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Old 15th April 2012, 02:11
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The reason why Satan cannot defeat God.

Satan will never be able to defeat God ,because satan may win 10 million times but God only has to win ONCE!.

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Old 15th April 2012, 02:14
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ok.. I think you need a mental break and have a kit kat
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Old 15th April 2012, 02:16
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could u plz enlighten us how u came up with these numbers

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Old 15th April 2012, 02:21
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Old 15th April 2012, 02:24
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I think what he's trying to say is...

Satan can win 10000 times by getting us to commit sins. However, God has to win once, which is to see even one person resist the temptation of satan.

Very random statement though, OP.
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Old 15th April 2012, 02:25
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Satan is trying to prevent God from taking control of the universe and he may succeed many many times but it doesn't MATTER because God only has to win ONCE! and once God wins and takes control Satan is doomed and will suffer for eternity.

You may have sinned or belong to a long family of sinners but bow before Allah and he may forgive you and accept you.
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Old 15th April 2012, 02:30
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Satan may be defeated on his first attempt or his 10 millionth but he will be defeated and that's for SURE!!!
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Old 15th April 2012, 02:31
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So then..why doesn't God just defeat Satan?
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Old 15th April 2012, 02:39
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Satan is trying to prevent God from taking control of the universe and he may succeed many many times but it doesn't MATTER because God only has to win ONCE! and once God wins and takes control Satan is doomed and will suffer for eternity.

You may have sinned or belong to a long family of sinners but bow before Allah and he may forgive you and accept you.
Good message
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Old 15th April 2012, 02:41
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Old 15th April 2012, 02:42
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Old 15th April 2012, 03:54
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What ? R u serious Kia nasha kia hai bhai kit-kat kyun khali ziada
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Old 15th April 2012, 04:03
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god created satan and could destroy him whenever he chooses
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Old 15th April 2012, 04:07
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Satan is trying to prevent God from taking control of the universe and he may succeed many many times but it doesn't MATTER because God only has to win ONCE! and once God wins and takes control Satan is doomed and will suffer for eternity.

You may have sinned or belong to a long family of sinners but bow before Allah and he may forgive you and accept you.
what the hell do you mean?
Allah has full control over the universe
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Old 15th April 2012, 04:12
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Old 15th April 2012, 04:37
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Old 15th April 2012, 04:39
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Quick question - God created everything, so why did he create Satan?
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Old 15th April 2012, 05:13
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Well I can say from Islam point of view that Allah ( swt ) created satan ( iblees ) as a Jinn, he had free will to obey or disobey Allah ( swt ) , he chose to disobey.
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Old 15th April 2012, 06:08
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Satan has his own comic book - Lucifer under the Vertgo label, written by Mike Carey. It's really good. You end up rooting for him.
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Old 15th April 2012, 06:13
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So Satan punishes the bad guys for eternity by burning them in oil etc etc. If he punishes the bad guys doesn't that make him good?
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Old 15th April 2012, 06:25
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Old 15th April 2012, 06:28
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Old 15th April 2012, 07:59
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Satan will never be able to defeat God ,because satan may win 10 million times but God only has to win ONCE!.
How many times he has won till now and how long will it take god to win that single win?

Hope mankind survives to see that single win.
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Old 15th April 2012, 08:13
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Quick question - God created everything, so why did he create Satan?
For balance/duality/good & evil IMO
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Old 15th April 2012, 08:15
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For balance/duality/good & evil IMO
So God doesn't want all good
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Old 15th April 2012, 08:17
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So God doesn't want all good
Well we arguably have to sense what 'corrupt' is to know what 'virtuous' is, or else we would be animals without moral fibre (Depending on your philosophy of good & evil)
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Old 15th April 2012, 08:19
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Well we arguably have to sense what 'corrupt' is to know what 'virtuous' is, or else we would be animals without moral fibre (Depending on your philosophy of good & evil)
That brings to another question

If god created those evil, currupt and bad people as a sample for others then I guess they shouldn't get punished after they die. Cuz they did their duty as God expected them to do which is to be a sample.

Isn't it?
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Old 15th April 2012, 08:24
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Good question. IMO the information is readily available to 'bad' people on how to mend their ways. If they spend a life refusing to become good, then they will be punished. Christianity always taught me that being tempted to sin is normal; even sinning is expected; but the key is to repent and ask for forgiveness. Then you can be a 'good' person. Failing to repent is the only outright crime.
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Old 15th April 2012, 08:25
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Old 15th April 2012, 08:28
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Good question. IMO the information is readily available to 'bad' people on how to mend their ways. If they spend a life refusing to become good, then they will be punished. Christianity always taught me that being tempted to sin is normal; even sinning is expected; but the key is to repent and ask for forgiveness. Then you can be a 'good' person. Failing to repent is the only outright crime.
So God creates both good and bad

Then judges them accordingly. i.e Bad should be changed and god should not be changed ?

