Sachin Tendulkar Mega-Discussion Thread

[aanand]

Bogus thread

[DeadlyVenom]

Originally Posted by pakigoneaussie Can't wait till this gets bumped

I will bump it when Tendulkar retires and the OP is right

[zains_rulez]

He will get above 100 Man , where are you living ?

[Afridi_Fan]

This is one stupid thread.

[ITGuy]

Originally Posted by TukTuk I am 100% sure that he will never get the 100th century he is looking for. He will end up just like bradman average of 99. If he gets it i will eat non-veg for the first time in my life. P:s I am an Indian

Spoken like a true Vegetable

[Zohaib Shah]

Yes Sachin will never get his hundred as I will never get a Lawyer.

Seriously are you serious man? Are you doing all this for attention? Him getting a 100 will be nothing new to me at all. And it may happen sooner rather then later. IF you think pressure will be cause of his downfall .Then don't you think every cricket hes played till now has been with huge Pressure of his country? Your Whole country relies on one man to Score and that is Sachin. Therefore after being in pressure for all those years your saying he wont be able to a score a 100? What a Dumb Thread this is I will see you once he gets a 100 on his first match. until then bye bye

[MajidBhuta-AamirFan]

Originally Posted by TukTuk I am 100% sure that he will never get the 100th century he is looking for. He will end up just like bradman average of 99. If he gets it i will eat non-veg for the first time in my life. P:s I am an Indian

i can't believe how people have so much time to post so much nonsense!

[munna_]

badman's ave and tendulkar's centuries.... whats the connection?

ok so its ur belief that he won't get 100 centuries .. but at least explain why u believe so???

p.s: threads like this are always fun when one party Fails

[Tera Gawaandi]

Sachin = Sabzi = Meat = Indian = Bradman, rofl! whats the connection?

[freelance_cricketer]

Adjudged Indian Cricketer of the year at the age of 38 @ BCCI awards in Mumbai, 31st May 2011 !

This one's for the haters

[Romali_rotti]

Of all the batsmen I've seen, Tendulkar is greatest: Richards
PTI | Jun 3, 2011, 10.04am IST


PORT OF SPAIN: Batting legend Viv Richards has not seen Sir Donald Bradman but of all those he has seen, including compatriot Brian Lara, none has been better than iconic Indian Sachin Tendulkar.

"I didn't see Don but to me, in all my years associated with the game, I haven't seen a better batsman than Sachin Tendulkar," said Richards in a eulogy to the "little man", who openly professes to have idolised him while growing up.

"If there is a better batsman than Sachin then he hasn't arrived yet."

In one stroke, Richards put Tendulkar in a pedestal above his contemporaries such as Brian Lara, Ricky Ponting and Jacques Kallis and even to the legends such as Sunil Gavaskar and Javed Miandad of his era.

As for Bradman, his career lasted 20 years including a few years disrupted by Second World War. Tendulkar is already in his 22nd year of international cricket. Bradman scored 29 centuries in 52 Tests.

In all formats of the game, Tendulkar has 99 international centuries so far.

"To me the most remarkable thing about Tendulkar is how he has completed the full cycle of his cricketing career, overcoming, pain, agony, failures, fatigue, injuries yet continuing relentlessly till the point the circle was complete.

"He is the most complete package, the cricketer I respect more than anyone else."

Richards defended Tendulkar's decision to skip the complete West Indies tour.

"He is 37 and not getting any younger. You have got to respect him for his decision," said Richards as he turned up for a Johnny Walker promotional event at Queen's Park Oval on yesterday afternoon.

"He has done enough to decide what is best for him. He knows his commitments and the approach he must take for the rest of his career."

It doesn't though stop Richards from lamenting how much Tendulkar's presence could have done to inspire the young cricketers of the Caribbean.

"It would have been fantastic for the young boys to just watch him in action; how he prepares his innings; the way he goes about building his knock, overcoming conditions and opponents.

"It could have been an invaluable experience for our young batsmen."

Richards said he feels humbled by the respect and love he still generates within the cricket community of India.

"The other day, I was on a flight to London and Gambhir was with me. I was really touched by his curiosity and the keenness he had to know about batting. It's passion such as this which sets men like him apart. I was really impressed," he said.

It is ironical though that West Indies Cricket Board isn't quite inclined to take advantage of their own legend to improve the standard of cricket in the Caribbean.

"It's a fragile environment. Only strong leaders can accept independent men," said Richards.



