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  • No, should play in India like all other teams

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    Should Pakistan play all of its 2023 World Cup matches outside of India?

    Apparently, the PCB and BCCI are discussing the possibility that all of India's Asia cup matches will be played at a neutral venue, outside of Pakistan.

    A reasonable compromise for both sides but also advantageous for India since they won't have to keep moving to different venues.

    Should Pakistan push for the same treatment during the World Cup? Playing all of our matches in Dubai or Sharjah, where we know the conditions better than most other teams could be the tactical edge that our players need to win the World Cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Apparently, the PCB and BCCI are discussing the possibility that all of India's Asia cup matches will be played at a neutral venue, outside of Pakistan.

    A reasonable compromise for both sides but also advantageous for India since they won't have to keep moving to different venues.

    Should Pakistan push for the same treatment during the World Cup? Playing all of our matches in Dubai or Sharjah, where we know the conditions better than most other teams could be the tactical edge that our players need to win the World Cup.
    Including the Finals, if we made it to?

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    Might as well play all of it outside if thatís the case

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    Pakistan should not travel to India , our players safety comes first, its the right thing to do, to have Pakistan play their world cup matches at another venue

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    This is an odd precedence. Surely ICC cannot allow this unless it's for safety reasons. And even in that case, maybe play the games in empty stadiums (like they do in football once in a while)?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Apparently, the PCB and BCCI are discussing the possibility that all of India's Asia cup matches will be played at a neutral venue, outside of Pakistan.

    A reasonable compromise for both sides but also advantageous for India since they won't have to keep moving to different venues.

    Should Pakistan push for the same treatment during the World Cup? Playing all of our matches in Dubai or Sharjah, where we know the conditions better than most other teams could be the tactical edge that our players need to win the World Cup.
    I agree. Pakistan should be given the right to play group stages in UAE. The tactical advantages are so great than when they played top 6 sides in the UAE since moving there in 2009 , they have a record of 11 wins and 35 losses

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    I agree. Pakistan should be given the right to play group stages in UAE. The tactical advantages are so great than when they played top 6 sides in the UAE since moving there in 2009 , they have a record of 11 wins and 35 losses
    They can lose every match in UAE if Paks world cup matches are shifted their we dont care, we want our players to be safe. I will take our players safety first any day.

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    Yeah, that would be the best thing to do.

    If it isn't allowed, then forfeit the game vs ind and carry on with the tournament as normal.

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    Our players will be safe. There is no way the Indian government will allow anything to happen to our players as that would be a PR disaster for India.

    Just play the matches in India and play with a wonderful spirit. No need to just respond in kind to everything. Even take it as a moral high ground, whatever, just play the games.
    Last edited by Babeikh; 24th March 2023 at 13:36.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babeikh View Post
    Our players will be safe. There is no way the Indian government will allow anything to happen to our players as that would be a PR disaster for India.

    Just play the matches in India and play with a wonderful spirit. No need to just respond in kind to everything. Even take it as a moral high ground, whatever, just play the games.
    Sensible comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barragan View Post
    Yeah, that would be the best thing to do.

    If it isn't allowed, then forfeit the game vs ind and carry on with the tournament as normal.
    And why wouldnít India forfeit the game against Pakistan? You know, your seema pe jawano ka khoon, and Pulwama - all of a sudden, what happens to those wounds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorblind Genius View Post
    And why wouldnít India forfeit the game against Pakistan? You know, your seema pe jawano ka khoon, and Pulwama - all of a sudden, what happens to those wounds?
    If that is the case why do Indians play us in ICC events? Do the lives and wounds not matter then? Or is it points over the lives of Jawaans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babeikh View Post
    Our players will be safe. There is no way the Indian government will allow anything to happen to our players as that would be a PR disaster for India.

    Just play the matches in India and play with a wonderful spirit. No need to just respond in kind to everything. Even take it as a moral high ground, whatever, just play the games.
    This would be my view provided that we are satisfied with the security provided to us in India.

