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Old 16th December 2009, 12:47
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The NRO Decision

the court is about to give a ruling on the NRO situation anytime now. let us hope for the best.
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NAB presents details of Swiss accounts in Supreme Court

* Report says Zardari, Benazir, Nusrat, Lodhi among owners of 12 companies holding Swiss accounts
* Qayyum says cases against Zardari withdrawn on Musharraf’s instructions

By Masood Rehman

ISLAMABAD: The National Accountability Bureau (NAB) filed with the Supreme Court on Tuesday a fresh report on Swiss cases and their withdrawal, which revealed that frozen Swiss accounts contained $60 million – a sum that has been released.

However, NAB Chairman Nawed Ahsan said he had no details of the $1.5 billion assets allegedly owned by President Asif Ali Zardari outside Pakistan.

12 companies: According to the NAB report, there are 12 companies holding Swiss accounts that contain $8.4 million. Zardari, Begum Nusrat Bhutto, Aamir Lodhi and Benazir Bhutto are among the owners of these companies. Also, Zardari and Benazir Bhutto hold seven Swiss accounts. While the president holds four full accounts, he is a partner in three. Lodhi and Zardari are partners in one account, Nasir Hussain and Nusrat Bhutto hold two accounts, and lawyer Jim Shilgamal holds two accounts – with one account titled to his brother-in-law.

The NAB chairman told the court that former attorney general Malik Qayyum sent a letter to his Swiss counterpart asking for the withdrawal of cases, and the copy of that letter was not even marked to NAB.

Asked why the NAB chairman was not taken into confidence while withdrawing the cases, Ahsan said since the government launched “mutual legal assistance” through Qayyum, the request for the withdrawal was also moved through his office.

Musharraf’s instructions: When the court asked Qayyum for a briefing on the matter, the former attorney general said Zardari filed a petition with the Sindh High Court on February 15, 2008, seeking relief under the NRO, and the appeal was accepted. He said he wrote a letter to the Swiss authorities for the withdrawal of cases under former President Pervez Musharraf’s instructions. In addition, another letter was sent after consultations with the Law Ministry in May 2008, but “I was not in the picture at that time ... Farooq Naik was the law minister at the time”.

Acting Attorney General Shah Khawar was directed to tell the court today (Wednesday) who gave instructions for the May 2008 letter to be drafted and sent to the Swiss authorities.

Source: http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...-12-2009_pg1_3

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Decision on NRO likely today

ISLAMABAD: The Supreme Court hinted on Tuesday that it might announce a short order today (Wednesday) on challenges against the controversial National Reconciliation Ordinance (NRO). Heading a 17-member larger bench and before adjourning the proceedings, Chief Justice of Pakistan Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry also asked all counsels and amicus curiae to conclude their arguments today. At the outset of hearing, the acting attorney general reiterated that the federal government would not defend the NRO. However, he said it was not an appropriate time to “allow upheaval”. Justice Khalilur Rehman Ramday said stopping crime could not trigger upheaval. The chief justice had earlier said that the individual found responsible for the withdrawal of cases would be sent to jail or fined Rs 2 billion. He also praised a statement by Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani in which he said the government would welcome the court’s verdict on the NRO, “whatever it may be”. masood rehman

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Imagine decision coming out is that President zardari is removed from president job unless he proves himself innocent from court and for the time being make someone president .

Inshallah rehman malik , baber awan , abdul qayyum jatoi and other blind friends of zardari and zardari are removed for time being woow will be best news ever.


one of the best news ever
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Imagine decision coming out is that President zardari is removed from president job unless he proves himself innocent from court and for the time being make someone president .

