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24th March 2023, 10:13 #1
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Should Pakistan play all of its 2023 World Cup matches outside of India?
Apparently, the PCB and BCCI are discussing the possibility that all of India's Asia cup matches will be played at a neutral venue, outside of Pakistan.
A reasonable compromise for both sides but also advantageous for India since they won't have to keep moving to different venues.
Should Pakistan push for the same treatment during the World Cup? Playing all of our matches in Dubai or Sharjah, where we know the conditions better than most other teams could be the tactical edge that our players need to win the World Cup.
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24th March 2023, 12:31 #2
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24th March 2023, 12:33 #3
Might as well play all of it outside if that’s the case
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24th March 2023, 12:34 #4
Pakistan should not travel to India , our players safety comes first, its the right thing to do, to have Pakistan play their world cup matches at another venue
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24th March 2023, 12:37 #5
This is an odd precedence. Surely ICC cannot allow this unless it's for safety reasons. And even in that case, maybe play the games in empty stadiums (like they do in football once in a while)?
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24th March 2023, 12:41 #6
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24th March 2023, 12:55 #7
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24th March 2023, 13:24 #8
Yeah, that would be the best thing to do.
If it isn't allowed, then forfeit the game vs ind and carry on with the tournament as normal.
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24th March 2023, 13:35 #9
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Our players will be safe. There is no way the Indian government will allow anything to happen to our players as that would be a PR disaster for India.
Just play the matches in India and play with a wonderful spirit. No need to just respond in kind to everything. Even take it as a moral high ground, whatever, just play the games.Last edited by Babeikh; 24th March 2023 at 13:36.
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24th March 2023, 15:19 #10
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24th March 2023, 16:02 #11
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24th March 2023, 16:04 #12
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24th March 2023, 17:51 #13
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24th March 2023, 17:58 #14
Pakistan should not travel to India.
As general said, this does happen so people have to play the game : Siddique Salik
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24th March 2023, 18:09 #15
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24th March 2023, 19:07 #16
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24th March 2023, 19:07 #17
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25th March 2023, 10:45 #18
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If India is not wanting to travel to Pakistan for Asia Cup and they are opting to play in a neutral venue (which is the current situation)
Then Pakistan needs to stand their ground and also decide that they will not travel to India for the 2023 Cricket World Cup, and instead opt to play their matches in a neutral venue. If ICC or BCCI or whatever wont accept this, then Pakistan should pull out of the 2023 World Cup.
I should note that Asia Cup is such a useless and irrelevant tournament, but if India is going to keep making these decisions to not play Pakistan in ODI, Test, T20 series, and not tour Pakistan for Asia Cup, Then Pakistan cant just keep accepting this and tour India, as Pakistan is in the right.
And yes I accept that Financially, BCCI will not be financially affected by this, (but ICC may be), but all I want is for Pakistan to stand up if India wont be touring Pakistan for Asia Cup.
There may not be a financial impact, but it will put a sting to the tournament firstly, and more importantly it will be known that Pakistan is not going to played around.
They already just had Australia who only just recently toured for the first time in 24 Years, while New Zealand pulled out of a tour due to a fake Social Media Message (However Pakistan has done well to solve this issue).
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25th March 2023, 10:53 #19
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25th March 2023, 11:01 #20
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I don't mind the proposal given that we are not willing to play in Pakistan. But just like India will have to bear it's own costs in the Asia Cup, Pakistan need to bear their own costs in the World Cup.
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25th March 2023, 11:34 #21
Pakistan should not be compelled to come to India for World Cup if they feel threatened here. Let them play somewhere else.
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29th March 2023, 11:46 #22
The General Manager of Cricket for the International Cricket Council (ICC) Wasim Khan:
“I don’t know if it would take place here on in a different country but a neutral venue is highly likely,” responded Wasim in a question regarding the likely neutral venue for India’s Asia Cup fixtures.
“I don’t think that Pakistan will play their matches in India. I think their matches will also be held at a neutral venue just like India’s Asia Cup matches"
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29th March 2023, 13:15 #23
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I don't think ICC will allow it.
India's stance againt Pakistan has always been clear since 2008 - no bilateral series, no travelling to Pakistan, no playing them in Sharjah and only play in ICC events/Asia cups.
Pakistan had NEVER such stance. Infact, PCB was desperate to resume bilateral ties with India and still is. They also never had any issue with travelling to India and they did travel in 2012 series or in 2016 T20 WC.
Now to say, look if India don't come for Asia cup...we also won't go for world cup sounds silly, childish and *** for tat attitude. It dosen't feel genuine and hence ICC won't approve it.
Pakistan would have the choice to pull out from the world cup all together though.
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29th March 2023, 14:28 #24
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29th March 2023, 14:36 #25
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It is totally fine to have a stance but it need to be consistent. What Pakistan is saying is, If India travels to Pakistan for Asia cup, then there would be no security issues and we would go to India for the world cup. But if they want to play Asia cup games in neutral venues then suddenly we will have security issues in India.
It doesn't sound genuine stance to me.
