutimes , many videos, audio and articles quoting them would suggest otherwise.

    How about Shiv Sena?
    Shivsena is a secular party now. Once Bal Thackerey died, his successors jumped in bed with woke liberals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ_Pal View Post
    Shivsena is a secular party now. Once Bal Thackerey died, his successors jumped in bed with woke liberals.
    Charming

    What about RSS?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ_Pal View Post
    Shivsena is a secular party now. Once Bal Thackerey died, his successors jumped in bed with woke liberals.
    I am sure if he is competent enough to search on Google, he can read up on some of the names he is throwing around. Explaining it will not make it easy. Just a friendly advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    Shiv sena

    You should click on the current headlines instead of googling some keywords and not even making an effort to read. Tough to miss given Shiv Sena has been in the headlines over the last week. Surprise that given how obsessed you are with Indian news you missed it.

    Bajrang Dal is a non-entity now as already mentioned.

    A criminal with a Hindu name doing a crime is not exactly Hindu terrorism.
    You have kindly answered there are NO Hindu extremists in this world. I love the answer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    Charming

    What about RSS?
    Not a religious organization. Címon man. Rooting for you now. You need to try harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    A poster suggested.

    "No there are no Hindu extremists in India."

    Is this true or a Hindu Citizens of India in denial?

    Muslims, Christians and others accept a small minority of extremists exist claiming to follow their faith.

    Why are Hindus so reluctant or are we being misled by the news of events in India?
    I thought the title of the thread was the beginning of a joke, but in actual fact, is a joke!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    Not a religious organization. C’mon man. Rooting for you now. You need to try harder.
    Please give us YOUR definition of an EXTREMIST.

    Tip - Extremists can come in all types in the real...
    @cricketjoshila come on give us your number(s).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Technics 1210 View Post
    I thought the title of the thread was the beginning of a joke, but in actual fact, is a joke!
    This will be another classic in the archives of Pakpassion.

    I never thought, so many citizens of India believe a Hindu cannot be extremist.


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    To claim there is no such thing as a Hindu extremist is simply mindboggling.

    The term Saffron Terror exists for a reason; terrorism carried out by Hindu extremists.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffron_terror

    We must all remember, Nathuram Godse, assassinated Mahatma Gandhi, and Godse is revered within the RSS ideology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    How many designated Hindu terrorists do you know?

    Please donít tell me Kulbhushan Jadhav booked by Pakistan courts but some legitimate terrorist who is wanted by CBI, FBI, Mi-6 for religious terrorism?

    Modi etc are only terrorists in your little world.

    Give me names.
    Why do you think terrorists wanted by India, US or UK are legitimate but not by Pakistan? Is this is the usual Indian logic that only West or India can pass judgement on what is terrorism and what is not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    How many designated Hindu terrorists do you know?

    Please donít tell me Kulbhushan Jadhav booked by Pakistan courts but some legitimate terrorist who is wanted by CBI, FBI, Mi-6 for religious terrorism?

    Modi etc are only terrorists in your little world.

    Give me names.
    Let me ask a similar question I asked CJ for which he had no answer to. Which Saudi government official is wanted for terrorism by the organizations you mentioned? By your logic then, Saudi government has nothing to do with terrorism anywhere.

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    There are plenty of Hindu extremists.

    Even the tailor who was killed was perhaps a closet extremist too (based on his social media post).


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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    There are plenty of Hindu extremists.

    Even the tailor who was killed was perhaps a closet extremist too (based on his social media post).
    Just like you based on your posts here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    Just like you based on your posts here.
    How am I an extremist? When did I attack another faith or another human?

    Yes. My views can be conservative/traditional but that's not extremism.

    Stop supporting your fellow Indians who happen to be extremists.
    Last edited by sweep_shot; 1st July 2022 at 02:12.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    How am I an extremist? When did I attack another faith or another human?

    Yes. My views can be conservative/traditional but that's not extremism.

    Stop supporting your fellow extremist Indians.
    Can you tell everyone what did tailor post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    Just like you based on your posts here.
    Hello

    The thread is about Hindu extremism. Please stick to the topic, nobody cares for your opinion about posters but I care for your opinion on this subject.

    Do you believe there are Hindu extremists as many of your friends dont? If yes, estimate a number.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kumjsr View Post
    Can you tell everyone what did tailor post?
    You can check on the internet.

