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Old 20th March 2012, 09:42
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If Bangladesh win today, they deserve to win the cup

If bangladesh manage to beat srilanka, then i hope they go on to win the cup,

simply because they deserve it,

they have been the best team in the tournament,
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Old 20th March 2012, 09:58
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bngladesh cany win simply because lankans are tough bowlers and not like india, we wanna see india in the final so badly
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:01
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Let's just say an Asia Cup win will do a lot more good to Bangladesh than it will to any other participant. They might even start taking their cricket more seriously then.
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:02
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Yes they deserve it. But unlike you I don't want Pakistan to lose to a minnow. So no they shouldn't win in the final if the win today.
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:07
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Yes they deserve it. But unlike you I don't want Pakistan to lose to a minnow. So no they shouldn't win in the final if the win today.
i get what your saying but i would have them win as they are playing better cricket,

neither pak or india have played great,

and as some one has said bangla win in the asia cup would do alot for them and their confidence and would be considered as actual progress after so long,
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:07
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Heck no i would support Pakistan if they are not playing India on Thursday... But it would be funny if b'desh somehow win
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:08
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To be honest, even in our game, Bangladesh looked the better team.

But no, this is just cuz they are playing in Bangladesh.

They can't repeat half of these performances abroad.
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:10
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I agree, go Bangladesh
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:14
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To be honest, even in our game, Bangladesh looked the better team.

But no, this is just cuz they are playing in Bangladesh.

They can't repeat half of these performances abroad.
they gotta start somewhere an where better then at home,,
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:18
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The real question is -


Does Pakistan deserve to be in the final?
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:22
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The real question is -


Does Pakistan deserve to be in the final?
well in honesty out of the 4 teams this is how they all have preformed in the tournament . best 2 last


1 bangladesh
2 pakistan
3 india
4 srilanka
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:22
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The real question is -


Does Pakistan deserve to be in the final?
So you think Pakistan doesn't deserve to be in the final?
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:23
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The real question is -


Does Pakistan deserve to be in the final?
Well we defeated Sri Lanka AND Bangladesh, and put up a good fight against India, so we deserve to win as well.
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:24
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The real question is -


Does Pakistan deserve to be in the final?
Yes, we do.

Had we lost to Bangladesh ,then you could talk.

Losing to India does not mean we don't deserve to be in the final.


The real question is , does India deserve to be in the final AFTER LOSING TO BANGLADESH ?
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:26
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best team should win and thats been bangladesh,

and for them asia cup would mean 100% more then for anyone else.

for cricket it would be better bangla win then india/pak,

in general it was a cup that no one outside of asia gave 2 craps about.
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:26
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The real question is -


Does Pakistan deserve to be in the final?
Indeed Pakistan is not qualified to the final because some one beat someone we won 2 straight games and a bonus point and put up a fight against India not letting them fetch the bonus Point so no question really.
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:29
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I don't think so guys, if BD wins tonight they obviously go into the final as the best team of the tourney. The second finalist got an epic beating ( plz man up and accept it) from India so you know

Many won't like this comment but its an honest rant.
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:32
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I want to play India in the final...I want to crush them in a cup final to restore the pride
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:32
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I don't think so guys, if BD wins tonight they obviously go into the final as the best team of the tourney. The second finalist got an epic beating ( plz man up and accept it) from India so you know

Many won't like this comment but its an honest rant.
You lost to Bangladesh, didn't get any wins with a bonus point, so shush it.

One does not simply walk into a final of a tournament by beating their arch rival (No matter how good the victory was).

The FIRST finalist did lose to India, however they defeated the hosts and thrashed one other team.
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:33
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I don't think so guys, if BD wins tonight they obviously go into the final as the best team of the tourney. The second finalist got an epic beating ( plz man up and accept it) from India so you know

Many won't like this comment but its an honest rant.
No we beat Sri Lanka with a bonus point. We beat Bangladesh.

If we were not the best team, how are we in the finals , while Bangla India are fighting out for the 2nd spot ?

No matter if Bangla wins, I still think India and Bangladesh were even for the 2nd spot.

But Pakistan won with bonus point. So we deserve our place : )
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:33
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I don't think so guys, if BD wins tonight they obviously go into the final as the best team of the tourney. The second finalist got an epic beating ( plz man up and accept it) from India so you know

Many won't like this comment but its an honest rant.
It was a comfortable win however an epic beating it was not.
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:35
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I dont care if India lose out on the finals. BD have played extermely well this tournament and deserve to win it for the kind of support and fan base they receive back home.

They have backed it up with performance in this tournament as well. I will support them to win this tourney.
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:55
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If Bangladesh makes it to the final, my support being a Pakistani will be for Bangladesh to win the cup. They deserve to win.
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Agreed. Based on their performances in 2.5 matches until now, if they win today, they totally deserve to go to the final.


