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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by hasbeen
    i have already taken the gap yr
    my younger sis wanted to be a designer & my dad wanted her to take up medical...I remember both having arguments almost every day , eventually it came down my opinion ........being very close to my sis , I obviously supported her .......it took sometime for us to convince my dad , he did take few weeks to calm down even after she joined a design colg......now my sis is a lead designer for a big firm here & you have no Idea how proud my dad is of her !

    you probably shud have tried convincing your parents , no parents will force their kids to do they are not interested in...if you had just kept quite then , its all your fault....don blame your parents now !


    " you don't play for the crowd, you play for your country " - MSD

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    Quote Originally Posted by jusarrived
    my younger sis wanted to be a designer & my dad wanted her to take up medical...I remember both having arguments almost every day , eventually it came down my opinion ........being very close to my sis , I obviously supported her .......it took sometime for us to convince my dad , he did take few weeks to calm down even after she joined a design colg......now my sis is a lead designer for a big firm here & you have no Idea how proud my dad is of her !

    you probably shud have tried convincing your parents , no parents will force their kids to do they are not interested in...if you had just kept quite then , its all your fault....don blame your parents now !

    ok boss!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayanni
    FAQ

    oops - u live in isloo

    I was referring to UK in my sentence

    how is isb today
    Islamabad is cool as ever


    Best Regards,

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    Investment Banker, London.(Nothing beats being a uni student though)

    TaZ

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    Im a student, doing law. Also a part-time aviation security agent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaZ
    Investment Banker, London.(Nothing beats being a uni student though)

    TaZ
    i can vouch for Taz - def Investment banker -

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    FAQ

    in what sector are u based - my cousins live in F-10

    Do you mind me adding u to msn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayanni
    FAQ

    in what sector are u based - my cousins live in F-10

    Do you mind me adding u to msn?
    I work here in F-7, I basically live on the boundary of Rawalpindi/Islamabad
    Do you mind me adding u to msn?
    My pleasure
    Last edited by FAQ; 17th May 2007 at 10:04.


    Best Regards,

  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by FAQ
    I work here in F-7, I basically live on the boundary of Rawalpindi/Islamabad
    Basically my home doesnt come under any police, Islamabad police says its not their territory and Pindi Traffic Police says its not theirs

    So, you can pretty much come to my place if cops are chasing you for over speeding
    Last edited by FAQ; 17th May 2007 at 10:17.


    Best Regards,

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    Thanks

    do u live in Pindi or Isloo?

    Must be hard to work for an American company - knowing they could be a target due to American policies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAQ
    Basically my home doesnt come under any police, Islamabad police says its not their territory and Pindi District says its not theirs

    So, you can pretty much come to my place if cops are chasing you for over speeding
    very useful info

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    We can come and rob you,
    then you'll be really %&*!ed


    []Wazeeri aka Shaheed Benazir Bhutto Wazeeri[/]

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayanni
    Thanks

    do u live in Pindi or Isloo?

    Must be hard to work for an American company - knowing they could be a target due to American policies?
    nah, not that much, the authorities are governed locally, so its going pretty smoothly

    basically I live near the Islamabad highway, across the road is Islamabad and the place where I am is Rawalpindi, so very interesting place ;)


    Best Regards,

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    acha

    i would love to work in Pakistan - magar cant find any big mutlinational construction consultancies in ISB/LHR!!!!!!

    The ones i know are mainly civil engineering ones

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    yaar to be very frank, dont have much knowledge about such companies but mostly the work being done here is by EMAAR, NLC


    Best Regards,

  16. #96
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    yeh know about Emaar they are huge in Asia -

    who are NLC?

    One day i will go back - even if its to stop the wife nagging me!!!!!!!! lolz

    what about u - have u ever worked abroad

  17. #97
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    I have worked in MiddleEast (Kuwait mainly) for 6 months or so, will go abroad once I get some more experience


    Best Regards,

  18. #98
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    acha

    but the IT and Telcomms industry is booming in Pak at the moment - even my younger bro was tempted to apply to work for Telenor in Lahore!!!!!!!!

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    yaar, the scene is not that good, having first hand knowledge of what the Telcos do and the way IT companies operate, its not good for future. there is no quality audit, no IT audit concept here, they can easily land into big trouble


    Best Regards,

  20. #100
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    hmmmm

    but telenor is run by outsiders surely there is some iso 9000 control?

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    Any Oracle APPS roles available in pindi/islamabad?

  22. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by kayanni
    hmmmm

    but telenor is run by outsiders surely there is some iso 9000 control?
    cant comment on a public forum


    Best Regards,

  23. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by SameerM
    Any Oracle APPS roles available in pindi/islamabad?
    yaar getting in IT in ISB/RWP is tough, people are looking for all-rounders, without reference (I don't mean safarish here) you don't get good job. Jobs are there but generally not announced, they are hired through acquaintances.


