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    "Government removed a Test cricketer from PCB chairmanship to accommodate Najam Sethi": Ramiz Raja

    Ramiz Raja speaking on his YT Channel

    "The government of Pakistan removed a Test cricketer from chairmanship of PCB just to accommodate Najam Sethi. This is highly disrespectful way of treating your cricketers"

    "The government of Pakistan changed the whole constitution of PCB just to accommodate Najam Sethi. I have never seen this ever in my life"

    “The way India announced that they won’t play Asia Cup in Pakistan wasn’t right. They issued the statement without consulting Asian Cricket Council members. India should not have tried to boss Pakistan or any other country like this”

    "Najam Sethi doesn't know how many months he has to stay in PCB. He has no interest in Pakistan Cricket. He only wants authority in PCB."

    "Najam Sethi attacked on PCB headquarter in such a manner that I was unable to take my baggage from my office. They attacked PCB like an FIA raid."

    "I believe in authoritative captain but Babar Azam has to bring improvement in his captaincy"

    "The new hierarchy in PCB will put pressure on Babar Azam because the captain now has to work with a new management of PCB during ongoing season"
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    Shots fired...


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    If Najam aka Chirya is a good administrator post him as Hockey Federation Chairman, He will be exposed.

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    Haha ramiz 🤣🤣🤣

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    This reads like the diatribe of a petulant child who just had his toys taken away.

    I'm no fan of Sethi and his lack of understanding about cricket is already becoming apparent with the appointment of Afridi as CS, but I tip my hat to him for sending PRaja packing via a tweet at 2am. That is exactly what this clown deserved. And I am glad to see that it had the desired effect on old Rambo too.

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    to get views he even mentions india.

    Anyways, didnt rameez raja get elected through a loophole aswell? He became a BOG member over night, conducted a sham voting process where the last govt made sure he won and no one voted against him and was made chairman.

    Dont cry foul, both ised different means.

    Anyways, the senate needs to fix the pcb constitution. Even the 2014 is flawdd. The chairman needs to be a bog for a minimum number of years before he get the pcb job. This should be the rule

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwoodOriginal View Post
    This reads like the diatribe of a petulant child who just had his toys taken away.

    I'm no fan of Sethi and his lack of understanding about cricket is already becoming apparent with the appointment of Afridi as CS, but I tip my hat to him for sending PRaja packing via a tweet at 2am. That is exactly what this clown deserved. And I am glad to see that it had the intended effect on old Rambo too.
    Najem sethi admits that he doesnt know crickrt and wont comment on it ever.

    However pcb job is an administrator job and cricketers cant do administration especially without any formal education.

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    I am no fan of Ramiz and the bit about disrespect is laughable but the GOP did actually suspend the PCB constitution. The way they are doing with the whole country , why should PCB be spared.


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    Sethi was jailed by the Sharifs for corruption and today he is given a post as the PCB chairman. The budha is a proper yes man and corrupt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Sethi was jailed by the Sharifs for corruption and today he is given a post as the PCB chairman. The budha is a proper yes man and corrupt
    Not only jailed but tortured

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    Najem sethi admits that he doesnt know crickrt and wont comment on it ever.

    However pcb job is an administrator job and cricketers cant do administration especially without any formal education.
    I think it cuts both ways. Cricketers can be great administrators as well. Depends on who the person is. For instance, Rob Key seems to be doing a very good job with England currently.

    But I do agree that administrators should have kind of proper educational background.

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    Being a former Test cricketer doesn't mean everyone should bow down to you. No wonder Ramiz failed as Chairman with such an arrogant and narcissistic mindset.

    That's not defending the way Sethi, or for that matter any PCB Chairman, is appointed. It's farcical how the only qualification someone needs is a relationship with the Prime Minister, and how the ICC turns a blind eye to this overt political interference.

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    I knew he wouldn't keep quiet for long!

    Expect more such statements in the coming weeks and months.


