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    Pakistan to play three Tests in Australia in December-January

    Pakistan will make a trip Down Under later in the year to take on Australia for the Benaud-Qadir Trophy. The three Tests – part of the third World Test Championship cycle – will be played at Perth, Melbourne and Sydney in December and January.

    The tour will open at the Perth Stadium on 14 December and it will mark the first instance of Pakistan playing a Test at the venue. The two teams will face off in the Boxing Day Test at the iconic Melbourne Cricket Ground from 26 till 30 December and the third and final match will be played at the Sydney Cricket Ground from 3 January, 2024. Pakistan have played 10 Tests at the MCG and eight at the SCG – at both venues they have won two matches each.

    In the lead-up to the series, Pakistan will play a four-day warm-up to acclimatise to the conditions Down Under.

    This will be Pakistan captain Babar Azam’s third Test tour of Australia. The prolific stroke-maker previously landed on the Australian soil in December 2016, under Misbah-ul-Haq’s captaincy, and November 2019, when Azhar Ali was the captain of the side.

    The right-hander has 278 runs – including a century – in five Tests. On the 2019 tour, Babar scored a century in the second innings in the first Test in Brisbane and followed it up with a 97 at Adelaide.

    Naseem Shah made his Pakistan debut at Brisbane in November 2019 and since has evolved as mainstay in Pakistan’s bowling line-up across all formats. The right-arm speedster has 80 wickets in 42 matches.

    Pakistan last toured Australia for the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup and finished as the finalists.

    The Benaud-Qadir Trophy was launched in 2022 when Australia arrived in Pakistan after 16 years for a three-Test series. Pat Cummin’s side bagged the first iteration as they bagged the series 1-0 after defeating Pakistan in Lahore in the third and final Test.

    Schedule

    14-18 Dec: First Test, Perth Stadium

    26-30 Dec: Second Test, Melbourne Cricket Ground

    3-7 Jan: Third Test, Sydney Cricket Ground


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    Embarrassment awaits Pakistan.

    I would send a combo of seniors and A team. Let the juniors get some experience.

    This way the pressure and expectation will be off Pakistan slightly, and then who knows.

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    So:

    In the lead-up to the series, Pakistan will play a four-day warm-up to acclimatise to the conditions Down Under.

    Always the same

    We go there and get minimal warm-ups and then get bashed in Tests.


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    InshaAllah Babar Azam to be captain for this as well

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    This will be a good series.

    I think we can nick a test match but we have to play the right side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom View Post
    This will be a good series.

    I think we can nick a test match but we have to play the right side.
    Lol

    We couldn’t ‘Nick a test’ at home against the Aussies but we can do so on their turf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Lol

    We couldn’t ‘Nick a test’ at home against the Aussies but we can do so on their turf
    You can keep crying in thread to thread.

    But in non phattas and if we have our best available team there is some room for optimism.

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    What a scary thought this is.

    Just one warm-up match which is ridiculous planning.

    Well this is bound to be a stern test for our top-order batters, although I feel our pace bowlers could cause a few problems for the Aussies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom View Post
    You can keep crying in thread to thread.

    But in non phattas and if we have our best available team there is some room for optimism.
    Oh and the teams beating us at our ground on these phattas will lose some kind of advantage on their ground?

    You have to be one of the most dense cricket analysts here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    What a scary thought this is.

    Just one warm-up match which is ridiculous planning.

    Well this is bound to be a stern test for our top-order batters, although I feel our pace bowlers could cause a few problems for the Aussies.
    Who are our pace bowlers and how many Tests do they have between them?

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    Hope PCB prepares well for this very important series to make it a competitive one . Time for Babar to prove himself a world class batter and also time for many others to raise their status including Shaheen, Nasim, Fakhar, Imam and Rizwan. Hope Ihsannulah will also play a significant role.

    With Micky at the helm of affairs , I am hopeful for a good show by Pakistan team , unlike in the past .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Oh and the teams beating us at our ground on these phattas will lose some kind of advantage on their ground?

    You have to be one of the most dense cricket analysts here
    I am a fan who comes to express his opinion. Im not an analyst nor do I claim to be one.

    Im surprised you think any of your posts on any topic resemble 'analysis'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom View Post
    I am a fan who comes to express his opinion. Im not an analyst nor do I claim to be one.

    Im surprised you think any of your posts on any topic resemble 'analysis'.
    Fair enough.

