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the court is about to give a ruling on the NRO situation anytime now. let us hope for the best.
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* Report says Zardari, Benazir, Nusrat, Lodhi among owners of 12 companies holding Swiss accounts * Qayyum says cases against Zardari withdrawn on Musharraf’s instructions By Masood Rehman ISLAMABAD: The National Accountability Bureau (NAB) filed with the Supreme Court on Tuesday a fresh report on Swiss cases and their withdrawal, which revealed that frozen Swiss accounts contained $60 million – a sum that has been released. However, NAB Chairman Nawed Ahsan said he had no details of the $1.5 billion assets allegedly owned by President Asif Ali Zardari outside Pakistan. 12 companies: According to the NAB report, there are 12 companies holding Swiss accounts that contain $8.4 million. Zardari, Begum Nusrat Bhutto, Aamir Lodhi and Benazir Bhutto are among the owners of these companies. Also, Zardari and Benazir Bhutto hold seven Swiss accounts. While the president holds four full accounts, he is a partner in three. Lodhi and Zardari are partners in one account, Nasir Hussain and Nusrat Bhutto hold two accounts, and lawyer Jim Shilgamal holds two accounts – with one account titled to his brother-in-law. The NAB chairman told the court that former attorney general Malik Qayyum sent a letter to his Swiss counterpart asking for the withdrawal of cases, and the copy of that letter was not even marked to NAB. Asked why the NAB chairman was not taken into confidence while withdrawing the cases, Ahsan said since the government launched “mutual legal assistance” through Qayyum, the request for the withdrawal was also moved through his office. Musharraf’s instructions: When the court asked Qayyum for a briefing on the matter, the former attorney general said Zardari filed a petition with the Sindh High Court on February 15, 2008, seeking relief under the NRO, and the appeal was accepted. He said he wrote a letter to the Swiss authorities for the withdrawal of cases under former President Pervez Musharraf’s instructions. In addition, another letter was sent after consultations with the Law Ministry in May 2008, but “I was not in the picture at that time ... Farooq Naik was the law minister at the time”. Acting Attorney General Shah Khawar was directed to tell the court today (Wednesday) who gave instructions for the May 2008 letter to be drafted and sent to the Swiss authorities. Source: http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...-12-2009_pg1_3 ------------------------- Kia Baat hai Kia Cheez hai Paisa!
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ISLAMABAD: The Supreme Court hinted on Tuesday that it might announce a short order today (Wednesday) on challenges against the controversial National Reconciliation Ordinance (NRO). Heading a 17-member larger bench and before adjourning the proceedings, Chief Justice of Pakistan Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry also asked all counsels and amicus curiae to conclude their arguments today. At the outset of hearing, the acting attorney general reiterated that the federal government would not defend the NRO. However, he said it was not an appropriate time to “allow upheaval”. Justice Khalilur Rehman Ramday said stopping crime could not trigger upheaval. The chief justice had earlier said that the individual found responsible for the withdrawal of cases would be sent to jail or fined Rs 2 billion. He also praised a statement by Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani in which he said the government would welcome the court’s verdict on the NRO, “whatever it may be”. masood rehman Source: http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...-12-2009_pg1_4
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Imagine decision coming out is that President zardari is removed from president job unless he proves himself innocent from court and for the time being make someone president .
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when world got rid of ZIA, the news was like one of the best for many esp PPP guys! when benazir was removed, news was best for many including me! when she was removed 2nd time, news was best for many. when musharraf kicked out gangas, news was the best for the public! and now if court dismisses zardari, this will be the best news for the public! but hold on, it wont stop here! jiyalas will support zardari again, either he or his son will be back! so the circle will go on and on! Pakistan fate wont change! same corrupt leaders and their sons and daughters will keep on ruining the dream state and dreams of poor at the same time! |
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The youth of Pakistan would rather go abroad to study and settle their, using their knowledge and education to earn money and a peaceful lifestyle in the foreign land instead of wanting to come back and put something back in Pakistan. Such people forfeit their right to criticise. We need more educated people in Pakistan unfortunately, once educated they rather have the easy life abroad. Such people allow the Zardaris' and the Sharifs' to misguide the simpletons because their is no one to stand up to them. Respect to Imran Khan. Could have easily lived his life in peace in the UK with his then wife and kids. But he is willing to sacrifice all of that for his country. Something that everyone can talk about but very few can live up to.
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But problem is, ordinary man was more happy in musharraf era before lal masjid and chief justice removal , despite his slave foreign policies. Zardari has taken few months to reach a place, where musharraf took 7-8 years the message of my post is, how innocent the public is, we are happy when one goes , but get despair and depressed within next few months. |
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those who are saying this is a vicious cycle, THIS IS DIFFERENT. THE HEAD OF THE STATES ARE TAKEN CARE BY THE LAW AND NOT BY SOME INDIVIDIAL/PARTY/ARMY/AGENCY.
