Match Ka Mujrim Thread

[Ismailtoca]

Originally Posted by dadvoc to me the real culprit today is Muhammad Hafeez he messed up the batting order completely and has effectively wasted three batsmen (Ansar, Naveed and Umar Akmal) Umar Akmal should have batted above at the top and the new comers should have came in the late middle order... but everyone is a genius in the hindsight ;(

Disagree with your culprit, but yes, Umar Akmal needs to come in at 3,4.

But who the hell is naveed? Do you mean Khalid Latif?

[FusedBulb]

We were going at a nice pace,

and YOU KNOW that you can NOT play fast. Now you are on the crease and even then you decide to take the power play ??????

That powerplay decision was the death penalty! Wicket stumbled left and right instead of a faster run rate. What a lanti decision.

The worst EVER batsman of power play and Today's match ka mujrim HAS TO BE MISBAH !!!
Should have NEVER, NEVER, NEVER taken that power play.

[Anfield]

Originally Posted by FusedBulb We were going at a nice pace, and YOU KNOW that you can NOT play fast. Now you are on the crease and even then you decide to take the power play ?????? That powerplay decision was the death penalty! Wicket stumbled left and right instead of a faster run rate. What a lanti decision. The worst EVER batsman of power play and Today's match ka mujrim HAS TO BE MISBAH !!! Should have NEVER, NEVER, NEVER taken that power play.

go learn about the cricket rules first. PowerPlay was taken by default. You have to take it at the end of 35th over genius. So much about your analysis..

[Zaz]

Apart from azhar and misbah EVERYONE!

[talha3]

Originally Posted by FusedBulb We were going at a nice pace, and YOU KNOW that you can NOT play fast. Now you are on the crease and even then you decide to take the power play ?????? That powerplay decision was the death penalty! Wicket stumbled left and right instead of a faster run rate. What a lanti decision. The worst EVER batsman of power play and Today's match ka mujrim HAS TO BE MISBAH !!! Should have NEVER, NEVER, NEVER taken that power play.

[FusedBulb]

Originally Posted by Anfield go learn about the cricket rules first. PowerPlay was taken by default. You have to take it at the end of 35th over genius. So much about your analysis..

In that case I do apologize as I started watching the game when power play was taken, and I didn't realize it was 35th over.

But PUHLEASE do check post # 452 in the Pak inning match thread. It was posted when the first ball of power play was bowled.

Originally Posted by FusedBulb Power play ... get ready for stumbling wickets instead of a faster run rate.

[sam]

Gul.

[DeadlyVenom]

5 Ducks, don't know which of them is to blame more although cant blame Tanvir too much as he can't bat and neither can Gul but when you have 6 batsman contributing 1 run between them and facing 20 balls between them you don't deserve to win.

The whole team is at fault.

[OmaIR1]

Originally Posted by sam Gul.

Just if he had taken that catch

[Zaz]

Younis, akmal afridi, sarfraz, gul, tanvir

DIABOLICAL!

[talha3]

Originally Posted by Zaz Apart from azhar and misbah EVERYONE!

This thread isn't about who had a bad game, it's about who cost us the match (i.e who had the worst game).

Gul, YK, Umar were main culprits.

[talha3]

Come to think of it, scrap that last post.

Gul! Worst bowler, dropped their main batsman at 20 and nothing with the bat either.

[Zaz]

Originally Posted by talha3 This thread isn't about who had a bad game, it's about who cost us the match (i.e who had the worst game). Gul, YK, Umar were main culprits.

Thanks for your observation but i can read!

But there was more than 2-3 players today that cost us the game

[freelance_cricketer]

How can you blame the only batsmen who scored some runs? Misbah did decent if not great. Blame Hafeez, Umar, Younis, Afridi for choking

[talha3]

Originally Posted by Zaz Thanks for your observation but i can read! But there was more than one player today that cost us the game

But it's just about 1 player! Or if you have to, 2 or 3. It's like saying there are many players that won SL the game today. But there's only one MOTM!

[Amjid Javed]

6 ducks in an inns! including 5 so called batsmen! says it all!

[DeadlyVenom]

Originally Posted by freelance_cricketer How can you blame the only batsmen who scored some runs? Misbah did decent if not great. Blame Hafeez, Umar, Younis, Afridi for choking

Freelance, you have been on this forum for a long time by now and you are still questioning the illogical thought process of most Pakistani fans??

