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Old 4th July 2012, 20:14
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Misbah ul Haq Moves Level with Sachin Tendulkar in the ICC Test Rankings

Latest batting rankings after the concluded 2nd Test match between Sri Lanka and Pakistan.

Top 20 batsman

1 892 K.C. Sangakkara 938 v England, 01/12/2007
2 856 S. Chanderpaul 901 v New Zealand, 19/12/2008
3 821 A.B. de Villiers 821 v New Zealand, 23/03/2012
4 819 J.H. Kallis 935 v New Zealand, 18/11/2007
5 796 Younus Khan 880 v Sri Lanka, 21/02/2009
6 771 M.J. Clarke 855 v England, 09/08/2009
7 763 H.M. Amla 842 v India, 14/02/2010
8 761 R.L. Taylor 775 v Pakistan, 03/12/2009
9 756 A.N. Cook 836 v India, 10/08/2011
10 753 G.C. Smith 843 v England, 14/01/2010
11 749 S.R. Tendulkar 898 v Zimbabwe, 21/02/2002
11 749 Misbah-ul-Haq 771 v England, 25/01/2012

13 742 Azhar Ali 749 v England, 03/02/2012
14 723 I.R. Bell 822 v India, 18/08/2011
14 723 T.T. Samaraweera 775 v South Africa, 03/01/2012
16 719 D.P.M.D. Jayawardene 883 v India, 16/11/2009
17 718 K.P. Pietersen 909 v West Indies, 28/05/2007
18 709 I.J.L. Trott 856 v Sri Lanka, 26/05/2011
19 705 M.E.K. Hussey 921 v West Indies, 23/05/2008
20 691 R.T. Ponting 942 v England, 01/12/2006
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Old 4th July 2012, 20:17
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Old 4th July 2012, 20:25
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whos 12th ?
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Old 4th July 2012, 20:29
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whos 12th ?
if two batsmen are number 11 then there is no number 12..
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Old 4th July 2012, 20:40
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Old 4th July 2012, 20:44
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3 Pakistanis, 1 Indian in the Top 20.
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Old 4th July 2012, 20:47
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3 Pakistanis, 1 Indian in the Top 20.
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Old 4th July 2012, 20:47
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Old 4th July 2012, 20:49
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The actual Shabash goes to Azhar Ali for rank 13!
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Old 4th July 2012, 20:50
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what exactly are ranking points based on ?
average on that particular series ?
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Old 4th July 2012, 20:54
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can they make into top ten?

if they make it, then i think it would be first time in many years that 3 of Pakistani batsmen make it in top10
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Old 4th July 2012, 20:56
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whos 12th ?
should be misbah cuz sachin made more runs so he might beat msbah by decimal point wish misbah had gone for century plus in last test as we all knew gonna be draw :p
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Old 4th July 2012, 21:22
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Old 4th July 2012, 21:27
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Remember when Azhar was equal to SRT what happened. Poor guy moved down. So, watch out Misbah.
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Old 4th July 2012, 21:28
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Remember when Azhar was equal to SRT what happened. Poor guy moved down. So, watch out Misbah.
But now it's time for Teendu to fall down.
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Old 4th July 2012, 21:28
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Tendulkar is India's Misbah-Ul-Haq
Never thought any Pakistani on PP forum would ever compliment Sachin Tendulkar.
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Old 4th July 2012, 21:37
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Never thought any Pakistani on PP forum would ever compliment Sachin Tendulkar.

Your right Misbah is younger and better than Tendulkar and he is more like Imran Farhat of India.

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Old 4th July 2012, 21:46
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Actually don't give much credence to the ICC rankings

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Old 4th July 2012, 22:05
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But now it's time for Teendu to fall down.
Disregarding last test vs SL, Pakistan play SA next in SA. Won't be easy for And India plays NZ and England at home.
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Old 4th July 2012, 22:52
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Disregarding last test vs SL, Pakistan play SA next in SA. Won't be easy for And India plays NZ and England at home.
Agreed.

Misbah doesn't deserve to be level in any statistic with Sachin.
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Old 4th July 2012, 22:55
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Azhar Ali > Misbah ul Tuk

watch him move into the top-10 soon
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Old 4th July 2012, 23:06
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well Misbah has been doing better than tendulkar these days. Averages just under 70 after he took up captaincy/recent comeback to the side. That's damn impressive. Tendulkar obviously throughout his career has been a far better player, but in terms of recent success Misbah's outperformed him.

