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    Quote Originally Posted by Cric1234 View Post
    Your being harsh he’s not a player for a collapse his game is power hitting for 15-20 balls mixing boundaries with singles.
    Problem is more often he 'power hits' it straight to the fielders hands than the boundaries.


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    No batter should succeed once in 15 to 20 innings.

    To me that is not a batter, rather a slogger.

    That is not what batting is about in my opinion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ArabKnight View Post
    Can you mange find any batsman who is better than him at that position? Who is better than him from Pakistan. I challenge you to find a better batter who bats at 7.
    Not much of a challenge really

    The likes of shadab, nawaz and imad can do a better job than him batting at that position Theres several more from domestics too that could do better than avge 15 for pakistan On top of that they bowl too

    Asifs stats are embarrassing for a batter who offers nothing else to the team

    I use to criticise afridi for his batting but hell he puts asif alis batting to shame


    If pakistan cricket is to move forward they need to stop going back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    No batter should succeed once in 15 to 20 innings.

    To me that is not a batter, rather a slogger.

    That is not what batting is about in my opinion.
    I guess we have different standards for each batter?

    Our openers score 50 off 45 balls. “It’s fine!!!”

    Asif Ali is asked to chase 120 off 60 balls. He slogs and gets out saving the team like a hero. “He is horrible!!!”
    Last edited by ArabKnight; 28th February 2023 at 02:10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArabKnight View Post
    Asif Ali is asked to chase 120 off 60 balls. He slogs and gets out saving the team like a hero. “He is horrible!!!”
    Ask Asif Ali to chase 60 off 50 balls against a half decent bowling attack, and he will disappoint you 18 times out of 20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    Ask Asif Ali to chase 60 off 50 balls against a half decent bowling attack, and he will disappoint you 18 times out of 20.
    Very true.

    We have seen situations countless times now where Asif Ali is required to actually play a proper innings. He ends up letting himself and the team down more than 9/10 times. Just look up how many 50's he's made in his career.

    A game which solely involves 'swing the bat and pray' isn't a recipe for anything other than disaster at international level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    Ask Asif Ali to chase 60 off 50 balls against a half decent bowling attack, and he will disappoint you 18 times out of 20.
    He has chased 24 off 12 balls.


    60 in 50 balls will be an absolute piece of cake for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArabKnight View Post
    He has chased 24 off 12 balls.


    60 in 50 balls will be an absolute piece of cake for him.
    Sure it would.

    Asif Ali:
    Career innings - 49
    Average - 15.11
    50's - 0

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitthestump View Post
    Sure it would.

    Asif Ali:
    Career innings - 49
    Average - 15.11
    50's - 0
    These numbers are beyond embarrassing even more so for a batsmen.
    Last edited by Saj; 28th February 2023 at 22:45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArabKnight View Post
    I guess we have different standards for each batter?

    Our openers score 50 off 45 balls. “It’s fine!!!”

    Asif Ali is asked to chase 120 off 60 balls. He slogs and gets out saving the team like a hero. “He is horrible!!!”
    It depends on what you class as a batter.

    In my book someone who scores 20 off 10 balls once in a blue moon and fails most of the time isn't a batter.


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    Asif Ali isn't reliable, that's a fact. These types of hacks need to be moved along. The tailenders should all be trained to hit sixes at the death if that's all Asif Ali's there for.

    I'd rather invest in the up and coming youngsters who are showing skill and promise than persisting with a TTF.

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    Tape ball hoicks are not needed in Hard ball cricket unless boundaries are 30meters, Tape ball never makes you a batter and is only good for bowlers.
    Asif Ali has failed countless times and shouldn't be in anyone's mind for our International side

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    What a scam this guy!

    Tell him to chase 10 off 7 balls, and he is happy. Ask him to bat like a man for 50 balls and he wets his pants every single bloody time.
    Last edited by gazza619; 5th March 2023 at 21:37.

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    114 runs in 9 innings so far at PSL 8.

    A luxury that IU feel they can afford.


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    iski practices ko cancel karo bhaiiiii.... seedha match mein utaaro.... allah da waasta ae...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    Ask Asif Ali to chase 60 off 50 balls against a half decent bowling attack, and he will disappoint you 18 times out of 20.
    True. Though he is one of the few batsmen you can play lower down at 6 or 7 and know he will hit with a decent SR. More worth than keeping guys like Iftikhar or Khushdil down the order who struggle to hit at a good SR ball one as well as average. I wouldn’t mind keeping him around at 6/7 until we find people to replace him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    114 runs in 9 innings so far at PSL 8.