    It also sets a clear precedence for any future tangles on this matter. We are willing to play - they are not.

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    Pakistan should not travel to India.


    As general said, this does happen so people have to play the game : Siddique Salik

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoshiarpurexpress View Post
    Pakistan should not travel to India.
    Why do you say that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Why do you say that?
    I feel it is not safe for them given the current anger in the India against Pakistan. It will be difficult to control the emotions.


    As general said, this does happen so people have to play the game : Siddique Salik

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoshiarpurexpress View Post
    I feel it is not safe for them given the current anger in the India against Pakistan. It will be difficult to control the emotions.
    Anger at what? 152-0?

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    If India is not wanting to travel to Pakistan for Asia Cup and they are opting to play in a neutral venue (which is the current situation)

    Then Pakistan needs to stand their ground and also decide that they will not travel to India for the 2023 Cricket World Cup, and instead opt to play their matches in a neutral venue. If ICC or BCCI or whatever wont accept this, then Pakistan should pull out of the 2023 World Cup.

    I should note that Asia Cup is such a useless and irrelevant tournament, but if India is going to keep making these decisions to not play Pakistan in ODI, Test, T20 series, and not tour Pakistan for Asia Cup, Then Pakistan cant just keep accepting this and tour India, as Pakistan is in the right.

    And yes I accept that Financially, BCCI will not be financially affected by this, (but ICC may be), but all I want is for Pakistan to stand up if India wont be touring Pakistan for Asia Cup.

    There may not be a financial impact, but it will put a sting to the tournament firstly, and more importantly it will be known that Pakistan is not going to played around.

    They already just had Australia who only just recently toured for the first time in 24 Years, while New Zealand pulled out of a tour due to a fake Social Media Message (However Pakistan has done well to solve this issue).

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoshiarpurexpress View Post
    I feel it is not safe for them given the current anger in the India against Pakistan. It will be difficult to control the emotions.
    What anger is there for Pakistan when you have record audiences watching Indo-Pak games in Australia and on TV?


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    I don't mind the proposal given that we are not willing to play in Pakistan. But just like India will have to bear it's own costs in the Asia Cup, Pakistan need to bear their own costs in the World Cup.

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    Pakistan should not be compelled to come to India for World Cup if they feel threatened here. Let them play somewhere else.

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    The General Manager of Cricket for the International Cricket Council (ICC) Wasim Khan:

    ďI donít know if it would take place here on in a different country but a neutral venue is highly likely,Ē responded Wasim in a question regarding the likely neutral venue for Indiaís Asia Cup fixtures.

    ďI donít think that Pakistan will play their matches in India. I think their matches will also be held at a neutral venue just like Indiaís Asia Cup matches"


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    I don't think ICC will allow it.

    India's stance againt Pakistan has always been clear since 2008 - no bilateral series, no travelling to Pakistan, no playing them in Sharjah and only play in ICC events/Asia cups.

    Pakistan had NEVER such stance. Infact, PCB was desperate to resume bilateral ties with India and still is. They also never had any issue with travelling to India and they did travel in 2012 series or in 2016 T20 WC.

    Now to say, look if India don't come for Asia cup...we also won't go for world cup sounds silly, childish and *** for tat attitude. It dosen't feel genuine and hence ICC won't approve it.

    Pakistan would have the choice to pull out from the world cup all together though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    I don't think ICC will allow it.

    India's stance againt Pakistan has always been clear since 2008 - no bilateral series, no travelling to Pakistan, no playing them in Sharjah and only play in ICC events/Asia cups.

    Pakistan had NEVER such stance. Infact, PCB was desperate to resume bilateral ties with India and still is. They also never had any issue with travelling to India and they did travel in 2012 series or in 2016 T20 WC.

    Now to say, look if India don't come for Asia cup...we also won't go for world cup sounds silly, childish and *** for tat attitude. It dosen't feel genuine and hence ICC won't approve it.