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CJ says NRO short order any time soon
Updated at: 1500 PST, Wednesday, December 16, 2009 ISLAMABAD: Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry said court would announce the short order about NRO cases any time soon. During hearing of petitions against NRO, Chief Justice said even parliament has no right to change basic structure of constitution. In accordance to oath, we are committed to safeguard constitution. Earlier, chief justice has warned Chairman NAB Naveed Ahsan about stern action if something false detected in the list. A 17-member bench of Supreme Court (SC) summoned the summary file of directives issued for the elimination Swiss cases when the hearing resumed on Wednesday. On the excuse of acting attorney general, the court summoned principal secretary and secretary law. Secretary law while presenting the file in the court said attorney general wrote the letter for withdrawal of cases on the directives of Asif Zardari’s lawyer Farooq H Naek that was opposed by the than law minister Zahid Hamid. The court has expressed displeasure on acting attorney general and said he hide the truth. The principal secretary of president Salman Farooqi informed the court that cases files are not present in presidency. The files were in president’ camp office in Rawalpindi. The court advisor Mian Allah Nawaz in his arguments termed the NRO as filthy law and said any, which is beneficial for some individuals, is illegal. Another court advisor Shaiq Usmani said there is no legal ground of giving amenity under NRO. President could only issue the ordinance, which will convert into law by the assembly. In his remarks, chief justice said how assembly could declare corruption as legal. The judges in their remarks said NRO is against Quranic teachings and amenity could only be given to political cases. -------------------- I think there are clear hints here, about what the decision would be
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I hope that is not the case, but even if it is then they should get all his pawns and knights and bishops and castles. Get the Corruption King at the end!
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But I have been watching shows on this issue, and most lawyers disagree with him on it. So this is a debate. But yes, get his partners in crime. If they can net all the other rotten eggs, the hen will fall sooner or later
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COAS and USA Military Chief in President House right now. Geo
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We had PM, COAS and US COAS meeting a little while ago
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***? Its almost 10 PM in Pakistan and the announcement was supposed to come up several hours ago? This sounds fishy!
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There is a rumor about Zardari's resignation. Gen Kayani and US Army chief are in president house. It look like Zardari's days are numbered.
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Zardari tried to play the sindh card with his topi ajrak day or whatever, and it failed.
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IF (in the unlilkly event of Ghadari's resignation) i'm 99% sure we'll see Aitizaz Aisan and President.
Haqqani's days will be (hopefully) numbered, Salman Taseer will also be on his way...maybe even Rahman Malik. Then again this would in no way be in America's interests, so i seriously doubt it.
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The americans want people will relatively clean slates, who can deliver what america wants. From what I have been reading, U.S has given clear indications to the pak authorities to resolve this mess according to the constiution, and abide by the court's rulings.
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PRESIDENT is safe now yani Aik Zardari Sub Pai Bhaari hogaya pher baazi jeet gaya..dekhain next round main kia hota hai
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some people with weapons take advantage of these situations, firing and traffic jams in karachi is a normal thing, specially its wedding season now a days..
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------------------------ i heard 70% of the cases are related to sindh, so ppp and mqm must be really worried.
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President can't be tried.
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And the SC has said nothing about presidential immunity yet. I am just hearing it on Geo.
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Corrupt & Criminal Murdabad NEXT STOP General Pervez MUSHARAF
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Let me correct you. Next stop, zardari and mush
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And please do spare a thought for Democracy. In democracy only can we get such decisions. What happened when this supreme Court tried to act against Musharaf. They were abducted by the hooligans (Read Pak Army) with Sultana Daku (Read Musharaf) as their head. So all in all, the SC has given the Pakistanis some reason to hold their heads high and claim that atleast their judiciary is independent and honest. As for Zardari i think he will fight those cases. He should have done it earlier but he has got a stone for a brain. Had he even 5% of BB shrewdness he wouldn't have been in this crisis. Between on a lighter note, Rehman Malik becomes absconder of law straight away..
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You are correct, this is the beauty of democracy, and independent judiciary. I am disappointed with Gilani though. I havent heard anything from him regarding arrests, and sackings. I mean Rehman Malik should have been arrested right away
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Am i right in thinking the likes of Rehman Malik etc who have 'clouds' hanging over them can be arrested right here right now?
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And just to clarify, zardari's immunity has not been decided in the case. As it stands, zardari is not immune to criminal proceedings.
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GEO making fun of zardari and PPP leaders by playing some song "Ye kia hua, kab hua, kiun hua, kaisai hua." hahahahaha
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According to the president's spokes person Farhat Ullah Babar, president still enjoys the immunity.
But the question here, will the army allow the humiliation of the country when country's president will be dragged into the courts day and night in the world media, will US support an accused president in a situation where he need support from common people of the country to fight his war on terror? The answer is no, Zardari's days have been numbered and clock has been ticking. Now he is sitting in the president house to make another deal, just like Musharaf was doing in his last few weeks. This decision has seal his fate and now just a formality and some fine details to be work on for his good bye. |
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Steel Mills probe team notification cancelled
Updated at: 1530 PST, Thursday, December 17, 2009 ISLAMABAD: The Supreme Court has issued contempt of court notice to Interior Minister Rehman Malik and cancelled notification issued form interior ministry team to investigate corruption in Steel Mills. The court has also ordered immediate restoration of DG FIA Tariq Khosa. A three-member bench of Supreme Court today starts hearing of Steel Mills corruption case today. The court expressed displeasure on the removal of DG FIA Tariq Khosa. Acting attorney general conveyed message of good wishes of prime minister to the court and said Tariq Khosa would be appointed as secretary interior. Any person referred by the court will be appointed as chief of FIA. The chief justice expressed displeasure and said Tariq Khosa should be restored today so that he will complete investigations of Steel Mills, Haris Mills and other cases. The court has also cancelled interior ministry notification for the formation investigation team. The court issued contempt of court notice to Interior Minister Rehman Malik and directed to submit reply December 24. --------------------------------------- Tariq Khosa was dismissed for doing his job. SC reinstates him. SC going solo to make much needed corrections.
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