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29th March 2023, 14:45 #26
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29th March 2023, 14:46 #27
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The point intimated was that there’s a security risk to the Pakistan team in playing in India. This is reasonable especially given the anti-Pakistan rhetoric from the ruling government.
The Indian media’s stance on not travelling to Pakistan has also been based on security issues (despite India not sending any security team to assess things, like other countries have done).
Strangely this was not an issue when Indian national Wasim Jaffer travelled to Pakistan as Bangladesh u19s head coach quite recently. Wasn’t a security threat then. But apparently some people are less Indian than others.
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29th March 2023, 15:07 #28
If PCB has any shame , they should boycott the WC or ask ICC to play all matches outside. High time PCB stands up against this bullying once and for all.
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29th March 2023, 15:08 #29
Wasim Khan will end up getting sacked I’m afraid
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29th March 2023, 15:17 #30
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29th March 2023, 15:22 #31
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29th March 2023, 15:29 #33
On the field Pakistan has zero chance of winning the ODI world cup, so they should save themselves from another embarrassing tournament.
Off the field, the team needs to take a stance and should ask for neutral venues or opt out of the world cup.
India ain't going to tour Pakistan for the Champions trophy in 2025. So why should Pakistan go to India.
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29th March 2023, 15:32 #34
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29th March 2023, 15:38 #35
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Bro, that stance is totally fine as long as PCB sticks to it. But if hypothetically India travels to Pakistan for Asia cup, would there not be any security risk? Bcoz PCB clearly stating if India comes we will go, else won't. This 'If-Else' statement is not a way to take stance. Surely if there is a security risk for Pak cricket team, they should not go to India irrespective of whatever India does for Asia cup.
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29th March 2023, 15:38 #36
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bilateral with pak gives PCB the revenue for its home series. ICC matches revenue goes to the central pool which is shared amongst all and PCB a smaller pie.
although, having a much stricter stance of not playing against pak completely unless scheduled by fair draw & unavoidable knockout would've been good.
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29th March 2023, 15:40 #37
We should play all games outside India while we should play the final in India.
"Nations are born in the hearts of poets, they prosper and die in the hands of politicians."-Iqbal
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29th March 2023, 15:43 #38
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29th March 2023, 16:17 #41
Pakistan has a better record in india than anywhere else. The pitches suit Pakistan. If the play outside india m, hope its not the UAE.
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29th March 2023, 16:36 #42
Just go and win it on their soil, that's how you respond.
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29th March 2023, 16:48 #43
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29th March 2023, 16:50 #44
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29th March 2023, 16:53 #45
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Bro its politics, nothing in genuine in this. India has all the money, we want more money, so we want to play bilaterals.
India does not need us to make money, so they are happy to not play us.
In between the narrative of security gets thrown in and used be either side to exert its will. We need home series and home tournaments to make money, so we have to take a stance.
Consistency is not really relevant nor does ICC care.
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29th March 2023, 17:17 #46
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Now that is the spirit I like and can relate. If you go by history, Pakistan team have always done well in India and better than in Pakistan/UAE. There is always a strong chance that they can have a brilliant world cup. I am sure lifting the cup in India would give the fans much more joy than boycotting the tournament or play the games somewhere.
Similarly, a fan in me still want Indian team to travel Pakistan and beat them there. That 2004 Aman Ki Asha tour is still fresh in my memory. But it ain't gonna happen.
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29th March 2023, 17:22 #47
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I feel one of the reasons India doesn’t play Pakistan in bilaterals is, the recent record. Barring the recent clashes, and 2017 CT, it’s barely been competitive for over a decade.
Hypothetically, if Pakistan establish a winning steak over India ( say in the Asia Cup games and the WC games), would the Indian public be more open to bilaterals (if for nothing else than to get a measure of payback on the streak?)?
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29th March 2023, 17:36 #48
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Apparently suggestions that Pakistan will play its WC games in Bangladesh. Which I’m not in love with.
Those slow wickets can get in the bin.
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29th March 2023, 17:41 #49
Will be sad as a cricket fan to not see Pakistan playing their games in India. I think if Pakistan play here they will get a lot of respect from the genuine Indian fans.
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29th March 2023, 18:18 #50
I have also come to this stance recently.
BCCI has been inconsistent. India should either play Pakistan in bilaterals too or give up the points in multinational tournaments.
Wimbledon lost its status a Grand Slam and doesn't offer ranking points. They still banned Russians on principle.
We should be ready to sacrifice some things for a principled stance. Some points is a small price. It doesn't matter if that benefits PCT.
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29th March 2023, 19:59 #51
Pakistan should go and play in india . Great feeling . Scheduling their matches in south would be good idea .
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29th March 2023, 22:04 #52
Apart of me wants to see Pakistan play the tournament in India, but on the other side Pakistani players need to feel safe.
Let Pakistan team play India in bilateral series in other countries, not just tournaments.
On a side note: I have a lot of fond memories of Pakistan playing in India. That 2005, was the series of my childhood, I truly cherish that series.
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29th March 2023, 22:29 #54
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If Bangladesh is selected as the country to host India for the Asia Cup and Pakistan for the World Cup then it's a fair deal.
