"No there are no Hindu extremists in India"

[KingKhanWC]

A poster suggested.

"No there are no Hindu extremists in India."

Is this true or a Hindu Citizens of India in denial?

Muslims, Christians and others accept a small minority of extremists exist claiming to follow their faith.

Why are Hindus so reluctant or are we being misled by the news of events in India?

[Major]

The poster who made this claim, sacred games must have bothered him soo much

[Champ_Pal]

It was a reactionary extremism to fight Islamic extremism. Both are equally bad.

[KingKhanWC]

The poster who made this claim, sacred games must have bothered him soo much

Do you feel this is a growing problem and many residents are either in denial or dont want to entertain this serious problem?

@Local Dada please explain.

[KingKhanWC]

It was a reactionary extremism to fight Islamic extremism. Both are equally bad.

So Hindu extremism never existed before Muslims and its the fault of the Muslims too?

Can you then explain why Hindu extremist have been burning and killing Christians in India?

[Champ_Pal]

So Hindu extremism never existed before Muslims and its the fault of the Muslims too?

Can you then explain why Hindu extremist have been burning and killing Christians in India?

It was very rare before 2000. Hindus were considered docile and weak and super soft. The thug Hindu image is a new concept. In India in sensitive areas, it was always about street power. Who ever rules the streets get their way with the blessings of secular liberals.
Hindus have stated fighting back as they gained organizational strength through RSS and BJP. You cut diamond with a diamond. You cannot go into a fight armed with nothing when the opposite side do not hesitate to kill.

We can never eradicate extremism as long as people are faithful to their religion and faith overrides common sense .
However there are things the Government can do to minimize extremism. Those includes monitoring what is being preached and taught at religious schools, public sermons and speeches.

[Local.Dada]

Do you feel this is a growing problem and many residents are either in denial or dont want to entertain this serious problem?

@Local Dada please explain.

How many designated Hindu terrorists do you know?

Please don’t tell me Kulbhushan Jadhav booked by Pakistan courts but some legitimate terrorist who is wanted by CBI, FBI, Mi-6 for religious terrorism?

Modi etc are only terrorists in your little world.

Give me names.

[KingKhanWC]

It was very rare before 2000. Hindus were considered docile and weak and super soft. The thug Hindu image is a new concept. In India in sensitive areas, it was always about street power. Who ever rules the streets get their way with the blessings of secular liberals.
Hindus have stated fighting back as they gained organizational strength through RSS and BJP. You cut diamond with a diamond. You cannot go into a fight armed with nothing when the opposite side do not hesitate to kill.

We can never eradicate extremism as long as people are faithful to their religion and faith overrides common sense .
However there are things the Government can do to minimize extremism. Those includes monitoring what is being preached and taught at religious schools, public sermons and speeches.

Attacks against Christians by Hindus go back to the 60's. In 80's,90's and 2000's they became regular.
Now even more so.

You claimed it was because of Muslims?

How many HIndu extremist would you estimate in India right now?

[KingKhanWC]

How many designated Hindu terrorists do you know?

Please don’t tell me Kulbhushan Jadhav booked by Pakistan courts but some legitimate terrorist who is wanted by CBI, FBI, Mi-6 for religious terrorism?

Modi etc are only terrorists in your little world.

Give me names.

Lets stick to the topic please, the usual Indian diversion is boring.

You have maybe 1 billion Hindus in India. How many would you estimate as extremists?

Ill give you one name, Bajrang Dal. Thousands and thousands of members.

[Local.Dada]

Lets stick to the topic please, the usual Indian diversion is boring.

You have maybe 1 billion Hindus in India. How many would you estimate as extremists?

Ill give you one name, Bajrang Dal. Thousands and thousands of members.

I would estimate 0.

Banjrang Dal is not active anymore. Proud of Hindus to nip such things in the bud.

What diversion. Your topic was Hindu extremists. I said there aren’t any. If you know some legitimate ones, name them. Not certified by you but by some credible source.

