Sachin Tendulkar Mega-Discussion Thread

[umerz]

not 2 years but may be 6 months or so..injuries has also let him down.....he has been out of cricket for at least 12 months..but surely he has taken more time than expected going by his standards

[mnoman15]

Congrats Sachin ....

[Asim2Good]

Congrats Sachin

[Monsee]

If he had choked after tea and gotten out with the runs leveled with Lara...it would have been 'Irony times Infinity' :-)

Congrats on the record...now can he retire and make way for a youngster?

[siccric]

Congratulations to him!

I now know why we never drop Afridi. Eventually, he'll break this record.

[Sultan Yusuf]

21 tests and 15 innings later than the King, tendi finally limps over the line...congrats

Well done to the 4th best player of his generation and the 5th best of all time for India!

[Random Aussie]

Originally Posted by siccric Congratulations to him! I now know why we never drop Afridi. Eventually, he'll break this record.

[maamrut]

SY,lol..you have had your 2 mins of claim to fame..now run along.

But seriously congrats to Sachin..he and Lara have been the best of this era(statistics notwithstanding).

[pixaar]

What a legend.

[Oxy]

I havent watched any of the game, but BBC Radio5Live speaking to Geoff Boycot commented on the poor crowd that were there to witness this.

[bablu_khan]

Originally Posted by Oxy I havent watched any of the game, but BBC Radio5Live speaking to Geoff Boycot commented on the poor crowd that were there to witness this.

early morning the crowd was very less but by the time first wicket fall. the stadium had many people coming in and when Tendulkar hit his milestone run, the crowd was so full...

[Bublu Bhuyan]

Originally Posted by Sultan Yusuf 21 tests and 15 innings later than the King, tendi finally limps over the line...congrats Well done to the 4th best player of his generation and the 5th best of all time for India!

It's strange you don't even have the curtsy to show respect at moments like these. Really gives us an insight of your narrow mindedness.

[Indieview]

Originally Posted by bublubhuyan It's strange you don't even have the curtsy to show respect at moments like these. Really gives us an insight of your narrow mindedness.

Face the reality Mate, There are genuine Cricket fans here who appreciates the genuius and there are fans on the other side who genuinely cannot stand at the sight of Tendulkar right from 1989 simply because he is from India.

Thats the only reason I see ...

[Bublu Bhuyan]

Originally Posted by Indieview Face the reality Mate, There are genuine Cricket fans here who appreciates the genuius and there are fans on the other side who genuinely cannot stand at the sight of Tendulkar right from 1989 simply because he is from India. Thats the only reason I see ...

Only reason you see ? I'd say only reason any normal cricket fan would see. And when you say it, they'll come up with a lot of factors like this and that, and this player is this, this player is that, and therefore they are correct. What surprises me is that how is it that us Indians never fail to see talent in Pakistani players and always admire geniuses like Akram, Waqar, Imran, etc

[rahulrulezz]

Originally Posted by bublubhuyan It's strange you don't even have the curtsy to show respect at moments like these. Really gives us an insight of your narrow mindedness.

haha...dont worry man .. he is just a pessimistic person and only find negatives ... Congratz Sachin for being the highest scorer in Test Matches!!!

[Sultan Yusuf]

Originally Posted by maamrut SY,lol..you have had your 2 mins of claim to fame..now run along. But seriously congrats to Sachin..he and Lara have been the best of this era(statistics notwithstanding).

Sorry, who are you?

[maamrut]

^Thats no concern of yours what-so-ever.

[Indieview]