    This is Test cricket. REAL cricket. So always ensure you that you consider all aspects before making statements such as ‘Nick off a Test’ in Australia having lost 4 Tests at home in the space of 12 months under Babar Azam.

    The realists will take offence

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    Don’t blame the players after we get whitewashed there.

    Blame the management and the PCB for not giving our players enough time to prepare in their conditions.


    Ideally, we should be playing 3 warm ups at each venue.

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    We will get smashed unless Babar turns up and scores runs and others support. The bowlers will under pressure and have to shoe fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    Hope PCB prepares well for this very important series to make it a competitive one . Time for Babar to prove himself a world class batter and also time for many others to raise their status including Shaheen, Nasim, Fakhar, Imam and Rizwan. Hope Ihsannulah will also play a significant role.

    With Micky at the helm of affairs , I am hopeful for a good show by Pakistan team , unlike in the past .
    I think, what the Pak. team needs is a new captain. A captain who is a leader. Babar is not a leader. He is a very good bat and should concentrate on that. Should give up captaincy. Will serve the team better.

    A good example I can give is Tendulkar-Ganguly. Tendulkar was not a good leader, but an all time great bat. He realised that quickly and without any ego gave up the seat to a leader, Ganguly. It served the Ind. team very well.

    The question is, are there any leaders in the current Pak. setup?

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    Rename the title to: "Pakistan to get whitewashed in yet another 3 test series down under".

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    3 innings defeats are a certainty as it's the weakest Pakistan team to ever play Tests.

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    batsman usually dont do so bad in aus, its the bowlers who go in with the false assumption that bowling in aus will be easy who fail to take 20 wickets consistently.

    batting in aus is easier than bowling these days, pak need shaheen and naseem on top form, even then its unlikely pak will take 20 wickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Fair enough.

    This is Test cricket. REAL cricket. So always ensure you that you consider all aspects before making statements such as ‘Nick off a Test’ in Australia having lost 4 Tests at home in the space of 12 months under Babar Azam.

    The realists will take offence
    We have some decent players this time.

    Babar
    Imam
    Shaheen
    Rizwan
    Naseem Shah

    The last tour was a disaster because of Misbahs selections but this time if we go prepared there is a chance.

    Pakistan always has a slight chance on pitches that can help the bowlers vs phattas because on phattas we don't have the ability to outgun other teams.

    If being a realist is to make Asif Ali captain, declare Sharjeel to be the best batsman in Pakistan and dream of fantasies about Rizwan, then Im happy to be a fantasist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    We will get smashed unless Babar turns up and scores runs and others support. The bowlers will under pressure and have to shoe fight.
    Bowling in Australia is the main problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by GLORY OF '92 View Post
    3 innings defeats are a certainty as it's the weakest Pakistan team to ever play Tests.
    Weakest team was when Misbah selected Musa Khan.

    This team has 4-5 players who can hopefully click at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom View Post
    We have some decent players this time.

    Babar
    Imam
    Shaheen
    Rizwan
    Naseem Shah

    The last tour was a disaster because of Misbahs selections but this time if we go prepared there is a chance.

    Pakistan always has a slight chance on pitches that can help the bowlers vs phattas because on phattas we don't have the ability to outgun other teams.

    If being a realist is to make Asif Ali captain, declare Sharjeel to be the best batsman in Pakistan and dream of fantasies about Rizwan, then Im happy to be a fantasist!
    Yes. Those are appropriate comments for the appropriate format

    Not the dumb one about ‘nicking off a test’ having lost to them every time for the past 30 odd years in Australia

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    Bowling in Australia is the main problem
    Agreed, it's been poor for a long time. Even the 99 attack got smashed although we would a test if the Langer caught behind was given, we may have won a test

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Yes. Those are appropriate comments for the appropriate format

    Not the dumb one about ‘nicking off a test’ having lost to them every time for the past 30 odd years in Australia
    Ok.

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    Unless AU squad gets to have many injuries issue, I have zero hope from this captain. However, the question is very valid: Who would lead otherwise in tests? No way Imam. Rizwan is battling for his spot in tests. Shaheen is aggressive, but when it comes to using head, I would rather have Baber’s.