[Local.Dada]

The poster who made this claim, sacred games must have bothered him soo much

Sacred games is not a documentary nor it is the reflection of any reality. Case in point: the story premise itself lol.

[KingKhanWC]

I would estimate 0.

Banjrang Dal is not active anymore. Proud of Hindus to nip such things in the bud.

What diversion. Your topic was Hindu extremists. I said there aren’t any. If you know some legitimate ones, name them. Not certified by you but by some credible source.

Udaipur killing: VHP, Bajrang Dal demand gallows for the killers

https://www.hindustantimes.com/citie...528241282.html

Hindutimes , many videos, audio and articles quoting them would suggest otherwise.

How about Shiv Sena?

[Local.Dada]

https://www.hindustantimes.com/citie...528241282.html

Hindutimes , many videos, audio and articles quoting them would suggest otherwise.

How about Shiv Sena?

Shiv sena

You should click on the current headlines instead of googling some keywords and not even making an effort to read. Tough to miss given Shiv Sena has been in the headlines over the last week. Surprise that given how obsessed you are with Indian news you missed it.

Bajrang Dal is a non-entity now as already mentioned.

A criminal with a Hindu name doing a crime is not exactly Hindu terrorism.

[Champ_Pal]

Attacks against Christians by Hindus go back to the 60's. In 80's,90's and 2000's they became regular.
Now even more so.

You claimed it was because of Muslims?

How many HIndu extremist would you estimate in India right now?

You have to be very religious to become an extremist. Among Hindus, majority are not very religious. Nationalism is the new mantra.

Attacks on Christians is not because of Christians. Its the Shudra Castes vs Dalits & Tribals that has been happening since independence. Many Dalits are Christians. Hence it is considered as attacks on Christians.

[Local.Dada]

The fact that Op has to go on a scavenger hunt to the corners of the internet nullifies the argument.

It should be as simple as going to a legit site and getting some names on the list.

Till then thread can be dead and buried.

[Champ_Pal]

https://www.hindustantimes.com/citie...528241282.html

Hindutimes , many videos, audio and articles quoting them would suggest otherwise.

How about Shiv Sena?

Shivsena is a secular party now. Once Bal Thackerey died, his successors jumped in bed with woke liberals.

[KingKhanWC]

Shivsena is a secular party now. Once Bal Thackerey died, his successors jumped in bed with woke liberals.

Charming

What about RSS?

[Local.Dada]

Shivsena is a secular party now. Once Bal Thackerey died, his successors jumped in bed with woke liberals.

I am sure if he is competent enough to search on Google, he can read up on some of the names he is throwing around. Explaining it will not make it easy. Just a friendly advice.

[KingKhanWC]

Shiv sena

You should click on the current headlines instead of googling some keywords and not even making an effort to read. Tough to miss given Shiv Sena has been in the headlines over the last week. Surprise that given how obsessed you are with Indian news you missed it.

Bajrang Dal is a non-entity now as already mentioned.

A criminal with a Hindu name doing a crime is not exactly Hindu terrorism.

You have kindly answered there are NO Hindu extremists in this world. I love the answer.

[Local.Dada]

Charming

What about RSS?

Not a religious organization. C’mon man. Rooting for you now. You need to try harder.

[Technics 1210]

A poster suggested.

"No there are no Hindu extremists in India."

Is this true or a Hindu Citizens of India in denial?

Muslims, Christians and others accept a small minority of extremists exist claiming to follow their faith.

Why are Hindus so reluctant or are we being misled by the news of events in India?

I thought the title of the thread was the beginning of a joke, but in actual fact, is a joke!

[KingKhanWC]

Not a religious organization. C’mon man. Rooting for you now. You need to try harder.

Please give us YOUR definition of an EXTREMIST.

Tip - Extremists can come in all types in the real...
@cricketjoshila come on give us your number(s).

[KingKhanWC]

I thought the title of the thread was the beginning of a joke, but in actual fact, is a joke!

This will be another classic in the archives of Pakpassion.