    Best Regards,

  24. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by FAQ
    cant comment on a public forum


    we the public have a right to know the truth ----

  25. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by kayanni


    we the public have a right to know the truth ----
    I have signed NDA with my company


    Best Regards,

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    acha

    hmmmmmmmm - maybe when i chat with you on msn u will reveal all!!!!!!!!!!!

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    NDA means Non-Disclosure Agreement ,

    but seriously there is nothing much but inadequacies which i wont want to go in the details


    Best Regards,

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    just teasing ya

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    i am a student

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    wish i was still a student - wat fun those days were

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    i guess the reason we have no doctors on PP is cuz doctors hardly get any time for cricket or internet surfing..oh dear! i might have to rethink my linke of study..haha

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    im an auditor

    training to chartered accountant

    interesting work i promise you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayanni
    Construction Project Manager - something totally Non-Asian
    it certainly is

    Just finishing my placement year, go back to Uni in Sept and insh'allah will finish my degree this time next year and then slowly but surely start my climb towards project manager and beyond

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    In a career aptitude test I took recently, 3 of the options was a chrtd engineer (mechanical, chemical & biologic). Is anybody on PP one. If so what do you do in that profession. I just wanted a 1st hand account...

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    I work in credit control for a financial institute. Have done the job for 18 months and find am progressing well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed
    it certainly is

    Just finishing my placement year, go back to Uni in Sept and insh'allah will finish my degree this time next year and then slowly but surely start my climb towards project manager and beyond
    who did u do ur placement with and wat uni u at

    i am currently working on the cheesegrater building (the leadenhall building) with Bovis all 54 floors of it........

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    I eat 3 times a day to live

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asim2Good
    I eat 3 times a day to live
    very nice


    Best Regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asim2Good
    I eat 3 times a day to live
    Mujhe Kaam batao Mai kia karoon mai kis ko Khaoon.. (ZAKOOTA)

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    Work in a bank in Bahrain - IT/Business analyst for Treasury/Risk


    For answers to the Universe, Life and everything : TheSourceNews(TSN)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIG
    Work in a bank in Bahrain - IT/Business analyst for Treasury/Risk
    My eyes always sparkle when I hear the word "treasure"


    Best Regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAQ
    My eyes always sparkle when I hear the word "treasure"
    I "support" Treasury - dont own it ...


    For answers to the Universe, Life and everything : TheSourceNews(TSN)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIG
    I "support" Treasury - dont own it ...
    sab kuch hotay huay bhi kuch nahi hai meray pass ?

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    Mig - we will help u own in return for a share!!!!!

  45. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by kayanni
    Mig - we will help u own in return for a share!!!!!
    yes, I get load of emails from Burkina Faso, Nigeria, and Congo etc asking for my help to transfer millions of $$$, but I was never interested but I may think over it if I get the same offer from someone in Bahrain


    Best Regards,

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    hahahahahahah

    i get the same as well - come on Mig we trust you to do th biz for us!!!!!!

    FAQ did u get the msg saying i want to add u to msn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayanni
    hahahahahahah

    i get the same as well - come on Mig we trust you to do th biz for us!!!!!!

    FAQ did u get the msg saying i want to add u to msn?
    Well yes, I have already blocked you


    Best Regards,

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    acha ji, its like that is - lolz

    if u block me you wont get anything from MIG when he share his treasure

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    sales person cellphones usa

  50. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by kayanni
    who did u do ur placement with and wat uni u at

    i am currently working on the cheesegrater building (the leadenhall building) with Bovis all 54 floors of it........
    McCarthy and Stone (they build retirement flats) - its fairy straightforward constructiong BUT it was good for the experience BUT flats/homes is not something im keen on. Im at Northumbria Uni

    Leadenhall building - that is quality bro

    btw i take it you did a construction management degree? if so what topic did you do your dissertation on?

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    Engineering Student + Co-op Employment (switching every 4 months)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salman
    IT / Projects manager at leading nordic investment bank's London office.

    Small car salvage business on the side.
    What kind of Salvage business it is? Do you have a Salvage yard? or else. I also do Auto business on side in TX, US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed
    McCarthy and Stone (they build retirement flats) - its fairy straightforward constructiong BUT it was good for the experience BUT flats/homes is not something im keen on. Im at Northumbria Uni

    Leadenhall building - that is quality bro

    btw i take it you did a construction management degree? if so what topic did you do your dissertation on?
    I graduated in 99 from UCL in Construction Project Management - dissertation was on Partnering as it was a new thing baCK then........