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Viv said it, so it must be true

[MR__KHAN__JI]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti Of all the batsmen I've seen, Tendulkar is greatest: Richards PTI | Jun 3, 2011, 10.04am IST PORT OF SPAIN: Batting legend Viv Richards has not seen Sir Donald Bradman but of all those he has seen, including compatriot Brian Lara, none has been better than iconic Indian Sachin Tendulkar. "I didn't see Don but to me, in all my years associated with the game, I haven't seen a better batsman than Sachin Tendulkar," said Richards in a eulogy to the "little man", who openly professes to have idolised him while growing up. "If there is a better batsman than Sachin then he hasn't arrived yet." In one stroke, Richards put Tendulkar in a pedestal above his contemporaries such as Brian Lara, Ricky Ponting and Jacques Kallis and even to the legends such as Sunil Gavaskar and Javed Miandad of his era. As for Bradman, his career lasted 20 years including a few years disrupted by Second World War. Tendulkar is already in his 22nd year of international cricket. Bradman scored 29 centuries in 52 Tests. In all formats of the game, Tendulkar has 99 international centuries so far. "To me the most remarkable thing about Tendulkar is how he has completed the full cycle of his cricketing career, overcoming, pain, agony, failures, fatigue, injuries yet continuing relentlessly till the point the circle was complete. "He is the most complete package, the cricketer I respect more than anyone else." Richards defended Tendulkar's decision to skip the complete West Indies tour. "He is 37 and not getting any younger. You have got to respect him for his decision," said Richards as he turned up for a Johnny Walker promotional event at Queen's Park Oval on yesterday afternoon. "He has done enough to decide what is best for him. He knows his commitments and the approach he must take for the rest of his career." It doesn't though stop Richards from lamenting how much Tendulkar's presence could have done to inspire the young cricketers of the Caribbean. "It would have been fantastic for the young boys to just watch him in action; how he prepares his innings; the way he goes about building his knock, overcoming conditions and opponents. "It could have been an invaluable experience for our young batsmen." Richards said he feels humbled by the respect and love he still generates within the cricket community of India. "The other day, I was on a flight to London and Gambhir was with me. I was really touched by his curiosity and the keenness he had to know about batting. It's passion such as this which sets men like him apart. I was really impressed," he said. It is ironical though that West Indies Cricket Board isn't quite inclined to take advantage of their own legend to improve the standard of cricket in the Caribbean. "It's a fragile environment. Only strong leaders can accept independent men," said Richards. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/s...ow/8707344.cms __________________________________________________ _______________________ Viv said it, so it must be true

From a longevity perspective... no-one comes close to Tendu!

But at any given time there were plenty better....

[freelance_cricketer]

Originally Posted by MR__KHAN__JI From a longevity perspective... no-one comes close to Tendu! But at any given time there were plenty better....

doesn't think so. Straight forward answer from him. the best in any sense he has seen !

[No_Username]

In his era, Tendulkar is surely the best. He can also be declared as the all time best, but unfortunately none of the people currently alive had the opportunity to watch Bradman.

But he would surely be 2nd Best batsmen of all time, so far.

Its a shame for a player like him to not be so successful with hundreds and wins together.

[Indiafan]

Originally Posted by MR__KHAN__JI From a longevity perspective... no-one comes close to Tendu! But at any given time there were plenty better....

Actually Sachin also had many years when he was was at the very peak? At any given time? In the 90s there were only 3 batsman averaging over 50+ and Sachin was almost untochable with a 58+ batting average. Who were the plenty better at that time?

Sachin is much more than lognetivity. He was recognised as one of the greatest ever during the first 7-8 years, i.e 1/3 of his career when he didnt have any records to his name. He has carried the mantle ever since

[No_Username]

Originally Posted by Indiafan Actually Sachin also had many years when he was was at the very peak? At any given time? In the 90s there were only 3 batsman averaging over 50+ and Sachin was almost untochable with a 58+ batting average. Who were the plenty better at that time? Sachin is much more than lognetivity. He was recognised as one of the greatest ever during the first 7-8 years, i.e 1/3 of his career when he didnt have any records to his name. He has carried the mantle ever since

Sachin only averaged 30.5 in his first 70 ODI matches,had a relatively poor start.

But his real peak was 2002, when he averaged 59 in Test Matches.

[freelance_cricketer]

Originally Posted by No_Username Sachin only averaged 30.5 in his first 70 ODI matches,had a relatively poor start. But his real peak was 2002, when he averaged 59 in Test Matches.

He is at his peak right now i would say

[freelance_cricketer]