I never thought, so many citizens of India believe a Hindu cannot be extremist.

[Technics 1210]

To claim there is no such thing as a Hindu extremist is simply mindboggling.

The term Saffron Terror exists for a reason; terrorism carried out by Hindu extremists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffron_terror

We must all remember, Nathuram Godse, assassinated Mahatma Gandhi, and Godse is revered within the RSS ideology.

[ahsan17]

How many designated Hindu terrorists do you know?

Please don’t tell me Kulbhushan Jadhav booked by Pakistan courts but some legitimate terrorist who is wanted by CBI, FBI, Mi-6 for religious terrorism?

Modi etc are only terrorists in your little world.

Give me names.

Why do you think terrorists wanted by India, US or UK are legitimate but not by Pakistan? Is this is the usual Indian logic that only West or India can pass judgement on what is terrorism and what is not?

[ahsan17]

How many designated Hindu terrorists do you know?

Please don’t tell me Kulbhushan Jadhav booked by Pakistan courts but some legitimate terrorist who is wanted by CBI, FBI, Mi-6 for religious terrorism?

Modi etc are only terrorists in your little world.

Give me names.

Let me ask a similar question I asked CJ for which he had no answer to. Which Saudi government official is wanted for terrorism by the organizations you mentioned? By your logic then, Saudi government has nothing to do with terrorism anywhere.

[sweep_shot]

There are plenty of Hindu extremists.

Even the tailor who was killed was perhaps a closet extremist too (based on his social media post).

[JaDed]

There are plenty of Hindu extremists.

Even the tailor who was killed was perhaps a closet extremist too (based on his social media post).

Just like you based on your posts here.

[sweep_shot]

Just like you based on your posts here.

How am I an extremist? When did I attack another faith or another human?

Yes. My views can be conservative/traditional but that's not extremism.

Stop supporting your fellow Indians who happen to be extremists.

[kumjsr]

How am I an extremist? When did I attack another faith or another human?

Yes. My views can be conservative/traditional but that's not extremism.

Stop supporting your fellow extremist Indians.

Can you tell everyone what did tailor post?

[KingKhanWC]

Just like you based on your posts here.

Hello

The thread is about Hindu extremism. Please stick to the topic, nobody cares for your opinion about posters but I care for your opinion on this subject.

Do you believe there are Hindu extremists as many of your friends dont? If yes, estimate a number.

[sweep_shot]

Can you tell everyone what did tailor post?

You can check on the internet.

He was an extremist just like many modern day Indians. It is a sad truth.

[kumjsr]

You can check on the internet.

He was an extremist just like many modern day Indians. It is a sad truth.

Didn't find the post. Since you have already seen that or know about it, you can share details.

Meanwhile a week before getting beheaded he had filed a police complaint about death threats. He had mentioned that he didn't post anything and his son shared a post from his phone while playing a game.

He didn't open his shop for 6 days.

Police intervened and both sides reached agreement about the issue.

So he opened the shop and next day he was beheaded.

Which part looks like extremism to you?

Why was he beheaded after reaching an agreement with other side?

[cricketjoshila]

Please give us YOUR definition of an EXTREMIST.

Tip - Extremists can come in all types in the real...
@cricketjoshila come on give us your number(s).

May be go to the UNSC list and try to find the count.

[sweep_shot]

Didn't find the post. Since you have already seen that or know about it, you can share details.

Meanwhile a week before getting beheaded he had filed a police complaint about death threats. He had mentioned that he didn't post anything and his son shared a post from his phone while playing a game.

He didn't open his shop for 6 days.

Police intervened and both sides reached agreement about the issue.

So he opened the shop and next day he was beheaded.

Which part looks like extremism to you?

Why was he beheaded after reaching an agreement with other side?

I am not defending the beheading. That was unnecessary and counterproductive.

But, the tailor seemed to have supported Nupur Sharma (who is clearly a Hindu extremist). Therefore, it is fair to call him a closet extremist (just like many BJP supporters).

[KingKhanWC]

May be go to the UNSC list and try to find the count.