What's the point ? He could have just created good he he wants it at the end of the day ?

But anyway, I guess its can not be that simple and straight forward.
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Old 15th April 2012, 08:29
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Old 15th April 2012, 08:31
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So God creates both good and bad

Then judges them accordingly. i.e Bad should be changed and god should not be changed ?

What's the point ? He could have just created good he he wants it at the end of the day ?

But anyway, I guess its can not be that simple and straight forward.
Free will after being born in a certain environment.

I like Nehru's compatibilist idea that you are dealt a hand (determinism), but you get to choose how to play it (free will)
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Old 15th April 2012, 08:35
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Free will after being born in a certain environment.

I like Nehru's compatibilist idea that you are dealt a hand (determinism), but you get to choose how to play it (free will)
True.


But we were discussing about creation of different types of hand when at the end of the day one expects all hands to work in a certain way.

Then if one hand remains as it is, it is considered as a failure.

Anyway, lets not get into that as the thread OP wants a different answer and I definitely don't have one for him
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Old 15th April 2012, 13:22
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Satan has to be the most badass villain to have ever existed (though I don't even know what the hell he's done).
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Old 15th April 2012, 13:46
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Well we arguably have to sense what 'corrupt' is to know what 'virtuous' is, or else we would be animals without moral fibre (Depending on your philosophy of good & evil)
IMO we are animals, but with more complex tribal rules than baboons or chimps.
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I guess he is busy punishing people for more important issues like dress code,sexual orientation and what they are eating and punishing people for treating all castes the same.
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Quick question - God created everything, so why did he create Satan?
There has to be an agent smith for every neo. lol.

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Old 15th April 2012, 15:28
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That brings to another question

If god created those evil, currupt and bad people as a sample for others then I guess they shouldn't get punished after they die. Cuz they did their duty as God expected them to do which is to be a sample.

Isn't it?
God has only written what an individual will do (in his destiny), god has not written how the individual will actually do it.

Talking about good or bad? For example you want to win a business contract. God might have written in your destiny that you will win it eventually, now whether you choose to win it the hard-working way or you take the short-cut (bribe) is where the distinction is made between good and bad.

In short, the outcome is written, but the plan of action to that outcome is not.
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God has only written what an individual will do (in his destiny), god has not written how the individual will actually do it.

Talking about good or bad? For example you want to win a business contract. God might have written in your destiny that you will win it eventually, now whether you choose to win it the hard-working way or you take the short-cut (bribe) is where the distinction is made between good and bad.

In short, the outcome is written, but the plan of action to that outcome is not.
Sorry missed you completely.

So If everyone in the class sleep whole year then will the percept of pupil passing still be same ?
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Old 16th April 2012, 04:13
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Hey OP do you know how many chances is Satan at right now? Cuz honestly I'm too tired of all the evil in this world. Counting down from 10 million. Where we at?
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Old 16th April 2012, 08:55
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Good question. IMO the information is readily available to 'bad' people on how to mend their ways. If they spend a life refusing to become good, then they will be punished. Christianity always taught me that being tempted to sin is normal; even sinning is expected; but the key is to repent and ask for forgiveness. Then you can be a 'good' person. Failing to repent is the only outright crime.
Hmm, btw, do you also believe that certain people can be 'born evil'. For example, lots of serial killers have been diagnosed with a complete inability to feel empathy for other people. Some believe they are the only real person and all other things are his playthings. Is such a person 'evil' or unfortunate?

Just like there are some people completely lacking in physical pain and accidentaly hurt themselves, there are some born without understanding of empathy and morality which is a huge handicap. Such a person cannot actually know what it is to be 'good', they might mimic it to avoid trouble for themselves
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The reason why Satan cannot defeat God is because all the books/stories are written by humans and it is all scripted to favor God.

All religious literature is written to control humans. If Satan were to win, then there is no point in writing the book
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Old 16th April 2012, 18:57
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mithun_minhas - You could not say that about the Quran

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Old 16th April 2012, 23:42
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Old 17th April 2012, 06:20
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Satan will never be able to defeat God ,because satan may win 10 million times but God only has to win ONCE!.
U must be a 5 year old retard,
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Old 17th April 2012, 06:21
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The reason why Satan cannot defeat God is because all the books/stories are written by humans and it is all scripted to favor God.

All religious literature is written to control humans. If Satan were to win, then there is no point in writing the book
U actually are commenting logically on a brain farted thread,
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