    He was an extremist just like many modern day Indians. It is a sad truth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    You can check on the internet.

    He was an extremist just like many modern day Indians. It is a sad truth.
    Didn't find the post. Since you have already seen that or know about it, you can share details.

    Meanwhile a week before getting beheaded he had filed a police complaint about death threats. He had mentioned that he didn't post anything and his son shared a post from his phone while playing a game.

    He didn't open his shop for 6 days.

    Police intervened and both sides reached agreement about the issue.

    So he opened the shop and next day he was beheaded.

    Which part looks like extremism to you?

    Why was he beheaded after reaching an agreement with other side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    Please give us YOUR definition of an EXTREMIST.

    Tip - Extremists can come in all types in the real...
    @cricketjoshila come on give us your number(s).
    May be go to the UNSC list and try to find the count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kumjsr View Post
    Didn't find the post. Since you have already seen that or know about it, you can share details.

    Meanwhile a week before getting beheaded he had filed a police complaint about death threats. He had mentioned that he didn't post anything and his son shared a post from his phone while playing a game.

    He didn't open his shop for 6 days.

    Police intervened and both sides reached agreement about the issue.

    So he opened the shop and next day he was beheaded.

    Which part looks like extremism to you?

    Why was he beheaded after reaching an agreement with other side?
    I am not defending the beheading. That was unnecessary and counterproductive.

    But, the tailor seemed to have supported Nupur Sharma (who is clearly a Hindu extremist). Therefore, it is fair to call him a closet extremist (just like many BJP supporters).


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    May be go to the UNSC list and try to find the count.
    No need when you are here.

    Please answer the question. Do you believe there is Hindu extremism in India and if so how big is this?


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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    I am not defending the beheading. That was unnecessary and counterproductive.

    But, the tailor seemed to have supported Nupur Sharma (who is clearly a Hindu extremist). Therefore, it is fair to call him a closet extremist (just like many BJP supporters).
    Did you read my previous post?

    1. Apparently video of Nupur Sharma was shared from his account. Hasn't the video been shared even by non-Hindu journalists also earlier.
    2. Tailor denied sharing the post.
    3. Tailor complained about threats.
    4. Police brokered the agreement between both parties and he opened the shop after that.
    5. Tailor believed the other side and even gave a handwritten note to police that he doesn't want any action against other side.
    6. He was beheaded after that.

    From 1-6 which part looks like extremism?

    Why would extremist believe other side and agree to police not taking any action on then after discussion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    May be go to the UNSC list and try to find the count.
    We have been over this before. Find me which Saudi government official is on the list you mention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kumjsr View Post
    Did you read my previous post?

    1. Apparently video of Nupur Sharma was shared from his account. Hasn't the video been shared even by non-Hindu journalists also earlier.
    2. Tailor denied sharing the post.
    3. Tailor complained about threats.
    4. Police brokered the agreement between both parties and he opened the shop after that.
    5. Tailor believed the other side and even gave a handwritten note to police that he doesn't want any action against other side.
    6. He was beheaded after that.

    From 1-6 which part looks like extremism?

    Why would extremist believe other side and agree to police not taking any action on then after discussion?
    Okay. If your information is right, he is not an extremist. But, that doesn't change the fact there are many radical Hindus in India currently.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    Okay. If your information is right, he is not an extremist. But, that doesn't change the fact there are many radical Hindus in India currently.
    There are no ifs and buts here.

    No one on PP knows for sure that he supported Nupur Sharma and directly believed the version of story shared by people who beheaded him.

    Why do you think that so many posters are ready to believe killers than the person who had already denied sharing the post?

    Is it because there is support to killers to some extent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    Please give us YOUR definition of an EXTREMIST.

    Tip - Extremists can come in all types in the real...
    @cricketjoshila come on give us your number(s).
    My definition is very clear. In my book itís a terrorist and I said there hasnít been a single designated Hindu terrorist who did terrorism using the name of religion. I still havenít seen names.

    Itís you who seemed to be confused. There is not a single incident I remember across the globe of Hindus destroying properties or acts of terrorism in the name of religion. As I said you are confusing criminals and terrorists. I gave you my definition and why do I get the feeling you understand it and are just stalling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kumjsr View Post
    There are no ifs and buts here.