    I wish if (fit) Sarfraz had brain to control his tongue lashing, he would be the one to lead. Even being optimistic, I am sounding very pessimistic as of now :@


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    Quote Originally Posted by CricVet View Post
    Unless AU squad gets to have many injuries issue, I have zero hope from this captain. However, the question is very valid: Who would lead otherwise in tests? No way Imam. Rizwan is battling for his spot in tests. Shaheen is aggressive, but when it comes to using head, I would rather have Baber’s.

    I wish if (fit) Sarfraz had brain to control his tongue lashing, he would be the one to lead. Even being optimistic, I am sounding very pessimistic as of now :@
    It has to be Babar now. And I want it to be him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    It has to be Babar now. And I want it to be him
    And we all know why! It pains me as well seeing such a captain leading a test team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CricVet View Post
    And we all know why! It pains me as well seeing such a captain leading a test team.
    He gets what he deserves

    Clinging on to the T20 captaincy in order to do favours for his own batting position and his mates

    Not stepping down after that horror show in the World Cup

    Demanding captaincy from why PSL franchise he moved to and still clinging on as an opener when he has no business in that position

    Well go on Bobby, this is what you want to be!

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    “The last time Pakistan did not lose a Test match in Australia, Javed Miandad was still playing international cricket”

    This legendary statement will remain valid after this series.

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    Think Pakistan team is on the rise with a really strong core of Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen and Naseem Shah. They have unearthed some really promising players in last 6-8 months. Australia is not that difficult to bat in general so expect Pakistan to win 1 Test at the least . Infact they have a fair chance to draw the series given that Australia team has weakened quite a bit .

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    A nice and easy 3-0 loading for Australia. Free WTC points on for grabs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RajBan View Post
    Think Pakistan team is on the rise with a really strong core of Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen and Naseem Shah. They have unearthed some really promising players in last 6-8 months. Australia is not that difficult to bat in general so expect Pakistan to win 1 Test at the least . Infact they have a fair chance to draw the series given that Australia team has weakened quite a bit .
    Shaheen and Naseem are not going to get 20 Australian wickets.

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    Congratulations to Australia on a 3-0 series victory.

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    Our test team is the weakest of all 3 formats and in Australia our players seem to forget they are cricketers.

    Not optimistic. Just hoping our pacers don't forget how to hold a ball this time.

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    Pak will win one test..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom View Post
    We have some decent players this time.

    Babar
    Imam
    Shaheen
    Rizwan
    Naseem Shah

    The last tour was a disaster because of Misbahs selections but this time if we go prepared there is a chance.

    Pakistan always has a slight chance on pitches that can help the bowlers vs phattas because on phattas we don't have the ability to outgun other teams.

    If being a realist is to make Asif Ali captain, declare Sharjeel to be the best batsman in Pakistan and dream of fantasies about Rizwan, then Im happy to be a fantasist!
    I think they should take Arshad Iqbal with them and ask him to try to do whatever Josh Hazlewood is doing. He's the kind of bowler who can succeed down under if he bowls with some discipline.

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    Pointless for this to be 3 tests. Australia will only need 8 days to win all three games. Even if Australia rest, rotate and bring in B squad players it will not make a difference.

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    2-1 Australia.

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    Knowing Pakistan they will probably like to scrap these Tests and ask CA to play 8 T20’s instead

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    I dont know why there is so much optimism to win a Test match vs Australia in Australia.

    No matter how good we were or how bad Australia were in the last 30 years we have yet TO DRAW A TEST let alone win one in Australia

    And suddenly Pakistan is losing 2-1.

    Where are we winning the test suddenly?


    And I get so high.. And I just can't feel it....

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    2-1 to pakistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Bassim View Post
    I dont know why there is so much optimism to win a Test match vs Australia in Australia.

    No matter how good we were or how bad Australia were in the last 30 years we have yet TO DRAW A TEST let alone win one in Australia

    And suddenly Pakistan is losing 2-1.

    Where are we winning the test suddenly?
    Lool exactly

    Is Qudrat going to do something this year?

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    2-1 will be a nightmare to AU, and the AU captain will have to have too many questions to answer with that FAILURE. I doubt AU will end up losing to Pak by winning 2-1 ;)


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    What will interest me is how the likes of Imam, Babar, Abdullah Shafique etc will cope in Australia.

    Their techniques will be thoroughly tested out there.


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    3-0 Australia.

    Not only that but Pakistan will not bowl Australia out twice in any of the 3 tests.