Inshallah rehman malik , baber awan , abdul qayyum jatoi and other blind friends of zardari and zardari are removed for time being woow will be best news ever.


one of the best news ever
what a vicious cycle!!!

when world got rid of ZIA, the news was like one of the best for many esp PPP guys!

when benazir was removed, news was best for many including me!

when she was removed 2nd time, news was best for many.

when musharraf kicked out gangas, news was the best for the public!

and now if court dismisses zardari, this will be the best news for the public!

but hold on, it wont stop here!

jiyalas will support zardari again, either he or his son will be back!

so the circle will go on and on!

Pakistan fate wont change!

same corrupt leaders and their sons and daughters will keep on ruining the dream state and dreams of poor at the same time!
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what a vicious cycle!!!

when world got rid of ZIA, the news was like one of the best for many esp PPP guys!

when benazir was removed, news was best for many including me!

when she was removed 2nd time, news was best for many.

when musharraf kicked out gangas, news was the best for the public!

and now if court dismisses zardari, this will be the best news for the public!

but hold on, it wont stop here!

jiyalas will support zardari again, either he or his son will be back!

so the circle will go on and on!

Pakistan fate wont change!

same corrupt leaders and their sons and daughters will keep on ruining the dream state and dreams of poor at the same time!
u r talking like a loser be a gentleman dude always be positive and hope for the best .

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Old 16th December 2009, 13:28
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u r talking like a loser be a gentleman dude always be positive and hope for the best .

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For most, it is easy to sit outside of Pakistan and criticise the way its run etc. Fair enough it deserves criticism, but does anyone suggest any solutions?

The youth of Pakistan would rather go abroad to study and settle their, using their knowledge and education to earn money and a peaceful lifestyle in the foreign land instead of wanting to come back and put something back in Pakistan.

Such people forfeit their right to criticise. We need more educated people in Pakistan unfortunately, once educated they rather have the easy life abroad.

Such people allow the Zardaris' and the Sharifs' to misguide the simpletons because their is no one to stand up to them.

Respect to Imran Khan. Could have easily lived his life in peace in the UK with his then wife and kids. But he is willing to sacrifice all of that for his country. Something that everyone can talk about but very few can live up to.
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what a vicious cycle!!!

when world got rid of ZIA, the news was like one of the best for many esp PPP guys!

when benazir was removed, news was best for many including me!

when she was removed 2nd time, news was best for many.

when musharraf kicked out gangas, news was the best for the public!

and now if court dismisses zardari, this will be the best news for the public!

but hold on, it wont stop here!

jiyalas will support zardari again, either he or his son will be back!

so the circle will go on and on!

Pakistan fate wont change!

same corrupt leaders and their sons and daughters will keep on ruining the dream state and dreams of poor at the same time!
How conveniently you forget the best news of the Pakistan history. The day when Musharaf was asked to take out his uniform and leave the presidency and eventually thrown out of the country to live with Altaf Hussain.
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How conveniently you forget the best news of the Pakistan history. The day when Musharaf was asked to take out his uniform and leave the presidency and eventually thrown out of the country to live with Altaf Hussain.
thanks for reminder. I agree with you whole heartedly!
But problem is, ordinary man was more happy in musharraf era before lal masjid and chief justice removal , despite his slave foreign policies.
Zardari has taken few months to reach a place, where musharraf took 7-8 years

the message of my post is, how innocent the public is, we are happy when one goes , but get despair and depressed within next few months.
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those who are saying this is a vicious cycle, THIS IS DIFFERENT. THE HEAD OF THE STATES ARE TAKEN CARE BY THE LAW AND NOT BY SOME INDIVIDIAL/PARTY/ARMY/AGENCY.
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those who are saying this is a vicious cycle, THIS IS DIFFERENT. THE HEAD OF THE STATES ARE TAKEN CARE BY THE LAW AND NOT BY SOME INDIVIDIAL/PARTY/ARMY/AGENCY.
I agree.

People who think that things are the same in Pakistan, either they are not following the politics and situation or they are in denial. There have been slow revolution in progress and we are moving in right direction. It will take time but we will get there.
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I agree.