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    Ramiz Raja had his chances but he screwed up Pakistani team. Not selecting your #1 T20 batsman Sharjeel for T20 WC and instead continue with 2 accumulators as openers was worst decision ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    Ramiz Raja had his chances but he screwed up Pakistani team. Not selecting your #1 T20 batsman Sharjeel for T20 WC and instead continue with 2 accumulators as openers was worst decision ever
    No doubting this

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    Ramťez raja did well with the pool of talent that was available. I would have liked him to stay longer.

    Pakistan is the only country where we bring back the tried and tested. Najam Sethi was there before, his appointment is not on merit but as a favour from to their friend from a corrupt regime.

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    what would that leg side players would have do, World Cup was won by proper middle order batters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    I knew he wouldn't keep quiet for long!

    Expect more such statements in the coming weeks and months.
    Question is will Sethi respond?


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    Being a test cricketer as PCB Chairman means squat. It is not a requirement, it's ultimately an administrative position and in the end its all about performance. 4 consecutive defeats at home with 2 major series defeats against two of the best teams in the world is unacceptable.

    Also his decision to blindly give so much powers to Babar Azam and to appoint a useless so called coach like Saqlain were incompetent disastrous decisions.

    Also he more or less abandoned the professional pathway adopted by Ehsan Mani, Wasim Khan, no steps were taken to continue the 5 year strategic plan announced by the PCB in 2020.

    People were let go at the NHPC for no reason, no replacements had been announced for Yousaf and Saqlain at the NHPC. The pitches had deteriorated badly under him.

    He was leading the PCB as a one man dictator, my way or the highway, you don't like it, get lost. He publically supported the Western position on Peshawar and Quetta upsetting the PSL owners.

    Ultimately I was not really happy with Ramizs tenure. He did not deliver much as expected.

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    Where is the video? Gone on YT and Rameez Speaks channel but no video has been uploaded since 9 months ago...

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    Ramiz knows that the chairman of the PCB changes with every new government, and the fact that Ramiz was not immediately sacked after the change of government this time is a miracle in itself. Ramiz had therefore been living on borrowed time and when the team lost 3-0 in a home test series, heads were always going to roll. That would have been the case even if there had been no change of government.

    Ramiz should be thankful that his sacking followed an actual poor result - most previous PCB chairmen have not had that luxury.

    Silly comments about being disrespectful to ex-cricketers by sacking them, even when those ex-cricketers don’t perform in the roles they have been given, are best avoided.
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    Just digging more of a grave for himself

    Why would anyone want this guy back even if Imran Khan comes back into power?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeVerMind View Post
    Where is the video? Gone on YT and Rameez Speaks channel but no video has been uploaded since 9 months ago...
    Its under Live.


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    Only in the subcontinent would key positions in sporting governing bodies be decided by politicians.
    Rather explains why the governance is so appalling.
    No doubt Sethi will be gone in a year and the circus will continue.

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    More quotes from Ramiz added to Post#1


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    Najam Sethi is the lap dog of PmLn

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Its under Live.
    could you guys confirm if Javed Afridi had a hand in this? He did a protest against raja after the chairman said that venues of quetta and peshawwar were not possible.

    whats even more odd is that the first thing najem sethi talked about was giving psl venues to quetta and peshawar. He didnt eveen wait a few weeks to say this.

    Im pretty sure Javed Afridi used some strings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    could you guys confirm if Javed Afridi had a hand in this? He did a protest against raja after the chairman said that venues of quetta and peshawwar were not possible.

    whats even more odd is that the first thing najem sethi talked about was giving psl venues to quetta and peshawar. He didnt eveen wait a few weeks to say this.

    Im pretty sure Javed Afridi used some strings
    Javed Afridi had a big role in lobbying for Ramiz removal. You should check his tweet on the day Ramiz was removed

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    You were a political appointee as well

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    Good leadership is about consulting stakeholders and taking them on board with you.