    Are you going to move to Manchester or London when u graduate - they are the main 2 hotspots for commercial buildings at the moment....

    send me a private msg with your email details willl ya

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    Quote Originally Posted by jattafridi
    sales person cellphones usa
    Where is your store? What new cell phones are out for Cingular?


    PakPassion's Offical Lurker

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    Quote Originally Posted by hasbeen
    i have already taken the gap yr
    bruv youd be fine.. the thing is finish your degree off as you can always change professions once youve completed it.. you seem like a decent chap whose brain was on a leave when you started following man u.. i know how you feel.. my dad wanted me and my siblings to do medicine.. hes pretty ****** off that we didnt take his advise seriously but thats what pisses me off abt asian parents.. no f'ing clue of what the child wants..


    Shahid Afridi :- the glue which binds Pakistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by madaboutlfc
    bruv youd be fine.. the thing is finish your degree off as you can always change professions once youve completed it.. you seem like a decent chap whose brain was on a leave when you started following man u.. i know how you feel.. my dad wanted me and my siblings to do medicine.. hes pretty ****** off that we didnt take his advise seriously but thats what pisses me off abt asian parents.. no f'ing clue of what the child wants..

    so what do you do now then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hasbeen
    so what do you do now then?
    accountancy.. im in the process of starting my own business as well


    Shahid Afridi :- the glue which binds Pakistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by madaboutlfc
    accountancy.. im in the process of starting my own business as well
    mashallah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayanni
    I graduated in 99 from UCL in Construction Project Management - dissertation was on Partnering as it was a new thing baCK then........

    Are you going to move to Manchester or London when u graduate - they are the main 2 hotspots for commercial buildings at the moment....

    send me a private msg with your email details willl ya
    im planning on staying in Newcastle if possible - there are a fair few commercial projects happening here - obviously not to the scale of London/Manchester BUT insha'allah enough to keep me here for the foreseeable future atleast

    (I gave Oxy my e-mail address, he will send it to you)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medic
    In a career aptitude test I took recently, 3 of the options was a chrtd engineer (mechanical, chemical & biologic). Is anybody on PP one. If so what do you do in that profession. I just wanted a 1st hand account...

    An example of mechanical engineering in terms of practical could be mechatronics (mechanical aspect to robotics).


    Imran Khan but Immanuel Kant

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    Quote Originally Posted by filosofee
    An example of mechanical engineering in terms of practical could be mechatronics (mechanical aspect to robotics).
    are you a mechatronics engineer?


    Best Regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAQ
    are you a mechatronics engineer?
    No!
    Last edited by filosofee; 28th May 2007 at 14:01. Reason: I feel I prefer to keep my profession private now!


    Imran Khan but Immanuel Kant

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    Quote Originally Posted by filosofee
    No, a cognitive roboticist.
    sounds interesting, what's one of them?



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    Quote Originally Posted by sam1eh
    sounds interesting, what's one of them?

    Concerned with the cognitive aspect to robot building (mind, intelligence, consciousness and all that)


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    Quote Originally Posted by filosofee
    Concerned with the cognitive aspect to robot building (mind, intelligence, consciousness and all that)
    so ur going to make the first robots that take over the world?



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    Quote Originally Posted by sam1eh
    so ur going to make the first robots that take over the world?
    No, just to take over umpiring in cricket matches


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    Quote Originally Posted by filosofee
    No, a cognitive roboticist.
    Man !! some tough living out there, would you like to explain what exactly do you do? I know what exactly there is in Mechatronics engineering but this doesnt seem like engineering


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    Quote Originally Posted by FAQ
    Man !! some tough living out there, would you like to explain what exactly do you do? I know what exactly there is in Mechatronics engineering but this doesnt seem like engineering
    Depends on what your definition of engineering is!

    Mechatronic Engineers the world over (and I recently attended a DTi delegation on Russian Mechatronics) may be interested to know why you feel "this doesnt seem like engineering" - or maybe not!

    No, don't feel the need to explain "what exactly" I do - you are, however, welcome to attend my conference presentation next month (alas it is in Enschede, can you make it, there may be a fee?) - and don't worry it is not "tough living"


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    undergrad mechanical engineer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxy
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    No teachers out here but several "ustaads" are here ;)


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    Quote Originally Posted by filosofee
    Depends on what your definition of engineering is!