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    Pakistani bowlers need to review India's bowling tactics, field placements for the Australian batsmen during the 2021/2022 series under Bharat Arun. Eliminate the cuts, pulls and ruthlessly target the off, middle stump with a packed leg side field and a leg slip. Stick to these tactics even if you have to do it non stop for 100 plus overs but restrict the scoring rate to 1 run per over. The goal should be to not let the Australian batsmen put up more than 200-300 runs in the innings.

    If our bowlers can step up for once and succeed in doing this, no reason why we can't finally be competitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    What will interest me is how the likes of Imam, Babar, Abdullah Shafique etc will cope in Australia.

    Their techniques will be thoroughly tested out there.
    To be honest, its our bowling and fielding which has habitually been the problem. Our bowlers have lost us in Australia in the last 20 plus years. Pakistan's batting will take care of itself if the bowlers can do their job properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Pakistani bowlers need to review India's bowling tactics, field placements for the Australian batsmen during the 2021/2022 series under Bharat Arun. Eliminate the cuts, pulls and ruthlessly target the off, middle stump with a packed leg side field and a leg slip. Stick to these tactics even if you have to do it non stop for 100 plus overs but restrict the scoring rate to 1 run per over. The goal should be to not let the Australian batsmen put up more than 200-300 runs in the innings.

    If our bowlers can step up for once and succeed in doing this, no reason why we can't finally be competitive.
    You step up by being ready for a fight

    Not for cake after the day ends

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    The team id want to see playing in those test matches:

    Huraira
    Shafique
    Babar
    Saud
    Iftikhar
    Rizwan
    Faheem
    Shaheen
    Naseem
    Abrar
    Haris Rauf/Ihsanullah

    Reserves:
    Arshad Iqbal, Sameen Gul, Agha Salman, Usama Mir

    If we get spin friendly conditions anywhere Agha can replace Faheem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    “The last time Pakistan did not lose a Test match in Australia, Javed Miandad was still playing international cricket”

    This legendary statement will remain valid after this series.
    Never mind winning in Australia, if that statement does not motivate the boys to play better than average cricket, nothing will!!

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    International fixtures for Australia’s 2023/24 summer of cricket have been revealed, with 11 venues across seven capital cities to host matches against Pakistan, South Africa and West Indies.

    Australia’s men’s and women’s teams are both currently at the top end of international rankings, so fans will see world-class cricket at every fixture played across Adelaide, Brisbane, Canberra, Hobart, Melbourne, Perth and Sydney.

    Following on from the Qantas Tour of England and ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup 2023, Australia’s men’s team will host Pakistan and West Indies in a new cycle of the World Test Championship. All five men’s Test matches across the home summer will be played in the holiday period, making these marquee fixtures even more accessible for families.

    The NRMA Insurance Test Series against Pakistan will start in Perth on 14 December with two world-class pace bowling attacks to feature on the fast Perth Stadium surface. Babar Azam’s team will also feature in the Boxing Day Test at the MCG and the New Year’s Test at the SCG.

    The men’s Test season will extend into late January with Adelaide (17-21 Jan) and Brisbane (25-29 Jan) to host fixtures against West Indies, with the pink ball day-night Test shifting to the Gabba for 2023/24.

    The West Indies men’s team will also feature in two white-ball series, with the Dettol T20I and ODI series to be played across Melbourne, Sydney, Canberra, Hobart, Adelaide and Perth in February.

    The world champion Australian women’s team will bookend the international season, starting with the CommBank T20l and ODI series against West Indies in October, followed by a multi-format series against T20 World Cup finalists South Africa in January-February. This will include the first ever women’s Test match between Australia and South Africa from 15-18 February at the WACA Ground.

    Entry level prices have been frozen for the eighth consecutive year, with men’s international prices starting from $30 for adults, $10 for kids and $65 for families.

    Fans can also secure early bird ticket prices by joining the Australian Cricket Family pre-sale that commences on 17 May. Cricket Australia is offering ACF members a 15% discount for tickets purchased in the presale on select seating categories. This offer will only apply in the pre-sale before tickets go on sale to the public on 6 June.

    Cricket Australia CEO Nick Hockley said: “Cricket provides the sights and sounds of the summer and brings Australians together like no other sport and we can’t wait to welcome fans to watch world-class cricket next season. 

    “We look forward to West Indies, Pakistan and South Africa visiting our shores this summer and we thank them along with all our partners, including broadcasters, venues and local governments for their support in bringing top-class entertainment to fans around the country.