    Ramiz sadly was an arrogant stubborn dictator and his my way or the highway approach was going to backfire at some stage.

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    RR is right. This is an undemocratic move but this is normal in a Banana Republic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakpak View Post
    Not only jailed but tortured
    The budha is a total beghairat and will do anything for money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shah_1 View Post
    You were a political appointee as well
    But qualified- an ex PK captain,WC winner and an MBA. Name a PK administrator bar Majid and Javed Burki that has that has resumŤ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    could you guys confirm if Javed Afridi had a hand in this? He did a protest against raja after the chairman said that venues of quetta and peshawwar were not possible.

    whats even more odd is that the first thing najem sethi talked about was giving psl venues to quetta and peshawar. He didnt eveen wait a few weeks to say this.

    Im pretty sure Javed Afridi used some strings
    BTW we should be careful holding matches in Quetta and KP situations arent good, one bad event will take us back to 2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Good leadership is about consulting stakeholders and taking them on board with you.

    Ramiz sadly was an arrogant stubborn dictator and his my way or the highway approach was going to backfire at some stage.
    Who should he have consulted. The guys you think want consultation just want jobs. What Will they bring to the table that we haven't seen.

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    Keep this guy out.

    He's all talk - and just immature when he does speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shah_1 View Post
    You were a political appointee as well
    They all are aren't they.

    That's why PCB has to be independent of the government.

    Whether that day will ever come is questionable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    But qualified- an ex PK captain,WC winner and an MBA. Name a PK administrator bar Majid and Javed Burki that has that has resumŤ
    what administrator post did he held? He said this team didnt need a coach. He wasted pcb money on a pjl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    what administrator post did he held? He said this team didnt need a coach. He wasted pcb money on a pjl
    'Wasting' PCB money on PJL.....is much better than blowing millions by suing BCCI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    what administrator post did he held? He said this team didnt need a coach. He wasted pcb money on a pjl
    But the likes of you didn't like Wasim Khan, and he held very high posts but you guys said he was rubbish. RR was good chairman, a guy that didn't hold grudges( MY appointment), a guy that gave people responsibility to the chief selector and captain. The PJL was an experiment worth trying and its interesting that Arafat Minhas has already had an impact. RRs fatal sin not insisting on sporting wickets and that after all the talk was unforgivable
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    Good leadership is about consulting stakeholders and taking them on board with you.

    Ramiz sadly was an arrogant stubborn dictator and his my way or the highway approach was going to backfire at some stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    But the likes of you didn't like Wasim Khan, and he held very high posts but you guys said he was rubbish. RR was good chairman, a guy that didn't hold grudges( MY appointment), a guy that gave people responsibility to the chief selector and captain. The PJL was an experiment worth trying and its interesting that Arafat Minhas has already had an impact. RRs fatal sin not insisting on sporting wickets and that after all the talk was unforgivable
    Wasim Khan acted as a fool. He was no consistent with his decisions and was not even running the show. The decision to fire arthur, the decision to hire Misbah, the decision to reduce teams to just 6 even though we have a large population was coming from somewhere else. The decision to make Babar Azam captain aswell. Waseem Khan was only a puppet who did nothing and for all the above dumb decisions made, he deserves to be blamed and be bestowed with its responsibility.

    Rameez Raja was not a good chairman. The first thing he does is he asked the coach to go home get your pay cheque but dont show up at the dressing room even though contract wise you are our coach. Who does this?