HaHa, good news for the Tendulkar haters

I am not satisfied yet: Sachin Tendulkar

LONDON: Sachin Tendulkar has almost every batting record that is there to be made under his belt but the iconic Indian cricketer says he is still not satisfied with his career as he considers satisfaction the beginning of stagnation. "When you win something or score a century you say you are happy, but not satisfied. Satisfaction is like engaging the handbrake and hoping a car moves forward," Tendulkar told the latest issue of 'Sky Sports Magazine'. "I am not satisfied yet with my career and what I have done, not at all. I feel the moment you start to feel satisfied, then it is only natural that you begin to cool down and lose it," he explained. Tendulkar reiterated that he is not even thinking of retirement despite completing more than two decades in international cricket. "I still love cricket as much as ever. It is my job, but it is also my passion. Cricket remains in my heart, I don't need anything else to motivate me. I dreamed of playing for my country when I was young and it is still my dream, it is still fun for me," the 38-year-old right-hander said. "Life without cricket is unthinkable," he added. Tendulkar attributed his longevity and recent success to a stricter fitness regime, not playing Twenty20 Internationals and bowling only sparingly. "I am still learning about the game. I figure something out about my batting all the time, you have to keep your mind open. I learn all the time, those small adjustments, with your footwork or bat swing can improve your game, I love doing that. You never know everything. Mentally that makes you feel so good. That is the best form of preparation," Tendulkar said. Recalling India's recent World Cup triumph after a gap of 28 years, Tendulkar said when the defining moment of his career finally arrived, he wasn't in the middle of the field wielding his bat, nor was he even on the balcony watching his teammates. Instead, he was on his own in the dressing room, his hands clasped together, his eyes closed as he prayed in silence. He only knew India had won the World Cup when he heard that cathartic roar reverberate around the Wankhede Stadium in Mumbai as his captain, Mahendra Singh Dhoni hit the winning runs against Sri Lanka. Tendulkar described the experience as "a different kind of feeling, a high, like living on a different planet, it felt as though I was flying." He had waited 22 years for this moment. For all his personal records - and he boasts the most Test runs and Test centuries, and the most One-Day runs and One-Day centuries - Tendulkar wanted something tangible, a trophy to lift, a medal to wear, and to win something as part of an Indian team. Tendulkar had played in the previous five World Cups, but had fallen short each time. The experience left him feeling "shattered beyond words." His fellow players too laud the way Tendulkar has sustained himself at the top level. "It has been fascinating watching the changes in his approach," said teammate Rahul Dravid. "From being a master blaster, he is now a mistake-proof batsman." While he can't control his body ageing, Tendulkar has increasingly sought to exert more control over his mind. "You have to be still in your mind, and keep it blank. It is also important to avoid any needless anger ," he said. "Growing up, I picked up a lot from my father, who never lost his temper, and I tried to follow that, so I don't lose my cool." This impenetrable mask doesn't slip away from the cameras either. "I have never seen him lose his temper in the dressing room, he has never thrown his bat around even when given out wrongly," said Indian pace spearhead Zaheer Khan. "Maybe he will have an extra bowl of ice cream, and that is when you realise he is pretty upset ."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/s...ow/8708661.cms

[anshu1]

Originally Posted by No_Username Sachin only averaged 30.5 in his first 70 ODI matches,had a relatively poor start. But his real peak was 2002, when he averaged 59 in Test Matches.

Sachin started opening quite late in his career...So, the 70 ODI's you are talking about is when Tendu was coming in at no 5 or 6...And yet he was averaging 30, tells you something about his calibre...Further to that, if Sachin was having an avg of 30 till his 70th match, one can imagine what kind of domination he would have reined over others to come up with such an avg later in his career...

[Wiji]

Rahul Dravid admitting secretly that Brian Lara is his favourite.

[SameerP]

Who cares if Dravid considers Lara better than Sachin? It's his personal opinion and like all opinions it's a valid one, I would pay more to watch Lara's batting but imo Sachin is overall a better batsman.

[Justcrazy]

I agree with sameer. Brian Lara was capable of winning more games, probably he was slightly better when it came to facing spinners. But one got to accept its very difficult to say that Sachin is not the best at least for this era.

[Gotham Cronie]

Um...favorite does not equal best.

[CoolSERAZ]

forget sachin and lara i am a better batsman than them...in book cricket

[freelance_cricketer]

Everyone is entitles to their opinion, Lara was indeed a heck of a good batsman whose batting every single person enjoyed when he was on song.
Tendulkar himself says Lara's the most special batsman he has seen

[CoolSERAZ]

on a more serious note, both are jewels of cricket. lets leave it at that.

lara was lefty. sachin was righty. both would complement each other well. opposition bowlers would give up trying to get them out when both of them are on song.

[Sanchez]

C'mon this doesn't mean much. Of course Lara on full song was spectacularly entertaining. He was unique. But, of course Sachin was the better batsman overall.

[what ho]

Originally Posted by Sanchez C'mon this doesn't mean much. Of course Lara on full song was spectacularly entertaining. He was unique. But, of course Sachin was the better batsman overall.

Why "of course", Sanchez? He is better, in my book, but not by that much. Lara was the second best player of spin I have ever seen but Tendulkar was the more complete or perfect batsman. When we - well our media - go on about our new wunderkind, I think of these two (and some of the other greats that I have had the massive fortune of having seen play, and even having talked to), and I cannot help cringing.

One player, not great by any means, but was lovely to watch was Roy Dias from your lovely isles of Serendip. Most of your compatriots do not think he merits a mention; perhaps it is an age related thing.