One of the best article I have read in recent times ... Worth reading it

A player of two parts* *Why the man who now holds the record for the most runs in Tests is two batsmen in one Suresh Menon October 17, 2008 In November 1989, a London-based writer came to the Indian team's nets in Karachi to seek out a player he was told had the "best on-drive in the game". That player, Sachin Tendulkar, was 16 and yet to play a Test, but he already had his future mapped out - by others as much as by himself. Anything less than the most centuries and the highest aggregate in international cricket would count as failure. Nearly two decades later, when the inevitable has come to pass, fans may be merely satisfied rather than overcome, and even quite blasé about it. If it was ordained, where is the surprise? Such is the tyranny of inevitability. It throws a veil over the hard work, the physical toll, the mental strain that have gone into the making of a record-breaker. Of the 19 batsmen who have scored more than 8000 runs, only five have held the highest aggregate record, only three have played 150 Tests, but only one, Tendulkar, has been two different batsmen. Tendulkar made his debut in Pakistan. Of his team-mates then, one has become an insufferable television commentator, and two others have become good ones; one was convicted of murder and sent to jail, another banned for life for match-fixing. One eliminated the line between whistle-blower and perpetrator, one ran a banned series of matches, another was chairman of selectors. One has dropped out of the public eye and another has turned television actor. But Tendulkar bats on. Longevity is intrinsic to greatness. At 19, the Mumbai boy was already the world's best batsman. Interestingly, Tendulkar seemed to agree with this assessment in a quiet, matter-of-fact way. This lack of arrogance possibly caused him to be less destructive in Test cricket than he might have been, but it was a crucial element in his becoming a national icon. Indians don't like their sporting heroes to be conceited; they give their hearts to modest players who underplay their emotions while performing consistently. Of the two Tendulkars who played for India, the first had three or four shots for every ball; the second seemed conscious of three or four ways it could have got him out. Yet, amazingly, the spirit of the boy is ever present in the batsman, whether 16 or 35. A decade after making his debut, he was still teaching Shoaib Akhtar at the World Cup the difference between a good batsman and a great one. When pushed to the wall, Tendulkar continues to exhibit a rare creativity. It is not enough to somehow escape, it is necessary to escape while teaching the bowler a lesson he will never forget. In sport as in art, late works usually crown a lifetime of effort. Looked at from either end of their careers, sportsmen present a harmonious picture. Occasionally, the "late style" (to borrow a phrase made popular by Edward Said) is about intransigence and unresolved contradictions. It doesn't fit into the whole. Of the batsmen who have made over 9000 Test runs, six found their idiom at the start of their careers and kept with it (including, so far, the three still active). The later Brian Lara was not much different from the early Lara, the Allan Border who made his first run was the same as the one who made the 11,000th. The two exceptions are the Indians, Sunil Gavaskar and Tendulkar. It is not uncommon for batsmen who began their careers as leading stroke-makers to finish as part of the supporting cast. Age converts the carefree into the careworn. Rohan Kanhai is a good example of a batsman who began by inventing strokes against the best bowling and ended by playing "experienced" innings in the shadow of the next generation. Experience often means that players are more aware of things in their own game that do not work, and are chary of taking chances. Why attempt a risky boundary when there is a safe single to be had? Firebrand speakers become merely adequate, daredevil adventurers become boring teachers, those renowned for thinking out of the box show how comfortable they are sitting in it. It is the same with sportsmen. "Late style is what happens," wrote Edward Said in his study of musicians and writers, "if art does not abdicate its rights in favour of reality." Great players go against the grain as well as place themselves at the head of a trend. Gavaskar who began his career as a generic name for batting technique, discovered late the joys of hooking fast bowlers; a ferocious attack on Malcolm Marshall and Michael Holding featured in his 29th Test century. It took him just 94 deliveries, and was one of the fastest in the game's history. This from a batsman who once took 60 overs to make 36 not out in a World Cup match. Tendulkar's journey, though in the reverse direction, is no less dramatic. If Gavaskar found his responses within the tenets of orthodoxy, Tendulkar, no less orthodox for being a more attacking player, extended the reach of such orthodoxy. Five years ago he began to play a shot to the left of third man, which began with him withdrawing from the line of the ball delivered by a fast bowler and glancing it fine - but on the off side. It called for remarkable control and steely wrists. It wasn't as ugly as the reverse sweep, but lacked the grace of the "straight-bat pull", where he (and later, Virender Sehwag) whipped the ball, tennis-style cross court. Both strokes were created for the one-day game, but are no less effective when played wearing whites. It may have been the Chennai defeat against Pakistan a decade ago that first sowed the seeds of the new Tendulkar. He was distraught at getting out so close to a win. He saw the need to be around; occupancy of the crease was not just a personal quirk but a team requirement. Tendulkar, the champagne cricketer with a dancer's footwork, curbed himself. He didn't actually become a clock-watching clerk, but he understood the need. The series of injuries that followed - toes, back, elbow - meant that effervescence was replaced by effectiveness, the straight and narrow was preferred to the fantastic. Like great batsmen of any era, Tendulkar often seemed to be playing on a different planet altogether, keen to sculpt an innings that both merged with the team effort and stood out for its uniqueness. His Sydney double-century in 2004, when he scored no boundary between the bowler and point, came after self-examination revealed that he had been playing away from his body too often. It was almost as if the off side did not exist; on display was discipline as well as proof that he could get the bowlers to bowl where he wanted them to. The boy who hit Abdul Qadir for three sixes in Peshawar had moved aside for the man who let the ball go outside the off stump with the realisation that not playing was an integral part of playing. In 110 matches before that Sydney Test, Tendulkar was involved in 31 wins; in the 39 Tests following it, he played his part in 16. The win percentage had gone up from 28 to 41 (obviously, there were other circumstances too). Tendulkar, an intelligent man, could not have been unaware of this. When individual effort does not contribute significantly to team victories, there is unhappiness all around. By 30, with nothing left to prove as a batsman, he set about correcting this nagging anomaly, this disconnect between his performance and the team's. If that meant he would have to cut out the flamboyance, then so be it. If fans complained that he was playing within himself, he could point to India's wins. But Tendulkar is more than the sum of his figures. His mere presence is a morale booster, both for his ten colleagues in the team, and the billion supporters outside it. As remarkable as his record is his self-possession. His head hasn't changed size, his boots haven't grown smaller. He alone knows what it means to be Tendulkar, with its frustrations, its sacrifices, and the need to be Tendulkar at all times. He is a one-man university that teaches sportsmen how to handle money, fame and pressure. Indians refuse to give Tendulkar the luxury of failure. The mirror he holds up to us is a distorted one, making us seem, like him, invincible, rich and accomplished. When he fails, therefore, it is as if we fail. That is the biggest compliment fans can pay their hero. But it is a heavy burden, even if Tendulkar seems to carry it lightly. A rough calculation shows that he averages over 200 days in a year travelling for cricket, playing it at the highest level, or practising for it. Two-thirds of a year devoted to cricket, and not one bad day at work? Even Mozart was allowed an occasional off day. The future will treat Tendulkar much better than we have, although we were given the privilege of watching the boy grow into a man and live up to potential. Even that is a remarkable feat. Not every promising player accomplishes as much as he promises. Tendulkar has. Let us celebrate that. His record will be broken. But his impact will last.