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Old 20th March 2012, 11:00
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I think we can win this match Inshallah.

233 runs to chase, but ofcourse SL has better bowling line up only coz of malinga but BD batsman will play him with caution. The others however are weakling and they dont have a good spinner at all.

If we go to the finals, there will be 50/50 chance for both teams, will really be a good match because it will tell whether BD really are better than Pakistan or whether Pakistan deserves to be the called the best team in Asia
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Old 20th March 2012, 11:06
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If bangladesh manage to beat srilanka, then i hope they go on to win the cup,

simply because they deserve it,

they have been the best team in the tournament,
If they can win today, that will be a great achievement. We Bangladesh fans will be happy if they don't get the cup in the final. And, if they do that, people will be on the road. Betcha!
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Old 20th March 2012, 11:07
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I think we can win this match Inshallah.

233 runs to chase, but ofcourse SL has better bowling line up only coz of malinga but BD batsman will play him with caution. The others however are weakling and they dont have a good spinner at all.

If we go to the finals, there will be 50/50 chance for both teams, will really be a good match because it will tell whether BD really are better than Pakistan or whether Pakistan deserves to be the called the best team in Asia
Lol one tournament, in which Bangladesh MIGHT reach the final, that too on their home ground,

And you think they are credentials for best team in Asia ?

Even if Bangladesh win the Asia Cup , it's very well done. Hats off to them.

But it does not mean they are the best team in Asia. Just means they are best team in their home ground in this edition of the Cup.

You gotta win thousands of games home and abroad to be said as best team of Asia.
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Old 20th March 2012, 11:09
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You guys are really undermining Pakistan and that's a damn shame. We defeated Bangladesh, we destroyed Sri Lanka with a bonus point and we put up a good fight against India; we've been doing pretty good guys.
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Old 20th March 2012, 11:10
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But it does not mean they are the best team in Asia. Just means they are best team in their home ground in this edition of the Cup.

Interesting concept ,

Certainly wouldn't mind if the Asian cup fixtures in the future includes more teams..and playing locations is spread across Lanka,India and Bangladesh (+ other viable countries with the required infrastructure) instead of just one country
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Old 20th March 2012, 11:15
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Old 20th March 2012, 11:15
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You guys are really undermining Pakistan and that's a damn shame. We defeated Bangladesh, we destroyed Sri Lanka with a bonus point and we put up a good fight against India; we've been doing pretty good guys.
I do agree what you just mentioned about Pakistan, but they didn't put up a good fight against India. They were poor in both fielding & bowling departments. They didn't bat well in the last 10 overs.
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Old 20th March 2012, 11:17
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bngladesh cany win simply because lankans are tough bowlers and not like india, we wanna see india in the final so badly

Are not pak bowlers regarded the best in subcon? and look how close that game was!

But I do not think BD will be able to play malinga though!! but malinga will not be bowling 50 overs.....thank god =D

I would not want to call this game just yet!

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Old 20th March 2012, 11:30
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I think we can win this match Inshallah.

233 runs to chase, but ofcourse SL has better bowling line up only coz of malinga but BD batsman will play him with caution. The others however are weakling and they dont have a good spinner at all.

If we go to the finals, there will be 50/50 chance for both teams, will really be a good match because it will tell whether BD really are better than Pakistan or whether Pakistan deserves to be the called the best team in Asia

Lets be realistic! If BD somehow get in to final and win!! No way does that mean BD are better then PAK. BD have to perform more internationally.

It will show only that BD were the better team this tournament. Its vital we do not get ahead of ourselves. Higher you rise harder you fall, and often fans are guilty of doing this and then being mad when they find out their players are only human.
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if BD can't beat us in the final, they don't deserve it.

I'd rather face India in the final anyway.
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Old 20th March 2012, 11:40
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I'd like to revise the equation. The OP said, "If Bangladesh win today, they deserve to win the cup"

I am going to change that to: "If Bangladesh win today and THEN beat Pakistan in the finals, they deserve to win the cup"

Much more fair, no?
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Old 20th March 2012, 11:43
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Yup.. if they beat Pak..they would have beaten all the 3 big teams in the tournament atleast once.. thus deserving the cup.
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Old 20th March 2012, 11:45
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Old 20th March 2012, 11:46
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I don't think so guys, if BD wins tonight they obviously go into the final as the best team of the tourney. The second finalist got an epic beating ( plz man up and accept it) from India so you know

Many won't like this comment but its an honest rant.
Epic beating? So what will you call that which the Indian trundlers got from Pakistan? That was really a grave yard of bowlers and bowlers of both sides got equal beating.
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I feel bit bad for PAK supporters because if you do not play INDIA in this final. You will have to deal with the India Win for a long time. They will not let you forget the fact PAK bowlers could not defend a huge score!