No need when you are here.

Please answer the question. Do you believe there is Hindu extremism in India and if so how big is this?

[kumjsr]

I am not defending the beheading. That was unnecessary and counterproductive.

But, the tailor seemed to have supported Nupur Sharma (who is clearly a Hindu extremist). Therefore, it is fair to call him a closet extremist (just like many BJP supporters).

Did you read my previous post?

1. Apparently video of Nupur Sharma was shared from his account. Hasn't the video been shared even by non-Hindu journalists also earlier.
2. Tailor denied sharing the post.
3. Tailor complained about threats.
4. Police brokered the agreement between both parties and he opened the shop after that.
5. Tailor believed the other side and even gave a handwritten note to police that he doesn't want any action against other side.
6. He was beheaded after that.

From 1-6 which part looks like extremism?

Why would extremist believe other side and agree to police not taking any action on then after discussion?

[ahsan17]

May be go to the UNSC list and try to find the count.

We have been over this before. Find me which Saudi government official is on the list you mention.

[sweep_shot]

Did you read my previous post?

1. Apparently video of Nupur Sharma was shared from his account. Hasn't the video been shared even by non-Hindu journalists also earlier.
2. Tailor denied sharing the post.
3. Tailor complained about threats.
4. Police brokered the agreement between both parties and he opened the shop after that.
5. Tailor believed the other side and even gave a handwritten note to police that he doesn't want any action against other side.
6. He was beheaded after that.

From 1-6 which part looks like extremism?

Why would extremist believe other side and agree to police not taking any action on then after discussion?

Okay. If your information is right, he is not an extremist. But, that doesn't change the fact there are many radical Hindus in India currently.

[kumjsr]

Okay. If your information is right, he is not an extremist. But, that doesn't change the fact there are many radical Hindus in India currently.

There are no ifs and buts here.

No one on PP knows for sure that he supported Nupur Sharma and directly believed the version of story shared by people who beheaded him.

Why do you think that so many posters are ready to believe killers than the person who had already denied sharing the post?

Is it because there is support to killers to some extent?

[Local.Dada]

Please give us YOUR definition of an EXTREMIST.

Tip - Extremists can come in all types in the real...
@cricketjoshila come on give us your number(s).

My definition is very clear. In my book it’s a terrorist and I said there hasn’t been a single designated Hindu terrorist who did terrorism using the name of religion. I still haven’t seen names.

It’s you who seemed to be confused. There is not a single incident I remember across the globe of Hindus destroying properties or acts of terrorism in the name of religion. As I said you are confusing criminals and terrorists. I gave you my definition and why do I get the feeling you understand it and are just stalling.

[sweep_shot]

There are no ifs and buts here.

No one on PP knows for sure that he supported Nupur Sharma and directly believed the version of story shared by people who beheaded him.

Why do you think that so many posters are ready to believe killers than the person who had already denied sharing the post?

Is it because there is support to killers to some extent?

I have not seen any post supporting these killers. These killers are extremists just like Nupur Sharma and her supporters.

[Local.Dada]

I have not seen any post supporting these killers. These killers are extremists just like Nupur Sharma and her supporters.

So you are saying beheading someone and saying an offensive thing is the same thing.

I wonder if given a choice what someone would prefer someone insulting them or beheading them?

[kumjsr]

I have not seen any post supporting these killers. These killers are extremists just like Nupur Sharma and her supporters.

If they are not supporting killers to some extent, then why so many posters are ready to believe the version of story shared by killers?

Check the threads, many people by called tailor extremist or idiot. They aren't sure what he shared, they haven't seen his post, yet they are ready to believe that he insulted other religion.

How do people know for sure that he supports Nupur Sharma? Because killers said so?

How do you explain such faith in killers story without it being proved? If this is not partial support to killers, then what is it?

[KingKhanWC]

My definition is very clear. In my book it’s a terrorist and I said there hasn’t been a single designated Hindu terrorist who did terrorism using the name of religion. I still haven’t seen names.