Normal air travel, wickets hopefully will not be overly spin friendly. It's a good compromise.
But a clause needs to be put in that the final will be played within the host country. Need an agreement on this by both boards. Else it's a mockery.
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30th March 2023, 01:35 #55
According to a report by Cricbuzz, ICC distanced itself from its General Manager’s statement.
"Bangladesh was not discussed at all at the Board meeting and full backing for the event [World Cup] in India was given by the Board. We're focused on that," an ICC official told Cricbuzz on Wednesday.
BCB chief executive, Nizamuddin, also said that he is not privy to any development regarding them hosting Pakistan’s World Cup matches.
Meanwhile, a top BCCI official wasn’t amused with Wasim Khan’s statement.
"Wasim Khan has no business talking about the neutral venue, he should stop behaving like a PCB CEO," said a top BCCI official.
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30th March 2023, 02:02 #56
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Pakistan players will be safer in India than in Pakistan. Like it or not, thats the reality.
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30th March 2023, 05:15 #57
Why do we need to be as petty and pathetic as BCCI? Just get on with the cricket, wherever it is.
Besides, I don't think there's a Pakistan fan on earth who would not love to see us lifting the trophy in the Narendra Modi stadium lol
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30th March 2023, 05:30 #59
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Ind pitches suit us more than ban ones ig
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30th March 2023, 05:30 #60
Wasim Khan might have said that statement casually, Cricinfo these days has lost credibility and posts just about anything for clicks.
I'll be hugely surprised if ICC decides to have another host country just because of Pakistan, it seems illogical. Imagine Bangladesh playing their own matches in India but hosting Pakistan for their games. That's absurd.
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30th March 2023, 06:19 #61
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30th March 2023, 09:22 #62
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30th March 2023, 16:15 #66
The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) wants to play their World Cup matches in Sri Lanka or Bangladesh, according to a report by the Asian News International (ANI).
“Yes, we are thinking that we will not travel to India for World Cup matches if BCCI didn’t send their team to Pakistan for Asia Cup. We want Sri Lanka or Bangladesh to host our matches, we want to play there, and not in India,” PCB source told ANI.
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30th March 2023, 16:50 #67
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30th March 2023, 16:50 #68
This will be the point of no return for cricket relations between our nations for foreseeable future.
I hope all stakeholders realise this and are content with it. I have resigned myself to it already.
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30th March 2023, 16:56 #70
Here is what will happen -
There won't be any Asia Cup without India.
India won't be playing a single Asia Cup game in Pakistan irrespective of what happens.
Pakistan will visit India and will play all of its world cup games here. (Or) Take the drastic yet unlikely route of pulling out of the world cup..
I'm willing to bet my entire bank account on all the above statements panning out to be true..
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30th March 2023, 17:02 #71
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Its just all crazy.. its better these two countries stop playing each other completely and let the rest of cricket to continue so we can finally just concentrate on good cricket.
Not everyone in the world care about politics or whats happening at the borders. Some of us is only interested in cricket and our personal lives. Indian government lost their minds about 20 years ago now and brought politics into every sports loving person lives for no reason.
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30th March 2023, 17:52 #72
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This is what I was saying yesterday that PCBs concerns dosen't feel genuine. If India comes to Pakistan for Asia cup, we go to India for world cup...else we won't bcoz there is a security threat. That is a hollow excuse. I don't think ICC will agree to it.
India's stance has always been the same since 2008 - world cup or Asia cup or any cup dosen't matter, India would not travel to Pakistan or play them in bilaterals or play them in tournaments in Sharjah.
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30th March 2023, 20:59 #73
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30th March 2023, 22:40 #77
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Indian government has made quite clear that they will not let any benefit go to pakistan or PCB thru their name or brand. And everybody knows why is like that.
The stance of pakistan players security in india is linked to indian team visiting pakistan for asia cup is bogus and based on bad assumptions.
The most practical way to solve this issue is to stage Asia cup on neutral venue and PCB take all profit of the tournament as they are the host. Pakistan should decide if they want to play on neutral venue for worldcup and take firm stance on it but the issue for this option is that it will block every possible way of indian team visiting pakistan for champions trophy 2025.
If pakistan go to india for world cup then it may opens a door for indian team visiting pakistan for CT 2025.
PCB should look for greater interest based on long run. I still remember how pcb refused to send players for IPL after mumbai attacks and then cut their own legs as india never invited pakistani players after that.
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30th March 2023, 23:00 #78
Pakistan should not play any games in india
Lets see how india feel when pakistan plays its game outside the couuntry or simply drop out of the tournament?
Pakistan has a bit of a leverage for once and they should use it to their advantage fullyLast edited by Zaz; 30th March 2023 at 23:02.
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30th March 2023, 23:23 #79
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30th March 2023, 23:37 #80
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You should accept the reality. The issue is not in cricket board hands. Its government to government. They did baycott pakistan on every event/stage possible from last 5-6 years or so. There is a difference between ACC event and an ICC event.
Pakistan should look for their interest. CT is a big event than Asia cup and they should look to that. Small loss is better than big loss