[Saqs]

Originally Posted by Sanchez C'mon this doesn't mean much. Of course Lara on full song was spectacularly entertaining. He was unique. But, of course Sachin was the better batsman overall.

If the jury was out on this, the debate on the two wouldn't be so polarised still.

(Ignore my comment if you meant it sarcastically)

[what ho]

was out or wan't out?

[Sanchez]

Originally Posted by what ho Why "of course", Sanchez? He is better, in my book, but not by that much. Lara was the second best player of spin I have ever seen but Tendulkar was the more complete or perfect batsman. When we - well our media - go on about our new wunderkind, I think of these two (and some of the other greats that I have had the great fortune of having seen play, and even having talked to), and I cannot help cringing. One player, not great by any means, but was lovely to watch was Roy Dias from your lovely isles of Serendip. Most of your compatriots don not think he merits a mention; perhaps it is an age related thing.

lol twas a sarcastic comment. I really don't like comparing players. Lara is just intriguing and entertaining viewing from a spectators point of view. He had his flaws but that's what made him even more appealing to me.

Aravinda and Arjuna were the understudies of Roy Dias and his influence on both of them was immense. Very abrasive and instinctive stye of play which characterized our struggle to foray in to the elites of test cricket which we still haven't been able to beak in to.

[gsivak]

Don't see why Dravid shouldn't like Lara as a batsman more than Sachin. After all Lara was class and elegance. However, I doubt if Dravid will ever confide anything to Sangakarra ever again

[cricketfanfirst]

Lara was great to watch, since he had more flair and also left handers usually appeal more than right handers. His style was more entertaining and unorthodox. Whereas, Sachin's batting is of more classical mould and orthodox. It boils down to personal favourites, such as which style you would like to see.

We all have our favourites, so no surprise Dravid too has his favourites. Example: Many great players such as Donald Bradman, Richie Benaud, Viv Richards, Martin Crowe, Richard Hadlee, Allan Donald, Shane Warne, Ricky Ponting etc., had their views on Sachin as the best but it does not mean that their views diminish the greatness of other players. Similarly, the other greats such as Murali, Sanga, Ian Chappell and now Dravid consider Lara to be the best/their favourite.

When you are comparing such great players, it is very little to choose between them.

[cornered-tigers]

Most fast bowlers that I listened
to cherished Lara's scalp,

[driver26]

Originally Posted by cornered-tigers Most fast bowlers that I listened to cherished Lara's scalp,

http://www.espncricinfo.com/sachinat...ry/434423.html

Allan Donald : " There's Steve Waugh and Brian Lara. And then, a notch above, there's Sachin Tendulkar "

[what ho]

I actually do remember Donald remarking in 2007, when India toured us, that Tendulkar was the best batsman he had bowled to. In fact, if memory serves, he called him a "beast"! Not sure which of the broadsheets it was....perhaps The Times.

[Cover Drive]

Dravid is not the only one, Shoaib Akhtar says the same.

[murphyslaw79]

Lara played the situation better and could single handedly change the course of the game.

Sachin is just sachin, consistent, but has known to fall at the final hurdle. Saying that you can't take away the fact how he has adjusted his game over the years to remain amongst the best batsman in the world.

Both are a pleasure to watch

[cornered-tigers]

Originally Posted by driver26 http://www.espncricinfo.com/sachinat...ry/434423.html Allan Donald : " There's Steve Waugh and Brian Lara. And then, a notch above, there's Sachin Tendulkar "

Akhtar said, Lara was special, he even
put Dravid's scalp above tendulkar,


Muthiah Muralitharan:

*"I have played a lot of cricket against Tendulkar compared to what I have played against Lara. While both are difficult to bowl to, I think Lara plays me better than Tendulkar. That Lara is a left-hander is an advantage to him, but the great thing about him is he launches into the attack straightaway. He uses his feet well against me while Tendulkar relies more on the sweep, I feel. I find Lara tougher."

Wasim Akram:

*"I have bowled to both Tendulkar and Lara and I have found Lara more attacking. Tendulkar has a tighter technique, no doubt, but Lara can single-handedly win the game for his team. I am not saying Tendulkar cannot do it but Lara has maybe done it more often than him. If you are asking me who the best batsman I have bowled to is, then it's not Tendulkar and not Lara as well. It's Martin Crowe... he was an amazing batsman. Regarding Tendulkar and Lara, I would love to have both in my team! Who wouldn't?"

[what ho]

God, I detest Mark Nicholas. Also want to extend my compliments to the thread starter for his conflating of favourite with best!

