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  1. #1121
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    Was under the wrong impression he matured and was at prime and expected to do what kohli did, score (in test innings!) impactful runs. Not only was he a dud but got runout twice costing India the series, this inspite of the stupid sekection from kohli. Especially 1st innings of 2nd test, India could have scored 100 runs lead which would have made a see saw of a match than the tame surrender of batsmen sans kohli. Pathetic, he should be given the same treatment as rahane was given. Scoring 40 out of 150 balls is good if you are looking to save matches, not win them..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ind_win View Post
    Was under the wrong impression he matured and was at prime and expected to do what kohli did, score (in test innings!) impactful runs. Not only was he a dud but got runout twice costing India the series, this inspite of the stupid sekection from kohli. Especially 1st innings of 2nd test, India could have scored 100 runs lead which would have made a see saw of a match than the tame surrender of batsmen sans kohli. Pathetic, he should be given the same treatment as rahane was given. Scoring 40 out of 150 balls is good if you are looking to save matches, not win them..
    If he did not score that 50 in the first innings in 3rd game we wouldn't have won that game but feel free to ignore that and continue your hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagatk View Post
    If he did not score that 50 in the first innings in 3rd game we wouldn't have won that game but feel free to ignore that and continue your hate.
    I am the 1st person to acknowledge if a player performs to his team's cause..his runouts and dismal 1st match,(considering that he plays this format alone makes me expect him to perform more frequently or maturely)...and as for the 50 even vijay scored 25 from 120 or so balls. I rate both playes' innings as good. Plus he is on the 2nd or 3rd leg of most tours , I should expect to put garlands to his portrait? As for hate, it is not the right word as I was expecting so much from him, if you scroll to top of page ir see my previous posts, I imagined him to be the #1 batsman of the team and as for me, his position is up for grabs in 1-1.5 years time for another performing or worthy guy. You can anything, but his strike rate and scoring shots have to be improved. More so when both vijay and 2nd opener are non absent in scoring. One good ball and 140 ball 25 is wasted...defend but improve strike rate or let go your position is my take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ind_win View Post
    I am the 1st person to acknowledge if a player performs to his team's cause..his runouts and dismal 1st match,(considering that he plays this format alone makes me expect him to perform more frequently or maturely)...and as for the 50 even vijay scored 25 from 120 or so balls. I rate both playes' innings as good. Plus he is on the 2nd or 3rd leg of most tours , I should expect to put garlands to his portrait? As for hate, it is not the right word as I was expecting so much from him, if you scroll to top of page ir see my previous posts, I imagined him to be the #1 batsman of the team and as for me, his position is up for grabs in 1-1.5 years time for another performing or worthy guy. You can anything, but his strike rate and scoring shots have to be improved. More so when both vijay and 2nd opener are non absent in scoring. One good ball and 140 ball 25 is wasted...defend but improve strike rate or let go your position is my take.
    This is what happens when people think test is like t-20, it is a test match you don't need a good strike rate you need runs, so what if he scored 1 run off 50+ balls this isn't a LoI the runs count not the balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagatk View Post
    This is what happens when people think test is like t-20, it is a test match you don't need a good strike rate you need runs, so what if he scored 1 run off 50+ balls this isn't a LoI the runs count not the balls.
    This is what happens when people imagine to know to know all and become judgmental. I have my opinion and I stick by that and I am not inflexible to cricket's time demands. If this 40 ball 150 continues, test cricket will see its eventual death and also team will not win matches. People may open, continue, keep on commenting on my comment. I choose to ignore this thread and such people from now on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ind_win View Post
    This is what happens when people imagine to know to know all and become judgmental. I have my opinion and I stick by that and I am not inflexible to cricket's time demands. If this 40 ball 150 continues, test cricket will see its eventual death and also team will not win matches. People may open, continue, keep on commenting on my comment. I choose to ignore this thread and such people from now on.
    So in a game that finished in 3 days and a grand total of 4 batsman got past 50 your issue is strike rate but when someone points it out they are judgemental.

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    Definitely been below par overseas but still one of the best Test batsmen India has to offer. At worst he will be India's Mahela Jayawardene playing incredible match changing innings in Asia while being below par overseas, definitely not enough to make it to the ATG level but still a very very good level to be.