[LegCutter]

Originally Posted by FusedBulb We were going at a nice pace, and YOU KNOW that you can NOT play fast. Now you are on the crease and even then you decide to take the power play ?????? That powerplay decision was the death penalty! Wicket stumbled left and right instead of a faster run rate. What a lanti decision. The worst EVER batsman of power play and Today's match ka mujrim HAS TO BE MISBAH !!! Should have NEVER, NEVER, NEVER taken that power play.

Brilliant analysis except for one problem. According to basic cricketing rules, you have to take your powerplay by the 35th over.

So no, actually a rubbish analysis that's worth nothing except a lame attempt at blaming the only two batsmen that performed.

[Amjid Javed]

Pathetic stuff from pakistan! most of the dimisals would be shameful to see in a school boy cricket match.

Pakistans ODI team is pathetic and until we start planning longterm towards the 2015 we will keep struggling!

[FusedBulb]

Originally Posted by LegCutter Brilliant analysis except for one problem. According to basic cricketing rules, you have to take your powerplay by the 35th over. So no, actually a rubbish analysis that's worth nothing except a lame attempt at blaming the only two batsmen that performed.

You are a little too late. Look up plz, I have already extended an apology.
As rare as it may get among desis, I have no shame in accepting my mistakes and I try to learn from my mistakes instead of useless arguments to prove myself right.
Insaan hoon farishta tou nahi.

Are we friends now?

[MMHS]

I think the Muzrim is Azhar.

For such a talented team, 244 should have been won inside 40 overs by some "Boom Boom" 6s & 4s. Rather he took too many balls & played a very selfish game (like the Indians, played for average & tried to get a 100), which put extra pressure on the middle order.

Also, I put blame on the bowlers as well; all of them know that catching is not the strength of the team, & yet instead of knocking the stumps down, they depended on the fielders to catch. Had they bowled Sanga or Mahela early in the innings, PAK would have chased around 200.

[Desi_Joker]

Originally Posted by MMHS I think the Muzrim is Azhar. For such a talented team, 244 should have been won inside 40 overs by some "Boom Boom" 6s & 4s. Rather he took too many balls & played a very selfish game (like the Indians, played for average & tried to get a 100), which put extra pressure on the middle order. Also, I put blame on the bowlers as well; all of them know that catching is not the strength of the team, & yet instead of knocking the stumps down, they depended on the fielders to catch. Had they bowled Sanga or Mahela early in the innings, PAK would have chased around 200.

Not sure if serious, or just trolling. e.e

[Ahson Afzal]

Originally Posted by MMHS I think the Muzrim is Azhar. For such a talented team, 244 should have been won inside 40 overs by some "Boom Boom" 6s & 4s. Rather he took too many balls & played a very selfish game (like the Indians, played for average & tried to get a 100), which put extra pressure on the middle order. Also, I put blame on the bowlers as well; all of them know that catching is not the strength of the team, & yet instead of knocking the stumps down, they depended on the fielders to catch. Had they bowled Sanga or Mahela early in the innings, PAK would have chased around 200.

How pathetic

[Ahson Afzal]

Hafeez
Younis
Akmal
Afridi
Sarfraz
Gul

[talha3]

Originally Posted by Desi_Joker Not sure if serious, or just trolling. e.e

Neither, it was purposeful sarcasm.

[shakil]

Younis Khan - this time around. The guy has played around 200 ODI matches (I think) but you still cannot find a suitable place for him to bat.

[MR__KHAN__JI]

Originally Posted by Ahson Afzal Hafeez Younis Akmal Afridi Sarfraz Gul

Hafeez got 2 wickets.

Akmal
Afridi
Sarfaraz
Younis Khan

to blame today.

[LegCutter]

Originally Posted by FusedBulb You are a little too late. Look up plz, I have already extended an apology. As rare as it may get among desis, I have no shame in accepting my mistakes and I try to learn from my mistakes instead of useless arguments to prove myself right. Insaan hoon farishta tou nahi. Are we friends now?

Heh, I apologize as well

[Bullet Drive]

Originally Posted by MR__KHAN__JI Hafeez got 2 wickets. Akmal Afridi Sarfaraz Younis Khan to blame today.