    “We are delighted to be offering our most loyal fans the opportunity to secure the best seats at the best prices in our Australian Cricket Family pre-sale. We’re also proud to be able to keep our entry level ticket prices flat for the eighth consecutive season to ensure as many people as possible can experience and enjoy women's and men’s international cricket.”

    2023-24 SUMMER OF INTERNATIONAL CRICKET

    CommBank Women’s T20I Series v West Indies
    1 October: North Sydney Oval, Sydney
    2 October: North Sydney Oval, Sydney (N)
    5 October: Allan Border Field, Brisbane (N)

    CommBank Women’s ODI Series v West Indies
    8 October: Allan Border Field, Brisbane
    12 October: Junction Oval, Melbourne
    15 October: Junction Oval, Melbourne

    CommBank Women’s T20I Series v South Africa
    27 January: Manuka Oval, Canberra
    28 January: Manuka Oval, Canberra
    30 January: Blundstone Arena, Hobart (N)

    CommBank Women’s ODI Series v South Africa
    3 February: Adelaide Oval, Adelaide (D/N)
    7 February: North Sydney Oval, Sydney (D/N)
    10 February: North Sydney Oval, Sydney (D/N)

    CommBank Women’s Test Match v South Africa
    15-18 February: WACA Ground, Perth

    NRMA Insurance Men’s Test Series v Pakistan
    14-18 December: Perth Stadium, Perth
    26-30 December: Melbourne Cricket Ground, Melbourne
    3-7 January: Sydney Cricket Ground, Sydney

    NRMA Insurance Men’s Test Series v West Indies
    17-21 January: Adelaide Oval, Adelaide
    25-29 January: The Gabba, Brisbane (D/N)

    Dettol Men’s ODI Series v West Indies
    2 February: Melbourne Cricket Ground, Melbourne (D/N)
    4 February: Sydney Cricket Ground, Sydney (D/N)
    6 February: Manuka Oval, Canberra (D/N)

    Dettol Men’s T20I Series v West Indies
    9 February: Blundstone Arena, Hobart (N)
    11 February: Adelaide Oval, Adelaide (N)
    13 February: Perth Stadium, Perth


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    ^why does Pakistan not get ODI or T20 series in Australia? Do Pakistan not bring any revenue? Surprised WI is getting Tests, ODIs & T20s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    “The last time Pakistan did not lose a Test match in Australia, Javed Miandad was still playing international cricket”

    This legendary statement will remain valid after this series.
    Didn’t you say that statement? Did you just call your own statement legendary?

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    It’s gonna be Bounce Billo in Perth @topspin

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    In Australia, due the style of cricket that gets played, the size of grounds, the crowds that come in, and the massive baggage that the PCT team carries… captaincy is more detrimental than it is at any other venue.

    Unfortunately, we have a below average who inspires zero confidence.

    Another whitewash coming up

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    I don't even see the point of playing tests in Australia because neither our batsmen or bowlers have the skillset or physical attributes proper tall height for fast bowlers to be successful at test cricket In Australia. Just thinking of openers like imam , shafique , shan masood is enough to tell me are going to get a thrashing then we have saud shakeel who has been exposed in county cricket he can't play short pitched bowling and is very suspect .

    We are better at limited overs and have more chance winning limited overs games and surely there is more viewership and money to be made in white ball games.

    Yet no odis or t20s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Third Man View Post
    I think they should take Arshad Iqbal with them and ask him to try to do whatever Josh Hazlewood is doing. He's the kind of bowler who can succeed down under if he bowls with some discipline.
    The Aussies will sadly massacre a young and up and coming bowler.

    I think we need to take a fairly seasoned squad of bowlers so perhaps Hassan Ali, Mohammed Abbas, Faheem Ashraf ( mickey likes him), Sameen Gul ( good FC exp) and Hasnain will be there along with Shaheen & Naseem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom View Post
    The Aussies will sadly massacre a young and up and coming bowler.

    I think we need to take a fairly seasoned squad of bowlers so perhaps Hassan Ali, Mohammed Abbas, Faheem Ashraf ( mickey likes him), Sameen Gul ( good FC exp) and Hasnain will be there along with Shaheen & Naseem.
    Amazing suggestions

    Warner could probably break the world record in 3 sessions of Day 1 with a line up of Hassan Ali, Abbas and Faheem Ashraf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Amazing suggestions

    Warner could probably break the world record in 3 sessions of Day 1 with a line up of Hassan Ali, Abbas and Faheem Ashraf
    Who has made that suggestion?