[driver26]

Originally Posted by cornered-tigers Akhtar said, Lara was special, he even put Dravid's scalp above tendulkar, Muthiah Muralitharan: *"I have played a lot of cricket against Tendulkar compared to what I have played against Lara. While both are difficult to bowl to, I think Lara plays me better than Tendulkar. That Lara is a left-hander is an advantage to him, but the great thing about him is he launches into the attack straightaway. He uses his feet well against me while Tendulkar relies more on the sweep, I feel. I find Lara tougher." Wasim Akram: *"I have bowled to both Tendulkar and Lara and I have found Lara more attacking. Tendulkar has a tighter technique, no doubt, but Lara can single-handedly win the game for his team. I am not saying Tendulkar cannot do it but Lara has maybe done it more often than him. If you are asking me who the best batsman I have bowled to is, then it's not Tendulkar and not Lara as well. It's Martin Crowe... he was an amazing batsman. Regarding Tendulkar and Lara, I would love to have both in my team! Who wouldn't?"

Opinion of a nobody like Akhtar doesnt count .

Yes Murali was a champion who rated Lara above Tendulkar but then there was Warne who rated Tendulkar above Lara.

[murphyslaw79]

i don't understand where Murali is coming from. Normally off spinners prefer bowling to left handed batsmen, as the ball is turning away, so i can't see how that was an advantage to Lara.

It shows the class of Lara, who is not scared to dance down the wicket, when the chance of being stumped is increased.

Tendulkar on the other hand will think and think about the game, and then practice it till the crows come home and then implement it in the game.

[Ambi]

** Sachin vs Lara
For years these two legends have broken many records and no doubt they are going to breakmany in the coming years. The Question that arises in every one's mind is" Lara or Tendulkar".
Is Brian Lara a better batsman than India's Sachin Tendulkar?
Here is a collection of some views.
Wisden
Wisden writes in a piece headlined "Tendulkar the Great (and getting greater)".
It went on to cite that Tendulkar's had been the 28 most prolific years and 27 of the most prodigious months in the history of batting.
Player Views
Steve Waugh:
"You take Don Bradman away and he (Sachin) is next up, I reckon."
Brian Lara:
"Sachin is a genius. I'm a mere mortal. I would like to be a lot more consistent. I would like to be a (Sachin) Tendulkar, or someone like that, someone who could go out in the middle and keep scoring; if he doesn't get a hundred, he gets at least 30 or 40, and scores like that. You know, it would be great to be that sort of individual.
But, looking at it, I am also happy to be the player that I am.The big scores that I get, scoring500 runs in one innings, or 375 runs in another innings, is something special too. I have got to be able to take the good with the bad. I am quite happy with the way things are for me batting-wise. But, as a top-flight player, you want to be considered not only as someone who could spoon out great performances, but someone whohas been consistent over the years. I have not been able to measure up to that yet, but hopefully, in the latter part of mycareer, I will be able to do that."
Marlon Samuels:
*"Sachin is the best batsman in the world. The way he lifts the team and the way he bats. Watching him play helps me in my batting."
Andy Flower: "There's Sachin on one hand, and then there are the rest of us."
Wasim Akram:
"I have bowled to both Tendulkar and Lara and I have found Lara more attacking. Tendulkar has a tighter technique, no doubt, but Lara can single-handedly win the game for his team. I am not saying Tendulkar cannot do it but Lara has maybe done it moreoften than him. If you are askingme who the best batsman I havebowled to is, then it's not Tendulkar and not Lara as well. It's Martin Crowe... he was an amazing batsman. Regarding Tendulkar and Lara, I would love to have both in my team! Who wouldn't?"
Glenn McGrath:
"For me, it's Tendulkar. Both are class acts but I am saying this because I have had more successagainst Lara than I have against Tendulkar. I think I have a fair idea of what Lara likes and doesn't like and I feel I can makehis life at the crease very uncomfortable. He is vulnerable outside the off-stump early on and is not as tight as Tendulkar in defense. I would go for Tendulkar as the best in the world."
Waqar Younis:
"Unfortunately, I have not bowled enough to Tendulkar in Test matches but there is no doubt about his class. I have bowled against Lara and I have had some success against him. I think over the years I would say I have been fifty-fifty against both Tendulkar and Lara. I have got them a few times and they have got runs against me as well. I can never forget a 16-year-old Tendulkar batting onafter being struck on the nose bya fast bouncer from me. I think Tendulkar is mentally tougher than Lara."
Muthiah Muralitharan:
*"I have played a lot of cricket against Tendulkar compared to what I have played against Lara. While both are difficult to bowl to, I think Lara plays me better than Tendulkar. That Lara is a left-hander is an advantage to him, but the great thing about him is he launches into the attack straightaway. He uses his feet well against me while Tendulkar relies more on the sweep, I feel. I find Lara tougher."
Jason Gillespie:
"In my opinion it's Tendulkar who is ahead of the two. Mentally stronger than Lara, he has a better technique as well. Tendulkar doesn't get worked uplike Lara when the opposition has a few words to say to him. Lara on his day can be destructive, but you have to lookat consistency and I think Tendulkar is definitely more consistent than Lara."
Saqlain Mushtaq:
"Both have their good qualities but I feel Tendulkar doesn't give as many chances as Lara does. Lara, once he settles down, can be a better player to watch because of the left-hander's grace and also because he plays more shots. He has played more match-winning innings compared to Tendulkar because he finished off the job once he is in. But Sachin is more compact and puts a heavy price on his wicket. It is more difficult to dislodge Tendulkar compared to Lara."
Barry Richards:
"Lara is a better batsman than Sachin simply because he tends to score big whenever he plays against teams like Australia and South Africa and the stats actually support it. Lara has scored three 200's against the Aussies 2 of which have come in Australia and apart from that he has a test record of 375 as well whereas Sachin has a couple of 200's against New Zealand and Zimbabwe and that too in India."(Old comment)
Sir Vivian Richards :
"Players like Sachin deserve to be preserved in cotton wool. I first saw him when he was touring England. I saw two of his innings. When you start hitting respectable fast bowlers for sixes over their heads then you are serving notice."
Geoffrey Boycott
(For Sachin)
:"Form is Temporary but the Class is Permanent"
Sir Donald Bradman
"Sachin Style of Playing resembles my style. That Touch I use to feel when I batted".
Great Sunil Gavaskar
"Sachin Tendulkar is better than Sir Donald Bradman"
Andrew Flintoff
"Sachin Tendulkar is a better batsman than brian Lara"
Ricky Ponting
" If I would like to have three men in my team from the oppostion squad they would be Andrew Flintoff, Murali and SACHIN TENDULKAR "

