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    "If Pakistan want to make world headlines, they have to beat England in this series": Ramiz Raja

    Talking to reporters at the Gaddafi stadium after the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy final on Tuesday:

    "I have given just one message to the players that if they want to make world headlines they have to beat England in the series"

    "When Australia came earlier this year the pitches were freshly laid so they played differently but now they have settled down quite a bit and we are expecting more sporting tracks against England"

    “England and all other teams will enjoy our hospitality. The world will see us hosting big teams"

    “It is heartening to see young players performing. Especially Huraira, the way this youngster has scored runs at the age of 20, is exceptional"

    “Our system needs more homework. We need to make our system strong to produce more and more talented players"

    “These pitches are not under our control that’s why we gave the idea of drop-in pitches"

    “Drop-in pitches idea is not dropped completely. We are doing homework on it. We need to work on pitches as I want every centre to have a different pitch"
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    Even if they lose it will be headlines at least in Pakistan

    Itís not like cnn and bcc will carry front page news if Pakistan beats England in tests.

    Rameez Raja has translated his commentary cliches to press conferences as chairman.

    Anyway all the best to both teams. Want to see some good quality test cricket. Hope the pitches are result oriented.

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    You just hosted a ceremony to celebrate Pakistan losing a World Cup final. I donít think results matter to you, Ramiz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    You just hosted a ceremony to celebrate Pakistan losing a World Cup final. I donít think results matter to you, Ramiz.
    The ceremony was to appreciate the players. Being a mid rank team and achieving runners up in a World Cup is no joke.

    It is not too different to a successful Corporate environment. Employer recognises the employees for their efforts.

    I agree that we need a lot of work in all forms of the game but take the foot off the gas for a bit, will you.

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    England playing with B team without any practice before the game and 14 of the England squad are down with a virus/bug.

    This is the best chance to beat England.

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    Itís all about world headlines

    Doesnít matter how they come and if they really paint the true picture

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    What does he mean that these pitches are not under our control?

    What the hell is the curator doing then ?

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    Rambo is correct. While India might be the financial capital of cricket, England is the spiritual capital.

    A win in England or against England is a big deal since the majority of the established and renown cricketing media is centred there.

    You will see Pakistanis and Indian's obsessively sharing articles from the Telegraph or Mail and videos from Nasser or Atherton but the opposite situation never occurs.

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    only misbah can beat england, without him its hard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    only misbah can beat england, without him its hard
    That was a different England. Only Joe Root holds this batting together and a potential onslaught by Stokes.

    Pakistan can trouble then a lot on slow turning wickets in the SC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    only misbah can beat england, without him its hard
    Younis Khan, Saeed Ajmal, Abdur Rehman and Yasir Shah were instrumental in Pakistan beating England in 2012 and 2015.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    That was a different England. Only Joe Root holds this batting together and a potential onslaught by Stokes.

    Pakistan can trouble then a lot on slow turning wickets in the SC
    misbah played 3 series, stayed un defeated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg111 View Post
    Younis Khan, Saeed Ajmal, Abdur Rehman and Yasir Shah were instrumental in Pakistan beating England in 2012 and 2015.
    captaincy matters.

    Sarfraz lost as soon as he captained the test series in UAE

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    English teams of 2012 and 2015 were vastly superior to the current English team, but Pakistan beat them comprehensively.

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    Ramiz is not being straight with fans. He said DURING the Australia series they deliberately made dull pitches to nullify their quicks. Now he's saying the pitches was flat because they were relaid ?

    According to the broadcasters, they were relaid before the England T20s ? There's always an excuse for why our pitches are terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    only misbah can beat england, without him its hard
    This is nothing but hyperbole.

    When you have an ATG player of spin (YK) along with Saeed Ajmal (with his chucking) and Yasir Shah, you have a formidable combination. It's fair to say most captains would've beaten England with these players.

    Also Misbah's defensive captaincy cost Pakistan the 3rd test at Trent Bridge in 2016. The team had a lead of just over 100 runs. Instead of going for wickets, he set defensive fields and let England score easy runs.

    A better captain would've won Pakistan this test match and the series overall. But this is what sets Imran Khan apart from all the other skippers of the national side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    captaincy matters.

    Sarfraz lost as soon as he captained the test series in UAE
    Primarily because he didn't have Younis Khan who used to carry the side.

    The importance of his batting shouldn't be disregarded as he was an ATG player of spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    captaincy matters.

    Sarfraz lost as soon as he captained the test series in UAE
    Captaincy matters, it is true, but Pakistan losing to Sri Lanka & New Zealand in UAE in 2017 & 2018 had more to do with the loss of Younis & Misbah as batsmen.