[Sufian84]

congrats
one of the best players in history

[maamrut]

Karachi: Former Pakistan greats on Friday showered praise on Sachin Tendulkar on becoming Test cricket's highest run-getter. Pakistan's highest run-getter Javed Miandad said he rates Tendulkar as one of the "greatest batsmen" ever to have played cricket. "He is great and his record speaks volumes of his greatness. It was a matter of time when he gets so many runs that no one can overhaul," Miandad told cricketnirvana.com. Miandad was Pakistan's mainstay when Tendulkar made his debut in Pakistan in 1989. He said Tendulkar showed talent in his first series. "We were told a lot about Sachin and when he batted against us, he showed the talent to become one of the greatest in the world and today he achieved that." Wasim Akram, himself the leading wicket-taker in one-day cricket, said he rates Tendulkar at par with Brian Lara, Don Bradman, Sunil Gavaskar and Viv Richards. "I rate him high on the list. Tendulkar is at par with Lara, Gavaskar, Bradman and Richards and it's his greatness that he has achieved milestone after mislestone." "When he played against us in 1999 he showed the talent to play another 20 years and score more runs than anyone. He lived up to that talent, the perseverance is there and I congratulate him on that stupendous achievement." Wasim said as a bowler he always liked to get his wicket. "He was a batsman, bowlers loved to hate and his wicket was always a prized wicket for me." Another former great Zaheer Abbas said Tendulkar is a legend in himself. "You get to listen that he is a legend and he is a legend, but Tendulkar is the real legend," said Abbas, himself regared as Asian Bradman. "There are so many greats and its tough to compare them. Whoever has seen Bradman called him incomparable. But we live in this era when Tendulkar played cricket and we are honoured to have seen him play." Legendary leg-spinner Abdul Qadir said Tendulkar deserves every record in the book. "Tendulkar will set records which will be tough to break. We will need another Tendulkar, in fact Twelevekar to break his records." "I remember he hit me for three sixes in an over when I was at my peak and he started his cricket on the 1989 tour. I got angry but having watched him over the years has been a great delight." Current Pakistan paceman Shoaib Akhtar said Tendulkar is the greatest batsman in the world. "We are lucky to have seen Lara and Tendulkar playing with us. When I took his wicket I couldn't sleep for a night. He is the doyen of world's batsmen and it's tough to say who is greater among Lara and Tendulkar."

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[Muhammad]

No comments from Inzi, gotta say I'm pretty disappointed as he was Tendy's major rival from the Pak team.

Pathetic that he should stay quiet at this time and stinks of pure jealousy!!!

Well done to the others for coming out and praising him however.

Amazingly Akhtar's debut test was against Lara but he never played another test against him.

[Sultan Yusuf]

Originally Posted by Indieview One of the best article I have read in recent times ... Worth reading it

Article's a bit OTT. I understand the emotional euphoria, but I think the writer needs to get to grips with reality!

[maamrut]

Originally Posted by Sultan Yusuf Article's a bit OTT. I understand the emotional euphoria, but I think the writer needs to get to grips with reality!

which is...what?

[BD-fan]

Originally Posted by Muhammad No comments from Inzi, gotta say I'm pretty disappointed as he was Tendy's major rival from the Pak team. Pathetic that he should stay quiet at this time and stinks of pure jealousy!!!

To give him his dues one has to call a press conference or the press goes to the legends and asks comments?

Inzi is playing ICL right? The main stream media will stay away from him that is given fact. Did Kapil, Indian's one of the greatest cricketers said anything?

[bones20]

Post removed due to offended reactions.

Congratulations to Tendulkar !

[dblock]

A belated well done to Tendulkar

[Afridi_Fan]

Tendulkar marks his true greatness

* Mihir Bose - BBC sports editor
* 17 Oct 08, 02:58 PM

Child prodigies often raise exaggerated hopes which they fail to fulfil, but Sachin Tendulkar has proved the great exception.

Back in February 1988 at the Azad Maidan ground in Bombay (as the city was then called), the 14-year-old Tendulkar made 326 not out against my old school and in the process set a world record for an inter-schools match, participating in a third-wicket stand of 664 - a record which still stands.

Such records are often regarded as cricketing trivia. This one, for example, is listed in Wisden under minor cricket along with the statistic for who has thrown a cricket ball the furthest.

But as I wrote in my History of Indian Cricket: "However the record that the young man helped create at the Sassanian Ground that February day has proved more than a mere cricketing curiosity.

"Over the following decade the boy was to become a cricket wonder and acclaimed as such by no less an authority than Sir Donald Bradman who, shortly before his death, declared that the young man's style was the closest to that of Bradman himself."