[Sanchez]

Originally Posted by what ho God, I detest Mark Nicholas. Also want to extend my compliments to the thread starter for his conflating of favourite with best!

LOL you're not the only one, even then I have to ask what you poms did, for him to be such an Aussie wannabe. God I hate his fake kangaroo accent.

[Romali_rotti]

[QUOTE=cornered-tigers;3974858]Akhtar said, Lara was special, he even
put Dravid's scalp above tendulkar,


QUOTE]



Who cares about Shoib, he changes his opinions like I change my underwear, he rated SRT the best bat after the 2003 WC match vs India. Then later before he retired he said Inzi & Lara was the greatest batsmen of all time, I wouldnt take him too seriously..

[what ho]

Originally Posted by Sanchez LOL you're not the only one, even then I have to ask what you poms did, for him to be such an Aussie wannabe. God I hate his fake kangaroo accent.

Perhaps told him in no uncertain terms that he was a complete plonker! His plummy tones and his fawning hyperbole really grate....I will stop now before I get truly agitated!

[what ho]

Speaking of accents, it seems that Sangakkara has changed his. A slight infusion of ocker in his speaking. Most unbecoming! Or perhaps I am hearing things....wouldn't be the first time.

[umerz]

Originally Posted by gothamcronie118 Um...favorite does not equal best.

Exactly some people's fav bowler is Sami

[Ashraful_Rox]

Brian Lara was the classiest batsman ever, what can I say, his shots were pure class. Sachin is the best of his era, but Lara's shots were pure class, Legend. Dravid is also pure class.

[PakPeace]

Umar akmal will be better than both of them

[mani1]

I prefer lara too I also remember Geoff boycott saying Sobers is the best batsman he ever saw and slightly behind his is Lara equal with Viv.

[Mobashir]

Rahul Dravid was already my favorite current indian cricket but now I can see that we also have common points.
We both love Brian Lara's batting.
Really, it' s nothing against Sachin who is a fantastic batsman, but I can't think that there is someone better than Brian Charles Lara.

[style_guru]

Originally Posted by PakPeace Umar akmal will be better than both of them

Yes. And my Grandmother will come out of her grave and bowl at 100 MPH

[what ho]

Originally Posted by style_guru Yes. And my Grandmother will come out of her grave and bowl at 100 MPH

Boycott's nan does so already, I am led to believe.

[Blitz]

Ah, the age old question, Lara or Tendulker.


I didn't know we were back in 2007.


This argument ended years ago. The same way the whole Ponting vs Tendulker.

Tendulker has surpassed both of them by miles.


Lets get on with the times. its Sachin v Kallis now

[W63L35]

Dravid: Brian Lara is the best, not Tendulkar

Take that Sachin-fans!



So, any Sachin-fans come out and start bashing Dravid for this statement........ like they do to people like us?

Oh...wait.... now does Dravid hates Sachin, like I do?

[Vegitto1]

Sachin is a Toyota Yaris, Reliable, long-lasting and gets the job done and Lara is a Bugatti, Fun, entertaining and class yet not going to out last a Yaris in terms of reliability and mileage.

[SOSami]

I've always thought Dravid's a hater. People call him a gentleman, but he has a vindictive jealous streak. People also call him intelligent, but I've never heard him say anything particularly groundbreaking. His batting is solid but he was never good enough to play the entertaining innings of his contemporaries within the India team.