Misbah will be in the top ten soon enough.
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Old 4th July 2012, 23:10
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Agreed.

Misbah doesn't deserve to be level in any statistic with Sachin.
Bit harsh on Misbah! If he does well, he deserve to overpass Sachin.
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Old 4th July 2012, 23:17
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Never thought any Pakistani on PP forum would ever compliment Sachin Tendulkar.
Maybe you should look a bit harder then.
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Old 4th July 2012, 23:17
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Bit harsh on Misbah! If he does well, he deserve to overpass Sachin.
Misbahs been terrific over the last coupls of years, both as a player and captain.

I still don't think he will ever overtake Sachin, time was never on his side.
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Old 4th July 2012, 23:29
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Misbahs been terrific over the last coupls of years, both as a player and captain.

I still don't think he will ever overtake Sachin, time was never on his side.
I meant in ICC rankings only.
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Old 4th July 2012, 23:31
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I meant in ICC rankings only.
Fair enough, but even in the rankings it just doesn't feel right to me.
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Old 5th July 2012, 00:09
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Old 5th July 2012, 00:18
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Can't wait for Shahrukh and Ironcat to comment on this
Unlike your Afridi-worshipping gang, I need not comment. Misbah's actions do all the talking.
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Old 5th July 2012, 00:49
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Old 5th July 2012, 00:54
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Old 5th July 2012, 01:31
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Fair enough, but even in the rankings it just doesn't feel right to me.
:facepalm.
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Old 5th July 2012, 02:11
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its and funny and all..OK

but whats misbah got to do with ranking alongside tendulkar

tendulkar is performing how he is and he is on 11 and exactly the same with misbah

could have been anyone and misbah

or anyone and tendulkar
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Old 5th July 2012, 02:52
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Good for Misbah!

And wow, Azhar has really done Pakistan proud. InshaAllah, he will improve even more in these coming months
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Old 5th July 2012, 03:25
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Whats more interesting is that Pakistan has 3 batsman in the Top 20 compared to India's 1. That to me is amazing. So with Dravid gone is our Test batting lineup better than India's at the moment.
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Old 5th July 2012, 04:25
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Agreed.

Misbah doesn't deserve to be level in any statistic with Sachin.
Misbah captaincy>>>>Tendulkar captaincy
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Old 5th July 2012, 05:32
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Agreed.

Misbah doesn't deserve to be level in any statistic with Sachin.
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Old 5th July 2012, 06:36
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Old 5th July 2012, 06:44
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What happened to the great Indian batting line up ?
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Old 5th July 2012, 07:15
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Azhar Ali > Misbah ul Tuk

watch him move into the top-10 soon
Both are the best batsmen in our Test team and both deserve praise. They're members of the same team, be glad that they're both playing for Pakistan rather than trying to make it a Misbah vs Azhar issue.

Congrats Misbah and Azhar Ali, we know Misbah didnt play in the 1st test and the result was reminiscent of the whooping we got by England and Australia in the pre-Misbah era.
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Old 5th July 2012, 07:28
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Good, Hopefully Misbah and Azhar break into top 10.
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Old 5th July 2012, 07:35
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Who cares that they all make their batting rankings better in a draw? We are still loosing 1-0 because none of them played well when needed.
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Old 5th July 2012, 07:59
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Who cares that they all make their batting rankings better in a draw? We are still loosing 1-0 because none of them played well when needed.
Noooo what matters is the rankings and individual records remember?
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Old 5th July 2012, 08:03
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Who cares that they all make their batting rankings better in a draw? We are still loosing 1-0 because none of them played well when needed.
The rain played a huge factor in the 2nd Test, 127 overs were lost

Can't blame the Team
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Old 5th July 2012, 08:25
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Old 5th July 2012, 09:10
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Old 5th July 2012, 09:17
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Old 5th July 2012, 09:29
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The rain played a huge factor in the 2nd Test, 127 overs were lost

Can't blame the Team
I am not blamming the team for scoring good in the second test but for not scoring when you need them to score the most.
So far in this series that is the first Test.
I really don't care about Azhar, Hafeez, Or Misbah's average. Even if they can score 40 runs that help the team to win I will apreciate them. But scoring big hundreds and remaining not out on flat pitches were there is no other chance but a draw, I really don't care.
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Old 5th July 2012, 09:37
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I am not blamming the team for scoring good in the second test but for not scoring when you need them to score the most.
So far in this series that is the first Test.
I really don't care about Azhar, Hafeez, Or Misbah's average. Even if they can score 40 runs that help the team to win I will apreciate them. But scoring big hundreds and remaining not out on flat pitches were there is no other chance but a draw, I really don't care.
Yeah I agree, First Test was a disaster.
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Old 5th July 2012, 09:47
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What happened to the great Indian batting line up ?
oh wait,do you wanna compare??