    They left a huge hole in the team. Babar was a novice Test batsman at the time & Azhar & Shafiq were badly exposed after getting promoted to senior batsmen status.

    Also, the retirement of Hafeez from Tests did not help. He was a great opener in Asian conditions, averaged 50+ in UAE.

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    Rameez needs to keep his mouth shut, he along with Mo wasim and Babar are prime culprits for pakistans negative cricket mentality in current WTC cycle.

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    Ramiz is on a mission to achieve big, After the agony of Wt20 eyeballs shifted to WTC Oval23, though it might fell flat come 21st Dec


    Quote Originally Posted by Arsal_AK View Post
    If Hafeez can get two hundreds in a game anyone can.

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    Why say this.

    Why put additional pressure on the Pakistani players.

    No need for such statements.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Why say this.

    Why put additional pressure on the Pakistani players.

    No need for such statements.
    Typical comments from Rameez, seems to want to want to be centre of attention before series starts. The sooner him, mo wasim, Saqi and Babar (captaincy) go the better.

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    A lot of homework for Ramiz

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspin View Post
    Primarily because he didn't have Younis Khan who used to carry the side.

    The importance of his batting shouldn't be disregarded as he was an ATG player of spin.
    Exactly - there is no consistency

    You wax lyrical about how great Misbah was, then when heís not part of the team as well as younis, arguably Pakistanís greatest ever batsman, you want to judge the next captain.

    Personally, I thought sarfraz did a sterling job as captain with the resources at his disposal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cover Drive Six View Post
    England playing with B team without any practice before the game and 14 of the England squad are down with a virus/bug.

    This is the best chance to beat England.
    Lol people always finding excuses. B Team? do you want Botham to come and play for them? this is their first choice available squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ali_ed2006 View Post
    Lol people always finding excuses. B Team? do you want Botham to come and play for them? this is their first choice available squad.
    Yeah..
    Ben Duckett
    Harry Brook and
    Liam Livingstone

    are quality test players for England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cover Drive Six View Post
    Yeah..
    Ben Duckett
    Harry Brook and
    Liam Livingstone

    are quality test players for England.
    That's not the point. Point is you saying that this is their B team and indicating that they are purposefully excluding first choice players, which is not the case. This is the first choice team that they have selected. Quality of the players is subjective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cover Drive Six View Post
    Yeah..
    Ben Duckett
    Harry Brook and
    Liam Livingstone

    are quality test players for England.
    None of them average more than 44 in domestic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    None of them average more than 44 in domestic.
    Donít think English averages in those conditions work the same way like in subcontinent. Having said that probably picked them on their ability to play spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ali_ed2006 View Post
    That's not the point. Point is you saying that this is their B team and indicating that they are purposefully excluding first choice players, which is not the case. This is the first choice team that they have selected. Quality of the players is subjective.
    1. I didn't say that they purposely excluded.
    Doesn't matter wheather first choices or second choice team,they are playing with four inexperienced players and T20 hacks.

    2. England playing straight away without any practice/preparations.

    3. Illness rocking around the camp. Most of them are just recovering from virus infection and accepted to play.

    Don't you think it's advantage for Pakistan?

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    Maybe they would have a chance if you didn't personally doctor the pitches...

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    Maybe Pak should have delayed game till tomorrow

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    Well, looks like Pakistan are going to make headlines but not for reasons you are going to like.


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    Losing patience with Ramiz. He is all talk as far as brand of cricket and pitches are concerned.

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    Speaking to TMS

    “You have got to buy into a new template and that’s what I’m stressing on to the Pakistan cricket team and Babar Azam. Look, I will take the hate if you lose a Test series, it doesn’t matter to me but we need to try something different. Unless we become an exciting Test team, people will not rate us, especially playing at home"

    "This is what the new England means. They were looking for action from ball number one. They are setting a new platform, a new tone"

    "I wasn't expecting this as they had four debutants and in any Test match the first half an hour is usually the bowlers, regardless of the pitch. But it was different and breathtaking,"


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Speaking to TMS

    “You have got to buy into a new template and that’s what I’m stressing on to the Pakistan cricket team and Babar Azam. Look, I will take the hate if you lose a Test series, it doesn’t matter to me but we need to try something different. Unless we become an exciting Test team, people will not rate us, especially playing at home"

    "This is what the new England means. They were looking for action from ball number one. They are setting a new platform, a new tone"

    "I wasn't expecting this as they had four debutants and in any Test match the first half an hour is usually the bowlers, regardless of the pitch. But it was different and breathtaking,"
    Heís basically trying to say Babar Azam is struggling to understand the message they have relayed to him.