It’s you who seemed to be confused. There is not a single incident I remember across the globe of Hindus destroying properties or acts of terrorism in the name of religion. As I said you are confusing criminals and terrorists. I gave you my definition and why do I get the feeling you understand it and are just stalling.

Im here to learn from our Indian friends, sure a little confused as I've never come across anyone saying there is no extremists in a group of a billion people.

What is your definition of a terrorist? Because your definition of an extremist is not compatible with the English language or you thinking in terms of Sanskrit ?

Sure, lets go back a few years and start with what INDIAN media calls Cow-Terorism. I have a feeling this is only in India.

2017 on track to be worst-ever year for cow-related violence

In the first six months of 2017, 20 cow-terror attacks were reported–more than 75% of the 2016 figure, which was the worst year for such violence since 2010.

The attacks include mob lynching, attacks by vigilantes, murder and attempt to murder, harassment, assault and gang-rape. In two attacks, the victims/survivors were chained, stripped and beaten, while in two others, the victims were hanged.

These attacks – sometimes collectively referred to as gautankwad, a portmanteau of the Hindi words for cow and terrorism, on social media – were reported from 19 of 29 Indian states, with Uttar Pradesh (10), Haryana (9), Gujarat (6), Karnataka (6), Madhya Pradesh (4), Delhi (4) and Rajasthan (4) reporting the highest number of cases.

In 23 attacks, the attackers were mobs or groups of people who belonged to Hindu groups, such as the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, Bajrang Dal and local Gau Rakshak Samitis.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india...GSSaXgpLO.html

Please help me understand why those who killed someone because a cow is holy to them are not a terrorist?

[JaDed]

My guess this thread is to indirectly defend the killing of the Tailor.. well ok good job where the tailor was to be called Hindu extremist..blockbuster thread

[KingKhanWC]

My guess this thread is to indirectly defend the killing of the Tailor.. well ok good job where the tailor was to be called Hindu extremist..blockbuster thread

You guess too much, this isnt a quiz.

Please stick to the thread, we are not in occupied Kashmir now.

Do you believe there are Hindu extremists in India and if so how many? Very easy question.

[JaDed]

You guess too much, this isnt a quiz.

Please stick to the thread, we are not in occupied Kashmir now.

Do you believe there are Hindu extremists in India and if so how many? Very easy question.

I have said multiple times in threads with BJP /Hindtuva, don't have to explain anything to you, your agenda is obvious.

[PakLFC]

There are plenty Hindu extremists in India like that fat guy who runs Sudarshan news on youtube, Adityanath, Uma Bharti, Pravin Togadia the list is endless.

[Cricfan4eva]

There are plenty Hindu extremists in India like that fat guy who runs Sudarshan news on youtube, Adityanath, Uma Bharti, Pravin Togadia the list is endless.

Don't tell me that troll has a following in Pakistan? He is a joker

[IndoorCricket]

My definition of extremism is extremism by principle. As far as I know an extremist is a person who takes their ideology to its logical extreme. Lets say a particular ideology prescribes death penalty as a punishment to homosexuals or death punishment to a person who doesn't follow that ideology. The believers of such ideology would carry out these punishments, no ifs and buts.

Based on above definition an Hindu extreme should be a person who follows hinduism to its logical extreme. But there is no particular ideology for Hindus. It is not a religion of the scriptures. The core tenet of Hinduisim is liberation of the soul from maya. Based on this definition, unfortunately there aren't many hindu extremists as every one is trapped in materialism and worldy desires.

[ahsan17]

My definition is very clear. In my book it’s a terrorist and I said there hasn’t been a single designated Hindu terrorist who did terrorism using the name of religion. I still haven’t seen names.

It’s you who seemed to be confused. There is not a single incident I remember across the globe of Hindus destroying properties or acts of terrorism in the name of religion. As I said you are confusing criminals and terrorists. I gave you my definition and why do I get the feeling you understand it and are just stalling.

