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4th February 2012, 21:38 #6161
After you ruined YK congrat thread, you tried your best to ruin YK interview thread with this comment but... I am bringing it here;
You did not expect a lot of things .....didn't you!
You didn't expect Malik to fail so many times. (38 times Sep 29, 2009).
You didn't expect Malik to get kicked out of the team so many times.
You didn't expect Malik to carry drinks under Misbah.
etc. etc. etc.
Unfortunately nobody takes getting kicked out of the team...failures after failures... is also not taken seriously by the jokers like Ilyas who keep selecting ... because either they don't know anything about selection
or PPP's govt is forcing them.
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4th February 2012, 21:41 #6162
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4th February 2012, 21:48 #6163
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4th February 2012, 22:00 #6164
here are few:
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...&postcount=242
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...&postcount=449
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...&postcount=470
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...&postcount=586
but i am not so keen abt YK...so i'll leave with that.
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4th February 2012, 22:13 #6165
That was March 14, 2010......
There have been 80 Test matches.... 255 ODIs and 68 T20s since that date. UPDATE them and then we'll talk... I did not even open all the links...
Make sure you include today's once-in-life-time innings ..... which got you burning in the first place.
Make sure you include 2010 season's brilliant 200s played by your hero in England.Last edited by W63L35; 4th February 2012 at 22:15.
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4th February 2012, 22:19 #6166
July 2010
next update due on July 2013
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4th February 2012, 22:22 #6167
Last edited by W63L35; 4th February 2012 at 22:24.
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4th February 2012, 22:26 #6168
posted on March 2010
"and how many under twenty scores?
45% of the times Mr YK failed to cross 25.
Here is that SMALL list:
12
8
2
0
23
4
2
23
0
4
1
17
0
19
5
0
5
4
8
1
2
0
14
17
23
9
1
0
0
7
0
0
8
9
11
20
8
0
6
3
7
23
0
25
3
0
2
19
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4th February 2012, 22:27 #6169
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4th February 2012, 22:31 #6170
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4th February 2012, 22:37 #6171
Guys, I am consistent on my stand about YK...so it's not related to his today's 100.
In fact I am glad that he is just validating my stand.
He may end up being the highest scorer of the series (already got the highest average) even after below average performance in other innings and thats my point that he is a very unreliable and risky inclusion for #3 (now at #4)Last edited by Black Zero; 4th February 2012 at 22:38.
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4th February 2012, 22:41 #6172
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Younis Khan is a team man who can inspire our team and youngsters.
Shoaib Malik does not have the ability to do so.
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4th February 2012, 22:45 #6173
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4th February 2012, 22:45 #6174
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The fact that you are comparing YK to Malik shows what kind of IQ you have.
Please, if you want to save any credibility please send the mods a PM and tell them you want your account deactivated.
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4th February 2012, 22:48 #6175
Who are you BULL-$hitting with your false, outdated and fabricated stats....not to mention your blatant lies.
Here is the latest and greatest...updated/current stats... because I did not make them... here is where I got the data from;
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting
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4th February 2012, 22:49 #6176
Welcome to PP
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...&postcount=470
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4th February 2012, 22:50 #6177
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4th February 2012, 22:51 #6178
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4th February 2012, 22:52 #6179
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4th February 2012, 22:55 #6180
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lol BZ in that post you were ********** about Malik not getting the same chances at YK
The guy just had like 10 ODI matches to prove himself. He failed against the likes of Bangladesh trololol If he can't get a run in ODI matches against BANGLADESH, Why should he get a place in a test team where it is much harder to get runs in the first place and on top of that facing much better opposition.
Please, you are a laughing stock on this forum. You should draw the line somewhere and stop debating this issue.
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4th February 2012, 22:58 #6181
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4th February 2012, 23:04 #6182
Some serious jalan going on today. What happened? I went to bed at tea.
we will not miss a 'never will be' like Malik. Drop Him For Good.
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4th February 2012, 23:05 #6183
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true true, you have a good point...forgive me BZ, put those suicide thoughts to one side for the moment..we need you to continue debating
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4th February 2012, 23:15 #6184
As you wanted me to do the math again so I want to make it extra embarrassing for YK fans (Not against YK)
Here are numbers for less than 10 runs vs 10 or more against major teams:
YK: 30.83%
Malik: 26.92%
it's a very embarrassing situation for a #3 batsman, who is supposed to provide foundation... when comparing with a #6/7 player.
