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    Lessons for those who want to learn Urdu

    Salam guys,

    Anyone who wishes to learn urdu can request translations or explanations up here.

    I am sure those who know it will be glad to help.


    []Wazeeri aka Shaheed Benazir Bhutto Wazeeri[/]

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    1) لیے

    2) لئے

    3) لیئے

    ان میں سے صحیح کون سا ہے ؟



    کجھ شہر دے لوک وی ظالم سن
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    لئے
    Last edited by W63L35; 23rd December 2007 at 14:44.

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    عجیب بات یہ ہے کہ اس لفظ کو تینوں طریقوں سے لکھے ہوے دیکھا ہے !!



    کجھ شہر دے لوک وی ظالم سن
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    TAK you are right. I just browsed a few Urdu websites (Jang etc) and only saw #2 in list used frequently but did not see #3 and #1 at all. I always used #1 in my writings........but I have not written Urdu in last 10 years until this forum.

    So.....please do not think I am an expert on Urdu.

    Can you find some examples where #1 and #3 used?

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    i was reading a bbc article today and 3 was used, but it is the first time i have seen it spelt this way, i have come across 2 used more frequently though.



    کجھ شہر دے لوک وی ظالم سن
    کجھ مینوں مرن دا شوق وی سی

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAK
    i was reading a bbc article today and 3 was used, but it is the first time i have seen it spelt this way, i have come across 2 used more frequently though.
    BBC??? What do Brits know about Urdu?

    Yes, you are right! In my case I have never seen # 3....always used #1 but I think, #2 is the correct one!

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    i use 2 too !

    hey bbc urdu is not bad yaar: http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/



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    I want to learn urdu ,seriously . so that bbc is the best site ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by siddharth
    I want to learn urdu ,seriously . so that bbc is the best site ?
    the BBC site is hard to read. I just don't like the fonts and I have difficulty reading it. It is not to learn Urdu but it is news

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    How many alphabets are there in urdu ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by siddharth
    I want to learn urdu ,seriously . so that bbc is the best site ?

    sidd, do you know any urdu?

    the bbc site is not the place to learn Urdu, it is an Urdu site, the font problem is easilly overcome by clicking on the download urdu font in the top lefy hand corner.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TAK
    sidd, do you know any urdu?

    the bbc site is not the place to learn Urdu, it is an Urdu site, the font problem is easilly overcome by clicking on the download urdu font in the top lefy hand corner.
    I don't know any thing about this language .But i would like to learn .what about teaching 5 words per day here

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    well the bbc site is no use to you

    you start with 5 words in english and i will endeavour to translate

    by the way do you speak a language other than english?

    there is only one alphabet, containing err about 35 letters???
    Last edited by TAK; 24th December 2007 at 18:04.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TAK
    well the bbc site is no use to you

    you start with 5 words in english and i will endeavour to translate

    by the way do you speak a language other than english?
    I can speak hindi also .Urdu pronounciation is similar to hindi ,right ?

    Aap batayiye

    1. Mein (I)

    2.Tu (you)

    3.Tum (you)

    4.Aap(You)

    5.hain (verb),haim ...

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    I will get you started,
    I am sure you know hindi so it is just a matter of learning the sounds of the letters.

    First of all we have accents instead of vowels for most words. So just place consonants next to each other and we'll know what you mean. As in tum is just TM.

    Following are some of the main words and there sounds.

    ا A, this is pretty much used as an A.
    ب B, this B
    پ P,
    ت This is T as in Tau Kya Hua,Teri Maa, tum,
    ٹ T, Tumaatar, Taklu
    ج J
    چ CH, Chacha Cricket
    خ Kh...as in Khan the greatest caste in Pakistan
    د This is Dhaal as in the stuff Indian fast bowlers eat
    ڈ This Daal as in Sreesanth ko Dhaal Daal
    ر R
    ڑ This is R as in GuRia, stuff Akhtar plays with
    س S
    ش SH
    ض Z
    ف F
    ک K
    گ G (never used to make the J sound, G as Gadha, word used to describe fast bowlers from Pindi)
    ل L
    م M
    ن N
    و W
    ی Y this is used as a Ya sound and used as a vowel like ee, AMEE
    ے Y this is used as a Ya sound and used as a vowel to make the AY sound, as in GAY


    Now type some message up and we'll teach you the finer details from there.
    Last edited by Wazeeri; 24th December 2007 at 18:13.


    []Wazeeri aka Shaheed Benazir Bhutto Wazeeri[/]

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    if you can converse in hindi yaar you can converse in urdu

    if you are seriois u need to learn the script



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    Wazeeri ,thanks a lot .Let me learn those alphabets first .Then we can start sentences ,okay.