People who think that things are the same in Pakistan, either they are not following the politics and situation or they are in denial. There have been slow revolution in progress and we are moving in right direction. It will take time but we will get there.
its battle between Bad (supreme court ) vs Worst (Current government )
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its battle between Bad (supreme court ) vs Worst (Current government )
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its battle between Bad (supreme court ) vs Worst (Current government )
your insight into pakistani politics is just amazing
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NRO decision is still pending. man it is so boring lol......... all the channels forgot all other news and keep on talking about NRO
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CJ says NRO short order any time soon
Updated at: 1500 PST, Wednesday, December 16, 2009
ISLAMABAD: Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry said court would announce the short order about NRO cases any time soon.

During hearing of petitions against NRO, Chief Justice said even parliament has no right to change basic structure of constitution. In accordance to oath, we are committed to safeguard constitution. Earlier, chief justice has warned Chairman NAB Naveed Ahsan about stern action if something false detected in the list.

A 17-member bench of Supreme Court (SC) summoned the summary file of directives issued for the elimination Swiss cases when the hearing resumed on Wednesday. On the excuse of acting attorney general, the court summoned principal secretary and secretary law. Secretary law while presenting the file in the court said attorney general wrote the letter for withdrawal of cases on the directives of Asif Zardari’s lawyer Farooq H Naek that was opposed by the than law minister Zahid Hamid.

The court has expressed displeasure on acting attorney general and said he hide the truth. The principal secretary of president Salman Farooqi informed the court that cases files are not present in presidency. The files were in president’ camp office in Rawalpindi.

The court advisor Mian Allah Nawaz in his arguments termed the NRO as filthy law and said any, which is beneficial for some individuals, is illegal. Another court advisor Shaiq Usmani said there is no legal ground of giving amenity under NRO. President could only issue the ordinance, which will convert into law by the assembly.

In his remarks, chief justice said how assembly could declare corruption as legal. The judges in their remarks said NRO is against Quranic teachings and amenity could only be given to political cases.

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I think there are clear hints here, about what the decision would be
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CJ says NRO short order any time soon
Updated at: 1500 PST, Wednesday, December 16, 2009
ISLAMABAD: Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry said court would announce the short order about NRO cases any time soon.

During hearing of petitions against NRO, Chief Justice said even parliament has no right to change basic structure of constitution. In accordance to oath, we are committed to safeguard constitution. Earlier, chief justice has warned Chairman NAB Naveed Ahsan about stern action if something false detected in the list.

A 17-member bench of Supreme Court (SC) summoned the summary file of directives issued for the elimination Swiss cases when the hearing resumed on Wednesday. On the excuse of acting attorney general, the court summoned principal secretary and secretary law. Secretary law while presenting the file in the court said attorney general wrote the letter for withdrawal of cases on the directives of Asif Zardari’s lawyer Farooq H Naek that was opposed by the than law minister Zahid Hamid.

The court has expressed displeasure on acting attorney general and said he hide the truth. The principal secretary of president Salman Farooqi informed the court that cases files are not present in presidency. The files were in president’ camp office in Rawalpindi.

The court advisor Mian Allah Nawaz in his arguments termed the NRO as filthy law and said any, which is beneficial for some individuals, is illegal. Another court advisor Shaiq Usmani said there is no legal ground of giving amenity under NRO. President could only issue the ordinance, which will convert into law by the assembly.

In his remarks, chief justice said how assembly could declare corruption as legal. The judges in their remarks said NRO is against Quranic teachings and amenity could only be given to political cases.

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The statement in bold is not a good sign.
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The statement in bold is not a good sign.
I dont think political cases mean corruption cases.
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I dont think political cases mean corruption cases.
Well, Itizaz Ashan I think said that Zardari has Immunity since he is the President.

I hope that is not the case, but even if it is then they should get all his pawns and knights and bishops and castles.

Get the Corruption King at the end!
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Well, Itizaz Ashan I think said that Zardari has Immunity since he is the President.