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4th February 2012, 23:16 #6185
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4th February 2012, 23:18 #6186
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4th February 2012, 23:21 #6187
I feel like singing this song for Younus right now
Zehar hai ke pyaar hai, teri century Younus? (considering the amount of love and hate it has brought)
Hammad Azam - Remember the name !
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5th February 2012, 00:38 #6188
Post 6194 mein table ka jawab detay huay lajja aati hai???
But then again, if you knew the meaning of lajja, you wouldn't be posting here.
First you bring up 25 run or less innings..... I prove to a complete and blatant liar..... now (without even mentioning my reply about <25 runs %) you bring up 10 runs or less innings!
Answer to my <25 runs post above .....then I'll embarrass you one more time.... which would approximately 5285th time!
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5th February 2012, 00:47 #6189
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5th February 2012, 04:09 #6190
You missed i said I wanted data to be extra embarrassing for YK worshipers... (lowered the bar to reaching double digit for a supposed GREAT/LEGEND #3 batsman)
YK failed to reach double-digit 30% of the times...
Isn't embarrassing?
Ok, I excluded every other position but #3
and failure %age increases to 32.9% (it's 1/3 of times)
Isn't embarrassing?
If not, then congratulation as
"You are shame-proof"
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5th February 2012, 04:16 #6191
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5th February 2012, 04:20 #6192
With every passing series Maliks task of matching YK is getting harder and harder.
18 hundreds in 41 games.
Surely Malik can do it in his sleep.
we will not miss a 'never will be' like Malik. Drop Him For Good.
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5th February 2012, 04:23 #6193
I can't believe that someone really wants to make some competition between Younus Khan and Shoaib Malik, that's like comparing an insignificant rock to a towering mountain.
Black Zero, waiting for your analysis on how Imran Farhat is Don Bradman's left-handed twin.
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5th February 2012, 04:27 #6194
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5th February 2012, 04:33 #6195
I care less about YK or Farhat (though Farhat won a test against NZL in NZL while as per MoYO, YK chickened-out)
If you go through the above posts, you would know that I was practically forced to present YK's stats...
I do not know if you are YK fan or not ...if you are, would you mind defending:
"1/3 times failed to reach double-digit while playing at #3"
If you are not his fan, then pass on...
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5th February 2012, 04:40 #6196
Thanks.
but let me add:
- both are not talented/gifted
- rely on hardwork/determination
- Good against spinners (who is better, depends on the day)
- YK, less likely to settle, but once settle, will most likely to score big while Malik most like to settle but least likely to score big.
- Both are FTB
- Both can't play seam or swing (i.e. conditions favoring pace bowlers) Though overall Malik is better.
- Both are good runner (also good fielder)
- Both got similar career path
- YK is the product of Parchi while SM came through real hardwork.
and many more like if we compensate for batting positions, stats of YK and Malik are extremely extremely similar.Last edited by Black Zero; 5th February 2012 at 04:43.
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5th February 2012, 04:42 #6197YK is the product of Parchi while SM came through real hardwork.
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5th February 2012, 04:46 #6198
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5th February 2012, 04:50 #6199
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5th February 2012, 04:54 #6200
Right, not been in here before, and will post just the once. First a few questions -
How does a support thread for Shoaib Malik reach 6,000 posts?
How does a support thread for Shoaib Malik reach 6 posts?
How does a support thread for Shoaib Malik...exist at all?
I don't know why either side of the argument has dedicated their time or energy to this mammoth thread. Not just a bad player but a forgettable and redundant one.
He's darn awful. I have never met a single person who has rated him. Legit one of the worst players to be selected for 30+ tests. Ever. What a waste of time.
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5th February 2012, 04:57 #6201
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5th February 2012, 04:59 #6202
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...d.php?t=146745
Now UK is at 9th place.
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5th February 2012, 05:00 #6203
This is a fun thread. Not to be taken seriously.
we will not miss a 'never will be' like Malik. Drop Him For Good.
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5th February 2012, 05:03 #6204
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5th February 2012, 05:08 #6205
I'm not a 'fan' of any individual, only the team matters, as cricket should be, though I would have succumbed to Imran Khan's charms if I was born some time earlier
In fact, until recently, I was FOR Shoaib Malik's inclusion as an ODI all-rounder (one of those who thought that he should have replaced Younis Khan for the WC) BUT to compare him with Younus Khan in Test cricket (as a captain and/or player) isn't serious, honestly, and seems very random.Last edited by akheR; 5th February 2012 at 05:13.