    Mechatronic Engineers the world over (and I recently attended a DTi delegation on Russian Mechatronics) may be interested to know why you feel "this doesnt seem like engineering" - or maybe not!
    Well the way the cognitive sciences are proceeding, I dont consider them to be engineering (you may not agree to it), the problem is that instead of working on the philosophies of real intelligence, the cognitive sciences tend to formulate everything in some absurd equations and stuff like that. For example, taking the example of chess, what are the chess machines doing, they are simply beating the human mind by the help of computing (solving some high order equations) skills not on the basis of intelligence.

    and in my view mechatronics engineering is just another cousin of mechanical engineering which I don't think has much to do with artificial intelligence.
    No, don't feel the need to explain "what exactly" I do - you are, however, welcome to attend my conference presentation next month (alas it is in Enschede, can you make it, there may be a fee?) - and don't worry it is not "tough living"
    hmm, well I wouldn't be able to make it but if you could send me reading material that would be great.


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    My response in bold below:

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    Well the way the cognitive sciences are proceeding, I dont consider them to be engineering

    Who has claimed that cognitive science is a form of engineering? Oh, yes, you (making an inference)! What do you mean by the plural "... sciences"?

    the problem is that instead of working on the philosophies of real intelligence, the cognitive sciences tend to formulate everything in some absurd equations and stuff like that.

    Where is the evidence to support your claim? Is this from your experience - "stuff like that"?

    For example, taking the example of chess, what are the chess machines doing, they are simply beating the human mind by the help of computing (solving some high order equations) skills not on the basis of intelligence.

    What original thought! You're way behind the times. I guess this is because you're located in Islamabad? Perhaps you're unacquanted with current research and achievements. For instance, the Lexus vehicle with road vision recognition, so keeping the vehicle in lane - as long as the driver wants to remain in a specific lane. And, with incorporated sensors, facilitates hands-free parking - usesful for females, those that can afford £71,000 for this particular model!

    But returning to chess, many would agree that good chess-players are accepted as exhibiting a feature of intelligence: a certain type of problem-solving. Hence, in the 1950's IBM sought to build a machine to play and beat Grandmasters, and succeeded in doing - see '90's Deep Blue II vs Kasparov literature. You may not concede it as an exposition of intelligence but I would argue that it demonstrated an alternative to intelligence - another means in executing a resolution.

    Look for AI strides in artificial olfaction (machines able to distinguish between thousands of smells) text-based dialogical query systems utilised in e-commerce (concommitantly increasing sales/profits and reducing call-centre costs), to name two.



    and in my view mechatronics engineering is just another cousin of mechanical engineering which I don't think has much to do with artificial intelligence.

    Again you are confused; who has claimed mechatronics as AI? You again! Mechatronics is the mechanical engineering aspect to robot building. You should know that since in your earlier post you claim to know "exactly what is mechatronics". Frankly, your opinion on this does not count for much unless you have published/have international peer-reviewed papers, i.e. valid empirically-tested foundation.

    hmm, well I wouldn't be able to make it but if you could send me reading material that would be great.
    Failure to recognise irony! If you're interested, Google, say, for first year undergrad level mechanical engineering and robotics.

    Lastly, your signature, presumably taken from Drew McDermott's book, overlooks the many stupid machines, such as prototypes that the general public never get to see
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    what about a career in cricket betting ?? Imagine just staying at home and watching cricket.. On a serious note, how about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by filosofee
    My response in bold below:



    Failure to recognise irony! If you're interested, Google, say, for first year undergrad level mechanical engineering and robotics.

    Lastly, your signature, presumably taken from Drew McDermott's book, overlooks the many stupid machines, such as prototypes that the general public never get to see
    Only one response to all your long justification, the examples you gave work on training data, artificial intelligence is something beyond just training data, true intelligence is based on intuition and I am afraid I haven't heard of a system that works on intuition.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FAQ
    Only one response to all your long justification, the examples you gave work on training data, artificial intelligence is something beyond just training data, true intelligence is based on intuition and I am afraid I haven't heard of a system that works on intuition.
    It is indeed quite clear, from your ill-informed posts, that you have never heard of a system with intuition!

    Training data, artificial intelligence is something beyond training data , true intelligence - phrases you use but fail to show any comprehension for (as in the case of mechatronics which you claim "know exactly what it is").

    Re "training data" this is exactly a feature of child development, i.e. young children are trained to refer to a chair as a chair and not, say, as a table. A child does not come hard-wired with this kind of knowledge, it is acquired, learnt.

    I notice that you deleted then re-introduced your signature (adaptation of Drew McDermott's book title Artificial Intelligence meets Natural Stupidity). Plagiarist!

    I'm afraid I don't have the time (nor inclination to be honest) to respond to further posts from you on this. Good luck with whatever it is you do.
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    note so self, every girl on pp is fair game but steer clear of filsofee. So this essentially means Samia and miggy have no amnesty


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    Few "buzzurgs" require a crash course on online ethics


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    Have to agree - such aggression is uncalled for...


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    Quote Originally Posted by FAQ
    Few "buzzurgs" require a crash course on online ethics
    who/what are u referring to?



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