Hafeez is an all-rounder. He should take part of the blame for being poor with the bat.

[kamran_uk]

Originally Posted by Zaz Younis, akmal afridi, sarfraz, gul, tanvir DIABOLICAL!

Is Hafeez ur fav cricketer or smething as u have mentioned every1 but him common man he is as much to blame for as all of guys u mentioned if not more.

[talha3]

Originally Posted by Bullet Drive Hafeez is an all-rounder. He should take part of the blame for being poor with the bat.

But he was the best bowler today. His role is in bowling and batting. He did one half exceptionally.

He should take blame, but less than that of the specialist batsmen/WK who got single figure scores.

[Maximas]

Originally Posted by freelance_cricketer How can you blame the only batsmen who scored some runs? Misbah did decent if not great. Blame Hafeez, Umar, Younis, Afridi for choking

You can at least leave Afridi, he has valid reason to perform such upset way, as we all know he is allready gagged. Cant even explain reson/seek apology for such horrible batting.

[freelance_cricketer]

Match ka mujrim - Pakistani awaam, for putting up with Afridism, Tuk-Tukism and forgetting what batsmanship was all about

[Square Drive]

Originally Posted by talha3 But he was the best bowler today. His role is in bowling and batting. He did one half exceptionally. He should take blame, but less than that of the specialist batsmen/WK who got single figure scores.

Gotta agree with this.

[farazaidi]

too many mujrims today

[farazaidi]

Hafeez is also an opener and he is just as responsible to get runs as any other batsman if not more.

I'm sorry, Hafeez gets equal blame for failing with the bat, consistently

[avidlearner]

Main Guilty - Whole Middle order batsmen of Pak (barring Misbah)

(Dis)Honorable Mention - Gul - Not for his below par bowling but for the drop catch of sangakkara which sort of gave the much needed impetus that srilankan inning was lacking at that point.

[chui_kadoo]

Hafeez, Gul and Younis Khan the three biggest culprits. Hafeez's primary job is batting and he is failing in that department big time. Another big fat duck

[chui_kadoo]

Originally Posted by talha3 But he was the best bowler today. His role is in bowling and batting. He did one half exceptionally. He should take blame, but less than that of the specialist batsmen/WK who got single figure scores.

His primary job is batting. He failed again miserably

[cricketfan123]

Match ka mujrim are

[Bilal7]

Originally Posted by FusedBulb We were going at a nice pace, and YOU KNOW that you can NOT play fast. Now you are on the crease and even then you decide to take the power play ?????? That powerplay decision was the death penalty! Wicket stumbled left and right instead of a faster run rate. What a lanti decision. The worst EVER batsman of power play and Today's match ka mujrim HAS TO BE MISBAH !!! Should have NEVER, NEVER, NEVER taken that power play.

Now that your analysis has proved to be rubbish, is Misbah still the match ka mujrim?

[khurramjamil]

The whole match was played so very well that you cant believe that it will all end in just 30 mins or so ... we were at the top when Misbah got out and after that it seemed that everyone else wanted to give their wicket away ... its a shameful performance by the Pakis... it was not a one player or two players fault ... it was our whole middle order and the tail ... they way Ajmal played in the end shows that its not very hard to middle the ball then why the hell it was so difficult for players like Umar, Afridi, Younus and all...

[Zaz]

The likes of afridi and hafeez need a serious kick up the backside

They need to be told that their bowling aint enough If they wanna carry on being in the team they need to make runs or ship out

Younis khan for the millioneth time needs to go, we are carrying him now

Sarfraz has had enough chances and gul needs to be dropped

Its the same none performers in every game and enough is enough

[cricketfan86]

umar gul for giving too many runz and droping sanga catch and azhar waz also playing selfishly

[Alamgeer]

Azhar should not be a part of odi squad.we lost last 2 games becoz of his selfish and tuk tuk batting.

[Mobashir]

Azhar and Hafeez are the top match ka Mujrims in the last match.
You can Gul and Misbah has to always be there.

[LegCutter]

Originally Posted by Mobashir Azhar and Hafeez are the top match ka Mujrims in the last match. You can Gul and Misbah has to always be there.

Yup. Akmal, Afridi and YK almost saved the match, but Azhar and Misbah had already done too much damage.