Cricket lovers will endlessly debate as to whether Tendulkar is the greatest, as Shane Warne believes.

Many feel Brian Lara, whose Test runs record he has broken, still rates higher and Australia's captain, Ricky Ponting, could well pass him in the years to come - and can any of them really be classified as better than the Don?

What makes Tendulkar exceptional, however, is that his career has been central to the way cricket has changed in the last 20 years since he made his Test debut against Pakistan at the age of 16.

Tendulkar's rise has seen the emergence of India as the economic powerhouse of cricket, providing more than 80% of all world cricket's income. In the process Tendulkar has become one of the highest-paid sportsmen, with an income that bears comparison with the stars of football and motor racing.

In India, a Tendulkar endorsement of a product is almost certain to make it a success and nobody who visits the country can miss the huge billboards displaying his image.

But more than that, in a country where public figures are held in little regard and almost always considered venal and corrupt, Tendulkar has god-like status. I cannot think of any other world sporting figure who has a status that Tendulkar has in India.

His integrity and probity is seldom questioned. Indeed, I remember talking at the height of the cricket corruption crisis with Raj Singh, the then head of Indian cricket.

He turned to me and said: "You know why I believe nobody can fix a cricket match. Because the only man good enough to influence a match on his own is Sachin and he would never even consider doing it. No other cricketer is quite so good, and no other cricketer quite so honest."

Tendulkar's probity has been questioned on occasion, most notably during a tour of South Africa in the winter of 2001 when he was punished for cleaning the ball without an umpire's supervision. India exploded with such wrath that for a time it seemed it would just cut its ties with world cricket.

Earlier this year, when Australia accused Harbhajan Singh of calling Andrew Symonds a "monkey", Indians were indignant that Australians would not take Tendulkar's word that he had not done so and such was the outcry, they threatened to pull the plug on the tour.

India's Sachin Tendulkar sets a new record for the most runs scored by a batsman in Tests

Tendulkar has also been central to other changes in cricket. In 1991, he became the first non-white to ever play for Yorkshire and while his achievements there were not earth shattering he is still seen as an iconic figure in the county.

Tedulkar's style was always more entertaining than that of India's previous great batsman, Sunil Gavaskar, and he was more influenced by West Indians, in particular Vivian Richards, who he so admired.

Yet in recent years some Indians have begun to ask if Tendulkar is so good, why has the team not been more successful?

He was not part of the victorious Indian World Twenty20 team last year and his chances of a World Cup winner's medal are now unlikely. In Tests, meanwhile, a Tendulkar century does not always lead to an Indian victory in contrast with Lara, Ponting and, of course, Bradman.

Those doubts began to emerge back in 1997 on a tour of the West Indies when India required 120 to win in Barbados but were bowled out for 81 and lost by 38 runs. Tendulkar was captain, failed with the bat and it took him days to recover.

It is also worth noting that Tendulkar has never made more than 250 in a Test innings and it was Virender Sehwag, who became the first Indian to break the 300 barrier.

But in judging Tendulkar, we must also take into account that he plays India, who are notorious underperformers in sport. This means when they discover a true genius they put such pressure on him that it can make life impossible.

It is not without significance that his favourite sport outside cricket is Formula One, a sport little known in India, and an indication of his desire to break free from Indian stereotypes.

Tendulkar's ability to cope with the pressures his countrymen impose and still set records shows the mark of his true greatness.

[dblock]

Originally Posted by Muhammad No comments from Inzi, gotta say I'm pretty disappointed as he was Tendy's major rival from the Pak team. Pathetic that he should stay quiet at this time and stinks of pure jealousy!!! Well done to the others for coming out and praising him however. Amazingly Akhtar's debut test was against Lara but he never played another test against him.

How do you know how Inzi was even asked by a Journalist.

[Oxy]

Originally Posted by bones20 In the name of The Almighty, to the Master - Take a bow! Bismillah-e-Rahman-e-Rahim.

Whats all that about?

[Afridi_Fan]

I never thought that I would say this about Tendulkar.

*Gets up from my chair and claps for the Genius of cricket*

Well Done Sir Sachin Tendulkar.You are one heck of a player and a role model for cricketers to come after you.Really well deserved and Well done again.

[Taurus]

True greatness within cricket can be unattainable even for those with the most prodigious of gifts. Unlike other sports, where trophies can be won almost on a monthly basis, cricket is defined by less rigid competitions, and the only real targets can be, firstly, to reach the top of the Test Rankings and, secondly, to win the World Cup. In neither respect has Tendulkar succeeded, admittedly through no fault of his own. But greatness within other sports is about winning, about being the fulcrum of your side and leading the country to glory. I don't honestly think that Tendulkar has attained greatness on that basis. He has achieved brilliance and inspiration, but I think greatness was unattainable whilst he was a shining light in a generation of very good batsmen. I'd rather have Lara as an effervescent and glorious batsman, and I'd rather have Ponting as an out-and-out run scorer. A mechanical nature that has slipped into Tendulkar's batting in the last half-a-decade may have tainted my view of him somewhat, I simply don't get that flutter of excitement in my heart when he comes to the crease in the same way I did with Lara and the same way I still do with Ponting.