A rematch would be good for you guys!
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I'd like to revise the equation. The OP said, "If Bangladesh win today, they deserve to win the cup"

I am going to change that to: "If Bangladesh win today and THEN beat Pakistan in the finals, they deserve to win the cup"

Much more fair, no?
lol

If they win the match then they win the cup, to hell with whether they deserve or not

Bangladesh have prob. played the best cricket in the tournament
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Epic beating? So what will you call that which the Indian trundlers got from Pakistan? That was really a grave yard of bowlers and bowlers of both sides got equal beating.
But but but Jamal your bowling's milesssss ahead of oursss aint it


We got trundlers we accept, what ya got?

Meat eating prima donnas

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But but but Jamal your bowling's milesssss ahead of oursss aint it


We got trundlers we accept, what ya got?

Meat eating phuddus?
It was just an off day for Pakistani bowlers.
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Old 20th March 2012, 11:51
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Yup.. if they beat Pak..they would have beaten all the 3 big teams in the tournament atleast once.. thus deserving the cup.
That's not called deserving the cup...THAT'S CALLED WINNING THE CUP!!...fair and square!

Deserving sound like they are just being given the cup rather than winning it!
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Old 20th March 2012, 11:54
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It was just an off day for Pakistani bowlers.
Yeah rite.....

Mate other than Ajmal, your bowling line up is way hyped up and currently buncha *******

Buncha meat eating trundlers they are
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Old 20th March 2012, 11:54
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why does each topic or discussion become a india/pak competition,
india have the batsmen we have the bowlers and both team have failed time to time,
get over it both sides,

this topic was purely for bangladesh. and what it could do for their cricket and they have so far in this tournament played better then any one expected,
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But but but Jamal your bowling's milesssss ahead of oursss aint it


We got trundlers we accept, what ya got?

Meat eating phuddus?
be careful in the choice of words my brother.
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Sorry my friend agree was not justified in using the word.... editing it now.....
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In Bangla we have saying "Gache Kathal r Gofe Tel". It would be very difficut to translate this. My fellow Bangladeshi poster should know this saying. This saying means "do not get too ahead of yourself". And here, some of my fellow posters are discussing what would happen if we won the Asia cup.

Calm down, fellows!! we are not even half way through. We may very well lose this match. It is still 50/50. Besides, the general rule in BD cricket is, we take 2 steps forward and then take 3 steps backward.

I am afraid, how many steps we will go backward even if we manage to win the Asia cup or even go to the final. God Bless...
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Old 20th March 2012, 12:03
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Yeah rite.....

Mate other than Ajmal, your bowling line up is way hyped up and currently buncha *******

Buncha meat eating trundlers they are
lol, thats why we beat the worlds number one team 3-0 and smashed up your buddies the lankans with this bakwaas bowling attack..

thats the problem with you indians, hoacha pun and pride are what bring you down..try beating bangladesh first before coming and gloating. yeah kohli hit a purple patch thats nice.. but we have more bowling talent in a gulli in pindi than you have in your whole country..

as for the original topic, err if Pak win the final they deserve the win. using that logic india didnt deserve to win the world cup either. silly logic!
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I would be supporting bangladesh to win the final if they beat srilanka today .. being a pakistani I don't know how i'll manage that but still give that a full try because it'll mean a lot to bangladesh cricket n they deserve it more than pakistan i think ... Asia cup doesn't mean anything to me anymore after sunday's loss
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lol, thats why we beat the worlds number one team 3-0 and smashed up your buddies the lankans with this bakwaas bowling attack..

thats the problem with you indians, hoacha pun and pride are what bring you down..try beating bangladesh first before coming and gloating. yeah kohli hit a purple patch thats nice.. but we have more bowling talent in a gulli in pindi than you have in your whole country..

as for the original topic, err if Pak win the final they deserve the win. using that logic india didnt deserve to win the world cup either. silly logic!
Try looking at yourself in the mirror whilst typing that and hope you dont crack up at the irony of it

Using your logic Banglas are much better than the Pakistanis....


I see this word talent talent talent everywhere when explaining Pakistan, but talent minus result aint all the my fren...

TEST ARENA you guys got a better attack, but in ODI's meh its a toss up between 2 bunch of trundlers...

Only difference being one prides on being meat eaters yet got done by a England team 4-0.....