[Zaz]

Originally Posted by Alamgeer Azhar should not be a part of odi squad.we lost last 2 games becoz of his selfish and tuk tuk batting.

Posters like you are unbelievable! A guy that makes the most runs gets the blame but the people who do naff all again get off scott free

Are you a 12 year old or what?

[Statsman]

Originally Posted by Alamgeer Azhar should not be a part of odi squad.we lost last 2 games becoz of his selfish and tuk tuk batting.

Originally Posted by Mobashir Azhar and Hafeez are the top match ka Mujrims in the last match. You can Gul and Misbah has to always be there.

Seriously? Of all?

[farazaidi]

So Azhar is match ka mujrim and Afridi is not? how typical of a Afridi maniacs

[Asif321]

Match ke Mujrim are : Younis, Umar Ak, Afridi and Sarfraz

[Mobashir]

Lol love the double standards: When Umar Akmal played a brilliant knock of 92 agaisnt Sri Lanka after the top order collapsed in UAE, he was the match ka mujrim because he didn't finished the game, but now it is Azhar Ali, so he played brilliantly...
Azhar had played a lot ball, he was the one who had to score...
A SR of 64 is rubbish when chasing 243 as is scoring 81 runs when you play out 45 overs...

[LegCutter]

Originally Posted by Mobashir Lol love the double standards: When Umar Akmal played a brilliant knock of 92 agaisnt Sri Lanka after the top order collapsed in UAE, he was the match ka mujrim because he didn't finished the game, but now it is Azhar Ali, so he played brilliantly... Azhar had played a lot ball, he was the one who had to score... A SR of 64 is rubbish when chasing 243 as is scoring 81 runs when you play out 45 overs...

The thing is, when one player makes 81; and 6 batsmen make 0, I would be pointing my finger at those 6 'batsmen' and not the one who stood from start to end. Azhar cannot make 245 by himself.

Here's an interesting stat I read in another thread:
186 off the 199 runs were scored by three batsmen Misbah, Azhar and Asad. Ajmal scored 12, that makes it 198, the other 7 batsmen scored 1 run.

Yup, you're right; let's blame Azhar, Misbah and Asad; Umar and the rest can get a pat on the back.

[MR__KHAN__JI]

If people can't work out who to blame for this match....

They will never be able to work out who to blame.

[khurramjamil]

It was a deliberate performance by the middle order and the tail enders ..either they wanted to show the captain down or there was something else .. but I could see how they were giving away their wickets purposely... people here who think Azhara and Misbah are the reason of the loss are nuts!!!

[Rizwan25]

Wrong team selection and defensive approach towards every aspect of the game.

[imshally81]

Pak vs Aus Ist ODI.. @ Sharjah..

Sohail Tanveer

[BakuGM]

Kamran Akmal
Hafeez
Sohail Tanvir
Afridi

[RehanG]

Kukri

[talha3]

To single out one person...kukri.

But the whole batting line up is to blame.

[Akmal Dynasty]

Misbah choker
Asad his brainfart triggered the collapse.
Afridi, tanvir cheema and kukri.

[Akmal Dynasty]

Misbah choker
Asad his brainfart triggered the collapse.
Afridi, tanvir cheema and kukri.

[Afridirocks]

Kami/Afridi/Misbah (Batting)

Tanvir/Sohail Tanvir (Bowling)

Misbah Captaincy

[SwingNSeam]

Tanvir.

[Zaz]

Kami, afridi, tanvir, cheema to name the main culprits

[sali]

Selection for selecting Cheema and Tanvir ahead of Junaid and Gul. They would have atleast taken 2 wkts.

Misbah and Shafiq to throw away when they were all set.

[sa88]

Hafeez, Afridi (even Whatmore did a facepalm), Kamran, Tanvir and Cheema.

The first three batted in a pathetic manner. Hafeez has been off-form for some time now. I think his purple patch is over. No more pretty 20s and 30s from the Prof. Its just gonna be ugly 5s and 10s form here.

Kamran and Afridi are so-called flair players that SO many on PakPassion want in the team. Well we went from 160-4 to 175-7 thanks to these flair players.