    No one on PP knows for sure that he supported Nupur Sharma and directly believed the version of story shared by people who beheaded him.

    Why do you think that so many posters are ready to believe killers than the person who had already denied sharing the post?

    Is it because there is support to killers to some extent?
    I have not seen any post supporting these killers. These killers are extremists just like Nupur Sharma and her supporters.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    I have not seen any post supporting these killers. These killers are extremists just like Nupur Sharma and her supporters.
    So you are saying beheading someone and saying an offensive thing is the same thing.

    I wonder if given a choice what someone would prefer someone insulting them or beheading them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    I have not seen any post supporting these killers. These killers are extremists just like Nupur Sharma and her supporters.
    If they are not supporting killers to some extent, then why so many posters are ready to believe the version of story shared by killers?

    Check the threads, many people by called tailor extremist or idiot. They aren't sure what he shared, they haven't seen his post, yet they are ready to believe that he insulted other religion.

    How do people know for sure that he supports Nupur Sharma? Because killers said so?

    How do you explain such faith in killers story without it being proved? If this is not partial support to killers, then what is it?
    Last edited by kumjsr; 1st July 2022 at 03:36.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    My definition is very clear. In my book it’s a terrorist and I said there hasn’t been a single designated Hindu terrorist who did terrorism using the name of religion. I still haven’t seen names.

    It’s you who seemed to be confused. There is not a single incident I remember across the globe of Hindus destroying properties or acts of terrorism in the name of religion. As I said you are confusing criminals and terrorists. I gave you my definition and why do I get the feeling you understand it and are just stalling.
    Im here to learn from our Indian friends, sure a little confused as I've never come across anyone saying there is no extremists in a group of a billion people.

    What is your definition of a terrorist? Because your definition of an extremist is not compatible with the English language or you thinking in terms of Sanskrit ?

    Sure, lets go back a few years and start with what INDIAN media calls Cow-Terorism. I have a feeling this is only in India.

    2017 on track to be worst-ever year for cow-related violence

    In the first six months of 2017, 20 cow-terror attacks were reported–more than 75% of the 2016 figure, which was the worst year for such violence since 2010.

    The attacks include mob lynching, attacks by vigilantes, murder and attempt to murder, harassment, assault and gang-rape. In two attacks, the victims/survivors were chained, stripped and beaten, while in two others, the victims were hanged.

    These attacks – sometimes collectively referred to as gautankwad, a portmanteau of the Hindi words for cow and terrorism, on social media – were reported from 19 of 29 Indian states, with Uttar Pradesh (10), Haryana (9), Gujarat (6), Karnataka (6), Madhya Pradesh (4), Delhi (4) and Rajasthan (4) reporting the highest number of cases.

    In 23 attacks, the attackers were mobs or groups of people who belonged to Hindu groups, such as the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, Bajrang Dal and local Gau Rakshak Samitis.
    https://www.hindustantimes.com/india...GSSaXgpLO.html

    Please help me understand why those who killed someone because a cow is holy to them are not a terrorist?


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    My guess this thread is to indirectly defend the killing of the Tailor.. well ok good job where the tailor was to be called Hindu extremist..blockbuster thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    My guess this thread is to indirectly defend the killing of the Tailor.. well ok good job where the tailor was to be called Hindu extremist..blockbuster thread
    You guess too much, this isnt a quiz.

    Please stick to the thread, we are not in occupied Kashmir now.

    Do you believe there are Hindu extremists in India and if so how many? Very easy question.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    You guess too much, this isnt a quiz.

    Please stick to the thread, we are not in occupied Kashmir now.

    Do you believe there are Hindu extremists in India and if so how many? Very easy question.
    I have said multiple times in threads with BJP /Hindtuva, don't have to explain anything to you, your agenda is obvious.

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    There are plenty Hindu extremists in India like that fat guy who runs Sudarshan news on youtube, Adityanath, Uma Bharti, Pravin Togadia the list is endless.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PakLFC View Post
    There are plenty Hindu extremists in India like that fat guy who runs Sudarshan news on youtube, Adityanath, Uma Bharti, Pravin Togadia the list is endless.
    Don't tell me that troll has a following in Pakistan? He is a joker

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    My definition of extremism is extremism by principle. As far as I know an extremist is a person who takes their ideology to its logical extreme. Lets say a particular ideology prescribes death penalty as a punishment to homosexuals or death punishment to a person who doesn't follow that ideology. The believers of such ideology would carry out these punishments, no ifs and buts.