    Pakistan would have the choice to pull out from the world cup all together though.
    Yup. So, if anyone can have a stance, why not us. This is our stance. We can use the same security precedence as India. Just because India has had a stance since 2008, doesn't mean Pakistan cannot have stance in 2023.
    Last edited by zarak; 29th March 2023 at 14:29.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zarak View Post
    Yup. So, if anyone can have a stance, why not us. This is our stance. We can use the same security precedence as India. Just because India has had a stance since 2008, doesn't mean Pakistan cannot have stance in 2023.
    It is totally fine to have a stance but it need to be consistent. What Pakistan is saying is, If India travels to Pakistan for Asia cup, then there would be no security issues and we would go to India for the world cup. But if they want to play Asia cup games in neutral venues then suddenly we will have security issues in India.

    It doesn't sound genuine stance to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    It is totally fine to have a stance but it need to be consistent. What Pakistan is saying is, If India travels to Pakistan for Asia cup, then there would be no security issues and we would go to India for the world cup. But if they want to play Asia cup games in neutral venues then suddenly we will have security issues in India.

    It doesn't sound genuine stance to me.
    It seems to be as logical as a stance that says we won't play Pakistan in bilaterals due to death of jawans, public anger, etc etc but happy to play in ICC events with rigged draws to maximise the indopak games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    It is totally fine to have a stance but it need to be consistent. What Pakistan is saying is, If India travels to Pakistan for Asia cup, then there would be no security issues and we would go to India for the world cup. But if they want to play Asia cup games in neutral venues then suddenly we will have security issues in India.

    It doesn't sound genuine stance to me.
    The point intimated was that thereís a security risk to the Pakistan team in playing in India. This is reasonable especially given the anti-Pakistan rhetoric from the ruling government.

    The Indian mediaís stance on not travelling to Pakistan has also been based on security issues (despite India not sending any security team to assess things, like other countries have done).

    Strangely this was not an issue when Indian national Wasim Jaffer travelled to Pakistan as Bangladesh u19s head coach quite recently. Wasnít a security threat then. But apparently some people are less Indian than others.

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    If PCB has any shame , they should boycott the WC or ask ICC to play all matches outside. High time PCB stands up against this bullying once and for all.


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    Wasim Khan will end up getting sacked Iím afraid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babeikh View Post
    Our players will be safe. There is no way the Indian government will allow anything to happen to our players as that would be a PR disaster for India.

    Just play the matches in India and play with a wonderful spirit. No need to just respond in kind to everything. Even take it as a moral high ground, whatever, just play the games.
    And I am sure even Pakistani government won't allow anything to happen to Indian players as well. Both governments have to TRUST each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    It is totally fine to have a stance but it need to be consistent. What Pakistan is saying is, If India travels to Pakistan for Asia cup, then there would be no security issues and we would go to India for the world cup. But if they want to play Asia cup games in neutral venues then suddenly we will have security issues in India.

    It doesn't sound genuine stance to me.
    Tell this to BCCI as well. Playing against Pakistan in tournaments and boycotting them in bilaterals is hypocrisy at its best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Tell this to BCCI as well. Playing against Pakistan in tournaments and boycotting them in bilaterals is hypocrisy at its best.
    Yes. I really wish PCB gives it back once


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    On the field Pakistan has zero chance of winning the ODI world cup, so they should save themselves from another embarrassing tournament.

    Off the field, the team needs to take a stance and should ask for neutral venues or opt out of the world cup.

    India ain't going to tour Pakistan for the Champions trophy in 2025. So why should Pakistan go to India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Tell this to BCCI as well. Playing against Pakistan in tournaments and boycotting them in bilaterals is hypocrisy at its best.
    That is something I agree and have always maintained its an hypocritical stance from BCCI. Personally speaking, India should not play any cricket matches with Pakistan including in ICC events/Asia Cup's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfPakBreakfast View Post
    The point intimated was that there’s a security risk to the Pakistan team in playing in India. This is reasonable especially given the anti-Pakistan rhetoric from the ruling government.