    Good to see that he is playing county this season as well, a good England tour would go a long way in changing perceptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagatk View Post
    This is what happens when people think test is like t-20, it is a test match you don't need a good strike rate you need runs, so what if he scored 1 run off 50 balls this isn't a LoI the runs count not the balls.
    Your point is right if he was scoring 70 or 80 if not hundred, he is literally not doing anything . Dravid strike rate was also low but nobody complained because he made it count. On a tough seaming wicket you can't stay there, one ball will get you out, you need to be positive . Not asking him to play blinder or faster but at least try to get single if it is in your zone.
    My problem is that for a no. 3 he don't know his zone. He runs when he don't have to and sometimes bogs down so much that start playing it dead even when ball is on middle or middle leg stump.
    His issues are technical, he never look settle
    While playing on spin pitches , with low strike rate he look settled.
    Last edited by Navdeep Srivastava; 2nd February 2018 at 16:48.

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    Right now India may be facing all time low batting resource, so Pujara place is safe for two year.
    What we can do it to let Pujara and Vijay open , they can blunt new ball by making 180 ball 50 run. And then Rahul , Kohli , Rahane can score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    In which professional sport do you believe the players choose their fans over money? Do tell...
    IPL in India

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    Pujara should sign up with one of the English counties so that he can get used to English conditions and pitches before India begin their tour later this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gani999 View Post
    Pujara should sign up with one of the English counties so that he can get used to English conditions and pitches before India begin their tour later this year.
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    Cheteshwar Pujara: I have a lot to offer in limited-overs cricket

    2018 will be the fourth year on a trot that Cheteshwar Pujara will miss IPL. In the IPL Auction 2018, Pujara went unsold again. Pujara has played 30 matches in the IPL, scoring 390 runs at 20.52 and his strike rate is below 100. He has played 58 T20s, has scored at 25.48 and has managed a strike rate just above 105. It has been over a year since he played a T20.

    In contrast to his dismal T20 record, Pujara despite the label of ‘Test specialist’ has excellent numbers in List A cricket. He has 3,804 runs at 54.34 in List A cricket and he believes he has a lot to offer in shorter formats.

    Pujara also believes that not being able to seal IPL deal has got a lot to do with ‘public perceptions’.

    “Perception I would say has played a major role. If you check my performance in List A and T20s, I still have a lot to offer in shorter formats. I am not at all worried as I know my opportunity would come at some point of time,” a hopeful Pujara told PTI.

    Missing out on the IPL, Pujara will be playing county cricket for Yorkshire in the 2018 season.

    http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/c...cricket-687667


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Cheteshwar Pujara: I have a lot to offer in limited-overs cricket

    2018 will be the fourth year on a trot that Cheteshwar Pujara will miss IPL. In the IPL Auction 2018, Pujara went unsold again. Pujara has played 30 matches in the IPL, scoring 390 runs at 20.52 and his strike rate is below 100. He has played 58 T20s, has scored at 25.48 and has managed a strike rate just above 105. It has been over a year since he played a T20.

    In contrast to his dismal T20 record, Pujara despite the label of ‘Test specialist’ has excellent numbers in List A cricket. He has 3,804 runs at 54.34 in List A cricket and he believes he has a lot to offer in shorter formats.

    Pujara also believes that not being able to seal IPL deal has got a lot to do with ‘public perceptions’.

    “Perception I would say has played a major role. If you check my performance in List A and T20s, I still have a lot to offer in shorter formats. I am not at all worried as I know my opportunity would come at some point of time,” a hopeful Pujara told PTI.

    Missing out on the IPL, Pujara will be playing county cricket for Yorkshire in the 2018 season.

    http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/c...cricket-687667
    Yea right lol. As it is we are trying hard to get rid of Rahane.

  15. #1135
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    One dayers should have players with multiple gears right through the line up. These days high scoring is the order of the day. Very rarely you get juicy helpful wickets. You don't pick team for that. If you don't have more than 2 gears you are pretty much useless. You need atleast 4 gears , 5th, 6th even better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Cheteshwar Pujara: I have a lot to offer in limited-overs cricket

    2018 will be the fourth year on a trot that Cheteshwar Pujara will miss IPL. In the IPL Auction 2018, Pujara went unsold again. Pujara has played 30 matches in the IPL, scoring 390 runs at 20.52 and his strike rate is below 100. He has played 58 T20s, has scored at 25.48 and has managed a strike rate just above 105. It has been over a year since he played a T20.

    In contrast to his dismal T20 record, Pujara despite the label of ‘Test specialist’ has excellent numbers in List A cricket. He has 3,804 runs at 54.34 in List A cricket and he believes he has a lot to offer in shorter formats.

