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Old 19th January 2008, 10:45
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Oh Dear that was Awful

We've all seen those horror dismissals where a batsman plays a horrendous stroke at a crucial juncture of the game and gets himself out.

Today Michael Clarke jumped down the wicket so far, that his dismissal could almsot have been declared a runout, rather than a stumping. It gave Dhoni so much time that he could have done a few steps of the bhangra and then taken the bails off.

What was Clarke thinking at a time when he was their last realistic hope?
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Old 19th January 2008, 10:47
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We've all seen those horror dismissals where a batsman plays a horrendous stroke at a crucial juncture of the game and gets himself out.

Today Michael Clarke jumped down the wicket so far, that his dismissal could almsot have been declared a runout, rather than a stumping. It gave Dhoni so much time that he could have done a few steps of the bhangra and then taken the bails off.

What was Clarke thinking at a time when he was their last realistic hope?

One of those brain explosions.. in pressure situations it happens. Remember Dravid played totally uncharacteristic shot on day 1.
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Old 19th January 2008, 10:54
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But it was a splendid innings. If only he didn't charge down the track, Australia could have pulled off a highly unlikely win.

Good to watch though, so no complaints from me.
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Old 19th January 2008, 10:55
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clarke proved he'sanouther faltu pretender, a more professional version of yuvraj singh.

players like him always let their teams down.

but i am not complaing either.

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Old 19th January 2008, 11:02
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He had to go for quick runs as he had only three tail-enders after him. Its not easy to hit Kumble for quick runs playing from the crease and the best way to disrupt the spinner's line-and-length is to go down the track. Just one of those things that look magnificent when they come off and look pretty ugly when they dont
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Old 19th January 2008, 11:04
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Cant really fault Clarke. The match was realistically over before he got out and the tailend slogging was akin to Astle's double century against England. Great entertainment and kept a hope alive when there wasnt any but once the thought of an Aussie comeback started spreading there really wasnt any way it would happen cause the pressure was back on them. Its all good slogging when the pressure is off, but it rarely comes off when it comes back to them
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Old 19th January 2008, 11:08
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Cant really fault Clarke. The match was realistically over before he got out and the tailend slogging was akin to Astle's double century against England. Great entertainment and kept a hope alive when there wasnt any but once the thought of an Aussie comeback started spreading there really wasnt any way it would happen cause the pressure was back on them. Its all good slogging when the pressure is off, but it rarely comes off when it comes back to them

It was almost like Murali, Malinga slogging in the company of Sangakkara. They also threatened to pull off a miracle.
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Old 19th January 2008, 11:08
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It was almost like Murali, Malinga slogging in the company of Sangakkara. They also threatened to pull off a miracle.
That was looking possible though, the way Sangakkara was playing
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Old 19th January 2008, 11:11
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That was looking possible though, the way Sangakkara was playing

Rudy Koertzen had other ideas
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Old 19th January 2008, 12:46
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Cant really fault Clarke. The match was realistically over before he got out and the tailend slogging was akin to Astle's double century against England. Great entertainment and kept a hope alive when there wasnt any but once the thought of an Aussie comeback started spreading there really wasnt any way it would happen cause the pressure was back on them. Its all good slogging when the pressure is off, but it rarely comes off when it comes back to them
Perfect example of some of Misbah's knocks recently.

Altho to be fair to him, he is improving in that department.
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Old 19th January 2008, 17:13
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Cant really fault Clarke. The match was realistically over before he got out and the tailend slogging was akin to Astle's double century against England. Great entertainment and kept a hope alive when there wasnt any but once the thought of an Aussie comeback started spreading there really wasnt any way it would happen cause the pressure was back on them. Its all good slogging when the pressure is off, but it rarely comes off when it comes back to them
Totally agree . He had to go for his shots.
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Old 20th January 2008, 13:07
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Cant really fault Clarke. The match was realistically over before he got out and the tailend slogging was akin to Astle's double century against England. Great entertainment and kept a hope alive when there wasnt any but once the thought of an Aussie comeback started spreading there really wasnt any way it would happen cause the pressure was back on them. Its all good slogging when the pressure is off, but it rarely comes off when it comes back to them
The thing is Daoud, yes I agree about him having to attack and go for the runs, but the mode and type of dismissal was extremely poor in my opinion. Clarke had quite literally jumped down the track before Kumble had released the ball.