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    Just say a sentence using the list above.
    Hit the ground running.
    Last edited by Wazeeri; 24th December 2007 at 18:38.


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    1. Mein (I) میں

    2.Tu (you) تو

    3.Tum (you) تم

    4.Aap(You) آپ

    5.hain (verb) ہیں




    کجھ شہر دے لوک وی ظالم سن
    کجھ مینوں مرن دا شوق وی سی

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    Sid

    Another thing Urdu is written joint up,

    So as TAK has written above

    تم tum

    This is ت م

    mein is م ی ں joined up this looks like میں

    Read right to left.


    []Wazeeri aka Shaheed Benazir Bhutto Wazeeri[/]

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAK


    1. Mein (I) میں

    2.Tu (you) تو

    3.Tum (you) تم

    4.Aap(You) آپ

    5.hain (verb) ہیں

    I am trying to write this .Man very difficult

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    Quote Originally Posted by siddharth
    I am trying to write this .Man very difficult
    i know exactly what you mean, i re-learned to write urdu last year, it took me 3/4 months!!!

    i just couldn't control my hands when writing from right to left, i literally used to turn the page 90 degrees to the left so it looked like i was writing downwards

    but gradually the page straightened and the handwriting started to come!!!



    کجھ شہر دے لوک وی ظالم سن
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAK
    i know exactly what you mean, i re-learned to write urdu last year, it took me 3/4 months!!!

    i just couldn't control my hands when writing from right to left, i literally used to turn the page 90 degrees to the left so it looked like i was writing downwards

    but gradually the page straightened and the handwriting started to come!!!
    Thats very encouraging . I would try my best .

    Btw what is that sign ,is it ''+'' or ''*''?
    Last edited by siddharth; 24th December 2007 at 19:23.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wazeeri
    I will get you started,
    I am sure you know hindi so it is just a matter of learning the sounds of the letters.

    First of all we have accents instead of vowels for most words. So just place consonants next to each other and we'll know what you mean. As in tum is just TM.

    Following are some of the main words and there sounds.

    ا A, this is pretty much used as an A.
    ب B, this B
    پ P,
    ت This is T as in Tau Kya Hua,Teri Maa, tum,
    ٹ T, Tumaatar, Taklu
    ج J
    چ CH, Chacha Cricket
    خ Kh...as in Khan the greatest caste in Pakistan
    د This is Dhaal as in the stuff Indian fast bowlers eat
    ڈ This Daal as in Sreesanth ko Dhaal Daal
    ر R
    ڑ This is R as in GuRia, stuff Akhtar plays with
    س S
    ش SH
    ض Z
    ف F
    ک K
    گ G (never used to make the J sound, G as Gadha, word used to describe fast bowlers from Pindi)
    ل L
    م M
    ن N
    و W
    ی Y this is used as a Ya sound and used as a vowel like ee, AMEE
    ے Y this is used as a Ya sound and used as a vowel to make the AY sound, as in GAY


    Now type some message up and we'll teach you the finer details from there.

    Thank you for this Wazeeri, I am soooo out of reading practice, will willingly learn along with you chaps here.


    Imran Khan but Immanuel Kant

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    Like I said guys the best way to learn is to jump right into it.

    Type a few sentences using the info you have and you will be corrected and taught as you go along.


    []Wazeeri aka Shaheed Benazir Bhutto Wazeeri[/]

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    آپ

    Wanted to write Aap kaisey hain,but couldn't find a way .
    Last edited by siddharth; 24th December 2007 at 19:49.

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    edit.
    Last edited by siddharth; 24th December 2007 at 20:18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by siddharth
    آپ

    Wanted to write Aap kaisey hain,but couldn't find a way .


    آ پ
    ک ی س ے

    ہ ی ں

    آپ کیسے ہیں ؟



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    میں اچا

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    کجھ شہر دے لوک وی ظالم سن
    کجھ مینوں مرن دا شوق وی سی

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wazeeri
    Like I said guys the best way to learn is to jump right into it.

    Type a few sentences using the info you have and you will be corrected and taught as you go along.
    What about girls? Or is this section like an exclusive, male-only domain?