    Based on above definition an Hindu extreme should be a person who follows hinduism to its logical extreme. But there is no particular ideology for Hindus. It is not a religion of the scriptures. The core tenet of Hinduisim is liberation of the soul from maya. Based on this definition, unfortunately there aren't many hindu extremists as every one is trapped in materialism and worldy desires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    My definition is very clear. In my book itís a terrorist and I said there hasnít been a single designated Hindu terrorist who did terrorism using the name of religion. I still havenít seen names.

    Itís you who seemed to be confused. There is not a single incident I remember across the globe of Hindus destroying properties or acts of terrorism in the name of religion. As I said you are confusing criminals and terrorists. I gave you my definition and why do I get the feeling you understand it and are just stalling.
    Your definition of terrorism is if US, UK or India say someone is a terrorist. But of course by that definition there's no such thing as Saudi sponsored terrorism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    I have not seen any post supporting these killers. These killers are extremists just like Nupur Sharma and her supporters.
    Really? Killers and Nupur Sharma are on the same boat? In that case, Richard Dawkins and most atheists are extremists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    A poster suggested.

    "No there are no Hindu extremists in India."

    Is this true or a Hindu Citizens of India in denial?

    Muslims, Christians and others accept a small minority of extremists exist claiming to follow their faith.

    Why are Hindus so reluctant or are we being misled by the news of events in India?

    It's as if, that poster was saying, "I am a prostitute and I am also a virgin".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ_Pal View Post
    It was very rare before 2000. Hindus were considered docile and weak and super soft. The thug Hindu image is a new concept. In India in sensitive areas, it was always about street power. Who ever rules the streets get their way with the blessings of secular liberals.
    Hindus have stated fighting back as they gained organizational strength through RSS and BJP. You cut diamond with a diamond. You cannot go into a fight armed with nothing when the opposite side do not hesitate to kill.

    We can never eradicate extremism as long as people are faithful to their religion and faith overrides common sense .
    However there are things the Government can do to minimize extremism. Those includes monitoring what is being preached and taught at religious schools, public sermons and speeches.
    Massive falsehood. There are millions of Muslims around the world who are very very faithful to their religion and have nothing to do with extremism. Same goes for Christians, Hindus and all other religious denominations.

    Tying extremism to religiosity is the argument of a pseudo intellectual. I am not a devout Muslim, yet I respect those who have a clear head about their faith, and most faiths in the world teach humility, tolerance, and value of human lives and have nothing to do with extremism.

    Extremism is a product of politics, and unethical use of religion by politics combined with the severe lack of knowledge of religion, be it any religion.

    Hindus are not fighting back, they have just learnt the ways of uneducated muslim extremists and are now setting fire to their own country. This is not a reaction borne of necessity but one borne of politics used by Modi and other right wing Hindus.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cricfan4eva View Post
    Don't tell me that troll has a following in Pakistan? He is a joker
    Comedians have a vast following on youtube


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    Quote Originally Posted by ahsan17 View Post
    We have been over this before. Find me which Saudi government official is on the list you mention.
    Name the countries which have accused the saudi government official of terrorism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Name the countries which have accused the saudi government official of terrorism.
    Exactly my point. So you think Saudi doesn't sponsor or support terrorism anywhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahsan17 View Post
    Exactly my point. So you think Saudi doesn't sponsor or support terrorism anywhere?
    If it does, that country has to complain. Take the matter to the proper forums.No?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    Sacred games is not a documentary nor it is the reflection of any reality. Case in point: the story premise itself lol.
    Yet you ignore it touches on an important point of babri masjid


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    Do you feel this is a growing problem and many residents are either in denial or dont want to entertain this serious problem?

    @Local Dada please explain.
    -1984 sikh riots
    -babri masjid
    -93 bombay riots
    -gujrat under modi

    If this is not hindu extremism and is all normal than we cant say much


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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    -1984 sikh riots
    -babri masjid
    -93 bombay riots
    -gujrat under modi

    If this is not hindu extremism and is all normal than we cant say much
    How does 1984 riots come even into picture here? It was one political party going after one community to take revenge of killing of their leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kumjsr View Post
    How does 1984 riots come even into picture here? It was one political party going after one community to take revenge of killing of their leader.
    The political party gave free hand the killing was being done by the locals


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    Quote Originally Posted by kumjsr View Post
    How does 1984 riots come even into picture here? It was one political party going after one community to take revenge of killing of their leader.
    One political party going after one community. Isn't that extremism?