Hafeez
Umar
Azhar
YK
Misbah
Does these avg batting line up deserve to be compared with gr8 batting team of IND.
Yes,they lost really badly in OZ and ENG but they recovered from those losses and we gonna reach the no 1 again...
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Old 5th July 2012, 09:51
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oh wait,do you wanna compare??

Hafeez
Umar
Azhar
YK
Misbah
Does these avg batting line up deserve to be compared with gr8 batting team of IND.
Yes,they lost really badly in OZ and ENG but they recovered from those losses and we gonna reach the no 1 again...
When did that happen? In their or your dreams?
India is yet to play Test cricket again, or is IPL now a considered a good enough recovery for a 8-0 beating you guys received?
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Old 5th July 2012, 10:05
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oh wait,do you wanna compare??

Hafeez
Umar
Azhar
YK
Misbah
Does these avg batting line up deserve to be compared with gr8 batting team of IND.
Yes,they lost really badly in OZ and ENG but they recovered from those losses and we gonna reach the no 1 again...
There is no gr8 batting line up of India anymore.

But respect to your ambition to get back to number 1. Thats the spirit
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Old 5th July 2012, 10:10
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oh wait,do you wanna compare??

Hafeez
Umar
Azhar
YK
Misbah
Does these avg batting line up deserve to be compared with gr8 batting team of IND.
Yes,they lost really badly in OZ and ENG but they recovered from those losses and we gonna reach the no 1 again...
Recovered in IPL ??
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Old 5th July 2012, 10:45
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^^^^we performed quite well in the tri series in OZ,and vs PAK IN ASIA CUP.......WHO WON???
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Old 5th July 2012, 10:54
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^^^^we performed quite well in the tri series in OZ,and vs PAK IN ASIA CUP.......WHO WON???
Pakistan won the Asia Cup

One lose doesn't matter.
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I mentioned Misbahs been terrific as a player and captain, yet the facepalms keep turning up

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Old 5th July 2012, 11:47
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Shouldn't Azhar be higher as he has just come from a ton? Tendulkar & Azhar was the same. Tendulkar hasn't played test cricket in that time. Azhar has and Azhar just scored a ton :S?
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But respect to your ambition to get back to number 1. Thats the spirit
Maybe the players should show the same spirit as the fans are?

Last I checked they were falling over like a pack of cards away from home.
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Old 5th July 2012, 11:53
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Every thing comes up naturally for Misbah in test cricket as a player and as a captain ...and most things Misbah has, come as unnatural for limited over cricket...
but even then Misbah is needed naturally for our fragile batting in limited cricket too....
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There is no gr8 batting line up of India anymore.

But respect to your ambition to get back to number 1. Thats the spirit
Gonna make a clean sweep in home tests with the likes of Murli Vijay scoring double tons for fun. We will be #1 soon.
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Old 5th July 2012, 12:03
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any Indian who still talsk abt test cricket is just pretending to be a class cricket fan
after the drubbing we got , IPL and the cricket overdose by BCCI , we dont have any interest in test cricket
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any Indian who still talsk abt test cricket is just pretending to be a class cricket fan
after the drubbing we got , IPL and the cricket overdose by BCCI , we dont have any interest in test cricket
You have a point but the reason mentioned is incorrect. In fact the spanking at the hands of Aussies and English have made many of us more determined to see Indian team thrashing them in a similar way in tests.

I think test Cricket is fine but i am completely against people not giving ODI cricket and performances the respect and appreciation they deserve.
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Old 5th July 2012, 12:30
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Weldone misbah.
Hope we get both Misbah and Azhar in top 10. That would be great.
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Old 5th July 2012, 12:59
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any Indian who still talsk abt test cricket is just pretending to be a class cricket fan
after the drubbing we got , IPL and the cricket overdose by BCCI , we dont have any interest in test cricket
You talk about yourself. Why do you want to generalize what "any indian" talks? Many Indians want India to succeed at the international level and not just see Indians thrash themselves.
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Old 5th July 2012, 13:46
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Who cares that they all make their batting rankings better in a draw? We are still loosing 1-0 because none of them played well when needed.
We lost the first test because the captain was missing.

We nearly won the second test with him back in the team - the rain bailed SL out.

