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Old 27th October 2008, 16:24
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Cairns and Mongia suspended by the ICL - Match Fixing!

On disciplinary grounds - interesting :0

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ci/co...ml?CMP=OTC-RSS
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Old 27th October 2008, 18:35
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lmao, the official story is that cairns didn't disclose an injury, and mongia knew about it. Hence both were suspended.

Well if you believe this, you'll believe anything.

Umm so what's the real reason and why the cover up. Lets hope no one from the icl has been associating with bookies now
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Old 27th October 2008, 18:41
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^^^It's nothing unbelievable. Cairns tried to con the ICL by not informing them of an injury that he picked up elsewhere so that he could get his paycheck. That explains his appaling form this season. Can't understand why Mongia has been fined so hard though.
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Old 27th October 2008, 18:58
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by readin what cricinfo has written in the article, i guess it is justified that those two were suspended!
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Old 27th October 2008, 19:10
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something seem's off about this
Mongia's fine seems way too harsh
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Old 27th October 2008, 22:05
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Chandigarh, October 27 : The Indian Cricket League on Monday announced the suspension of former India batsman Dinesh Mongia and former New Zealand all-rounder Chris Cairns in a two-line statement issued by its press office. The two players represented the Chandigarh Lions, of which Cairns was the captain, in the ‘rebel’ T20 league. South African Andrew Hall has been named as the team’s replacement skipper.

But, while ICL officials were tight-lipped on the issue, declining to come on the record to reveal further information on the suspension, a senior source in the league told The Indian Express that the step had been taken due to allegations of “under-performance” against the players.

According to the source, an enquiry has been ordered and, if found guilty, both players would be penalised. “Till then, they’ve only been suspended,” he said.

“Under-performance is a serious threat to ICL. We’re worried over players with hefty contracts taking their association with the ICL too lightly and not performing to their potential. Under-performing cricketers set a bad example for others and bring the league to disrepute. But the honeymoon period for such players is over.”

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Mo...rmance-/378595
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Old 27th October 2008, 22:33
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Poor Mongia can't even get his paycheck now aswell on trying to keep his lips sealed for his skipper Cairns!
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Old 28th October 2008, 02:25
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Chris Cairns and Dinesh Mongia suspended for MATCH-FIXING

It is being reported that the Indian Cricket League (ICL) on Monday suspended former internationals Chris Cairns and Dinesh Mongia, both belonging to Chandigarh Lions, for their alleged involvement in match-fixing.

Cairns, the former New Zealand allrounder, was captain of the Chandigarh Lions, while Dinesh Mongia, the former India allrounder, was one of the premier batsmen in the team.

According to a report in Aaj Tak, the Indian Cricket League (ICL) is said to be in possession of evidence of the involvement of these two players in fixing matches, while the report also claimed that several other players had admitted to being involved in the match-fixing episode, but had asked for pardon.

The reports of match-fixing couldn't have come at a worse time for the ICL, who have been pursuing with the ICC their case for authorisation of the league, and the ICC had instructed the BCCI to look into the application.

Cricket was plagued by a match-fixing episode earlier at the start of this decade, when several players, including former captains Hansie Cronje of South Africa and Mohammad Azharuddin of India, and several other players including Ata-ur-Rehman, Ajay Jadeja, Manoj Prabhakar, Salim Malik and Mushtaq Ahmed were said to be involved in throwing matches away in exchange for money.

http://www.cricketnirvana.com/news/i...81028-741.html
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Old 28th October 2008, 02:33
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I always suspected Cairns of Match fixing in the ICL. I always did. His performances were just so bloody fishy. I even created a thread on this in the last ICL season

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...ad.php?t=55561
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Old 28th October 2008, 02:37
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I think this is quite common in the ICL/IPL.