Tanvir and Cheema were unispiring with the ball. Tanvir in particular was pathetic. We have new ball bowlers who are essentially softening up the ball for the spinners. When did Pakistan resort to that? This is why Umar Gul is our best bowler - the options apart from him are hopeless. Going forward we need UG and Junaid Khan. If Junaid can take wickets in Tests he can take wickets in LOIs.

Other than that good performance!

[Dr_Bassim]

If your batsmen cant set a target dont blame the bowlers.

I reckon 230 and they wouldn't even be talk of Tanvir being crap or Cheema being overrated.

Not to say they are good.

But when you all short of batting targets , World class remains world class, but good becomes just average.

[zulfiqar]

Misbah, Azhar Ali & Hafeez. Forget Kakmal, what do you expect he shouldn't even be there. If you wanna include him as a mujrim, first arrest the idiots who selected him!

[zulfiqar]

Agree with SA that we need gul/junaid! Won't these guys spearhead us in the t20 wc neways? why aren't they here??

[BakuGM]

Originally Posted by zulfiqar Misbah, Azhar Ali & Hafeez. Forget Kakmal, what do you expect he shouldn't even be there. If you wanna include him as a mujrim, first arrest the idiots who selected him!

LMAO, this is too funny but hurts at the same time.

[Khaleefa]

Match ka mujrim Misbah.
Absolutely no contribution and no responsibility and no game plan as a captain of the team.

[MMHS]

1. Asad
2. Misbah

you might be surprised with my choice. But, had Tanveer not gone for 14, yet AUS would have won, may be with 1 more wicket down & in last over - but surely PAK can't defend against Aussie scores that they scored in 45 overs & those calculative Aussies getting 50 overs.

Had I been a punter, at 160/4 with 15 overs left, I would have put bet at 10:1 odd for PAK on that track until Asad somehow managed to calculate that they need to reach 200 by the end of Power play. His shot selection was dumb, specially when his partner was going at 100%. Experience has nothing to do with, not throwing wicket is a fundamental of the game, as we have seen while Baily & Maxwell batted. Before that, Misbah thought that they need 275.

As I said in another post, PAK can hardly win a meaningful match against a calculative side (or Captain - as long as MS is Captain, I don't see PAK beating IND) for the dumbness & negligence of their batsmen. Once the target was near 200, I could see a battle royal by Ajmal & gong but again, none can beat the Aussies batting only 90% overs.

Last 3 Pak defeats in ODI were due to sheer casualness & irresponsibility during batting & fielding. We might see Dav resigning if this goes on - his self respect 'll hurt his ego too much to take this mediocrity.

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by MMHS 1. Asad 2. Misbah you might be surprised with my choice. But, had Tanveer not gone for 14, yet AUS would have won, may be with 1 more wicket down & in last over - but surely PAK can't defend against Aussie scores that they scored in 45 overs & those calculative Aussies getting 50 overs. Had I been a punter, at 160/4 with 15 overs left, I would have put bet at 10:1 odd for PAK on that track until Asad somehow managed to calculate that they need to reach 200 by the end of Power play. His shot selection was dumb, specially when his partner was going at 100%. Experience has nothing to do with, not throwing wicket is a fundamental of the game, as we have seen while Baily & Maxwell batted. Before that, Misbah thought that they need 275. As I said in another post, PAK can hardly win a meaningful match against a calculative side (or Captain - as long as MS is Captain, I don't see PAK beating IND) for the dumbness & negligence of their batsmen. Once the target was near 200, I could see a battle royal by Ajmal & gong but again, none can beat the Aussies batting only 90% overs. Last 3 Pak defeats in ODI were due to sheer casualness & irresponsibility during batting & fielding. We might see Dav resigning if this goes on - his self respect 'll hurt his ego too much to take this mediocrity.

Dave would have an input as to what kind of target pakistan wanted to set, and all the revisions to it.

As for mediocrity, I am sure Dave had a say in playing Tanvir and Cheema. That's mediocrity personified for you

[the Great Khan]

our top order..namel jamshed moata aloo, hafeezcant score duck egg prof, and azhar for his brainless shot..

then our lower order..our tail basically starts at 7.. afridi is just over the hill now...chap cant bat to save his life..needs to be retired...kami is just a pathetic cricketer..a mere pub cricketer..tanvir is just rubbish...a gully bowler..cheema is mediocre...

respect to shafiq and akmal for trying their damndest and getting us into a decent position ..160-4 with 12 overs or so to go is a decent platform for our lower order...oh How I miss a firing razzaq!! that boy had real talent and was treated pretty poorly..he would have had the ball nipping about today and would probably scored a few aswell..we should have selected hamaad and not dropped rahat...i really think we need a mass clear out!! Id rahter lose with some new players then have to watch these tried and tested jokers!!