    The Indian media’s stance on not travelling to Pakistan has also been based on security issues (despite India not sending any security team to assess things, like other countries have done).

    Strangely this was not an issue when Indian national Wasim Jaffer travelled to Pakistan as Bangladesh u19s head coach quite recently. Wasn’t a security threat then. But apparently some people are less Indian than others.
    Bro, that stance is totally fine as long as PCB sticks to it. But if hypothetically India travels to Pakistan for Asia cup, would there not be any security risk? Bcoz PCB clearly stating if India comes we will go, else won't. This 'If-Else' statement is not a way to take stance. Surely if there is a security risk for Pak cricket team, they should not go to India irrespective of whatever India does for Asia cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom View Post
    It seems to be as logical as a stance that says we won't play Pakistan in bilaterals due to death of jawans, public anger, etc etc but happy to play in ICC events with rigged draws to maximise the indopak games.
    bilateral with pak gives PCB the revenue for its home series. ICC matches revenue goes to the central pool which is shared amongst all and PCB a smaller pie.

    although, having a much stricter stance of not playing against pak completely unless scheduled by fair draw & unavoidable knockout would've been good.

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    We should play all games outside India while we should play the final in India.


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    Quote Originally Posted by proud_pakistani View Post
    We should play all games outside India while we should play the final in India.
    No chance

    Either itís all outside or all inside

    It will be all inside Iím pretty sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    No chance

    Either it’s all outside or all inside

    It will be all inside I’m pretty sure
    Why don't you fans protest for a boycott ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by AamchiMumbaikar View Post
    Why don't you fans protest for a boycott ?
    Do I honestly care?

    Iíll watch it wherever it is

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    Pakistan has a better record in india than anywhere else. The pitches suit Pakistan. If the play outside india m, hope its not the UAE.

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    Just go and win it on their soil, that's how you respond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AamchiMumbaikar View Post
    Why don't you fans protest for a boycott ?
    Lol there are many other more important things to protest for tbh. Though I hope India allows fans from Pakistan to travel to watch the games.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kroll View Post
    Just go and win it on their soil, that's how you respond.
    And then get lynched by the mob? No thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    It is totally fine to have a stance but it need to be consistent. What Pakistan is saying is, If India travels to Pakistan for Asia cup, then there would be no security issues and we would go to India for the world cup. But if they want to play Asia cup games in neutral venues then suddenly we will have security issues in India.

    It doesn't sound genuine stance to me.
    Bro its politics, nothing in genuine in this. India has all the money, we want more money, so we want to play bilaterals.

    India does not need us to make money, so they are happy to not play us.

    In between the narrative of security gets thrown in and used be either side to exert its will. We need home series and home tournaments to make money, so we have to take a stance.

    Consistency is not really relevant nor does ICC care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kroll View Post
    Just go and win it on their soil, that's how you respond.
    Now that is the spirit I like and can relate. If you go by history, Pakistan team have always done well in India and better than in Pakistan/UAE. There is always a strong chance that they can have a brilliant world cup. I am sure lifting the cup in India would give the fans much more joy than boycotting the tournament or play the games somewhere.

    Similarly, a fan in me still want Indian team to travel Pakistan and beat them there. That 2004 Aman Ki Asha tour is still fresh in my memory. But it ain't gonna happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    Now that is the spirit I like and can relate. If you go by history, Pakistan team have always done well in India and better than in Pakistan/UAE. There is always a strong chance that they can have a brilliant world cup. I am sure lifting the cup in India would give the fans much more joy than boycotting the tournament or play the games somewhere.

    Similarly, a fan in me still want Indian team to travel Pakistan and beat them there. That 2004 Aman Ki Asha tour is still fresh in my memory. But it ain't gonna happen.
    I feel one of the reasons India doesnít play Pakistan in bilaterals is, the recent record. Barring the recent clashes, and 2017 CT, itís barely been competitive for over a decade.