He ousted Ganguly, he declared when Sachin was on 194* in Pakistan and now has a sly little word about how Lara is better.

Terribly irritating player who isn't fit to lace Tendulkar's boots.

[On topic after my anti-Dravid tirade: He's right.]

[W63L35]

^^



SOSami.... I have become a bigger fan of yours now... than I am of Sachin!

[jeetu]

I don't mind that statement since its Lara. I'll still reckon Tendulkar as best batman i have seen in last 30 years.

[Desi]

why does this debate even matter. both are matchwinners who have exceeded the expectations of fans for countless years. stop diminishing their auras with these stupid debates. dravid said a couple sentences worth and left at that, everyone has their favorite players. don't make this into another hate thread please.



although i thought akram's comments were very interesting. martin crowe is so underrated and constantly gets forgotten great batsman are being discussed.

[SOSami]

Dravid annoys me

[freelance_cricketer]

Vegitto- Sachin is a Toyota Yaris, Reliable, long-lasting and gets the job done and Lara is a Bugatti, Fun, entertaining and class yet not going to out last a Yaris in terms of reliability and mileage.

^What is Afridi mere dost?

[Indiafan]

Originally Posted by W63L35 Take that Sachin-fans! So, any Sachin-fans come out and start bashing Dravid for this statement........ like they do to people like us? Oh...wait.... now does Dravid hates Sachin, like I do?

Except Dravid never said what you quoted

Originally Posted by SOSami I've always thought Dravid's a hater. People call him a gentleman, but he has a vindictive jealous streak. People also call him intelligent, but I've never heard him say anything particularly groundbreaking. His batting is solid but he was never good enough to play the entertaining innings of his contemporaries within the India team. He ousted Ganguly, he declared when Sachin was on 194* in Pakistan and now has a sly little word about how Lara is better. Terribly irritating player who isn't fit to lace Tendulkar's boots. [On topic after my anti-Dravid tirade: He's right.]

True bro, true (except your on topic part)

[W63L35]

Originally Posted by Indiafan Except Dravid never said what you quoted

I did not quote anything..... I just copied and pasted the title of the thread... and if you don't agree with the title of the thread, you are most welcome to cry to the mods!

[W63L35]

Originally Posted by SOSami I've always thought Dravid's a hater. People call him a gentleman, but he has a vindictive jealous streak. People also call him intelligent, but I've never heard him say anything particularly groundbreaking. His batting is solid but he was never good enough to play the entertaining innings of his contemporaries within the India team. He ousted Ganguly, he declared when Sachin was on 194* in Pakistan and now has a sly little word about how Lara is better. Terribly irritating player who isn't fit to lace Tendulkar's boots. [On topic after my anti-Dravid tirade: He's right.]

Not to mention, Dravid called Sachin a liar and a cheater ... when Sachin claimed his catch in IPL... and Dravid did not believe him...and called for a review!

[Blitz]

Originally Posted by W63L35 Not to mention, Dravid called Sachin a liar and a cheater ... when Sachin claimed his catch in IPL... and Dravid did not believe him...and called for a review!

This thread needs a name change.


*Dravid Hates Tendulker*

[freelance_cricketer]

Guys do you think it's ok for Sangakkara to reveal that bit of info ? Should he have mentioned Rahul Dravid's name ?

[SOSami]

Originally Posted by Indiafan True bro, true (except your on topic part)

Lara vs. Tendulkar is a tough one really.

Lara had a massive weakness against express pace bowling, which is the standard against which all batsmen are judged in my opinion.

Tendulkar had no such weakness.

But Lara had more bottle, which Tendulkar lacks.

Technique vs. mental toughness.

[SOSami]

Originally Posted by W63L35 Not to mention, Dravid called Sachin a liar and a cheater ... when Sachin claimed his catch in IPL... and Dravid did not believe him...and called for a review!

Didn't know that. Did Dravid really do that? Out of order.

[cornered-tigers]

Originally Posted by SOSami Lara vs. Tendulkar is a tough one really. Lara had a massive weakness against express pace bowling, which is the standard against which all batsmen are judged in my opinion. Tendulkar had no such weakness. But Lara had more bottle, which Tendulkar lacks. Technique vs. mental toughness.

Massive weakness, he brutalized Pakistani pace attack of two Ws time and again, On the other hand, 1999 Calcutta test rings a bell for tendu, tendu is pretty vulnerable against offices, while Lara has no such weakness,

[cricketfanfirst]

Originally Posted by freelance_cricketer Guys do you think it's ok for Sangakkara to reveal that bit of info ? Should he have mentioned Rahul Dravid's name ?

I think it's fine, it is not like Sanga disclosed some private info of Dravid to the public, he just disclosed a cricketing matter.

Dravid too has his favourites, what is wrong in him saying that Lara is better/favourite compared to Sachin.