    A luxury that IU feel they can afford.
    Well maybe even they have now realised that he's that luxury that they no longer can afford.


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    It is startling how the standards of Pakistan cricket have fallen. Someone like Asif would not last 10 matches in the past teams. Afridi was bashed regularly for throwing away his wicket and he scored more runs and more frequently than this so-called hitter despite playing as an all-rounder.

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    Pakistan captain has been dropped. Better than Babar for some lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    It is startling how the standards of Pakistan cricket have fallen. Someone like Asif would not last 10 matches in the past teams. Afridi was bashed regularly for throwing away his wicket and he scored more runs and more frequently than this so-called hitter despite playing as an all-rounder.
    Absolutely.

    These days a guy scores 10 off 2 balls once in a blue moon and he has seen as a finisher and superstar.


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    This guy shouldn't play for Pakistan again. He shouldn't play in PSL again either. Awful, awful player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_KING View Post
    This guy shouldn't play for Pakistan again. He shouldn't play in PSL again either. Awful, awful player.
    He has no game He cant play any shots on the ground, he cant rotate the strike cant place it in gaps

    Hes the definition of a tape ball player Just hits it up in the air down the fielders throats Awful player

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaz View Post
    He has no game He cant play any shots on the ground, he cant rotate the strike cant place it in gaps

    Hes the definition of a tape ball player Just hits it up in the air down the fielders throats Awful player
    I am amazed that this guy played over 50 international T20s for Pakistan. Pakistan batting standards are an all time low, if this guy played so many times for Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_KING View Post
    I am amazed that this guy played over 50 international T20s for Pakistan. Pakistan batting standards are an all time low, if this guy played so many times for Pakistan.
    It is only now that Pakistan are coming out of a very, very dark time for batting talent in the country.

    Even then we are banking on Saim Ayub and Mohammad Haris to do a job for us when little is known about how they'll fare internationally.

    It's a shame we don't have enough batsmen in the country to let these two play a bit more in domestics before selecting them for the national team. But when your competition includes Asif Ali, naturally we are very desperate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitthestump View Post
    It is only now that Pakistan are coming out of a very, very dark time for batting talent in the country.

    Even then we are banking on Saim Ayub and Mohammad Haris to do a job for us when little is known about how they'll fare internationally.

    It's a shame we don't have enough batsmen in the country to let these two play a bit more in domestics before selecting them for the national team. But when your competition includes Asif Ali, naturally we are very desperate.
    Both Saim Ayub and Mohammad Haris seem like talented batsman. I just hope that they can produce it at international level, otherwise we will back to frauds like Asif, Khsudil, Shan etc.

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    Let him open

    What’s there to lose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Let him open

    What’s there to lose?
    So it seems like you still believe in him.

    Even though we have clearly found a new battery of hitters from the recent PSL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Let him open

    What’s there to lose?
    Yes, open a kebab shop instead of pretending to be a cricketer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Let him open

    What’s there to lose?
    This 1000%. I've been saying this forever, the guy was made to open. 9/10 times he gets out he gets caught in the deep, by opening in the powerplay he can clear the field more effectively with only two outfielders in the powerplay. Also prefers pace on the ball and will be more likely to face pacers when opening.

    I say let him open and give him a free license to play his game. If he gets out early then Babar can come in at 3 and he and Rizwan can do their traditional 7 RPO powerplay

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadharis1 View Post
    This 1000%. I've been saying this forever, the guy was made to open. 9/10 times he gets out he gets caught in the deep, by opening in the powerplay he can clear the field more effectively with only two outfielders in the powerplay. Also prefers pace on the ball and will be more likely to face pacers when opening.

    I say let him open and give him a free license to play his game. If he gets out early then Babar can come in at 3 and he and Rizwan can do their traditional 7 RPO powerplay
    He will probably still put it down the throat of those two outfielders .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadharis1 View Post
    This 1000%. I've been saying this forever, the guy was made to open. 9/10 times he gets out he gets caught in the deep, by opening in the powerplay he can clear the field more effectively with only two outfielders in the powerplay. Also prefers pace on the ball and will be more likely to face pacers when opening.