    Imran Khan but Immanuel Kant

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    مےرا بآت

    guys i am a learner ,apologies in advance if i commit any huge error resulting in any sort of abusive word

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    Quote Originally Posted by siddharth
    مےرا بآت

    guys i am a learner ,apologies in advance if i commit any huge error resulting in any sort of abusive word
    ساتہ میں انگریزی میں بہی لکہیّے
    If you are not sure then plewase also write it in roman urdu or english too so it becomes easier to understand and not a guessing game

    people will be carefull answering your question because the answer might mean approval of marriage or something
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    Quote Originally Posted by 12thMan
    ساتہ میں انگریزی میں بہی لکہیّے
    If you are not sure then plewase also write it in roman urdu or english too so it becomes easier to understand and not a guessing game

    people will be carefull answering your question because the answer might mean approval of marriage or something
    Should i edit my post

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    Quote Originally Posted by filosofee
    What about girls? Or is this section like an exclusive, male-only domain?
    I am not sure about UK....but here in US, even girls refer to each other as "guys".....as in,
    ....you guys wanna go to movies?
    ....what you guys are doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by filosofee
    What about girls? Or is this section like an exclusive, male-only domain?
    __________________
    We'll make a special exception for you as you are on the Mods team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wazeeri
    We'll make a special exception for you as
    Why thank you!



    W63L35: was kidding with my question but thanks anyway for being inclusive


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    How to use ''E''(pronouncing) as in Izzat or Kisi se....

    ''u'' .....as in Uddo ,then.....ooper

    "I''(pronouncing ) as in......Aitraaz.

    ''o'' as in Ho ....then Aur ....

    Thanks .

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    ah a good question siddhhart

    izzat is written:

    ع ز ت عزت



    ooper is written:

    اُ و پ ر اُوپر


    aitraaz is written:

    ا ع ت ر ا ض اعتراض

    ho is written:

    ہ و ہو

    aur is written:

    ا و ر اور

    kissee sey is written:

    ک س ی س ے کسی سے
    Last edited by TAK; 25th December 2007 at 15:00.



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    Quote Originally Posted by filosofee
    W63L35: was kidding with my question but thanks anyway for being inclusive
    I did notice the simile but still clarified for a few PPers who tend to take things/word literally!

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    ٹاک بہت دنیاوآڈ

    I wrote (tried) Tak bahut dhanyavaad . Was it correct ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by siddharth
    ٹاک بہت دنیاوآڈ
    Kamaal kardi hai, Siddarth. Shabaash , keep learning Urdu .

    By the way, always type in Roman Urdu as well so that we can get the clearer picture of what you meant exactly . You are a quick learner but sometimes one doesn´t understand what you typed.
    Last edited by DHONI183; 25th December 2007 at 20:57.


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    Now that Siddarth has also learnt how to read/type Urdu it will be difficult for our poster The_Game to get away with after typing anything against them .


    "It sounds like you have a great strength of character and strong will" - Ellyse Perry about me.

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    I am learning .But the trouble is i can't read properly.i understood the letters .

    But when i write them together ,it becomes another word in look and shape .This will take some time ,i know .

    Any way thanks for the encouragement and support guys .i found this learning so interesting and fascinating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHONI183
    Now that Siddarth has also learnt how to read/type Urdu it will be difficult for our poster The_Game to get away with after typing anything against them .
    .Game can continue his gaaliyaan ,i haven't learn to read yet .

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    Quote Originally Posted by siddharth

    I wrote (tried) Tak bahut dhanyavaad . Was it correct ?
    Sid.....you are amazing. I am impressed! Very close.....but here is the correct one;

    ٹاک بہت دھنیا وآد
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    Quote Originally Posted by siddharth
    I am learning .But the trouble is i can't read properly.i understood the letters .

    But when i write them together ,it becomes another word in look and shape .This will take some time ,i know .

    Any way thanks for the encouragement and support guys .i found this learning so interesting and fascinating.
    very very impressive yaar, i have no idea what "dhanyavaad " means??

    i hope you are being nice ???



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    Quote Originally Posted by TAK
    very very impressive yaar, i have no idea what "dhanyavaad " means??

    i hope you are being nice ???
    Dhanyavaad means ''thanks''

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    کامآز کار ڑعی

    Kamaal Kar diya .

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    ک م ا ل

    ک ر

    د ی ا

    کمال کر دیا
    Last edited by TAK; 26th December 2007 at 22:13.



    کجھ شہر دے لوک وی ظالم سن
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAK
    ک م ا ل

    ک ر

    د ی ا

    کمال کر دیا
    This is the correct way ,okay .

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    Siddharath...........a little quiz for you?


    ٹیندولکر، گنگولی، ڈریوڈ، شاہ رخ خان، بنگلور
    سدھارتھ،بھارت،شاہدآفریدی،ممبئی،وسیم جعفر

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    ^^
    ,is this a ''little '' quiz .
    Last edited by W63L35; 26th December 2007 at 23:04.

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    there are:

    4 indian cricketsr

    1 pakistani crickter

    2 indian cities

    1 bollywood star

    and and 1 obscure pp poster



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    Quote Originally Posted by siddharth
    ^^
    ,is this a ''little '' quiz .


    Gave you a lot of choices to work on!

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    I think i need one month time

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    Quote Originally Posted by siddharth
    I think i need one month time

    OK....how much time ONE word of YOUR choice will take?