[Indiafan]

Originally Posted by SOSami Lara vs. Tendulkar is a tough one really. Lara had a massive weakness against express pace bowling, which is the standard against which all batsmen are judged in my opinion. Tendulkar had no such weakness. But Lara had more bottle, which Tendulkar lacks. Technique vs. mental toughness.

Yeah, I was not being serious, futile to compare these two

[Indiafan]

Originally Posted by cornered-tigers Massive weakness, he brutalized Pakistani pace attack of two Ws time and again, On the other hand, 1999 Calcutta test rings a bell for tendu, tendu is pretty vulnerable against offices, while Lara has no such weakness,

I have always wondered, is it easier for a batsman to play bowls turning away from him than ones turning in? Lara pretty much pwned Murali but was vulnerable to Warne. For Sachin, it was the other way around

[cornered-tigers]

Originally Posted by Ashraful_Rox Brian Lara was the classiest batsman ever, what can I say, his shots were pure class. Sachin is the best of his era, but Lara's shots were pure class, Legend. Dravid is also pure class.

Lefties look elegant, remember Anwar was classy too, more stylish than tendulkar, when on song ,

[Indiafan]

Originally Posted by cornered-tigers Lefties look elegant, remember Anwar was classy too, more stylish than tendulkar, when on song ,

So is this an optical illusion which makes a leftie playing the same shot more classy than a right handed batsman? I have seen videos where right handed batsmen's shot were reversed to form mirror images and each shot looked very different and more classy

[cornered-tigers]

Originally Posted by driver26 Opinion of a nobody like Akhtar doesnt count . Yes Murali was a champion who rated Lara above Tendulkar but then there was Warne who rated Tendulkar above Lara.

Akhtar showed the world that tendulkar is just another batsman who plays well, but gives chances, but, Dravid is more solid in defense hence taking dravid's wkt gives more satisfaction. At least nine times he has taken teenda to cleaners, teenda may have done it to him only once,
As I said in another post, Saqi had great success against tend, with Ajmal giving him trouble now, and Muralist said that too, it means tend struggles against off-spin, vs leg spin.

[driver26]

Originally Posted by SOSami I've always thought Dravid's a hater. People call him a gentleman, but he has a vindictive jealous streak. People also call him intelligent, but I've never heard him say anything particularly groundbreaking. His batting is solid but he was never good enough to play the entertaining innings of his contemporaries within the India team. He ousted Ganguly, he declared when Sachin was on 194* in Pakistan and now has a sly little word about how Lara is better. Terribly irritating player who isn't fit to lace Tendulkar's boots. [On topic after my anti-Dravid tirade: He's right.]

Very Very well written description of the jealous Betrayer aka Wall of India who has been playing all his life with a strike rate of 30 and is only good at not being dismissed easily . During his peak years he has always been messing up with Sachin , he hooked up with Guru Greg and got India's Greatest Captain Ganguly out of the team eventually Greg was ousted and Dravid too was thrown out of the Odi Team , strokeless wonder wasnt good enough to have place in the team with his massive strike rate of 70. Tendulkar was too powerful to be brought down by Guru Greg and his bootlicker Dravid so he survived and emerged as strong as ever however Ganguly had to end his career on a sad note .

Just forget all the neutral Cricket fans just pay attention to what other team members have to say about Sachin and Dravid . From Yuvraj to Kohli , Gambhir to Raina to Sehwag and Dhoni to Harbhajan everyone again and again mention how Tendulkar is there biggest inspiration and his mere presence in the team has helped them with there game during the lows and all of them publicly expressed that they want to win the "2011 World Cup " for Sachin and eventually after winning it dedicated it to the "Little Master" .

Tendulkar is on top of the world going strong in Tests and played the most important role in our world cup win while the sad lonely Odi Reject Indian wall is left alone to deal with " Z ' grade teams in Test matches which Greats like Tendulkar dont even like to participate in .

[cornered-tigers]

[QUOTE=Romali_rotti;3974913]

Originally Posted by cornered-tigers Akhtar said, Lara was special, he even put Dravid's scalp above tendulkar, QUOTE] Who cares about Shoib, he changes his opinions like I change my underwear, he rated SRT the best bat after the 2003 WC match vs India. Then later before he retired he said Inzi & Lara was the greatest batsmen of all time, I wouldnt take him too seriously..

Shoaib is an express bowler, Inzi was way ahead of tend when it came to play bowling of 95 mph, something that Great Imran Khan noticed, he reckoned that before Inzi it was Viv who cud do that, the reasoning behind this was the ample time both had to go on the front foot, yet seeing the length of the ball come back on backfoot, something others didn't have. If u look both Inzi and Viv, they used to play express bowlers with relative ease, Inzi wud struggle against slow bowlers, which Viv used to dominate, that's why I still think Viv was the king of them all!

[W63L35]

Originally Posted by SOSami Didn't know that. Did Dravid really do that? Out of order.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ipl2010/...ch/419162.html