Call it blasphemy, but I think Tendulkar is over-rated. His iconic status has inspired a legend that exceeds his achievements. He was brilliant, he is now very good, but the memories he left me with were few and far between. The fireworks were fitting for me after the achievement, it was almost as if you needed an explosion to remember Tendulkar by.

[Afridi_Fan]

Originally Posted by bones20 In the name of The Almighty, to the Master - Take a bow! Bismillah-e-Rahman-e-Rahim.

Hello Man, are you out of your head, What the heck does that mean?

[Oxy]

Originally Posted by Augustus Call it blasphemy, but I think Tendulkar is over-rated. His iconic status has inspired a legend that exceeds his achievements. He was brilliant, he is now very good...

Oh dear....you are a 'dead man'...........

[The WagonWheel]

Originally Posted by Augustus True greatness within cricket can be unattainable even for those with the most prodi.......... ...................... The fireworks were fitting for me after the achievement, it was almost as if you needed an explosion to remember Tendulkar by.

Dont agree with you though, but brilliantly put especially the last sentence.

[bones20]

Originally Posted by Afridi_Fan Hello Man, are you out of your head, What the heck does that mean?

I am bowing down to this achievement. Do you comprehend it differently?

[wanted_desi]

"I'm not here to answer to what x, y and z is writing or saying about me. It is their opinions, and I don't take all those opinions seriously ... But sometimes I don't know how they can figure out what's going on in my mind when sometimes I myself can't figure that out."
Tendulkar to His bashers

[Osman]

say what you want about Sachin Tendulkar ... fact is the guys a legend ... one of the greatest batsman to ever play the game ... end of.

[lollol]

Originally Posted by bublubhuyan Only reason you see ? I'd say only reason any normal cricket fan would see. And when you say it, they'll come up with a lot of factors like this and that, and this player is this, this player is that, and therefore they are correct. What surprises me is that how is it that us Indians never fail to see talent in Pakistani players and always admire geniuses like Akram, Waqar, Imran, etc

U guys always said the only thing they could do was ball tampering

Thats what i heard from the majority of indian fans irl/on internet a few years ago. But ofcourse, this has changed now with Wasim becoming friends with India

But u bublubuyan, are one of the most distinctive indian fan. I wish every indian supporter was like this.

[lollol]

Originally Posted by Augustus Call it blasphemy, but I think Tendulkar is over-rated. His iconic status has inspired a legend that exceeds his achievements. He was brilliant, he is now very good, but the memories he left me with were few and far between. The fireworks were fitting for me after the achievement, it was almost as if you needed an explosion to remember Tendulkar by.

I consider Tendulkar as (one of the) best batsmen ive seen, but i still find him overrated

The most important reason for that is that he is Indian, and we all know how big the indian population is and how passionate they are about cricket

[Omar Malik]

Congrats to the little maestro on achieving this milestone!

[Romali_rotti]

The family is thrilled: Anjali Tendulkar
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Mumbai: Sachin's wife Anjali spoke on behalf of the family and clarified that Sachin has many more yards to go and that the little master has no immediate plan for retirement.


"I can be 100 per cent assured that Sachin will never play for a minute longer when he is not enjoying himself. He still is so eager to go and play. He will continue as long as he feels he can play."


He further added that there had been no pressure from the Indian Cricket Board (BCCI) for Tendulkar to retire.


"So far there has been nothing from the BCCI side and I don't know how these rumours started. Nobody is telling anyone that you have to retire," said Anjali on Friday after Tendulkar became the highest run getter in Test history.


She also said that Sachin never plays for records. "He never plays for records, he never does it."


Recalling the feeling when Tendulkar reached the landmark today, Anjali said that she was never too excited.


"It was as usual stressful. I was watching all alone, the kids were in school," she said adding their son Arjun was more worried about his written test in Taekwando.


"I was siting in one place and had full concentration on the match. Only after he achieves whatever he achieves, it all sinks in and then I felt great," Anjali said, adding, "I spoke to him. He is very happy, but still it's a very

long way to the end of the match. He was a little unhappy to miss the century."


Elaborating on family's reaction on his feat, Anjali said, "We as a family are very happy. But our family is not the one who will do something big, jump and

celebrate. His mother is a very religious person and first thing she prepared some sweets, placed it before god and prayed."

[Caved12]

Congrats Sachin the Great Tendulkar. I would love to see him play for another 2 or 3 years.

[bones20]

Originally Posted by lollol U guys always said the only thing they could do was ball tampering Thats what i heard from the majority of indian fans irl/on internet a few years ago. But ofcourse, this has changed now with Wasim becoming friends with India But u bublubuyan, are one of the most distinctive indian fan. I wish every indian supporter was like this.

Thats rediculous. All Indian cricket fans admire WA, WY, IK, SA, IH etc. In fact, my feeling is that we admire them even more than the pakistanis do. You can take a poll here are see for yourself if you find any Indian not in appreciation of either of these cricketers.

[rhapsodite]

Pakistan cricket needs someone like Sachin, someone who is willing to dedicate his entire life to for the sake of his team and cricket.

[bones20]

Originally Posted by rhapsodite Pakistan cricket needs someone like Sachin, someone who is willing to dedicate his entire life to for the sake of his team and cricket.