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    Anything other than 3-0 to Australia will be a miracle. Babar, Abdullah Shafique and Rizwan may get some runs, however I have very little hope from the rest.

    Imam if he plays will be bounced out for fun. Saud Shakeel is having a very ordinary county season at the moment, suggesting his ability to handle lateral movement is questionable. Let’s see how he handles bounce in Australia. Agha Salman I’m not really sure what to expect.

    The bowlers, as always, will struggle to get 20 wickets. Pakistan does not have a test quality spinner, and it remains to be seen who will partner Shaheen and Naseem, who themselves are unlikely to run through the Australian side. Having said that, a wooden plank could partner them and it would be a better decision than playing Musa Khan on the previous tour.

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    Now we'll have 3 innings defeats instead of 2...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    What a scary thought this is.

    Just one warm-up match which is ridiculous planning.

    Well this is bound to be a stern test for our top-order batters, although I feel our pace bowlers could cause a few problems for the Aussies.
    Traditionally, Pakistan fast bowling has been the bigger let down down under with the sole exception of Akram and briefly Asif. For example, Warner’s average vs Pak during the last test series was 489, and Aussies.

    If Pak bowling, like India’s, can dismiss Aussies within 250-350 range regularly, the series will be interesting.
    If Pak batting does OK down under that is, which it somewhat does.

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    Oh bhai stop Rona Dhona, Shaheen and Naseem with more experience now along with Ihsan Ullah aren't walk in the park for Aussies only if our fielders can hold onto dollies.
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    Aussies are expected to win 3-0. They are strong at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom View Post
    The Aussies will sadly massacre a young and up and coming bowler.

    I think we need to take a fairly seasoned squad of bowlers so perhaps Hassan Ali, Mohammed Abbas, Faheem Ashraf ( mickey likes him), Sameen Gul ( good FC exp) and Hasnain will be there along with Shaheen & Naseem.
    Savvy! Biggest reason why Pak loses so badly in Australia is because it tries to think “out of the box”. The worse is bring bowlers who are “fast” or can “bowl short”, both of which backfire.
    Just bring experienced seamers who can bowl with control and eliminate cut and pull. Make Aussies drive. Abbas, Ali, and Faheem are spot on as choices, along with Naseem and Shaheen.

    Also, bring a spinner who has MASSIVE control and can bowl tight plans for long periods. No one comes to mind honestly.

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    Along with Shafiq and Shan Masood ( yes he is best of the worst lot vs Bounce sadly) as opener than Babar, Shakeel, Kamran Ghulam, Rizwan, Agha, Faheem, Shaheen, Naseem and Ihsan Ullah, they are the best team we can put and they may not win but they will be no pushovers and much better team than last tour.

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    ^ Batting till 8th and then bowlers who can atleast whack it a bit and sometime also stick around at 9 and 10, 4 proper fast bowling options who all can average around 140 kph, Faheem around 135 kph and all can crank upto 5 to 10 kph with effort balls. Enough pace of they are accurate enough, 2 tall enough bowlers along with 2 mid height ones, but can swing and reverse swing it better, Agha is enough for some part time spin of max 10 overs tu give little breather to fast bowlers, and anyways we don't have good enough specialist spinners for Aussies conditions, so don't need to play specialist just for sake of it , Saud can also bowl some handy part time slow left arm, Faheem is best test class so called all rounder we have , we can have wasim but he is liability with bat and haven't played enough test cricket to get thrown in deep end.

    So 8 would give this bowling 8/10 and Our batting 6/10, where as Aussies have great team but are wrong side of age now , so there bowling is 9/10 and batting now 7/10 with warner on last legs and Smith hit and miss now vs quality bowling, so just one point difference in both departments imo which can even out of other and luck factors like toss and pitch conditions suit us and Aussie play a little below par and we above par.

    Captaincy will be major factor and i would rather have Rizwan as test captain than Babar , he can continue in LOI formats till next respective WCs but test anyone but Babar can do Babar job , otherwise this team will not even be equal to sum of its parts. And will be All Deja Vu like last tour under Misbah. If pitchers are typical Aussie flat pitches our batting can atleast score around 300 on average , and if too spicy our bowling can also rout them under 200, so most likely will be flattish Aussie pitches with enough bounce, my only worries are batters will get bounced out with lack of proper technique and practice or fielders will drop typical dollies , if we somehow manage these both things and don't commit unforced errors this can be one hell of a series.