I hope that is not the case, but even if it is then they should get all his pawns and knights and bishops and castles.

Get the Corruption King at the end!
Aitezaz is a very good lawyer, and his opinion holds weight.

But I have been watching shows on this issue, and most lawyers disagree with him on it. So this is a debate.

But yes, get his partners in crime. If they can net all the other rotten eggs, the hen will fall sooner or later
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COAS and USA Military Chief in President House right now. Geo

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that doesnt seem to be ominous sign for zardari camp.
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We had PM, COAS and US COAS meeting a little while ago
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***? Its almost 10 PM in Pakistan and the announcement was supposed to come up several hours ago? This sounds fishy!
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***? Its almost 10 PM in Pakistan and the announcement was supposed to come up several hours ago? This sounds fishy!
if i remember correctly musharraf decision was delayed too..

dont fall for geo's hype, calm down, this is an important decision and the judiciary needs to be given all the time.
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if i remember correctly musharraf decision was delayed too..

dont fall for geo's hype, calm down, this is an important decision and the judiciary needs to be given all the time.

ditto well said they can take 1 week as well but result should be as per my wishes warna


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There is a rumor about Zardari's resignation. Gen Kayani and US Army chief are in president house. It look like Zardari's days are numbered.

They will announce the decision late at night to avoid the reaction especially in interior Sindh.
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There is a rumor about Zardari's resignation. Gen Kayani and US Army chief are in president house. It look like Zardari's days are numbered.

They will announce the decision late at night to avoid the reaction especially in interior Sindh.
There wont be a reaction in interior sindh. A lot of the sindhi MPAs and MNAs are not with zardari.

Zardari tried to play the sindh card with his topi ajrak day or whatever, and it failed.
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Late at night meaning 4 am so it makes for good to decent news hour in UK and USA? And the statement will be in English too. They speak to them rather than the country
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IF (in the unlilkly event of Ghadari's resignation) i'm 99% sure we'll see Aitizaz Aisan and President.

Haqqani's days will be (hopefully) numbered, Salman Taseer will also be on his way...maybe even Rahman Malik. Then again this would in no way be in America's interests, so i seriously doubt it.
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IF (in the unlilkly event of Ghadari's resignation) i'm 99% sure we'll see Aitizaz Aisan and President.

Haqqani's days will be (hopefully) numbered, Salman Taseer will also be on his way...maybe even Rahman Malik. Then again this would in no way be in America's interests, so i seriously doubt it.
I dont think the americans will back these guys. They have already left zardari on his own. And im certain that the other cronies will be left on their own too.

The americans want people will relatively clean slates, who can deliver what america wants.

From what I have been reading, U.S has given clear indications to the pak authorities to resolve this mess according to the constiution, and abide by the court's rulings.
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There is firing going on in Karachi? the shops have been closed and there is big traffic jam?
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There is firing going on in Karachi? the shops have been closed and there is big traffic jam?
what part of karachi is that? nothing in bahadurabad, tariq road, gulshan and azizabad as yet.

some people with weapons take advantage of these situations, firing and traffic jams in karachi is a normal thing, specially its wedding season now a days..
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what part of karachi is that? nothing in bahadurabad, tariq road, gulshan and azizabad as yet.

some people with weapons take advantage of these situations, firing and traffic jams in karachi is a normal thing, specially its wedding season now a days..
Just read on jang newspaper's website. They said different areas of Karachi but did not name them.

http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/dec2009-...009/u14478.htm
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Just read on jang newspaper's website. They said different areas of Karachi but did not name them.

http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/dec2009-...009/u14478.htm
yes maybe in some areas. as i said some people just take advantage of these situations as they did during the benazir incident.
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i heard 70% of the cases are related to sindh, so ppp and mqm must be really worried.
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More news to follow.
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NRO has been declared unconstitutional all the cases stand as they were on October 2007.
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NRO has been declared unconstitutional all the cases stand as they were on October 2007.
So none of the cases will be withdrawn under NRO. That is good
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So none of the cases will be withdrawn under NRO. That is good
None. Nab head to be changed. Swiss cases to be restarted.