Now that is also not exactly true. He is no saint mind you. Cricket has been his passion since he was 4 and he has worked hard on it and enjoyed it and played it as best as he can. It was by no means an unselfish act.

[Romali_rotti]

I have always given credit where it is due, I admire & have the atmost respect for Pakistani bowlers such as; Wasim, Imran, Waqar, Saqqy etc.. However I do not admire INZI as I honestly feel he is an average batsmen but you wont see me bashing him the way some Pak fans bash SRT for the sake of it...In general you will notice Indians give waaaaayyyyyyyyyy more props and admire Pakistani players than Pak fans doing the same for the Indian players...

[Bublu Bhuyan]

Originally Posted by lollol U guys always said the only thing they could do was ball tampering Thats what i heard from the majority of indian fans irl/on internet a few years ago. But ofcourse, this has changed now with Wasim becoming friends with India But u bublubuyan, are one of the most distinctive indian fan. I wish every indian supporter was like this.

Wasim have been one of my cricketing heroes for a long time. I'd in fact pick up a verbal fight with anyone who bashes Akram in front of me. I'm the last person to demean him. You can check all my posts on PP, I've never made fun of or insulted any Pakistani player, unless provoked. And the only person whom I had fights with was Cars 112 (thankfully he have left PP after the verbal dose he got from me). And you know it as well what kind of a person Cars 112 is and how rude and mannerless he was towards us Indian fans.

[Bublu Bhuyan]

Originally Posted by lollol U guys always said the only thing they could do was ball tampering Thats what i heard from the majority of indian fans irl/on internet a few years ago. But ofcourse, this has changed now with Wasim becoming friends with India But u bublubuyan, are one of the most distinctive indian fan. I wish every indian supporter was like this.

I didn't understand what you said (in bold). Would you care to explain ?

[siddharth]

Congrats Sachin .

[Easa]

A superb achievement from a batsman with undeniable talent and pure gifted ability. When a batsman like him, starts his career like he did, with his irresistible panache and ferocious aggressiveness, pundits will write about him. Especially, when he hails from a country like India, where cricketers fluctuate from being treated as Gods, to being enemy number one, Sachin has done superbly over the 19 years of his career. Hype like that can put undue pressure on cricketers, but he has combated this hype by being, and still performing, as one of the best ever.

I, like many others, would still prefer the Tendulkar of yesteryear, the Tendulkar who played breathtaking strokes and mesmerized fans and opposition alike with the unbelievable things he did with a cricket bat. I miss that, as do many others. But I think where lies the greatness of the man, and the reason why he's still so immensely popular, is that he changed his game not for himself, but for his cricket team, for his nation. And I think sacrifice like that deserves the utmost credit which he is getting, and which he deserves to get for many, many decades to come.

[Romali_rotti]

Originally Posted by Easa A superb achievement from a batsman with undeniable talent and pure gifted ability. When a batsman like him, starts his career like he did, with his irresistible panache and ferocious aggressiveness, pundits will write about him. Especially, when he hails from a country like India, where cricketers fluctuate from being treated as Gods, to being enemy number one, Sachin has done superbly over the 19 years of his career. Hype like that can put undue pressure on cricketers, but he has combated this hype by being, and still performing, as one of the best ever. I, like many others, would still prefer the Tendulkar of yesteryear, the Tendulkar who played breathtaking strokes and mesmerized fans and opposition alike with the unbelievable things he did with a cricket bat. I miss that, as do many others. But I think where lies the greatness of the man, and the reason why he's still so immensely popular, is that he changed his game not for himself, but for his cricket team, for his nation. And I think sacrifice like that deserves the utmost credit which he is getting, and which he deserves to get for many, many decades to come.

Spoke like a champ Easa boy , if only more Pak fans were like yourself....

[khilari]

very happy for tendulkar... i wish he was in our team

[lollol]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti Spoke like a champ Easa boy , if only more Pak fans were like yourself....

99% of the posts here are congratulating Tendulkar with this achievement... and still its not good enough?

Remember this is a Pakistani forum, u will always get some guys who arent happy with Sachin...

And about Indian having respect for talent of Pakistan, of course that would be true for Indian fans on PAKpassion (why would they visit a PAK forum if they werent....), but im talking about other indian/mixed forums. We all know that more fighting goes on between those supporters there

But id like to stop on this subject, as it will create even more tensions

In the end, a legend like Tendulkar has made history today, everyone knows that!

Originally Posted by bublubhuyan I didn't understand what you said (in bold). Would you care to explain ?

U are one of those indian fans, who looks at things unbiased. U dont see this often in IND/PAK supporters. That has really caught my attention.
Infact, if u didnt had a Indian flag, i wouldnt even know ur a Indian supporter..

[lollol]

Originally Posted by khilari very happy for tendulkar... i wish he was in our team

Maybe he can teach our batsmen something after he retired as is doing with indian batsmen?

Im serious, i really hope some Indian batsmen gets a offer for that. Pakistan simply doesn't have the batting talent required to coach batsmen....

[Milroastnescafe]

All those runs, yet never when India needed them most... Strange.