I know i have hit a raw nerve here with all the Pakistani frenz upset, but come on guys acceptance is the first step for moving outta denial that your ODI attack aint all the you make it to be
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Old 20th March 2012, 12:11
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In Bangla we have saying "Gache Kathal r Gofe Tel". It would be very difficut to translate this. My fellow Bangladeshi poster should know this saying. This saying means "do not get too ahead of yourself". And here, some of my fellow posters are discussing what would happen if we won the Asia cup.

Calm down, fellows!! we are not even half way through. We may very well lose this match. It is still 50/50. Besides, the general rule in BD cricket is, we take 2 steps forward and then take 3 steps backward.

I am afraid, how many steps we will go backward even if we manage to win the Asia cup or even go to the final. God Bless...
try not to be pessimist by BD brother

I dont think we ever really went backwords. The ways our boyz are playing are great to say the least and their body language today shows that they are hungry for success even after their win against India
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Old 20th March 2012, 12:13
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Whoever wins the final deserves to win the cup. End of story
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Old 20th March 2012, 12:25
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Its cricket not some IMF loan or relief. They have to beat the best in order to deserve it. After 13 years of pathetic cricket, they are bound to win some matches against quality sides.
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Old 20th March 2012, 12:31
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Its cricket not some IMF loan or relief. They have to beat the best in order to deserve it. After 13 years of pathetic cricket, they are bound to win some matches against quality sides.
very well said....
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Old 20th March 2012, 12:34
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To be honest, even in our game, Bangladesh looked the better team.

But no, this is just cuz they are playing in Bangladesh.

They can't repeat half of these performances abroad.
who can?
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Old 20th March 2012, 12:38
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Modern day limited overs cricket can churn out surprise results on a regular basis. Bangladesh have played good cricket this series, but so has Pakistan and India. You've got to say that the best team on the day deserves to win the competition.
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Old 20th March 2012, 12:52
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There is nothing called deserving to win the cup...

Bangladesh played well so far just like India and Pakistan. All 3 teams won 2 games each. Of course Pak got their bonus point... I think India got the best NRR of all the 3 teams.

Now if Bangladesh lose in the finals, there should be no talk of "Deserved to win" bla bla bla...

TBH, there is no deserving team in this Asia cup... All teams have their drawbacks... Indian team lost the plot when they only managed to score 290 runs against Bangladesh... 330 was easily on the cards and they choked with the ball.

I honestly believe that there should have been 2 rounds of round robin in the initial stage. That way, the best teams make it to the finals...

In the ODI series in Aus, each team played the other team, 3 times before the finals were played...

If in a small ODI series like the one in AUS has each team playing 3 times before finals, then why not in an important cup like Asia cup?? Do even Asian teams care about Asia cup anymore??
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Old 20th March 2012, 12:57
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No, they deserve to win the cup if they win the final.
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Old 20th March 2012, 12:58
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212 in 40 overs, seems abit 2mch now for bangladesh,

duckworth lewis might end bangla's dream.

still if bangla play well they can make it.

for cutting 10 overs they should have given them a target of 202. but i dont know how d/l works,
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Old 20th March 2012, 13:15
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D/L has always seemed unfair to the second team..

They were talking about trial-ing a new formula wasn't it.. no idea where that disappeared.
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Old 20th March 2012, 13:34
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D/L has always seemed unfair to the second team..

They were talking about trial-ing a new formula wasn't it.. no idea where that disappeared.
I think they use this other method in Indian domestic cricket?
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Old 20th March 2012, 13:39
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you don't deserve nuthin ... Win the final win the cup!
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Old 20th March 2012, 13:52
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Whoever wins the final, deserves to win it.
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Old 20th March 2012, 13:52
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I have a feelign BD will win this game.... They seem to be on a mission...

As for Lanka, they have no motivation to win this game... Not saying they are playing to lose, but honestly, I think most of their players will be thinking about England series....

Even if Lanka wins, they go home... So whats the point
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Old 20th March 2012, 14:00
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So you are saying that we should let Bangladesh win?
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Old 20th March 2012, 14:02
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most certainly
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Old 20th March 2012, 14:24
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Well they deserve to be in the finals, but they dont deserve to win the cup. They were unable to beat Pakistan in the opening game, so they might have another shot, if they can beat Pakistan, then they deserve it.
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Old 20th March 2012, 15:33
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only team that deserve to win asia cup is the team who wins the final simple as that

no if's and but's
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Old 20th March 2012, 15:36
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I have never ever rooted against Pak under any circumstance in my life, but if BD gets through I am rooting for them. Winning the cup after losing so handily to India means nothing. Only way it would be justified is if we play and beat India in the final.
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Old 20th March 2012, 15:38
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I think they use this other method in Indian domestic cricket?
really ? I have no idea.. i don't follow the domestic tournaments that much.
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