Your definition of terrorism is if US, UK or India say someone is a terrorist. But of course by that definition there's no such thing as Saudi sponsored terrorism.

[IndoorCricket]

I have not seen any post supporting these killers. These killers are extremists just like Nupur Sharma and her supporters.

Really? Killers and Nupur Sharma are on the same boat? In that case, Richard Dawkins and most atheists are extremists.

[Colorblind Genius]

A poster suggested.

"No there are no Hindu extremists in India."

Is this true or a Hindu Citizens of India in denial?

Muslims, Christians and others accept a small minority of extremists exist claiming to follow their faith.

Why are Hindus so reluctant or are we being misled by the news of events in India?

It's as if, that poster was saying, "I am a prostitute and I am also a virgin".

[Stewie]

It was very rare before 2000. Hindus were considered docile and weak and super soft. The thug Hindu image is a new concept. In India in sensitive areas, it was always about street power. Who ever rules the streets get their way with the blessings of secular liberals.
Hindus have stated fighting back as they gained organizational strength through RSS and BJP. You cut diamond with a diamond. You cannot go into a fight armed with nothing when the opposite side do not hesitate to kill.

We can never eradicate extremism as long as people are faithful to their religion and faith overrides common sense .
However there are things the Government can do to minimize extremism. Those includes monitoring what is being preached and taught at religious schools, public sermons and speeches.

Massive falsehood. There are millions of Muslims around the world who are very very faithful to their religion and have nothing to do with extremism. Same goes for Christians, Hindus and all other religious denominations.

Tying extremism to religiosity is the argument of a pseudo intellectual. I am not a devout Muslim, yet I respect those who have a clear head about their faith, and most faiths in the world teach humility, tolerance, and value of human lives and have nothing to do with extremism.

Extremism is a product of politics, and unethical use of religion by politics combined with the severe lack of knowledge of religion, be it any religion.

Hindus are not fighting back, they have just learnt the ways of uneducated muslim extremists and are now setting fire to their own country. This is not a reaction borne of necessity but one borne of politics used by Modi and other right wing Hindus.

[PakLFC]

Don't tell me that troll has a following in Pakistan? He is a joker

Comedians have a vast following on youtube

[cricketjoshila]

We have been over this before. Find me which Saudi government official is on the list you mention.

Name the countries which have accused the saudi government official of terrorism.

[ahsan17]

Name the countries which have accused the saudi government official of terrorism.

Exactly my point. So you think Saudi doesn't sponsor or support terrorism anywhere?

[cricketjoshila]

Exactly my point. So you think Saudi doesn't sponsor or support terrorism anywhere?

If it does, that country has to complain. Take the matter to the proper forums.No?

[Major]

Sacred games is not a documentary nor it is the reflection of any reality. Case in point: the story premise itself lol.

Yet you ignore it touches on an important point of babri masjid

[Major]

Do you feel this is a growing problem and many residents are either in denial or dont want to entertain this serious problem?

@Local Dada please explain.

-1984 sikh riots
-babri masjid
-93 bombay riots
-gujrat under modi

If this is not hindu extremism and is all normal than we cant say much

[kumjsr]

-1984 sikh riots
-babri masjid
-93 bombay riots
-gujrat under modi

If this is not hindu extremism and is all normal than we cant say much

How does 1984 riots come even into picture here? It was one political party going after one community to take revenge of killing of their leader.

[Major]

How does 1984 riots come even into picture here? It was one political party going after one community to take revenge of killing of their leader.

The political party gave free hand the killing was being done by the locals

[sweep_shot]

How does 1984 riots come even into picture here? It was one political party going after one community to take revenge of killing of their leader.

One political party going after one community. Isn't that extremism?

It is like Nazis going after Jews.

Definitely extremism/terrorism.

[kumjsr]

One political party going after one community. Isn't that extremism?

It is like Nazis going after Jews.

Definitely extremism/terrorism.

Question is how is it related to Hinduism?

Thread title is about Hindu extremism.

Who claimed that there are no extremist in India? Recently two extremists beheaded a tailor and both killers are Indians.