    All above can be materialized except Babar not captaining I guess , still one can hope he may learn a thing or two about test captaincy by now by some miracle.
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    Since it will be after elections in Pakistan and the regime will change to PTI. It will be a good excuse for IK to fire Mickey and Bradburn and bring back his people.

    Losing to Australia last year in Pakistan brought a new chairman, prepare for a new chairman after the next Australia series also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basitmian View Post
    Since it will be after elections in Pakistan and the regime will change to PTI. It will be a good excuse for IK to fire Mickey and Bradburn and bring back his people.

    Losing to Australia last year in Pakistan brought a new chairman, prepare for a new chairman after the next Australia series also.
    Stuff like this gives me anxiety

    InshaAllah Imran Khan never comes back into power

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElRaja View Post
    batsman usually dont do so bad in aus, its the bowlers who go in with the false assumption that bowling in aus will be easy who fail to take 20 wickets consistently.

    batting in aus is easier than bowling these days, pak need shaheen and naseem on top form, even then its unlikely pak will take 20 wickets.
    If I had to take lead on this then, it may sound far fetched and I could be totally wrong, but I think Perth is our best chance.

    We have a gun bowling attack and the wicket in Perth is brutal for the batsmen.

    If our bowling could truly rip thru the Aussie batting line (twice in the match), and our langri looli batting line could limp to the target - we may just have a slight chance to cross the victory line.

    But I guess Chappell must be sharpening his knives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    What a scary thought this is.

    Just one warm-up match which is ridiculous planning.

    Well this is bound to be a stern test for our top-order batters, although I feel our pace bowlers could cause a few problems for the Aussies.
    While our batting doesn't do anything extraordinary in Australia but, still an okish job here and there. Our pace bowling though has historically struggled badly with even Shoaib and Waqar having nothing much to write home about. If our pacers adjust this time around then I believe we will be able to atleast compete this time around.

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    The lengths and accuracy that is needed in Australia Pakistan has lacked historically. As much as it is good to have good pace, its more to do with ability to be able to get the 6 balls in good areas as per the conditions which makes a big difference in Australia.

    If we can 20 wickets in Australia then we will be competing well this time around. However, getting those 20 wickets is gonna be some task if we take into account the history.

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    What about spin department?
    Who'll play role like Ashwin, Jadeja, Lyon? Or like Washington sunder did for India in Gabba.

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    Ihsanullah in Australia is an interesting prospect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanos View Post
    What about spin department?
    Who'll play role like Ashwin, Jadeja, Lyon? Or like Washington sunder did for India in Gabba.
    Abrar is the only option we have.

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    Not surprised to see that no one is crediting Sethi for negotiating a 3 match series and the Boxing Day Test at the G.

    If only a fan favorite PCB Chairman had pulled this off some people wouldn’t stop talking about it.

    Pakistan does not deserve to play more than 2 Tests in Australia and does not deserve to play the Boxing Day Test. Really well done to Sethi for pulling it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Not surprised to see that no one is crediting Sethi for negotiating a 3 match series and the Boxing Day Test at the G.

    If only a fan favorite PCB Chairman had pulled this off some people wouldn’t stop talking about it.

    Pakistan does not deserve to play more than 2 Tests in Australia and does not deserve to play the Boxing Day Test. Really well done to Sethi for pulling it off.
    Didn’t we play them on Boxing Day back in 2016, did you or anyone else credit Shaharyar Khan?

    Why aren’t we talking about the 4 day warm up game, can’t Sethi send the players 2-3 weeks before the start of the first test match?


    Bring Back Umar Akmal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Not surprised to see that no one is crediting Sethi for negotiating a 3 match series and the Boxing Day Test at the G.

    If only a fan favorite PCB Chairman had pulled this off some people wouldn’t stop talking about it.

    Pakistan does not deserve to play more than 2 Tests in Australia and does not deserve to play the Boxing Day Test. Really well done to Sethi for pulling it off.
    I believe the FTP was negotiated and announced during Ramiz Rajas regime (Aug 2022). Sethi & Co came into power in December 2022

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    The embarrassing losing streak of Pakistan will eventually end someday. I will not be surprised if they fluke a win this time.

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