I just wonder about Clarke's temperament. Would a Steve Waugh or an Alan Border have done such a thing?
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Old 20th January 2008, 13:24
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The thing is Daoud, yes I agree about him having to attack and go for the runs, but the mode and type of dismissal was extremely poor in my opinion. Clarke had quite literally jumped down the track before Kumble had released the ball.

I just wonder about Clarke's temperament. Would a Steve Waugh or an Alan Border have done such a thing?
No but with those players they have the benefit of being judged on the basis of their whole career. Of all the Aussie players, Clarke is easily the quickest on his feet and has the most assured footwork against spin so he must have felt he'd get to the pitch of the ball (which he clearly didnt). But think back to Damien Martyn's dismissal in the Sydney test vs South Africa back in 1993/94 which ended his test career for 5 or 6 years. Who would have thought that same player was capable of the incredibly mature and important innings he would play a decade later in the subcontinent
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Old 20th January 2008, 14:33
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The thing is Daoud, yes I agree about him having to attack and go for the runs, but the mode and type of dismissal was extremely poor in my opinion. Clarke had quite literally jumped down the track before Kumble had released the ball.

I just wonder about Clarke's temperament. Would a Steve Waugh or an Alan Border have done such a thing?
Clarke is a classy batsman and the way he was driving was an example of the perfect shots..In response to your question above Saj, I think Clarke is a different type of batsman whose natural game is based on attacking intent, Border and Waugh were more grafters in mymind who would grind out runs
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Old 19th January 2008, 17:34
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But you gotta say he was beaten in flight.. I think he thought he was in position only to realize he was far away from the ball. That is clarke's style of batting. He kinda lunges towards the ball when he plays spinners. I think he got out in similar fashion at Sydney or Melbourne.
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Old 19th January 2008, 19:37
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But.. this is a good point that Kaneria should take note of when he plays against ozzies. Kumble has fooled him twice like that. A real teaser both times.
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Old 19th January 2008, 21:51
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That's the way Clarke plays - uses his feet. He batted well, Kumble just beat him.

The crucial wicket was Gilly though, when he was out we had basically no chance.
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Old 21st January 2008, 09:35
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That's the way Clarke plays - uses his feet. He batted well, Kumble just beat him.

The crucial wicket was Gilly though, when he was out we had basically no chance.
Yep. I agree.. he is a good player of spin, uses his feet a lot. This time Kumble was expecting it and he bowled it short.
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Old 19th January 2008, 22:03
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We've all seen those horror dismissals where a batsman plays a horrendous stroke at a crucial juncture of the game and gets himself out.

Today Michael Clarke jumped down the wicket so far, that his dismissal could almsot have been declared a runout, rather than a stumping. It gave Dhoni so much time that he could have done a few steps of the bhangra and then taken the bails off.

What was Clarke thinking at a time when he was their last realistic hope?
That in cricket terms is called Afridian slip where a batsman plays without using an iota of his brain.
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Old 20th January 2008, 13:09
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Over rated player for me. Not at all captain material.
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Old 20th January 2008, 13:27
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Until that shot he was playing superbly. I was impressed with his footwork under pressure, usually batsmen go into a shell but he was a perfect example of controlled attacking. Gilchrist and lee's back to back dismissals must have thrown him off his rythm. I think he's gonna sort that out with experience, other than that he is a top class batsman in the making.
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Old 20th January 2008, 14:58
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Clarke is a weird case. He looks so good at times while batting and strings up a few good scores but then goes quiet for 5/6 games. If he brings consistency into his game, he has the makings of a really good batsman; he has all the strokes, he's a quick runner between the wickets, and he has the temperament to succeed. Just needs to smooth out a few rough edges and then its party time.
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Old 19th January 2008, 19:46
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did we really need a new thread over ONE dismissal?
Are you ever happy with anything? But I agree with you this time.
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