[kumjsr]

The political party gave free hand the killing was being done by the locals

Please read thread title.

[Rajdeep]

There is no hindu extremism or terrorism. I mean there is no extremism in the form we know it. There are no Al Qaeda or ISIS or Boko Haraam or there is no hindu shouting Jai Shri Ram and shooting in Orlando nightclub or Ariana Grande's concert or in London Bridge or in Paris or in......list goes on and on. So there is no terrorism from any hindutva groups anywhere in the world, including in India. People who says otherwise is clearly lieing to themselves as no one else anywhere in the world buy such narrative.

Every extremist/terrorist organization has a cause. There is no reason for any hindus to take that route. Hinduism is the world's oldest religion and it is not into convesion. Hindusim only believes in Karma, Moksha and Dharma...it dont believe in forcing people to adopt hinduism. So for any hindutva organization to take the route of terrorism is meaningless as there is no need.

Now if by extremism, OP meant some idiot somewhere killing people for eating beef or spreading hatred in social media...ofcourse there are many in India. You will find such nutcases everywhere..UK, USA, Aust everywhere. India is a country of 1.5 billion people and there are nutjobs everywhere belonging to every religion. Infact, extremism can be of many form...meaningless hatred towards someone, extreme prejudice towards something or cult worshipping somebody is also some form of extremism and you will find many such people every where including in internet forums.

But there are no hindu terrorist/extremist groups in the form we know it is.

[Local.Dada]

There is no hindu extremism or terrorism. I mean there is no extremism in the form we know it. There are no Al Qaeda or ISIS or Boko Haraam or there is no hindu shouting Jai Shri Ram and shooting in Orlando nightclub or Ariana Grande's concert or in London Bridge or in Paris or in......list goes on and on. So there is no terrorism from any hindutva groups anywhere in the world, including in India. People who says otherwise is clearly lieing to themselves as no one else anywhere in the world buy such narrative.

Every extremist/terrorist organization has a cause. There is no reason for any hindus to take that route. Hinduism is the world's oldest religion and it is not into convesion. Hindusim only believes in Karma, Moksha and Dharma...it dont believe in forcing people to adopt hinduism. So for any hindutva organization to take the route of terrorism is meaningless as there is no need.

Now if by extremism, OP meant some idiot somewhere killing people for eating beef or spreading hatred in social media...ofcourse there are many in India. You will find such nutcases everywhere..UK, USA, Aust everywhere. India is a country of 1.5 billion people and there are nutjobs everywhere belonging to every religion. Infact, extremism can be of many form...meaningless hatred towards someone, extreme prejudice towards something or cult worshipping somebody is also some form of extremism and you will find many such people every where including in internet forums.

But there are no hindu terrorist/extremist groups in the form we know it is.

That’s exactly the point all of us are making but you articulated it much better.

As you see people are equating an offensive comment with a beheading. Obviously the guy saying it above is someone no one takes seriously but there is an effort to find a balance between the 2.

If beheading and destruction of property is seen as the same as saying some offensive stuff than the criteria becomes broad, I guess 99% of the human population can be called extremists lol.

Just another example, the op went to pretty much most news websites but missed headlines about Shiv Sena and was coming up with the same rhetoric you see on clips of some random Pakistani morning shows catered to housewives that regurgitate the same RSS or RAA ki shazish, Shiv Sena this that, BJP, Modi etc lol.

Looks like most watch these shows than follow actual world news and get a more educated opinion

I want to have a good balanced debate.sure there are flaws in India or with the govt but the people who run the site need to decide if they want this to become a YouTube comment section or a place where there is actual balanced debate. I can understand if there is a Pakistani bias obviously but some of the intent behind these topics or attempts are crystal clear that they are just to get a reaction. That’s why it’s better to sit back and enjoy the ride rather than take it seriously.

[boomboomcheema]

If there are no Hindu terrorists, then what is this ?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffron_terror

Even the biggest opposition leader of India Rahul Gandhi has spoken about it many times,

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/rah...ow/7115703.cms

Called Hindu terrorists biggest threat to India. Respect to him for admitting the truth.