[MMHS]

Originally Posted by waqar_ahmad Dave would have an input as to what kind of target pakistan wanted to set, and all the revisions to it. As for mediocrity, I am sure Dave had a say in playing Tanvir and Cheema. That's mediocrity personified for you

Tanveer & Cheema didn't bowl bad - not to me. Neither their selection was poor (don't back too much on Junaid, had Aamer & Asif been around, he won't have debut yet). If your opposition batsman can count how many balls & what to get with which bowler has how many overs left; you can hardly blame the bowlers. Tanveer was bowler in form & Cheema can reverse the ball - I don't see much wrong in that.

Put another 25 to that 198, you would have found find these 2 bowling much better, because then those Aussies won't be able to sit back & wait to hit. Another 35 runs, Ajmal would have got a 5-fer today - he can bamboozle a batsmen, but can't force a dumbness or idiocy.

It's simple - Cheema bowled a lot of balls that could have crashed the stumps, Aussie batters has self-respect & accountability - didn't do an Asad. Tanveer moved lot of balls away from the bat, Aussie batters didn't do a Hafeez or Asad. Few years back in UAE, chasing 198 against Aussies, I think PAK was 96/0 in 23 overs, & then Cleark took 4/13 or so to win the match - I don't think he bowled better than Cheema of today.

Dav 'll have constantly given input to the team regarding target, milestones & I am sure before the 3rd PP, he categorically instructed Asad & Umar to stick around & what sort of target they should look for (he breaks the game in 5/10 overs slot & set smaller milestones to reduce the pressure).

Bet on that, surely he hadn't instructed Misbah to go for a cow shot at 102/3 in 24th over, neither had instructed Asad to open his stumps & play one of the least % shot in cricket - in-side out lofted off drive against a tall lefty pace bowler, bowling from wide round the wicket.

[saeed-sohail]

Pathetic to see Misbah Asad and Hafeez being blamed. Blame lies with Afridi Kami in batting and fast bowlers.

[speed]

Originally Posted by saeed-sohail Pathetic to see Misbah Asad and Hafeez being blamed. Blame lies with Afridi Kami in batting and fast bowlers.

you have to question misbah and asad shot selection when they were set.

[iHammad]

LOL @ PPers, the guy that stabilized the innings, Asad Shafiq is being blamed. How is he match ka mujrim? He's one of the two players that actually scored runs for us, how did he lose us the match?!

The batsmen that didn't score, and the two fast bowlers that got spanked, are the ones that should be blamed.

[Dr_Bassim]

Originally Posted by MMHS 1. Asad 2. Misbah you might be surprised with my choice. But, had Tanveer not gone for 14, yet AUS would have won, may be with 1 more wicket down & in last over - but surely PAK can't defend against Aussie scores that they scored in 45 overs & those calculative Aussies getting 50 overs. Had I been a punter, at 160/4 with 15 overs left, I would have put bet at 10:1 odd for PAK on that track until Asad somehow managed to calculate that they need to reach 200 by the end of Power play. His shot selection was dumb, specially when his partner was going at 100%. Experience has nothing to do with, not throwing wicket is a fundamental of the game, as we have seen while Baily & Maxwell batted. Before that, Misbah thought that they need 275. As I said in another post, PAK can hardly win a meaningful match against a calculative side (or Captain - as long as MS is Captain, I don't see PAK beating IND) for the dumbness & negligence of their batsmen. Once the target was near 200, I could see a battle royal by Ajmal & gong but again, none can beat the Aussies batting only 90% overs. Last 3 Pak defeats in ODI were due to sheer casualness & irresponsibility during batting & fielding. We might see Dav resigning if this goes on - his self respect 'll hurt his ego too much to take this mediocrity.

Originally Posted by speed you have to question misbah and asad shot selection when they were set.

Yeah , so when Michael Clarke got out at worst possible time,

Australia fell like nine pins and blamed Clarke for the loss.

Great thinking.