President can't be tried.
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what about Nawaz Sharif's corruption? supreme court will never act against him ..hes there good friend..they already reversed all his convictions...Aazaad Aadlia my foot....Adlia to make Nawaz Sharif the next prime minister
Dude, read the title of the thread. It is about NRO. All other cases are separate. Stop posting the same posts in every thread
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None. Nab head to be changed. Swiss cases to be restarted.

President can't be tried.
President will be thrown out, New Petitions will come up for his eligibility to be a president. he could be challanged because in swiss court he said he was struggling with dementia and insomnia.

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Some Pakistani lawyers say that because Mr. Zardari failed to appear when he was called before the High Court in Lahore after he was released from jail in 2004, he is considered an absconder, a status that is enough, they say, to disqualify him as a presidential candidate.
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Lawyers also contend that a 2003 money-laundering conviction of Mr. Zardari by a Swiss magistrate, which Mr. Zardari and Ms. Bhutto appealed, was enough to disqualify him. Once the Supreme Court rules on the amnesty, lawyers will file petitions in “a matter of days” to challenge Mr. Zardari’s eligibility as a presidential candidate, said Salman Akram Raja, a lawyer who has argued against the validity of the amnesty. In the case against amnesty, he represents Mubashir Hassan, the leader of a breakaway faction of Mr. Zardari’s Pakistan Peoples Party and a staunch opponent of the president.
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None. Nab head to be changed. Swiss cases to be restarted.

President can't be tried.
So SC trying to depoliticize NAB. I also heard that Malik Qayyum is to be punished for directing swiss courts to stop cases against zardari.

And the SC has said nothing about presidential immunity yet. I am just hearing it on Geo.
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It is so wonderful what an independent judiciary can do. Sitting ministers, president, backed by foreign powers, could not stop this decision.

Let me correct you. Next stop, zardari and mush
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It is so wonderful what an independent judiciary can do. Sitting ministers, president, backed by foreign powers, could not stop this decision.

Let me correct you. Next stop, zardari and mush

And please do spare a thought for Democracy. In democracy only can we get such decisions. What happened when this supreme Court tried to act against Musharaf. They were abducted by the hooligans (Read Pak Army) with Sultana Daku (Read Musharaf) as their head.

So all in all, the SC has given the Pakistanis some reason to hold their heads high and claim that atleast their judiciary is independent and honest.

As for Zardari i think he will fight those cases. He should have done it earlier but he has got a stone for a brain. Had he even 5% of BB shrewdness he wouldn't have been in this crisis.

Between on a lighter note, Rehman Malik becomes absconder of law straight away..
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And please do spare a thought for Democracy. In democracy only can we get such decisions. What happened when this supreme Court tried to act against Musharaf. They were abducted by the hooligans (Read Pak Army) with Sultana Daku (Read Musharaf) as their head.

So all in all, the SC has given the Pakistanis some reason to hold their heads high and claim that atleast their judiciary is independent and honest.

As for Zardari i think he will fight those cases. He should have done it earlier but he has got a stone for a brain. Had he even 5% of BB shrewdness he wouldn't have been in this crisis.

Between on a lighter note, Rehman Malik becomes absconder of law straight away..
that is just absolute tosh but nothing less can be expected.. Zardari and his cronies did not what this CJ because they had forseen their fate.. As for BB being shrewd
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And please do spare a thought for Democracy. In democracy only can we get such decisions. What happened when this supreme Court tried to act against Musharaf. They were abducted by the hooligans (Read Pak Army) with Sultana Daku (Read Musharaf) as their head.

So all in all, the SC has given the Pakistanis some reason to hold their heads high and claim that atleast their judiciary is independent and honest.

