A win in Misbah's lap

[>>FaHaD<<]

Lets me clear here. I do not dislike Misbah. I think he is the sort of batsman we really need as of now. He is as of now the anchor to the Pak team that every team needs.

That said, I am not quite a follower of his Captaincy. Time and again he shows to be a laid back captain.

When the players are performing the captain gets a big credit but when the players are doing bad I do not see him encouraging them enough. This to go with his defensive gameplay is not something I feel strong of.

Yesterday also, he seemed to have given up with Sanga and Jaywardanae. I know most of the captains would have but still I would have preferred him to really help in cheering up the players and keep their spirits going. He needs to be more aggressive and he needs to be more energetic.

[doctordamor]

same stupid criticism was said of inzi, yet all players who played under him always rated him as good captain who always enocuraged them. Everyone has diff way of expressing, some chose to do ala afridi, some chose to do with quiet words. What pakistani fans need to understand that in the end results matter, now how one gets them.

[Zaz]

Originally Posted by doctordamor same stupid criticism was said of inzi, yet all players who played under him always rated him as good captain who always enocuraged them. Everyone has diff way of expressing, some chose to do ala afridi, some chose to do with quiet words. What pakistani fans need to understand that in the end results matter, now how one gets them.

I think the laid back approach works better than an "afridi" approach

Nobody wants the captain in their ear constantly telling them what to do or the field being changed every ball

Misbahs done ok so far, theres things he can do better like being a bit more proactive with his field placings (he shouldve had 2 slips in to sanga at the beginning but the chance was missed) but at the end of the day we can only criticise based on results - which so far have been good

[>>FaHaD<<]

Originally Posted by Zaz I think the laid back approach works better than an "afridi" approach Nobody wants the captain in their ear constantly telling them what to do or the field being changed every ball Misbahs done ok so far, theres things he can do better like being a bit more proactive with his field placings (he shouldve had 2 slips in to sanga at the beginning but the chance was missed) but at the end of the day we can only criticise based on results - which so far have been good

So is the ONLY other alternative to the laid back approach is the afridi approach? dwell uon that

its not about being nagging and irritating but its more about raising the spirits.

I would agree that there is alot that goes around the back than what we see on TV and MAYBE afridi may be right in saying that Misbah kept telling him what to do bu MAYBE he was just defending his captaincy.

My point is simple. We may have suceeded in the past with the laid back approach and may continue to do this but then when we face a situation when we need to be metally strong we would simply fumble. Why be kanjoos or shy of being expressive. Up the spirits of your team and down the spirits of your opponents.

It is pointless getting Inzi, Immi, etc into the conversation because they played with a different set of players in their team and had alot more experience in the team.

Just a thought!

When nothing works....change the topic....AFRIDI ROX

[Shayan]

Originally Posted by >>FaHaD<< Yesterday also, he seemed to have given up with Sanga and Jaywardanae. I know most of the captains would have but still I would have preferred him to really help in cheering up the players and keep their spirits going. He needs to be more aggressive and he needs to be more energetic.

According to Afridi, Misbah kept telling them they just need one wicket and the game can change. Clearly he had not given up.

Us fans obviously come to a lot of conclusions based on what we see on TV, but there is a lot more to it than that.

[Saj]

I think his captaincy has been spot on most of the time, especially the bowling changes.

Seems to have the skill of making a bowling change that results in a wicket.

[ash 68]

from what I saw he (Misbah) was doing everything he could. Once Sanga went he also attacked with close-in fielders which dried up the singles

He is a far better captain than Afridi who is a complete hot-head

[*sallu*]

What do you mean laid back?
I think hes very proactive, he had atleast 5 men in the ring most of the time even without the powerplay overs and he kept giving all his spinners short spells instead of letting the batsmen getting used to them.

He persisted with Cheema despite him getting a phainty (in a low scoring match) and he ended up getting Tharanga and Dilshan

Also, from what Afridi said, Misbah kept saying "Guys its just a matter of one wicket"

Dunno where the OP has got this idea from lol

[PaPaPak]

Misbah is like the best captain after YK and was better than lots of other we had before hes doing a great job

[qamar84]

Originally Posted by PaPaPak Misbah is like the best captain after YK and was better than lots of other we had before hes doing a great job

+1 there will be no better option right now for pakistan except maybe hafeez

[the Great Khan]

our best captain since inzi. without a doubt and the results dont lie. Some fans just dont get it. Results matter and cirkcet is not like fottball where the captain is peripheral. The captain has to be doing something right for a team like ours to be winning.

Its all well and good having an oz or windies team where the captain can just throw the ball to warne or ambrose. Real captaincy is taking a team of untried players or a team down and out and turning them into world beaters.

for me some of the best captains have been,

imran for turning pakistan into a real force that we still are
Border for turning the aussies from being hopeless into a world class outfit
Hussein for taking a rubbish eng team from bottom to near the top.
Ganguly for inspiring a timid weak indian team.
Lloyd for creating one of the greatest sprots teams ever.

Misbah for me is in the same mold. And thats saying something!

[the Great Khan]

misbahs laid back?? guess you guys were all bachay in the inzi era..misbah is not laid back..
his bowling changes, field changes etc have been very good and at times attacking..you are being disingenuous!

[>>FaHaD<<]

Are you just acting dumb or really are? Where have I spoken of Misbah vs Afridi or Misbah vs Inzi? what does Inzi have to do with what I said!

And YES i believe misbah is laid back. I would on the contrary say he has many a times been very reluctant in bringing the fielders in to save singles, he has been reluctant to place in those slips, not wanting to chase targets etc.

but khair that is not my arguement! try reading my previous 2 posts again and try and understand what i am saying and then lets talk about it.

[ash 68]

Originally Posted by >>FaHaD<< Are you just acting dumb or really are? Where have I spoken of Misbah vs Afridi or Misbah vs Inzi? what does Inzi have to do with what I said! And YES i believe misbah is laid back. I would on the contrary say he has many a times been very reluctant in bringing the fielders in to save singles, he has been reluctant to place in those slips, not wanting to chase targets etc. but khair that is not my arguement! try reading my previous 2 posts again and try and understand what i am saying and then lets talk about it.

look again at the match and you`ll find he was far from being laid back

[the Great Khan]

Originally Posted by >>FaHaD<< Are you just acting dumb or really are? Where have I spoken of Misbah vs Afridi or Misbah vs Inzi? what does Inzi have to do with what I said! And YES i believe misbah is laid back. I would on the contrary say he has many a times been very reluctant in bringing the fielders in to save singles, he has been reluctant to place in those slips, not wanting to chase targets etc. but khair that is not my arguement! try reading my previous 2 posts again and try and understand what i am saying and then lets talk about it.

Im assuming the little teenaged hormonal outburst above was directed at me so Ill be straight to the point in case you go off the handle again.

firstly you claim Misbahs (invisible) laid back approach will cost us a match in a tight situation or pressure situation. My answer watch eysterdays match again. That was a gone cause almost and misbah as captain helped bring it back.

secondly you claim he has been reluctant to bring in fielders to save the singles, which is again not true as in the previous three matches he did both.

It seems you are of the school that likes to see attacking cricket all the time. That is not how you play the game. Sometimes one has to retreat to move forward.

My advice would be to calm down and enjoy our teams wins. this harping on about attacking cricket is getting quite annoying from some fans! we are playing attacking criccket aur kya chatay hain aap loag?? ten slips?