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    first one first:

    ٹ ی ن د و ل ک ر



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    first one first:

    ٹ ی ن د و ل ک ر

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    پرچی چل رھی ھے؟؟؟

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    کچھ مدد درکار ہے یار !



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    Quote Originally Posted by TAK
    first one first:

    ٹ ی ن د و ل ک ر
    This is nice .i need these elaborate explainations .

    I am trying to write it on a paper but to combine letters and to split the word are quite difficult .

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    Quote Originally Posted by siddharth
    This is nice .i need these elaborate explainations .

    I am trying to write it on a paper but to combine letters and to split the word are quite difficult .
    O´ ho´ Siddarth!!!! It´s name of the man for whom you almost fight daily here on PP ........ Got it ??????????


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    Quote Originally Posted by DHONI183
    O´ ho´ Siddarth!!!! It´s name of the man for whom you almost fight daily here on PP ........ Got it ??????????
    Man ,i got that .

    Moreover busy nowadays.Didn't revise my urdu lessons masters .Please don't punish me .

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    Quote Originally Posted by siddharth
    Man ,i got that .

    Moreover busy nowadays.Didn't revise my urdu lessons masters .Please don't punish me .
    You must be punished as this is the part of learning anything in Pakistan (and perhaps in India, too) .


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    Quote Originally Posted by W63L35
    Siddharath...........a little quiz for you?
    [RIGHT]

    ٹیندولکر، گنگولی، ڈریوڈ، شاہ رخ خان، بنگلور
    Tendulkar ,Kapil dev ,Dravid ,Zaheer Khan ,?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by siddharth
    Tendulkar ,Kapil dev ,Dravid ,Zaheer Khan ,?.


    Which one which!!!
    BTW.....you got two out of 4 right! Thats pretty good!

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    I wrote in the order itself . .Let me learn the way to combine the letters ,otherwise i can't read .

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    wow i am in love with this thread. might as well surprise my grandfather by learning a little urdu. Guys, one question can we write words like school, stool in urdu.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nikred
    wow i am in love with this thread. might as well surprise my grandfather by learning a little urdu. Guys, one question can we write words like school, stool in urdu.
    school

    اسکول

    stool

    اسٹول


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    Quote Originally Posted by siddharth
    How many alphabets are there in urdu ?
    37
    Quote Originally Posted by siddharth
    I am learning .But the trouble is i can't read properly.i understood the letters .

    But when i write them together ,it becomes another word in look and shape .This will take some time ,i know .

    Any way thanks for the encouragement and support guys .i found this learning so interesting and fascinating.
    Siddharth,

    The most important thing is that almost each of 37 alphabets in urdu have 4 forms in which they can appear in a word and they are:

    1. Initial This is when an alphabet is the first alphabet in a word but it is attached to the second alphabet.
    2. MedialThis is when an alphabet is present some where in between 2 alphabets and it is attached to both the preceding and the leading alphabet.
    3. Final This is when an alphabet is the last alphabet in a word but it is attached to the second last alphabet.
    4. DetachedThis is when an alphabet is staying independent and is appearing in its truest form


    Check the link for all the forms in which the alphabets appear

    http://www.unics.uni-hannover.de/nht...-alphabet.html


    Best Regards,

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    why is that that a lot of the vowel marks are omitted. For instance, zer, pesh. Is this only for printing or are these also omitted when writing by hand.

    Thanks

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    because an urdu reader can predict the vowel sounds without need for them to be written, it's not very often they are written and then only if there is a degree about the word

    bit like the quran, the zabar zair pesh are written when the quran is for a non-arab reader, whilst qurans for arabs are minus the zabar zair pesh



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    I desperately need to learn Urdu...can speak it...read it bit, too but have problems in writing
    n my question is y cant we have zabar zer paish in urdu ?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwEeT CaNdY
    I desperately need to learn Urdu...can speak it...read it bit, too but have problems in writing
    n my question is y cant we have zabar zer paish in urdu ?????
    we do have zabar zer and paish in urdu.

    waise those who can read quran properly, can learn reading urdu easily.


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    I'm bilingual (English and Spanish with some passable French) but I have massive respect for people who not only are bilingual but are so in a different alphabet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OZGOD
    I'm bilingual (English and Spanish with some passable French) but I have massive respect for people who not only are bilingual but are so in a different alphabet.
    como estas amigo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bablu_khan
    como estas amigo?
    we only talk in grammar school urdu here. Cut down on the advanced literary graduate koo koo stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by bablu_khan
    como estas amigo?
    Esta bien, trabajando mucho, y tu?


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    Quote Originally Posted by OZGOD
    Esta bien, trabajando mucho, y tu?
    spendo timeo en work mucho but trabajo poco
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