    Hypothetically, if Pakistan establish a winning steak over India ( say in the Asia Cup games and the WC games), would the Indian public be more open to bilaterals (if for nothing else than to get a measure of payback on the streak?)?

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    Apparently suggestions that Pakistan will play its WC games in Bangladesh. Which Iím not in love with.

    Those slow wickets can get in the bin.

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    Will be sad as a cricket fan to not see Pakistan playing their games in India. I think if Pakistan play here they will get a lot of respect from the genuine Indian fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    That is something I agree and have always maintained its an hypocritical stance from BCCI. Personally speaking, India should not play any cricket matches with Pakistan including in ICC events/Asia Cup's.
    I have also come to this stance recently.

    BCCI has been inconsistent. India should either play Pakistan in bilaterals too or give up the points in multinational tournaments.

    Wimbledon lost its status a Grand Slam and doesn't offer ranking points. They still banned Russians on principle.

    We should be ready to sacrifice some things for a principled stance. Some points is a small price. It doesn't matter if that benefits PCT.

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    Pakistan should go and play in india . Great feeling . Scheduling their matches in south would be good idea .

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    Apart of me wants to see Pakistan play the tournament in India, but on the other side Pakistani players need to feel safe.

    Let Pakistan team play India in bilateral series in other countries, not just tournaments.

    On a side note: I have a lot of fond memories of Pakistan playing in India. That 2005, was the series of my childhood, I truly cherish that series.

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    All.rubbish Pakistan will travel to India mark may words, IcC will lollypop PCB into it and these baffoons will fall for it


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    If Bangladesh is selected as the country to host India for the Asia Cup and Pakistan for the World Cup then it's a fair deal.

    Normal air travel, wickets hopefully will not be overly spin friendly. It's a good compromise.

    But a clause needs to be put in that the final will be played within the host country. Need an agreement on this by both boards. Else it's a mockery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    The General Manager of Cricket for the International Cricket Council (ICC) Wasim Khan:

    “I don’t know if it would take place here on in a different country but a neutral venue is highly likely,” responded Wasim in a question regarding the likely neutral venue for India’s Asia Cup fixtures.

    “I don’t think that Pakistan will play their matches in India. I think their matches will also be held at a neutral venue just like India’s Asia Cup matches"

    According to a report by Cricbuzz, ICC distanced itself from its General Manager’s statement.

    "Bangladesh was not discussed at all at the Board meeting and full backing for the event [World Cup] in India was given by the Board. We're focused on that," an ICC official told Cricbuzz on Wednesday.

    BCB chief executive, Nizamuddin, also said that he is not privy to any development regarding them hosting Pakistan’s World Cup matches.

    Meanwhile, a top BCCI official wasn’t amused with Wasim Khan’s statement.

    "Wasim Khan has no business talking about the neutral venue, he should stop behaving like a PCB CEO," said a top BCCI official.


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    Pakistan players will be safer in India than in Pakistan. Like it or not, thats the reality.

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    Why do we need to be as petty and pathetic as BCCI? Just get on with the cricket, wherever it is.

    Besides, I don't think there's a Pakistan fan on earth who would not love to see us lifting the trophy in the Narendra Modi stadium lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebat View Post
    Why do we need to be as petty and pathetic as BCCI? Just get on with the cricket, wherever it is.

    Besides, I don't think there's a Pakistan fan on earth who would not love to see us lifting the trophy in the Narendra Modi stadium lol
    Do you really believe our team can come back home alive along with the trophy in that scenario?


    Serious Sport has nothing to do with fair play... it is war minus the shooting.

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    Ind pitches suit us more than ban ones ig

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    Wasim Khan might have said that statement casually, Cricinfo these days has lost credibility and posts just about anything for clicks.