As for Zardari i think he will fight those cases. He should have done it earlier but he has got a stone for a brain. Had he even 5% of BB shrewdness he wouldn't have been in this crisis.

Between on a lighter note, Rehman Malik becomes absconder of law straight away..
Well, with advisors like Rehman Malik, what sort of decisions can be expected of zardari.

You are correct, this is the beauty of democracy, and independent judiciary.

I am disappointed with Gilani though. I havent heard anything from him regarding arrests, and sackings. I mean Rehman Malik should have been arrested right away
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Am i right in thinking the likes of Rehman Malik etc who have 'clouds' hanging over them can be arrested right here right now?
Only those people who had been punished, will be arrested. Some of the punishments were also declared null and void under NRO. Now those punishments stand, and if Rehman Malik is one of those people who had been punished, then he should be arrested.
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And just to clarify, zardari's immunity has not been decided in the case. As it stands, zardari is not immune to criminal proceedings.
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GEO making fun of zardari and PPP leaders by playing some song "Ye kia hua, kab hua, kiun hua, kaisai hua."

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But Attorney general (state prosecuter) is a party person. Is Supreme court also going to go after him if they feel he is not doing the job or is Supreme court just going to give their own judgement?
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But Attorney general (state prosecuter) is a party person. Is Supreme court also going to go after him if they feel he is not doing the job or is Supreme court just going to give their own judgement?
Well, the SC just ordered to fire NAB chairman, prosecutor general and his deputy, for not doing their jobs.
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According to the president's spokes person Farhat Ullah Babar, president still enjoys the immunity.

But the question here, will the army allow the humiliation of the country when country's president will be dragged into the courts day and night in the world media, will US support an accused president in a situation where he need support from common people of the country to fight his war on terror?

The answer is no, Zardari's days have been numbered and clock has been ticking. Now he is sitting in the president house to make another deal, just like Musharaf was doing in his last few weeks.

This decision has seal his fate and now just a formality and some fine details to be work on for his good bye.
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THis is very debatable. Many law experts have been talking on TV since yesterday, and none of them agree with this statement
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BB's 100% shrewdness lost her 5 cases in switzerland.
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ISLAMABAD: The Supreme Court has issued contempt of court notice to Interior Minister Rehman Malik and cancelled notification issued form interior ministry team to investigate corruption in Steel Mills.

The court has also ordered immediate restoration of DG FIA Tariq Khosa.

A three-member bench of Supreme Court today starts hearing of Steel Mills corruption case today. The court expressed displeasure on the removal of DG FIA Tariq Khosa. Acting attorney general conveyed message of good wishes of prime minister to the court and said Tariq Khosa would be appointed as secretary interior. Any person referred by the court will be appointed as chief of FIA.

The chief justice expressed displeasure and said Tariq Khosa should be restored today so that he will complete investigations of Steel Mills, Haris Mills and other cases. The court has also cancelled interior ministry notification for the formation investigation team. The court issued contempt of court notice to Interior Minister Rehman Malik and directed to submit reply December 24.

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ISLAMABAD: The Supreme Court has issued contempt of court notice to Interior Minister Rehman Malik and cancelled notification issued form interior ministry team to investigate corruption in Steel Mills.

The court has also ordered immediate restoration of DG FIA Tariq Khosa.

A three-member bench of Supreme Court today starts hearing of Steel Mills corruption case today. The court expressed displeasure on the removal of DG FIA Tariq Khosa. Acting attorney general conveyed message of good wishes of prime minister to the court and said Tariq Khosa would be appointed as secretary interior. Any person referred by the court will be appointed as chief of FIA.

The chief justice expressed displeasure and said Tariq Khosa should be restored today so that he will complete investigations of Steel Mills, Haris Mills and other cases. The court has also cancelled interior ministry notification for the formation investigation team. The court issued contempt of court notice to Interior Minister Rehman Malik and directed to submit reply December 24.

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