    It is like Nazis going after Jews.

    Definitely extremism/terrorism.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    One political party going after one community. Isn't that extremism?

    It is like Nazis going after Jews.

    Definitely extremism/terrorism.
    Question is how is it related to Hinduism?

    Thread title is about Hindu extremism.

    Who claimed that there are no extremist in India? Recently two extremists beheaded a tailor and both killers are Indians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    The political party gave free hand the killing was being done by the locals
    Please read thread title.

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    There is no hindu extremism or terrorism. I mean there is no extremism in the form we know it. There are no Al Qaeda or ISIS or Boko Haraam or there is no hindu shouting Jai Shri Ram and shooting in Orlando nightclub or Ariana Grande's concert or in London Bridge or in Paris or in......list goes on and on. So there is no terrorism from any hindutva groups anywhere in the world, including in India. People who says otherwise is clearly lieing to themselves as no one else anywhere in the world buy such narrative.

    Every extremist/terrorist organization has a cause. There is no reason for any hindus to take that route. Hinduism is the world's oldest religion and it is not into convesion. Hindusim only believes in Karma, Moksha and Dharma...it dont believe in forcing people to adopt hinduism. So for any hindutva organization to take the route of terrorism is meaningless as there is no need.

    Now if by extremism, OP meant some idiot somewhere killing people for eating beef or spreading hatred in social media...ofcourse there are many in India. You will find such nutcases everywhere..UK, USA, Aust everywhere. India is a country of 1.5 billion people and there are nutjobs everywhere belonging to every religion. Infact, extremism can be of many form...meaningless hatred towards someone, extreme prejudice towards something or cult worshipping somebody is also some form of extremism and you will find many such people every where including in internet forums.

    But there are no hindu terrorist/extremist groups in the form we know it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    There is no hindu extremism or terrorism. I mean there is no extremism in the form we know it. There are no Al Qaeda or ISIS or Boko Haraam or there is no hindu shouting Jai Shri Ram and shooting in Orlando nightclub or Ariana Grande's concert or in London Bridge or in Paris or in......list goes on and on. So there is no terrorism from any hindutva groups anywhere in the world, including in India. People who says otherwise is clearly lieing to themselves as no one else anywhere in the world buy such narrative.

    Every extremist/terrorist organization has a cause. There is no reason for any hindus to take that route. Hinduism is the world's oldest religion and it is not into convesion. Hindusim only believes in Karma, Moksha and Dharma...it dont believe in forcing people to adopt hinduism. So for any hindutva organization to take the route of terrorism is meaningless as there is no need.

    Now if by extremism, OP meant some idiot somewhere killing people for eating beef or spreading hatred in social media...ofcourse there are many in India. You will find such nutcases everywhere..UK, USA, Aust everywhere. India is a country of 1.5 billion people and there are nutjobs everywhere belonging to every religion. Infact, extremism can be of many form...meaningless hatred towards someone, extreme prejudice towards something or cult worshipping somebody is also some form of extremism and you will find many such people every where including in internet forums.

    But there are no hindu terrorist/extremist groups in the form we know it is.
    Thatís exactly the point all of us are making but you articulated it much better.

    As you see people are equating an offensive comment with a beheading. Obviously the guy saying it above is someone no one takes seriously but there is an effort to find a balance between the 2.

    If beheading and destruction of property is seen as the same as saying some offensive stuff than the criteria becomes broad, I guess 99% of the human population can be called extremists lol.

    Just another example, the op went to pretty much most news websites but missed headlines about Shiv Sena and was coming up with the same rhetoric you see on clips of some random Pakistani morning shows catered to housewives that regurgitate the same RSS or RAA ki shazish, Shiv Sena this that, BJP, Modi etc lol.