    Than the chairman decides he will change pitches, pitches that were giving result in domestic were made as flat phattas and resulted in Pakistan getting kicked out of the world test championship. After that the chairman saab is calling up babar and telling him who to use and thna taking claim of the wickets the next day. Than chairman saab ends up dictating to the selector that no matter what you will select Mohammad Harris only because he liked him in the PSL.
    Than Chairman saab decided to waste money on PJYL. Interestingly, no one showed interest to buy a franchise because even I know this that investors dont care about the cricket but mroe about the marketing aspect and the fact that they can build a brand with a team and its player. The fact that u19 franchise means that after eery year, the team would be revamped everytime and no brand would be able to be made, which is why it was gonna fail

    And it the end it failed

    Than, chairman saab was gonna bring in drop in pitches. He was gonna bring an expensive crane into the stadium, waste pcbs money on it only to life a pitch from outside of the pavilion and drop it in the middle. When infact, there is no need to do this as we have a dedicated cricket ground, hence you can easily grow and prepare the pitch that is in the middle.

    But the thing is we are lakeer kay fakir. Because Australia uses a crane to drop a pitch in the middle, maybe if we do that our team will become like Australia.
    Had Rameez used logic, he would had known that Australia drops in pitches because stadiums in australia are used for all purposes, which is why a pitch has to be grown adn taken care of else where.

    The only good decision that Ramez Raja took was keeping fixers and unfit players out of the team. Thats it.

    Stop looking everything from the lenses of political party and its support. If Najem sethi decides to bring in Mickey Arthur back, it would be a terrible decision. However, I do agree with him that we need to have a proper coach who is foreign as these players only listen to them

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    This is same Sethi that lost the PCB millions in trying to sue the BCCI over a weak case. This shows the low intelligence of this man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    what administrator post did he held? He said this team didnt need a coach. He wasted pcb money on a pjl
    Najam Sethi blew millions on Ďfightingí the BCCI. Not a fan of Rameez as such, but the gentleman replacing him is not deserving at all.

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    Pop corn time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cricket-lion View Post
    This is same Sethi that lost the PCB millions in trying to sue the BCCI over a weak case. This shows the low intelligence of this man.
    He claimed that the PCB lawyers misled them on their chances in that case

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    @Major
    What's better the PJL that has thrown up some decent talent- Arafat Minhas has started to make a mark already or wasting millions on lawyers, from which he probably got a cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    Najam Sethi blew millions on Ďfightingí the BCCI. Not a fan of Rameez as such, but the gentleman replacing him is not deserving at all.
    Using money for legal purposes is not blowing away money. Pcb was well in its right to take legal action

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    @Major
    What's better the PJL that has thrown up some decent talent- Arafat Minhas has started to make a mark already or wasting millions on lawyers, from which he probably got a cut.
    If you wanted a young players t20 tournament than it could had been held like they usuaully do for their respective regions. But no pcb wasted money thinking it would be a success like psl
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    Lets be honest about this.

    If it was the other way around, would Ramiz be complaining or saying that it was wrong to take such actions.

    They all are in it for themselves!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    You dont even understand the point.

    If you wanted a young players t20 tournament than it could had been held like they usuaully do for their respective regions. But no pcb wasted money thinking it would be a success like psl
    What you don't understand is business. The Faisal Bank T20 has 90% of the players that are the same as the PSL, which ones do people watch. Branding is important and non business people don't understand. Sometimes it does work but I rather waste it on trying to give the talent a platform rather than the Sharifs crooks wasting it on lawyers and knowing they see opportunities in everything, he probably got a cut. Those flats in New York don't buy themselves and certainly not a journalists salary

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    So in his own words, Ramizís only qualification to become PCBís chief was that he is a Test cricketer.

    What was wrong with Ijaz Butt then?

    Can we make Imran Farhat the next PCB chief after Sethi?

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    Adding some more Ramiz Raja quotes:

    “You bid farewell to people with respect. He (Sethi) was tweeting at 2:15am that Ramiz Raja is out and people should congratulate him.”

    “So you are hurt because it seems as if a messiah has come who will take cricket to great heights, although, we know that their motives are different"

    “This notion is not even present that they’ve come for the development and advancement of cricket. They’ve come for lordship and they enjoy getting the limelight somehow.