I mean if you're attracting players on the sole basis of huge pay packets and convincing them to skip playing International cricket for their countries in order to fill their pockets then you're starting them down a dangerous road.
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Old 28th October 2008, 02:42
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Cairns and Mongia are the players who already have made enough money from the profession of cricket. I really don't understand their greed, what kind of people are they.. disgusting.
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Old 28th October 2008, 02:44
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So, that mean Lahore Badshah deliberately lost to winner in last two tournament?... still suspicious on Lahore Badshah and to figure out that how could they throw wickets just in a hurry?
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Old 28th October 2008, 02:59
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Who cares ICL is a joke league anyway. Match fixing no great sin in a competition which happily destroys other countries cricket teams in the name of Indian money.
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Old 28th October 2008, 04:44
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Bad news for world cricket. Both of them seemed to be very nice and honest guys.
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Old 28th October 2008, 04:46
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My suspicions on Cairns became clear when he continously blocked 6-8 deliveries at a time when his team needed like 13-15 runs per over and then he blocked the ball and tried to take a single which wasnt on and got himself run out. Not once, i repeat, not once did this man try to clear the boundry even though he is so easily capable of doing it.

Clear Match fixing symptoms as far as i am concerned.
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Old 28th October 2008, 04:57
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Bad news for world cricket. Both of them seemed to be very nice and honest guys.
Only if you consider ICL part of world cricket
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Old 28th October 2008, 05:01
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Only if you consider ICL part of world cricket
It does not matter.
This is like betraying your employer, h is hired by his respective franchise and is expected to give 100%.
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Old 28th October 2008, 05:12
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All the more for the ICL to be recognized by the ICC. Hopefully this will lead to more ICC involvement and anti corruption efforts to root out match fixing.
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Old 28th October 2008, 05:16
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It does not matter.
This is like betraying your employer, h is hired by his respective franchise and is expected to give 100%.
Betraying your employer is a little different to betraying your country
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Old 28th October 2008, 05:17
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All the more for the ICL to be recognized by the ICC. Hopefully this will lead to more ICC involvement and anti corruption efforts to root out match fixing.
Yeah everytime the ICC get involved in something they make things so much better
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Old 28th October 2008, 05:19
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Betraying your employer is a little different to betraying your country
One who betrays employer would most likely betray country too, for the right amount of zeroes.

Fact of the matter is it's wrong be it for country or for icl match.
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Old 28th October 2008, 05:23
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One who betrays employer would most likely betray country too, for the right amount of zeroes.

Fact of the matter is it's wrong be it for country or for icl match.
Yup and its betrayal of the fans too. I mean, poor Savak was heartbroken after that performance by Cairns.
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Old 28th October 2008, 06:30
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Yup and its betrayal of the fans too. I mean, poor Savak was heartbroken after that performance by Cairns.
Cos the fans are expecting a bunch of broken down ex cricketers and hacks who can't make their national side to be the highest standard of competitive cricket....
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Old 28th October 2008, 06:41
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My suspicions on Cairns became clear when he continously blocked 6-8 deliveries at a time when his team needed like 13-15 runs per over and then he blocked the ball and tried to take a single which wasnt on and got himself run out. Not once, i repeat, not once did this man try to clear the boundry even though he is so easily capable of doing it.

Clear Match fixing symptoms as far as i am concerned.
alas, when hall only gave away 1 run in his opening over, he was taken out of the attack...
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Old 28th October 2008, 06:43
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I call for a Life Ban on Cairns and Mongia. These guys must never ever be allowed to set foot on a Cricket field again.
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Old 28th October 2008, 10:36
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Why is cricinfo reporting it as a suspension for not reporting an injury he was carrying. Is it a cover up? Indian news sites saying they were banned due to match fixing.
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Old 28th October 2008, 10:38
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Life bans

This should carry a zero tolerance approach, maximum deterrence. Not a sniff of this should ever approach the game.
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Old 28th October 2008, 11:19
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ahaa .. i knew it ... see the badshaas performance in the finals of the last tournament !!
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Old 28th October 2008, 11:43
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another nail in the coffin of the icl.

Makes you think though, despite being paid so much (that too in retirement) if someone of Cairn's stature is involved in match fixing then god knows who else is on the international scene.