    Looks like most watch these shows than follow actual world news and get a more educated opinion

    I want to have a good balanced debate.sure there are flaws in India or with the govt but the people who run the site need to decide if they want this to become a YouTube comment section or a place where there is actual balanced debate. I can understand if there is a Pakistani bias obviously but some of the intent behind these topics or attempts are crystal clear that they are just to get a reaction. Thatís why itís better to sit back and enjoy the ride rather than take it seriously.

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    If there are no Hindu terrorists, then what is this ?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffron_terror

    Even the biggest opposition leader of India Rahul Gandhi has spoken about it many times,

    https://m.timesofindia.com/india/rah...ow/7115703.cms

    Called Hindu terrorists biggest threat to India. Respect to him for admitting the truth.

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    Hindu extremists may not be like ISIS but they are still extremists. They are like far-right domestic terrorists from North America. Their goal is not necessarily world domination; rather, they seem to desire elimination/suppression of Muslims.

    Under BJP, the number seems to have risen.
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    If this statement is true then one can only conclude:

    a) All.hindus are extremists and extremism is a core part of who they are. Hence they can't even see it.

    b) the person who said it is not very bright

    I suspect it is "b"..

    Every society has extremists..there are no societies where there aren't any..perhaps ignoring this thread would be better for many posters..

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomboomcheema View Post
    If there are no Hindu terrorists, then what is this ?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffron_terror

    Even the biggest opposition leader of India Rahul Gandhi has spoken about it many times,

    https://m.timesofindia.com/india/rah...ow/7115703.cms

    Called Hindu terrorists biggest threat to India. Respect to him for admitting the truth.
    I posted this very info earlier in this thread, but as usual, facts are ignored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    Hindu extremists may not be like ISIS but they are still extremists. They are like far-right domestic terrorists from North America. Their goal is not necessarily world domination; rather, they seem to desire elimination/suppression of Muslims.

    Under BJP, the number seems to have risen.
    Ironic you say this because muslims are flourishing in India. There are muslim representations in every field - sports, politics, cinema everywhere.

    On the other hand, Hindus are denied of almost every right in countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh. India's ex president was muslim...can a hindu hold such position in Pak/BD?

    But somehow muslims are being supressed in India..lol. Can anyone from a supress community have the guts to do beheading openly and record in camera?

    The problem is no one buys this narrative unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    -1984 sikh riots
    -babri masjid
    -93 bombay riots
    -gujrat under modi

    If this is not hindu extremism and is all normal than we cant say much
    1. Nothing to do with Hindus. It was congress party workers vs the Sikhs.

    2. Bombay Riots: Muslims killed Hindus in muslim majority areas after the babri demolition. Hindu backlash started after that.

    3.It was a spontaneous reaction to muslims burning alive 59 hindus in a planned attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    Hindu extremists may not be like ISIS but they are still extremists. They are like far-right domestic terrorists from North America. Their goal is not necessarily world domination; rather, they seem to desire elimination/suppression of Muslims.

    Under BJP, the number seems to have risen.
    yeah like the tailor who you said was an Hindu extremist because his killers called him that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    yeah like the tailor who you said was an Hindu extremist because his killers called him that.
    If he supported Nupur Sharma, he was an extremist. If not, he was not an extremist. That's my stance.

    Supporting Nupur Sharma is equivalent to supporting Anjem Choudary or Westboro Baptist Church.

    You are trying to change the topic by focusing on the beheading. Topic is about Hindu extremism. Do you think it exists? I think it does.


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    Vice documentary.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    If it does, that country has to complain. Take the matter to the proper forums.No?
    Except the countries that are victims of Saudi sponsored terrorism have a conflict of interest due to being in bed with their government.

    All that is to say, your argument that neutral organizations must certify that someone or some country is involved in terrorism doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    If he supported Nupur Sharma, he was an extremist. If not, he was not an extremist. That's my stance.

    Supporting Nupur Sharma is equivalent to supporting Anjem Choudary or Westboro Baptist Church.

    You are trying to change the topic by focusing on the beheading. Topic is about Hindu extremism. Do you think it exists? I think it does.
    That was not ur stance, you said he was an extremist because the killers in the video killed him.

    Donít change your tune after someone corrected you

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    That was not ur stance, you said he was an extremist because the killers in the video killed him.

    Donít change your tune after someone corrected you
    If I get corrected, I have no issue in changing my stance. That's very normal.

    I am yet to see you condemn extremist Hindus. You always shift the goalpost. Why is that?


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