    I'll be hugely surprised if ICC decides to have another host country just because of Pakistan, it seems illogical. Imagine Bangladesh playing their own matches in India but hosting Pakistan for their games. That's absurd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam_ahm View Post
    Imagine Bangladesh playing their own matches in India but hosting Pakistan for their games. That's absurd.
    How so? India will be doing the same in Asia Cup and 2025 CT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kroll View Post
    Just go and win it on their soil, that's how you respond.
    This! Would be the best answer to all the politics. Winning on the field, in India, will go a long way in restoring cricketing relations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daytrader View Post
    This! Would be the best answer to all the politics. Winning on the field, in India, will go a long way in restoring cricketing relations.
    That's what we thought in 2012 too. However nothing happened

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    Quote Originally Posted by daytrader View Post
    This! Would be the best answer to all the politics. Winning on the field, in India, will go a long way in restoring cricketing relations.
    No it wonít because cricketing relations are imbedded in politics in South Asia..

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    Quote Originally Posted by msb314 View Post
    No it won’t because cricketing relations are imbedded in politics in South Asia..
    Well a World Cup defeat at home will hurt. Indian superstars and fans would want an opportunity for revenge especially if Pakistan wins the WC. The players and board will be under severe criticism.

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    The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) wants to play their World Cup matches in Sri Lanka or Bangladesh, according to a report by the Asian News International (ANI).

    “Yes, we are thinking that we will not travel to India for World Cup matches if BCCI didn’t send their team to Pakistan for Asia Cup. We want Sri Lanka or Bangladesh to host our matches, we want to play there, and not in India,” PCB source told ANI.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sam_ahm View Post
    Wasim Khan might have said that statement casually, Cricinfo these days has lost credibility and posts just about anything for clicks.

    I'll be hugely surprised if ICC decides to have another host country just because of Pakistan, it seems illogical. Imagine Bangladesh playing their own matches in India but hosting Pakistan for their games. That's absurd.
    Maybe PAK and IND jointly host both Asia Cup and WC like in 1987?

    Play both the finals in UAE/AUS/QATAR

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    This will be the point of no return for cricket relations between our nations for foreseeable future.

    I hope all stakeholders realise this and are content with it. I have resigned myself to it already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    ďYes, we are thinking that we will not travel to India for World Cup matches if BCCI didnít send their team to Pakistan for Asia Cup. We want Sri Lanka or Bangladesh to host our matches, we want to play there, and not in India,Ē PCB source told ANI.



    And posters here want us to believe there's a genuine security concern for the Pakistani players in India and that is only reason they are unwilling to visit.

    Thank you PCB for this elite honesty.

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    Here is what will happen -

    There won't be any Asia Cup without India.

    India won't be playing a single Asia Cup game in Pakistan irrespective of what happens.

    Pakistan will visit India and will play all of its world cup games here. (Or) Take the drastic yet unlikely route of pulling out of the world cup..

    I'm willing to bet my entire bank account on all the above statements panning out to be true..

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    Its just all crazy.. its better these two countries stop playing each other completely and let the rest of cricket to continue so we can finally just concentrate on good cricket.

    Not everyone in the world care about politics or whats happening at the borders. Some of us is only interested in cricket and our personal lives. Indian government lost their minds about 20 years ago now and brought politics into every sports loving person lives for no reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesozoic View Post


    And posters here want us to believe there's a genuine security concern for the Pakistani players in India and that is only reason they are unwilling to visit.

    Thank you PCB for this elite honesty.
    This is what I was saying yesterday that PCBs concerns dosen't feel genuine. If India comes to Pakistan for Asia cup, we go to India for world cup...else we won't bcoz there is a security threat. That is a hollow excuse. I don't think ICC will agree to it.

    India's stance has always been the same since 2008 - world cup or Asia cup or any cup dosen't matter, India would not travel to Pakistan or play them in bilaterals or play them in tournaments in Sharjah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesozoic View Post
    Here is what will happen -

    There won't be any Asia Cup without India.

    India won't be playing a single Asia Cup game in Pakistan irrespective of what happens.