    “Nothing to do with cricket and they’ve never picked up a bat and then they’re appointed as the chairman,”

    “Our cricket will be destroyed this way because when there is no continuity and people are brought in like this through backdoor [means] then what will be your level?”

    “Only in Pakistan, this can happen that you change the constitution to adjust a person or to bring in his thugs.”


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    I wasn't a fan of Ramiz but he was very ambitious and had experience.

    Aside from Waseem Khan, the PCB has really lacked influence, professionalism and vision on the International stage.

    This Najam sethi appointment is farcical to say the least. I've seen nothing food said about him except the PMLN Brown-Nosers working through some serious mental gymnastics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    If you wanted a young players t20 tournament than it could had been held like they usuaully do for their respective regions. But no pcb wasted money thinking it would be a success like psl
    It's called an investment in growth.... and I thought it was a very innovative idea.

    It's not always about financial benefits

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorblind Genius View Post
    So in his own words, Ramizís only qualification to become PCBís chief was that he is a Test cricketer.

    What was wrong with Ijaz Butt then?

    Can we make Imran Farhat the next PCB chief after Sethi?
    Faisal Iqbal is a very strong candidate

    He has legendary blood in his veins too

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    Nobody cares. Even your credentials as an ex player won’t save you. Releasing dumb statement after dumb statement and this is what you come up with after finally getting sacked? The new government even gave you a chance rather than remove you outright but you decided to take no action after we got whitewashed at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    He claimed that the PCB lawyers misled them on their chances in that case
    Is he thick to be misled? He had nothing on paper and lost the PCB millions. Absolutely incompetent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    Using money for legal purposes is not blowing away money. Pcb was well in its right to take legal action
    Well, the decision says otherwise. It was an extremely weak case. One that a competent person wouldn't even mention, let alone go the legal route. Absolute incompetence and humiliation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cricket-lion View Post
    Is he thick to be misled? He had nothing on paper and lost the PCB millions. Absolutely incompetent.
    Let me state that even a lay man is aware that a MOU is not legally binding. However, he wasn't aware 🤔 😅 An MOU is not a contract but just an understanding.

    Now we have Afridi as chief of selector and Sethi as chairman..this is absolute madness in my opinion. God help Pakistan.

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    Its a political circus , people who ran away to London after court's guilty verdict against them was announced are back and in power now , Sethi enjoying the same circus. RR is just an educated ex-captain and not corrupt enough to fit in , hence discarded . Under the circumstances, wasn't doing a bad job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Just digging more of a grave for himself

    Why would anyone want this guy back even if Imran Khan comes back into power?
    I mean, you can phrase it however way you likeÖ but Ramiz definitely got more support within Pak public than Najam Sethi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suleiman View Post
    Nobody cares. Even your credentials as an ex player won’t save you. Releasing dumb statement after dumb statement and this is what you come up with after finally getting sacked? The new government even gave you a chance rather than remove you outright but you decided to take no action after we got whitewashed at home.
    They didnít give him a chance. They were waiting for the team to lose a few games. Ramiz had a lot of goodwill behind him in the recent past with solid team performances and revival of big teams touring Pak. You are quite naive. This govt is made up of **** - giving someone a chance is way above them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    Using money for legal purposes is not blowing away money. Pcb was well in its right to take legal action
    Yaar blast RR for all anyone cares, but donít insult your own intelligence with these kind of tweets. PCB had no case. NS knew that. Yet he decided to go ahead with it because he knew he was on his way out. Itís exactly blowing away money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Good leadership is about consulting stakeholders and taking them on board with you.

    Ramiz sadly was an arrogant stubborn dictator and his my way or the highway approach was going to backfire at some stage.
    So you think the PMLN Alex govt decided to remove RR because of his approach? Because that is what this govt based their decisions on?
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    Rambo just wanted the limelight. If he had actually approached it as an ex-cricketer that understood cricket, he could have done a lot better. He spent more time trying to construct some stupid brand out of babar and rizwan on social media by preparing flat pitches and then posting babar and Rizwanís stats.