But thanks for trying.
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Old 5th July 2012, 13:48
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Shouldn't Azhar be higher as he has just come from a ton? Tendulkar & Azhar was the same. Tendulkar hasn't played test cricket in that time. Azhar has and Azhar just scored a ton :S?
It's not all based on the last test. Misbah averages 68 in the last 2 years. Azhar 44.
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Old 5th July 2012, 13:54
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Shouldn't Azhar be higher as he has just come from a ton? Tendulkar & Azhar was the same. Tendulkar hasn't played test cricket in that time. Azhar has and Azhar just scored a ton :S?
Performance in the first test is the reason i guess
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Old 5th July 2012, 13:57
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You talk about yourself. Why do you want to generalize what "any indian" talks? Many Indians want India to succeed at the international level and not just see Indians thrash themselves.

obviously why any indian dont want to see india doing well ??
anyway you didnt address my point

if you can understand why ind vs windies test match was played in near empty stadium at Eden gardens , then you can get my point
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We lost the first test because the captain was missing.

We nearly won the second test with him back in the team - the rain bailed SL out.

But thanks for trying.
We lost the first Test because Hafeez, Azhar Ali and others were not good enough with the bat...
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We lost the first Test because Hafeez, Azhar Ali and others were not good enough with the bat...
Yet they suddenly were a week later.
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There is no gr8 batting line up of India anymore.

But respect to your ambition to get back to number 1. Thats the spirit
Such a troll

Love It
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Yet they suddenly were a week later.
Nothing to do with the presence of Misbah.
You can't always score big who ever your captain is. Especailly a change of captain for one match doesn't affect the batting of a team.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/531630.html

Example of Azhar Ali failing in one innings with Misbah as captain and scoring big in the second innings.
Sometimes you bat well, sometimes you doesn't.
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Old 5th July 2012, 21:08
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Nothing to do with the presence of Misbah.
You can't always score big who ever your captain is. Especailly a change of captain for one match doesn't affect the batting of a team.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/531630.html

Example of Azhar Ali failing in one innings with Misbah as captain and scoring big in the second innings.
Sometimes you bat well, sometimes you doesn't.
That example tells me that Azhar scored 158 runs in a test match with Misbah in it. Doesn't prove anything else.

A captain makes all the difference by guiding the team on how to approach the opponents' total, how not to let the opponents score 500-odd, how to change plans such that you don't get bowled twice cheaply, and so on.

The only change in the team between the two tests of this series was Misbah. (Well, Cheema was another, but he hardly mattered.) So, unless you have another piece of evidence, I see the captaincy as the what made the prime difference.
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Old 5th July 2012, 21:21
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That example tells me that Azhar scored 158 runs in a test match with Misbah in it. Doesn't prove anything else.

A captain makes all the difference by guiding the team on how to approach the opponents' total, how not to let the opponents score 500-odd, how to change plans such that you don't get bowled twice cheaply, and so on.
Couldn't Misbah tell Pakistani players all this sitting in the dressing room?
Or is there a law that when you are banned you can't even open your mouth?
As we are talking about batting, his presence on the field was not mandatory, or does he changes plan every ball?
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Couldn't Misbah tell Pakistani players all this sitting in the dressing room?
Or is there a law that when you are banned you can't even open your mouth?
As we are talking about batting, his presence on the field was not mandatory, or does he changes plan every ball?
That "you can captain a team by sitting in a dressing room" is probably the most comical statement I have read in a while.
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oh wait,do you wanna compare??

Hafeez
Umar
Azhar
YK
Misbah
Does these avg batting line up deserve to be compared with gr8 batting team of IND.
Yes,they lost really badly in OZ and ENG but they recovered from those losses and we gonna reach the no 1 again...
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Old 7th July 2012, 06:34
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obviously why any indian dont want to see india doing well ??
anyway you didnt address my point

if you can understand why ind vs windies test match was played in near empty stadium at Eden gardens , then you can get my point
There is an annual festival there, the CLT20 is shifted this year because of that.
Why don't you attend tests at Bangalore and Chennai , there are good crowds there everytime. STOP WORRYING ABOUT KOLKATA.
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Old 7th July 2012, 07:00
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^^^^we performed quite well in the tri series in OZ,and vs PAK IN ASIA CUP.......WHO WON???
lol @ indian definition of performing well , 3rd position in a tri series , couldnt even make the final of either tournament , cant blame you guys though ,for far too long the only thing the indians ever won on the field was sympathy
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