    Pujara also believes that not being able to seal IPL deal has got a lot to do with ‘public perceptions’.

    “Perception I would say has played a major role. If you check my performance in List A and T20s, I still have a lot to offer in shorter formats. I am not at all worried as I know my opportunity would come at some point of time,” a hopeful Pujara told PTI.

    Missing out on the IPL, Pujara will be playing county cricket for Yorkshire in the 2018 season.

    http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/c...cricket-687667
    Forget about Limited Overs,He needs to worry about his place in Test Side.One more bad series in england,Then he is probably going to be dropped from Tests as well.

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    Thanks but no thanks. Pujara should stick to Test cricket only for India. Pujara has excellent List A record (averages 50+ I think?) but we don't need him in ODI team. We already are carrying Rahane in the squad who plays similar type of cricket. Pujara is a big hitter and the only spot we have open at the moment is of number 4 or 6, both not suited to Pujara's style of play.

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    He has nothing to offer in LOIs
    He simply isn't needed in shorter formats of game


    We will never surrender. We win or we die. And don't think it stops there. You will have the next generation to fight; and after the next, the next.

    OMAR MUKHTAR

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    County season has started, Pujara off to a poor start, 2(15) for Yorkshire vs Nottinghamshire

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    Pujara at risk of being dropped by Yorks, needs a big knock 2nd innings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adijazz1706 View Post
    Pujara at risk of being dropped by Yorks, needs a big knock 2nd innings
    Looks like. Yorkshire is a top team and going by his contribution, Pujara doesn’t deserve a place.
    If he continues to expose himself in these conditions, wont be surprised if Kohli also drops him for a few tests in England.

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    Kind of depressing, from an Indian POV, to see how Pujara’s career has developed - sure he’s great at home (and in Sri Lanka) but he’s failed in Australia, England, New Zealand, South Africa and the West Indies. The upcoming test series is going to be a huge one for him. He also needs to start being a bit more positive when batting - he gets bogged down way too often.

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    What is his overall record like in County? Like the batting average and number of innings ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    Looks like. Yorkshire is a top team and going by his contribution, Pujara doesn’t deserve a place.
    If he continues to expose himself in these conditions, wont be surprised if Kohli also drops him for a few tests in England.
    And replace Pujara with who exactly in India? Vijay has regressed too and Dhawan is always in and out. Pujara will get the support. I must say, India's test top 3 are very average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhony View Post
    And replace Pujara with who exactly in India? Vijay has regressed too and Dhawan is always in and out. Pujara will get the support. I must say, India's test top 3 are very average.
    Rohit Sharma. Kohli loves him.

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    Pujara in again, 321 to get, 49/1

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhony View Post
    And replace Pujara with who exactly in India? Vijay has regressed too and Dhawan is always in and out. Pujara will get the support. I must say, India's test top 3 are very average.
    Pujara and Vijay are starters. So either of them can't replace other. Both are pretty bad now. A young replacement can't do worse than that. Anyway with Kaptaan Kohli tactics , India are gonna get pummelled.

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    It's sad to see that two of favourite batsmen Pujara and Vijay are struggling with form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhony View Post
    And replace Pujara with who exactly in India? Vijay has regressed too and Dhawan is always in and out. Pujara will get the support. I must say, India's test top 3 are very average.
    We do have some youngsters like Prithvi Shaw, Subham Gill etc. who may come good.

    But Pujara has earned a few more chances with the Indian team (in spite of his 2 run outs in SA which may very well have cost India the series).

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    Out for 6, Ishant has more runs in 1 innings than Pujara in 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adijazz1706 View Post
    Out for 6, Ishant has more runs in 1 innings than Pujara in 4
    It is time India realise his problem as a matter of lack of skill rather than hoping he will come good.

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    As much as I like Pujara, if he doesn't score runs during the next overseas cycle, he needs to be dropped. The excuses of 'blunting the new ball' or 'at least he is getting starts' won't cut it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    We do have some youngsters like Prithvi Shaw, Subham Gill etc. who may come good.

    But Pujara has earned a few more chances with the Indian team (in spite of his 2 run outs in SA which may very well have cost India the series).
    They still need FC experience. Yes, Pujara has earned more chances.