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    Pakistan qualifying chances are slim for the WTC if they continue to play home series on flat tracks.
    Draw matches gives only peanuts.

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    Headlines for dead pitches.

    First against Aus and now against Eng.


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    The day 1 of the test match has defo made world headlinesÖ

    Well done Ramiz.

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    The only winners in these kind of pitches are the stat padders. Average batsmen will look like ATG's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Speaking to TMS

    “You have got to buy into a new template and that’s what I’m stressing on to the Pakistan cricket team and Babar Azam. Look, I will take the hate if you lose a Test series, it doesn’t matter to me but we need to try something different. Unless we become an exciting Test team, people will not rate us, especially playing at home"

    "This is what the new England means. They were looking for action from ball number one. They are setting a new platform, a new tone"

    "I wasn't expecting this as they had four debutants and in any Test match the first half an hour is usually the bowlers, regardless of the pitch. But it was different and breathtaking,"
    So it begins everyone will start blaming someone else for current problems.

    The fact the Rameez, saqi, mo wasim and Babar are all clueless is just making pakistani cricket boring and and uninspiring watch.

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    Not gonna defeat England on such dead tracks. To win the series we need to out play England on conditions that equally favour England's better batsmen and pace bowlers. We know longer have any leggie that will frighten the pants out of England. No Mushy, Ajmal or Saqi to terrorize the English batters anymore.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwoodOriginal View Post
    Maybe they would have a chance if you didn't personally doctor the pitches...
    Two very good wickets in Multan & Karachi & England won both matches. Brilliant analysis as usual.

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    Weíve made headlines as Ramiz wanted

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    Waqar Younis

    “If you go back a year and a half, we played against South Africa and Sri Lanka here, where all these young fast-bowlers emerged, and the pitches were good. They had good bounce and the spinners also came into play later"

    “I thought over here we prepared pitches while being worried about losing. When you are worried about losing, you are going to lose most of the time and that’s what happened"

    “Pakistan have got to think hard about what they want to do with these pitches because they discourage fast bowlers.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Waqar Younis

    “If you go back a year and a half, we played against South Africa and Sri Lanka here, where all these young fast-bowlers emerged, and the pitches were good. They had good bounce and the spinners also came into play later"

    “I thought over here we prepared pitches while being worried about losing. When you are worried about losing, you are going to lose most of the time and that’s what happened"

    “Pakistan have got to think hard about what they want to do with these pitches because they discourage fast bowlers.”
    Not sure what Waqar is talking about, English pacers had the same wickets and conditions to deal with and they still delivered results and were miles ahead of the Pakistani bowlers in terms of reverse swing, bouncers, tactics. If anything, it is Shaun Tait who deserves to be fired and the captain for selecting such a poor bowling line up and once selecting a player, not backing him properly ie Faheem Ashraf.

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    Headlines, but for getting whitewashed at home.


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    Ramizs position is untenable now

    - Sticking stubbornly to the incompetent Babar Azam as captain

    - Deciding to stick to Saqlain Mushtaq as head coach

    - Deterioration of pitches under him negating any home advantage Pakistan had

    - No change in the DNA and brand of Cricket Pakistan is playing

    - He has not changed or implemented any of the sensational opinions he used to express on his YouTube channel

    - Mismanagement at the PCB ie abandoning the 5 year plan launched by Mani, Wasim Khan in 2020, sacking people at the NHPC without replacements, no replacement for Saqlain and Yousaf at the NHPC, dictatorship at the PCB with a my way or highway attitude

    - Not having the cajones to face the press when the going gets tough and to answer the tough questions

    No tears shed when he is replaced by Najam Sethi

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    Pakistan does not have to beat England to make headlines. It is not a minnow team.
    Don't forget what Rambo has transformed this Pakistan cricket team into. This Pakistan cricket team is not just a cricket team anymore. It is a BRAND.

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    Next headline needs to be "loud mouth rameez sacked by PCB"

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    The team tried its best but England cheated by playing Tests like limited over internationals. Ramiz should protest against this with the ICC.
    But for now, a Presidential Dinner with the new COAS is the order of the day (errrr night)- celebrate the team who did its best, after all you canít abandon them when they most need your support. It indeed is encouraging that the team stood up to England who did not respect how Test cricket must be played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Two very good wickets in Multan & Karachi & England won both matches. Brilliant analysis as usual.
    Still better than "India has the best T20 bowling attack in world" before 168-0

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