    Pakistan will visit India and will play all of its world cup games here. (Or) Take the drastic yet unlikely route of pulling out of the world cup..

    I'm willing to bet my entire bank account on all the above statements panning out to be true..
    Did you already change your prediction that Asia Cup won't be held in Pakistan? Not sure you bet your entire bank account on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesozoic View Post
    Here is what will happen -

    There won't be any Asia Cup without India.

    India won't be playing a single Asia Cup game in Pakistan irrespective of what happens.

    Pakistan will visit India and will play all of its world cup games here. (Or) Take the drastic yet unlikely route of pulling out of the world cup..

    India are $@^& scared to play Pakistan so just avoid playing them altogether to stop getting a battering unless they have to in an ICC event.

    I'm willing to bet my entire bank account on all the above statements panning out to be true..
    There, that strengthened your bet and you can rest easy your money is safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebat View Post
    Why do we need to be as petty and pathetic as BCCI? Just get on with the cricket, wherever it is.

    Besides, I don't think there's a Pakistan fan on earth who would not love to see us lifting the trophy in the Narendra Modi stadium lol
    Pakistan players are not safe in India, stop kidding yourselves. Itís a country where anti-Pakistan rhetoric is openly encouraged and you want our cricketers to go to that hell-hole for your entertainment?

    Give us neutral venues or boycott the whole thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesozoic View Post


    And posters here want us to believe there's a genuine security concern for the Pakistani players in India and that is only reason they are unwilling to visit.

    Thank you PCB for this elite honesty.
    Maybe two things can be true at once.

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    Indian government has made quite clear that they will not let any benefit go to pakistan or PCB thru their name or brand. And everybody knows why is like that.

    The stance of pakistan players security in india is linked to indian team visiting pakistan for asia cup is bogus and based on bad assumptions.

    The most practical way to solve this issue is to stage Asia cup on neutral venue and PCB take all profit of the tournament as they are the host. Pakistan should decide if they want to play on neutral venue for worldcup and take firm stance on it but the issue for this option is that it will block every possible way of indian team visiting pakistan for champions trophy 2025.

    If pakistan go to india for world cup then it may opens a door for indian team visiting pakistan for CT 2025.

    PCB should look for greater interest based on long run. I still remember how pcb refused to send players for IPL after mumbai attacks and then cut their own legs as india never invited pakistani players after that.

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    Pakistan should not play any games in india

    Lets see how india feel when pakistan plays its game outside the couuntry or simply drop out of the tournament?

    Pakistan has a bit of a leverage for once and they should use it to their advantage fully
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adi_62945 View Post
    Indian government has made quite clear that they will not let any benefit go to pakistan or PCB thru their name or brand. And everybody knows why is like that.

    The stance of pakistan players security in india is linked to indian team visiting pakistan for asia cup is bogus and based on bad assumptions.

    The most practical way to solve this issue is to stage Asia cup on neutral venue and PCB take all profit of the tournament as they are the host. Pakistan should decide if they want to play on neutral venue for worldcup and take firm stance on it but the issue for this option is that it will block every possible way of indian team visiting pakistan for champions trophy 2025.

    If pakistan go to india for world cup then it may opens a door for indian team visiting pakistan for CT 2025.

    PCB should look for greater interest based on long run. I still remember how pcb refused to send players for IPL after mumbai attacks and then cut their own legs as india never invited pakistani players after that.
    Sounds like you are suggesting PCB should do what's in best interests of India, not PCB and/or Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahsan17 View Post
    Sounds like you are suggesting PCB should do what's in best interests of India, not PCB and/or Pakistan.
    You should accept the reality. The issue is not in cricket board hands. Its government to government. They did baycott pakistan on every event/stage possible from last 5-6 years or so. There is a difference between ACC event and an ICC event.
    Pakistan should look for their interest. CT is a big event than Asia cup and they should look to that. Small loss is better than big loss

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