[lollol]

Originally Posted by Milroastnescafe All those runs, yet never when India needed them most... Strange.

Yawn, its getting boring, hearing this for over 10 yrs....

Test cricket can NEVER EVER depend on one man.....

[Bublu Bhuyan]

Originally Posted by Milroastnescafe All those runs, yet never when India needed them most... Strange.

Grapes are really sour, LOL.

[wanted_desi]

Originally Posted by bublubhuyan Grapes are really sour, LOL.

It is funny that with his brilliance, tendulkar has won many hearts over the time, but also broke some

[Romali_rotti]

Originally Posted by lollol 99% of the posts here are congratulating Tendulkar with this achievement... and still its not good enough? Remember this is a Pakistani forum, u will always get some guys who arent happy with Sachin... And about Indian having respect for talent of Pakistan, of course that would be true for Indian fans on PAKpassion (why would they visit a PAK forum if they werent....), but im talking about other indian/mixed forums. We all know that more fighting goes on between those supporters there But id like to stop on this subject, as it will create even more tensions In the end, a legend like Tendulkar has made history today, everyone knows that! U are one of those indian fans, who looks at things unbiased. U dont see this often in IND/PAK supporters. That has really caught my attention. Infact, if u didnt had a Indian flag, i wouldnt even know ur a Indian supporter..

Ok I get your point, I will change what I said; everyone who has given props in this thread including yourself showed class, and once again Thank you !!!!!...However in reality I dont need to achknowledge posters like Momo etc as they are all class anyway and they know how I feel about em...

[Romali_rotti]

Originally Posted by bublubhuyan Grapes are really sour, LOL.

Just let him go, he is just Mil_Toast_Cafe_ after running a muck about how his side would trash us now he has suddenly become humble and less talkative.. Seems to have taken the safe route out since he feels he may end up eating the humble pie by the end of the series ..

[KB]

He has kept his feet on the ground. Others would not have coped quite so well with the immense celebrity status. Lara and Warne at times self-destructed but not Tendulkar.

[kingusama92]

Sachin truly is a legend... was really nice to see him break that record... He has really become the epitome of class in my eyes.. not just because he's conquered almost every feat there is to conquer, but also because he has carried himself without showing any sense of acting like a showoff... and that's why I regard him as a truly great batsman...

Although I still think Ponting is the best batsman ever ...

[Tupac]

Originally Posted by Milroastnescafe All those runs, yet never when India needed them most... Strange.

tonight you can roast your nescafe long and hard boy, aussies are going to be roasted big time.

[Savak]

Originally Posted by KB He has kept his feet on the ground. Others would not have coped quite so well with the immense celebrity status. Lara and Warne at times self-destructed but not Tendulkar.

That i agree with. Unbelievable how he always kept his feet on the ground. He must be the richest cricketer in the history of cricket.

[Easa]

I disagree with a few people up there.

Arrogance is a vital, extremely crucial facet of batting. It's the reason why players like Tendulkar and Lara have tasted such success, and the reason why Pietersen will in the future. It's the mind-set of the truly great; the personality of knowing you're the greatest, and knowing it's going to be your day. It's not taught, it's an innate mechanism held dearest to the heart of those who are meant to be. It's a natural thought process, an over-bearing, all encompassing way of cricket, the way it needs to be played, the way it deserves to be played. It's what it needs to be.

[tmac4real]

Amazing achievement. This test match is shaping to be pretty awesome. Ganguly's century against the arch rival team of his career in his last series. Tendu passing Lara and 12,000. Arrival of Dhoni as a test captain perhaps? (mabye that's overexaggerating) and MAYBE JUST MAYBE a India win?

[Oxy]

Apart from sheer volume of runs, I think his main asset on the pitchh is how he bats without becoming distracted by anyone - I dont think sledging really works on him. I dont recall him ever reacting to any Pak, Aus, Eng sledging - and that includes the likes of the 2 Ws, Shoaib, MacGrath, Merv Hughes, CAddick etc etc etc

I always though somelike Inzi could have been 10% better had he batted with that mindset - too many things got under his skin.

I think its time for him to call it a day though - I dont see anyone topping 12k runs - the move tpwards T20 cricket is in full swing and the cricket calendar is likely to be made up of more IPL type tournaments, at the expense of test cricket.

[bones20]

Originally Posted by Easa I disagree with a few people up there. Arrogance is a vital, extremely crucial facet of batting. It's the reason why players like Tendulkar and Lara have tasted such success, and the reason why Pietersen will in the future. It's the mind-set of the truly great; the personality of knowing you're the greatest, and knowing it's going to be your day. It's not taught, it's an innate mechanism held dearest to the heart of those who are meant to be. It's a natural thought process, an over-bearing, all encompassing way of cricket, the way it needs to be played, the way it deserves to be played. It's what it needs to be.

Focus and reserved nature can be confused for arrogance. Arrogance is more closer to being mean, pompous and proud and Tendulkar is neither of these.