    Then heíd come on and make silly statements.

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    The way Ramiz interacted with the fans in the video, he was so humble. But during his tenure as the chairman, he was so arrogant whenever he interacted with the journalists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake View Post
    Yaar blast RR for all anyone cares, but don’t insult your own intelligence with these kind of tweets. PCB had no case. NS knew that. Yet he decided to go ahead with it because he knew he was on his way out. It’s exactly blowing away money
    Quote Originally Posted by Cricket-lion View Post
    Well, the decision says otherwise. It was an extremely weak case. One that a competent person wouldn't even mention, let alone go the legal route. Absolute incompetence and humiliation.
    Wats the point of having a legal team? Pcb was well within its rights to take the matter to court.

    Also, let me remind you in every govt organization seperate budget is provided to the legal section.

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    Here comes the latest infighting. Ramiz was partly responsible for the humiliation England handed too us. Najam Sethi will do what the BCCI and ICC want him coz he's a "yes" man. I feel it was Ramiz's stance of not playing the Asia Cup outside Pak that got him the sack.


    PP's own self proclaimed sharpshooter and defender of Islam and Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    Its a political circus , people who ran away to London after court's guilty verdict against them was announced are back and in power now , Sethi enjoying the same circus. RR is just an educated ex-captain and not corrupt enough to fit in , hence discarded . Under the circumstances, wasn't doing a bad job.
    IMO, the Shareefs play in the hands of RAW and Indian govt.
    Modiís unannounced visit to Pakistan was one of the biggest indicator.
    And then quite a few of Indian engineers quietly working in factories owned by Shareefs was another one.

    IMO. Rameez bit more than he could chew when start jumping up n down to boycott WC if India doesnít visit Pakistan for Asia cup or if the Asia cup was moved out of Pakistan cuz India wouldnít visit.

    The Shareefs got the order from their masters and Ramiz was shown the door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    Wats the point of having a legal team? Pcb was well within its rights to take the matter to court.

    Also, let me remind you in every govt organization seperate budget is provided to the legal section.
    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    Wats the point of having a legal team? Pcb was well within its rights to take the matter to court.

    Also, let me remind you in every govt organization seperate budget is provided to the legal section.
    The point of having a legal team is for them to provide legal guidance and counsel. Its entirely possible that the legal team recommended not taking any action but Sethi decided to do so anyways as it was his decision at the end of the day. If they recommended going the route of taking action then they are equally as incompetent.

    The last comment on every government having a separate budget for legal; just because you have a budget doesnít mean you need to spend it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by offstump View Post
    The point of having a legal team is for them to provide legal guidance and counsel. Its entirely possible that the legal team recommended not taking any action but Sethi decided to do so anyways as it was his decision at the end of the day. If they recommended going the route of taking action then they are equally as incompetent.

    The last comment on every government having a separate budget for legal; just because you have a budget doesn’t mean you need to spend it!
    and what if the legal team guided Sethi that they should take legal action? Sethi will act according to what his legal counsel will guide him.

    There is a budget that is allocated, and yes having a budget means it will be spent. In Pakistani govt offices if an allocated budget is not spent, than from corrupt practice's that money can end up elsewhere.

    A legal case can go either way, I dont know why people are acting as Rameez fans and sethi fans here. I dont care about Sethi at all. But its funny seeing some posters here that instead of bashing Rameez Raja for wasting money on a league that everyone knew was gonna fail, and saying that the legal team wasted money only because the case didnt go in our favor.

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    Would Ramiz had said same thing if he was
    appointed in commentary panel for current series against Nz .Seems he is more upset on not getting commentary gig

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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    Ramiz Raja had his chances but he screwed up Pakistani team. Not selecting your #1 T20 batsman Sharjeel for T20 WC and instead continue with 2 accumulators as openers was worst decision ever
    Which ranking you are referring to here ?