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Old 28th October 2008, 13:24
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It wasn´t a that serious matter, was it?
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Old 28th October 2008, 15:43
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My suspicions on Cairns became clear when he continously blocked 6-8 deliveries at a time when his team needed like 13-15 runs per over and then he blocked the ball and tried to take a single which wasnt on and got himself run out. Not once, i repeat, not once did this man try to clear the boundry even though he is so easily capable of doing it.

Clear Match fixing symptoms as far as i am concerned.

Was this the match you're talking about?


http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/icl/e...ch/344721.html

World XI needed 70 something from 9 overs when cairns came in yet he continued to defend ball after ball.
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Old 28th October 2008, 15:49
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SOmeone created a thread about this afew days ago - asking whether it was still prevelant.

And we got it right - T20 is the perfect vehicle - in India.
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Old 28th October 2008, 15:55
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Was this the match you're talking about?


http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/icl/e...ch/344721.html

World XI needed 70 something from 9 overs when cairns came in yet he continued to defend ball after ball.
Yep this was it. That match was fixed. I know it. Cairns blocked, blocked, blocked even though he is such a lethal hitter of the ball. Then sends Attapatu before Vanderwath when the run rate is like 12-14 runs per over and sends Vanderwath when the match is already lost.

His peculiar batting in that entire tournament especially that match plus the fact he was the captain and made some weird decisions led me to the suspicion that he was deliberately under performing/ not giving his 100% to please someone else.

I dont make tall claims nor do i say stuff without solid backing.
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Old 28th October 2008, 17:21
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Why the need to fix the matches when you're making so much 'ICL dosh' in the first place?!
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Old 28th October 2008, 17:34
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they are there to make money. The concept of ICL/IPL is to make money. The players had plenty of cricket outside of these clubs, infact some used to complain there is too much cricket and they were getting paid well then too
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Old 28th October 2008, 17:44
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And I wouldn't be too surprised if some retired players in IPL are doing the same thing. Afterall its all about the money.
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Old 28th October 2008, 17:50
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I don't think there will be much of it, especially from current players. It probably is a dangerous game if one gets involved and I don't just mean reputaion or bans
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Old 28th October 2008, 18:29
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Can this episode be used against the ICL in a court of law to prevent their recognition?
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Old 28th October 2008, 18:41
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I think this is quite common in the ICL/IPL.

I mean if you're attracting players on the sole basis of huge pay packets and convincing them to skip playing International cricket for their countries in order to fill their pockets then you're starting them down a dangerous road.
It amazing how you conveniently link IPL to this!

McCain camp and the republicans are actively recruiting people like you!
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Old 28th October 2008, 18:42
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And I wouldn't be too surprised if some retired players in IPL are doing the same thing. Afterall its all about the money.
Will Mr Shane Warne, please stand up, please stand up...

ICL/IPL have become the hot-bed for match-fixing and I am afraid it is going to get much more worse when this all go ahead full-steam in the coming years...
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Old 28th October 2008, 18:57
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I am pretty sure Shane Warne integrity shouldn't be questioned at all after his successful tournament IPL, as captain to guide the team victory.
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Old 28th October 2008, 19:48
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It amazing how you conveniently link IPL to this!

McCain camp and the republicans are actively recruiting people like you!
I said during the IPL that it was just like the WWE, IPL/ICL are both 'sports entertainment' type tournaments.

More importantly you have a situation where players are paid big money to give it priority over their national teams and their local teams. For example any IPL contracted players in the forthcoming Champions League must play for IPL and not their local teams if both teams qualify. Then you have the SL players being pressured ot pull out of their England tour, etc

Also IPL is awash with Bollywood stars like SRK both the Indian film industry and SRK are well linked to the Indian underworld which is linked to Indian bookmakers, etc.

With all that going on I'd be surprised if it wasn't fixed

Then you have ICL being run by guys like Kapil Dev so no points for guessing correctl on that score either!

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Old 28th October 2008, 19:49
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I remember predicting this a while ago:

Pointless cricket + huge amounts of money + Indian bookmakers = match-fixing paradise.

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