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5th February 2012, 05:21 #6206
Hopefully Malik will not be selected. If he does, let´s hope he performs for the sake of Pakistan. Simple. We cannot hope for Pakistan to lose just because of ONE player we dislike.
Lo chali he ab tehreek ke hoga theek ye pyara Pakistan
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5th February 2012, 05:25 #6207
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5th February 2012, 05:30 #6208
Last edited by Black Zero; 5th February 2012 at 05:33.
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5th February 2012, 05:32 #6209
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5th February 2012, 05:36 #6210
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5th February 2012, 05:38 #6211
I'll wait for 30 mins then I'll start watching Money Ball
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5th February 2012, 05:41 #6212
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5th February 2012, 05:42 #6213
I think Moderators should seriously consider deleting this stupid thread.
I know certain posters like to argue with BZ just for the
sake of it and that they find his humilation quite
entertaining. But I'm sure players and maybe officials come to this site and it's disgraceful that there is a thread this big titled 'Support SM'.
Also, isn't it a little uncomfortable that someone who is clearly not of sound mind is being egged on here?Last edited by IMMY69; 5th February 2012 at 05:43.
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5th February 2012, 05:46 #6214
lolz @ hypocrite with 80+ posts in the thread.
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5th February 2012, 05:50 #6215
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I support every player wearing, who wore the green shirt.
But unfortunately, SM is history now. Beside that he was always very average outside SC conditions.
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5th February 2012, 05:58 #6216
average observation
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting
p.s. WL please respond to anyone who speak ill of Malik, Thanks. (I have to watch Money Ball)Last edited by Black Zero; 5th February 2012 at 06:00.
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5th February 2012, 06:11 #6217
If you want to find out who is shameless, click on my signature and you'll get a statistical proof ...who OTHER people think is shameless ... instead just one person opinion who can not back up his opinion with the damn data.
You want the damn data.... click on my signature and you'll see who is PROVEN shameless.
Then.... you bring in YK's 0-25 innings.... and I threw the table on face proving you blatant liar/wrong/fabricator etc etc and ..... being the shameless person you are, you change the criteria to 10 run or less.
Being the shameless person you are, you still have not replied to my table about 0-25 scores.....and shamelessly changed the criteria to 0-10 runs.
Look.... I am going to embarrass you ONE more time. Watch and cry.....
Here is where I got the data from.....
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting
You were whining about comparing #3 to #6..... now watch where Umar Akmal and Asad Shafiq are as compared to you freaking worthless hero.
After you done crying...... please tell me... you have been emabrrased with 0-25 and 0-10 scores.... where should we go next....0-20, 0-30, 0-40, 0-49 .... take your pick!
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5th February 2012, 06:27 #6218
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5th February 2012, 06:39 #6219
Breaking NEWS
if you score 10, you already reached double digit.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting
plus there are other flaws...find yourself.
Please do not waste my time! I am watching movie.
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5th February 2012, 06:43 #6220
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5th February 2012, 07:27 #6221
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5th February 2012, 07:29 #6222
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5th February 2012, 07:30 #6223
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5th February 2012, 07:35 #6224
Because those flaws are making your Bradman only look like Richards .... not Bradman? Enlighten me on those "flaws"??
Sooooo you throwing toys out of the pram because there is difference of WHOLE ONE FREAKING RUN between NINE and TEN???
Oh ..... while you were sobbing and whinning about the difference between 9 & 10 runs, I looked at scores of (0-49) runs.... see where your Bradman stands.....
Ladies & gentlemen.... drum roll.......let another BZ-tantrum begin!
Just in case you have hard time deciphering the meaning of chart below..... with your 143 IQ, here is what it means...
Azahar Ali has failed to reach a score of minimum 50 (gotten out) 21 times.
He also has 15 scores of 50 or greater ....
Adding above two numbers ... 21+15....= 36 innings
...this meaning, if does not remain not out between 0-49,
he fails to reach 50 only 58.33% (21 out of 36) of the times.Last edited by W63L35; 5th February 2012 at 07:45.
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5th February 2012, 07:50 #6225
Is it a fair assessment that you admitting your mistake in calculation?