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    Unless he turns around his wretched form in the upcoming matches, I think we are better served to not pick Pujara in the Test 11. He's playing his third season of county cricket and except for scoring runs end of summer, hasn't done much. We should much rather try a younger batsman in his place (no Rohits and Rainas please). Have a sense Dinesh Karthik may become a popular choice (did well in England in 2007!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahul1 View Post
    As much as I like Pujara, if he doesn't score runs during the next overseas cycle, he needs to be dropped. The excuses of 'blunting the new ball' or 'at least he is getting starts' won't cut it now.
    He was dropped not too long ago but India missed him. Rahul, Vijay, Dhawan and Pujara are fighting for top 3 slots. Dhawan doesn't evoke much confidence abroad, Vijay has gone from above to below average. Unless there is a viable alternative, Pujara will stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhony View Post
    He was dropped not too long ago but India missed him. Rahul, Vijay, Dhawan and Pujara are fighting for top 3 slots. Dhawan doesn't evoke much confidence abroad, Vijay has gone from above to below average. Unless there is a viable alternative, Pujara will stay.
    Blunting the new ball without scoring runs and getting out . Invariably other new ball comes without many runs on the board. So not that effective. So many blunters go on to score big runs by spending whole 2 days. Azhar Ali , Cook etc. Pujara does blunt for some time and gets out cheaply.

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    I am afraid of India's batting now.

    Pujara was at Bradmanesque level in Asia but was way below par in South Africa, Rahul also was terrible in SA and I am not sure if Vijay is past his peak or still has in him.

    With this we come down to Kohli and Rahane and all of a sudden it looks like a team which felt like an ATG lineup with Vijay, Rahul, Pujara, Kohli and Rahane is now looking like a team dependent on one man- Virat Kohli.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    I am afraid of India's batting now.

    Pujara was at Bradmanesque level in Asia but was way below par in South Africa, Rahul also was terrible in SA and I am not sure if Vijay is past his peak or still has in him.

    With this we come down to Kohli and Rahane and all of a sudden it looks like a team which felt like an ATG lineup with Vijay, Rahul, Pujara, Kohli and Rahane is now looking like a team dependent on one man- Virat Kohli.
    Rahul played only one match in SA and that too on a treacherous Joburg pitch. So he should be given more chances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WengerOut View Post
    Rahul played only one match in SA and that too on a treacherous Joburg pitch. So he should be given more chances.
    played 2 match

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage View Post
    played 2 match
    Is it ?? My bad then. Still some chances for him to prove is needed .

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    Quote Originally Posted by WengerOut View Post
    Is it ?? My bad then. Still some chances for him to prove is needed .
    I absolutely don't mind picking Rahul over Dhawan or Pujara(if he fails in first 2 or 3 tests).Dhawan might struggle badly in England (judging by his technique).

    Tbh I thought Picking Dhawan over Rahul in SA would've been more sensible option.I was entertained by the thought of Dhawan replicating even 50% of what Warner did in SA(2014).

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    Quote Originally Posted by WengerOut View Post
    Is it ?? My bad then. Still some chances for him to prove is needed .
    Batting is quite unstable now. Kohli hasn't repeated a playing XI again in any single match till now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    Batting is quite unstable now. Kohli hasn't repeated a playing XI again in any single match till now.
    There is no way Vijay and Pujara can both play now in the team. Both of them are out of depth and score will not move.

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    Another failure.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8...sion-one-2018/

    His county scores so far:

    2, 18, 7, 6, 9, 41, 17, 0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbar Singh View Post
    Another failure.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8...sion-one-2018/

    His county scores so far:

    2, 18, 7, 6, 9, 41, 17, 0.
    Time to drop him from the test team. I've had enough of the 'ball blunting' excuse. I would prefer to see 200 in the runs scored column instead of ball faced column while scoring 20 runs.

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    It is ridiculous that this guy was batting like a Bradman on Asian pitches and has turned into a tailenders once again as soon as he stepped outside Asia.

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    Pujara shouldn't bat at 3 in overseas tests. I would move him to open where his blocking will be of use and put Rahane at 3. Rahane is good against lateral movement and batting at 3 will mean he can avoid spin which is his weakness.

    Pujara dead batting will cost India overseas and put more pressure on the team. If he opens and dead bats he can see off the new ball.

    India need him to step up.

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    What has Rahane been doing for the past month or so? With Pujara proving that he's a HTB, Kohli having a poor record in England and the rest of the batting unsettled, Rahane will have to become India's main man once again.

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    Will Pujara play the home test against Afghanistan or stay in England? It would probably be better for him to get some runs behind him even if they come in India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Will Pujara play the home test against Afghanistan or stay in England? It would probably be better for him to get some runs behind him even if they come in India.
    Yes he’s coming back to India to play the one off test. A silly decision by the BCCI imo.

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