    I say let him open and give him a free license to play his game. If he gets out early then Babar can come in at 3 and he and Rizwan can do their traditional 7 RPO powerplay
    How would you rate his ability to play the short ball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadharis1 View Post
    This 1000%. I've been saying this forever, the guy was made to open. 9/10 times he gets out he gets caught in the deep, by opening in the powerplay he can clear the field more effectively with only two outfielders in the powerplay. Also prefers pace on the ball and will be more likely to face pacers when opening.

    I say let him open and give him a free license to play his game. If he gets out early then Babar can come in at 3 and he and Rizwan can do their traditional 7 RPO powerplay
    Because batting in the powerplay isn't just "hit it over the infield and InshaAllah". If that is the case just send Shaheen and Rauf to open without wasting a spot of a proper batsman.

    An opener needs to have the ability to actually bat and Asif Ali falls short of that rather important facet of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadharis1 View Post
    This 1000%. I've been saying this forever, the guy was made to open. 9/10 times he gets out he gets caught in the deep, by opening in the powerplay he can clear the field more effectively with only two outfielders in the powerplay. Also prefers pace on the ball and will be more likely to face pacers when opening.

    I say let him open and give him a free license to play his game. If he gets out early then Babar can come in at 3 and he and Rizwan can do their traditional 7 RPO powerplay
    Because batting in the powerplay isn't just "hit it over the infield and InshaAllah". If that is the case just send Shaheen and Rauf to open without wasting a spot of a proper batsman.

    An opener needs to have the ability to actually bat and Asif Ali falls short of that rather important facet of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadharis1 View Post
    This 1000%. I've been saying this forever, the guy was made to open. 9/10 times he gets out he gets caught in the deep, by opening in the powerplay he can clear the field more effectively with only two outfielders in the powerplay. Also prefers pace on the ball and will be more likely to face pacers when opening.

    I say let him open and give him a free license to play his game. If he gets out early then Babar can come in at 3 and he and Rizwan can do their traditional 7 RPO powerplay
    You think he will be able to survive new ball spells against the likes of Starc, Nortje, Hazelwood, Cummins, Rabada, Bumrah (and more)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal Ahmad15 View Post
    You think he will be able to survive new ball spells against the likes of Starc, Nortje, Hazelwood, Cummins, Rabada, Bumrah (and more)?
    No chance And even if he does the spinners will open and get him

    Theres no hiding place in intnl cricket If you arent good enough and are one dimensional you will get found out like asif ali has


    If pakistan cricket is to move forward they need to stop going back

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    Should rename the thread.

    "I try to get out 100 to 150 times in practice so I'm ready”

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojohnson View Post
    He will probably still put it down the throat of those two outfielders .
    Possibly, but I mean the less outfielders there are the less likely he'll get caught out. I'm just going off memory here, obviously I could be wrong, but I don't recall him getting out too often by top edging and skying a catch inside the circle.

    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfPakBreakfast View Post
    How would you rate his ability to play the short ball?
    Pretty poor, but then again who in Pakistan can play the short ball.

    Quote Originally Posted by hitthestump View Post
    Because batting in the powerplay isn't just "hit it over the infield and InshaAllah". If that is the case just send Shaheen and Rauf to open without wasting a spot of a proper batsman.

    An opener needs to have the ability to actually bat and Asif Ali falls short of that rather important facet of the game.
    Very fair points. I'd point to the few examples of pinch hitters opening like Sunil Narine who has some success with the "hit it over the infield and inshallah". Of course, this is just probably the one successful example.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal Ahmad15 View Post
    You think he will be able to survive new ball spells against the likes of Starc, Nortje, Hazelwood, Cummins, Rabada, Bumrah (and more)?
    Not many can, even the greats have struggled against the likes of those and Asif Ali is far from a great.





    I know it's a pretty strange idea but all I'm saying is imagine if Asif Ali (who has shown power hitting skills, albeit inconsistently, far above those found in Pakistan) is sent to open with a "hit from ball one" mindset.

    Either (1) he can smash quick runs, at 180-200+ strike rates, putting Pakistan in a dominant batting position. Or (2), he gets out early, doesn't waste precious deliveries, and lets someone else get a go.

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