[jusarrived]

not been a fan of his batting post 2000 & been critical of his lack of match winning innnigs in his career ...a lot of people agree with me on that , but the same people saying lara is better is nuthing but bias imo .....lara was as bad as tendulkar when it comes to match winning contributions to his team ...in every other sense tendulkar is better , be it technique or talent ...only lara is better to watch with his exaggerated back lift .......& btw there are people who actually get excited when pointing comes to bat ? haha

it was one of his better knocks & am happy the record was broken playing against a quality opposition ...well done & i hope he continues to play the way hes been doing for last 6-9 months till he decides to call it a day ...it will be difficult for me to see an inidan team without the likes of Ganguly , tendulkar , dravid , laxman & kumble !

[Savak]

Originally Posted by jusarrived not been a fan of his batting post 2000 & been critical of his lack of match winning innnigs in his career ...a lot of people agree with me on that , but the same people saying lara is better is nuthing but bias imo .....lara was as bad as tendulkar when it comes to match winning contributions to his team ...in every other sense tendulkar is better , be it technique or talent ...only lara is better to watch with his exaggerated back lift .......& btw there are people who actually get excited when pointing comes to bat ? haha it was one of his better knocks & am happy the record was broken playing against a quality opposition ...well done & i hope he continues to play the way hes been doing for last 6-9 months till he decides to call it a day ...it will be difficult for me to see an inidan team without the likes of Ganguly , tendulkar , dravid , laxman & kumble !

Lara had a really really weak West Indian team to look after. Team's do not win just on the shoulders of one person. It has to be a team effort. Overall Lara when on song was the most entertaining to watch. Tendulkar benefited from 2000 onwards because of the fact that his team stopped singlehandedly relying on him to score. Unfortunately as far as Lara is concerned he never had the same luxury ever in his career. Lara is one of the many players who when delivered with the bat was let down by his team mates.

[jusarrived]

Originally Posted by Savak Lara had a really really weak West Indian team to look after. Team's do not win just on the shoulders of one person. It has to be a team effort. Overall Lara when on song was the most entertaining to watch. Tendulkar benefited from 2000 onwards because of the fact that his team stopped singlehandedly relying on him to score. Unfortunately as far as Lara is concerned he never had the same luxury ever in his career. Lara is one of the many players who when delivered with the bat was let down by his team mates.

but for most part of lara's career he had the support of better bowling attack compared to Sachin ...great players are ones who can win single handedly ...so both lara and tendu in my books will remain as two players who failed to do justice to their exceptional talents ....in his short career KP has already played some of these knocks , so my expectations aren't unreasonable ....if KP can continue to do this for another 7-8 years , i will certanly put him above these two !

[Savak]

Originally Posted by jusarrived but for most part of lara's career he had the support of better bowling attack compared to Sachin ...great players are ones who can win single handedly ...so both lara and tendu in my books will remain as two players who failed to do justice to their exceptional talents ....in his short career KP has already played some of these knocks , so my expectations aren't unreasonable ....if KP can continue to do this for another 7-8 years , i will certanly put him above these two !

Other than bowlers we have to consider fellow batsman as well. Lara had Walsh, Ambrose who were good bowlers yes but these 3 rarely always clicked together and in order to win a match i would say you would need atleast half the team to click together. Anyways, not saying Tendulkar wasnt a great player which would be a huge joke but i always found Lara would more entertaining to watch. I credit Lara for not changing the aggressive nature of his batting.

[bones20]

When we talk about Tendulkar, we are not just talking about an exceptional cricketer. We are talking about an exceptional cricketer and human. How many people have we seen in life so consistently balanced and unaffected by either success or failure? Isnt that unhuman? isnt that super human? how many times have you seen sachin getting arrogant about success or too upset about failure? he hasnt for most of the time. he is a special being.

he knows something unknowingly, we dont know! he is the buddha.

[Rickz]

Well done Sachin Tendulkar! such a exeptional cricketer and has the greatest qualities of human nature. It couldn't have had happen to a better person. Such a remarkable feat, he thoroughly deserves it.

[DHONI183]

Originally Posted by Oxy Whats all that about?

Originally Posted by Afridi_Fan Hello Man, are you out of your head, What the heck does that mean?

I think both of you should now edit your own post and remove the quoted lines (since the original post itself has been edited). It will be good!

[PlanetPakistan]

Well done to SRTRecord is the evidence of both efficiency and endurance.

Think its fitting that Lara had this record, Sachin has it now and Ponting will probably have it in a couple of years.

[kingusama92]

look at this quote from his wife after day 1...

"Why did you get out to such a silly shot?"

Anjali Tendulkar tells off her record-breaking husband for a poor stroke.

[itduzz]

Just saw the 1st day and when sachin surpassed Lara record, there were only abt 5000 people in the ground with most of them were school children.....I was expecting a full house to cheer Sachin record.....

[bones20]

I doubt. We can see Sachin forever. We like to see him still ever so eager and focused to bat. Even in local matches and club matches, he plays with 100% focus while batting.

[Sparhawk]

Originally Posted by bones20 When we talk about Tendulkar, we are not just talking about an exceptional cricketer. We are talking about an exceptional cricketer and human. How many people have we seen in life so consistently balanced and unaffected by either success or failure? Isnt that unhuman? isnt that super human? how many times have you seen sachin getting arrogant about success or too upset about failure? he hasnt for most of the time. he is a special being. he knows something unknowingly, we dont know! he is the buddha.