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    "Government removed a Test cricketer from PCB chairmanship to accommodate Najam Sethi": Ramiz Raja

    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    and what if the legal team guided Sethi that they should take legal action? Sethi will act according to what his legal counsel will guide him.

    There is a budget that is allocated, and yes having a budget means it will be spent. In Pakistani govt offices if an allocated budget is not spent, than from corrupt practice's that money can end up elsewhere.

    A legal case can go either way, I dont know why people are acting as Rameez fans and sethi fans here. I dont care about Sethi at all. But its funny seeing some posters here that instead of bashing Rameez Raja for wasting money on a league that everyone knew was gonna fail, and saying that the legal team wasted money only because the case didnt go in our favor.
    As I stated, if thatís what they recommended then they are equally as incompetent. I havenít mentioned anything about being a Rameez fan, Iím simply chiming in that there really was no legal case or precedent to seek compensation because the other party didnít honour a memorandum of understanding. If they decided to go through with the case just to burn the legal budget thatís even stupider. The budget could have been spent on something better like say hiring more competent lawyers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abstraction1 View Post
    It's called an investment in growth.... and I thought it was a very innovative idea.

    It's not always about financial benefits
    no its not called an investment in growth.

    PCB did a marketing campaign where they asked investors to lets make a franchise model just like PSL. You buy the team. PCB conducted marketing and wasted al lot of money on this. Owners of KPL were asked to invest.

    Everyone knew this was gonna fail as franchise u19 cricket is the dumbest thing ever. You need to understand how franchise cricket works, investors are in it to get a return through brandinging and marketing not through some team winning a tournament. U19 issue is you can only have a player for 1 season thats it.

    That failed and PCB decided to launch its own franchise where they owned the team, and it failed miserably.

    They could had just hosted a simple small scale t20 tournament for the regions like they already do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cricket-lion View Post
    Well, the decision says otherwise. It was an extremely weak case. One that a competent person wouldn't even mention, let alone go the legal route. Absolute incompetence and humiliation.
    how was that humiliation? are you a legal expert?

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    Quote Originally Posted by offstump View Post
    The point of having a legal team is for them to provide legal guidance and counsel. Its entirely possible that the legal team recommended not taking any action but Sethi decided to do so anyways as it was his decision at the end of the day. If they recommended going the route of taking action then they are equally as incompetent.

    The last comment on every government having a separate budget for legal; just because you have a budget doesnít mean you need to spend it!
    You don't have a argument, This is something you are assuming and then presenting it as a fact

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    This is just my personal view, but Im not sure that Ramiz can have too many complaints about being removed from his position after Pakistanís recent results in Test cricket.

    8 Tests played in Asian conditions and only 1 win, could only draw the series in Sri Lanka who are 7th in the rankings, lost consecutive home series to Australia and England, got whitewashed at home by England including a fairly spineless surrender of the final Test with Englandís ATG seamer rested and a debutant Leicestershire legspinner taking 7 wickets. First Pakistan team to get whitewashed in Pakistan, first Pakistan team to lose four consecutive home Tests.

    Most cricket boards would (and do) make wholesale changes after such a poor run of results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    This is just my personal view, but Im not sure that Ramiz can have too many complaints about being removed from his position after Pakistanís recent results in Test cricket.

    8 Tests played in Asian conditions and only 1 win, could only draw the series in Sri Lanka who are 7th in the rankings, lost consecutive home series to Australia and England, got whitewashed at home by England including a fairly spineless surrender of the final Test with Englandís ATG seamer rested and a debutant Leicestershire legspinner taking 7 wickets. First Pakistan team to get whitewashed in Pakistan, first Pakistan team to lose four consecutive home Tests.

    Most cricket boards would (and do) make wholesale changes after such a poor run of results.
    Heís going to Oxford union to raise his voice on the issue. Hopefully he is pressed by the attendees for his lies and hypocrisy

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