[sweep_shot]

Hindu extremists may not be like ISIS but they are still extremists. They are like far-right domestic terrorists from North America. Their goal is not necessarily world domination; rather, they seem to desire elimination/suppression of Muslims.

Under BJP, the number seems to have risen.

[the Great Khan]

If this statement is true then one can only conclude:

a) All.hindus are extremists and extremism is a core part of who they are. Hence they can't even see it.

b) the person who said it is not very bright

I suspect it is "b"..

Every society has extremists..there are no societies where there aren't any..perhaps ignoring this thread would be better for many posters..

[Technics 1210]

If there are no Hindu terrorists, then what is this ?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffron_terror

Even the biggest opposition leader of India Rahul Gandhi has spoken about it many times,

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/rah...ow/7115703.cms

Called Hindu terrorists biggest threat to India. Respect to him for admitting the truth.

I posted this very info earlier in this thread, but as usual, facts are ignored.

[Rajdeep]

Hindu extremists may not be like ISIS but they are still extremists. They are like far-right domestic terrorists from North America. Their goal is not necessarily world domination; rather, they seem to desire elimination/suppression of Muslims.

Under BJP, the number seems to have risen.

Ironic you say this because muslims are flourishing in India. There are muslim representations in every field - sports, politics, cinema everywhere.

On the other hand, Hindus are denied of almost every right in countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh. India's ex president was muslim...can a hindu hold such position in Pak/BD?

But somehow muslims are being supressed in India..lol. Can anyone from a supress community have the guts to do beheading openly and record in camera?

The problem is no one buys this narrative unfortunately.

[cricketjoshila]

-1984 sikh riots
-babri masjid
-93 bombay riots
-gujrat under modi

If this is not hindu extremism and is all normal than we cant say much

1. Nothing to do with Hindus. It was congress party workers vs the Sikhs.

2. Bombay Riots: Muslims killed Hindus in muslim majority areas after the babri demolition. Hindu backlash started after that.

3.It was a spontaneous reaction to muslims burning alive 59 hindus in a planned attack.

[JaDed]

Hindu extremists may not be like ISIS but they are still extremists. They are like far-right domestic terrorists from North America. Their goal is not necessarily world domination; rather, they seem to desire elimination/suppression of Muslims.

Under BJP, the number seems to have risen.

yeah like the tailor who you said was an Hindu extremist because his killers called him that.

[sweep_shot]

yeah like the tailor who you said was an Hindu extremist because his killers called him that.

If he supported Nupur Sharma, he was an extremist. If not, he was not an extremist. That's my stance.

Supporting Nupur Sharma is equivalent to supporting Anjem Choudary or Westboro Baptist Church.

You are trying to change the topic by focusing on the beheading. Topic is about Hindu extremism. Do you think it exists? I think it does.

[sweep_shot]

Vice documentary.

[ahsan17]

If it does, that country has to complain. Take the matter to the proper forums.No?

Except the countries that are victims of Saudi sponsored terrorism have a conflict of interest due to being in bed with their government.

All that is to say, your argument that neutral organizations must certify that someone or some country is involved in terrorism doesn't work.

[JaDed]

If he supported Nupur Sharma, he was an extremist. If not, he was not an extremist. That's my stance.

Supporting Nupur Sharma is equivalent to supporting Anjem Choudary or Westboro Baptist Church.

You are trying to change the topic by focusing on the beheading. Topic is about Hindu extremism. Do you think it exists? I think it does.

That was not ur stance, you said he was an extremist because the killers in the video killed him.

Don’t change your tune after someone corrected you

[sweep_shot]

That was not ur stance, you said he was an extremist because the killers in the video killed him.

Don’t change your tune after someone corrected you

If I get corrected, I have no issue in changing my stance. That's very normal.

I am yet to see you condemn extremist Hindus. You always shift the goalpost. Why is that?