Is it also fair to assume that you conceded point (that YK failed to reach double-digit more than SM) as now you are not even mentioning it?
Is it a safe conclusion that you embarrassed of YK's (as he plays at #3) 1/3 times failure to reach double digit?
I hope you will never doubt me again....
P.S. it's not an embarrassing situation if you don't reach 50... but not reaching double digit 1/3 of times when you bat at #3 (number shoots to 32.9% for YKif we just consider batting at #3)
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5th February 2012, 08:00 #6226
Still whining about 9 vs 10 runs?
No comment about 0-25 runs????? Any embarrassment about that?
No comment about 0-49 runs????? Any embarrassment about that?
So the test cricket is about reaching double figures ...... not 50???
You Bradman failed to reach 50 80% of time.... isn't embarrassment to Bramdman's 10-year old fans who think their I is 143....!
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5th February 2012, 08:07 #6227
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Whether people hate him or like him, but can't live without him -
I feel for you guys. I have moved on, but you guys are still there. Take a break from this thread, you guys. LOL
So, this thread is basically recycling now.
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5th February 2012, 08:08 #6228
Reminder: SS assigned you to defend YK
Defend YK ...why he failed 1/3 times to reach double digit while playing at crucial #3?
I promise I'll defend Malik's 80% for not reaching 50, once you concede the point.
I repeat, I promise I promise I'll defend Malik's 80% for not reaching 50, once you concede the point.
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5th February 2012, 08:19 #6229
I don't have to defend .... I repeat I don't have to defend YK...... because Younis Khan is defending himself in UAE with the bat... like he always does .....
Now ...your Bradman on the other hand desperately needs somebody like you defending him based on some stupid stupid stats and the whining about difference between 9 and 10 runs..... and failing miserably. Just like he has failed in last 38 international innings!
Keep going... we are having fun... all you are doing is ... "butt-burning" (as somebody said above) yourself because of YK's phenomenal success & records....
Read and burn some more........ please;Last edited by W63L35; 5th February 2012 at 08:20.
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5th February 2012, 08:24 #6230
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W63L35 is a a test specialist. What patience!
Ghareeb saray mar gaye
Kiun kai, zinda hai bhutto zinda hai
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5th February 2012, 08:25 #6231
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5th February 2012, 08:26 #6232
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5th February 2012, 08:28 #6233
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^ malik only has 1 fan
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5th February 2012, 08:28 #6234
Wow, change of mood in few hours...
earlier asking me to back statements with data ..
and when I provided, no one is ready to defend YK...
As MM said it's recycling going on, so haters please go through this thread...ALL of your objections/complains/taunts are being addressed satisfactorily.
and if in doubt, check my signature
and
deal with it.
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5th February 2012, 08:34 #6235
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5th February 2012, 08:37 #6236
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5th February 2012, 08:48 #6237
Just in case, you are new to the thread.... HE STARTED GETTING PERSONAL first.
He posted Pinocchio's picture in reply to my thread ... and called me a liar.
BZ also hates YK & Mohammad Yousaf .... but you never mention that?? Why do lecture about Islam & hate to fans who don't want Malik in the team?
Islam teaches us to be fair Mr. Mohsin "I am the only one following Islam" Malik???
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5th February 2012, 09:23 #6238
Islam also teaches us to be fair. Do you think BZ is fair with his analyses that YK and Malik are similar test players.
And what about this post of yours?
Posted by MM in another thread.
Kevin Pietersen for me. After Ijaz Ahmed from Pakistan, who literally slaughtered Australia in both formats consistently.
The only name comes to my mind now is Pietersen. He is danger man for Australia as much as Shoaib Malik is to India. What Pietersen has achieved against South Africa and Australia (at their nations) is something Younus Khan will never able to achieve at all.
Younus Khan, supposedly to be good at slow pitches, struggled heavily against quality bowling attack recently before recent 100 century. It's kind of terrifying as the tour of South Africa will be expected at 2013 will literally traumatized Younus Khan average.
Pietersen has earned it. Although, he is expected to struggle in turner pitches as much as our batting line including Younus Khan, are expected to struggle in green pitches. Overall, Pietersen has impressed me with his ability to dominate the quality bowling attack consistently.
we will not miss a 'never will be' like Malik. Drop Him For Good.
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5th February 2012, 09:30 #6239
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5th February 2012, 09:33 #6240