Hafeez Will Not Be Removed As T20 Captain: Zaka Ashraf

[cricketfan86]

just watched it on samma
He Said that Hafeez Will Not Be Removed As T20 Captain and Afridi hasnt expressed any desire to be captain and selection of Misbah in T20 depends on the selection committee

[shahidafridi123]

nooooo

[LegCutter]

Zaka Ashraf really knows how to give his statements: straight, clear and to the point.

[Mobashir]

If Hafeez remains T20 captain we will play a 10 man team with a big handicap at the top of the innings.

[mastermind_quad]

Player <--> Media

Management <--> Media

Psychologist <--> Media

etc

....nothing new...

[iHammad]

Good decision by Zaka Ashraf

[omairsiddiqui]

How ridiculous is it that he actually had to come out and say that for a captain who has only led his side in two matches? Thank you, Pakistani media.

[LastLaugh_PK]

Originally Posted by Mobashir If Hafeez remains T20 captain we will play a 10 man team with a big handicap at the top of the innings.

Yea the handicap would be Mr. Boom Boom

More likely to go bust than boom.

[Down2Earth]

well it makes sense, in the absence of misbah, hafeez is the only choice as captain.

[Afridirocks]

Originally Posted by LastLaugh_PK Yea the handicap would be Mr. Boom Boom More likely to go bust than boom.

mate the only reason why we won last t20 game was because of afridi... it was a one man show

[rhussain33]

I would still open with Nazir & Jamshed...

Hafeez does not make it in my playing XI

But I guess Ill just have to live with him being captain and opening the batting

[insaaniyat]

Originally Posted by cricketfan86 just watched it on samma He Said that Hafeez Will Not Be Removed As T20 Captain and Afridi hasnt expressed any desire to be captain and selection of Misbah in T20 depends on the selection committee

Poor Afridi. Afridi's desire is all over the Media. Plz Zaka Saheb it's not fair to Afridi

[Zamee]

Hafeez and Afridi both are imp for our T20 squad. Doesnt matter who the captain is. Id like Hafeez as captain because of his decent field placements.

[saeed-sohail]

Originally Posted by Mobashir If Hafeez remains T20 captain we will play a 10 man team with a big handicap at the top of the innings.

Anything would be better then being led by the bloke who singlehandedly turned the best t20 side in the world into one of the worst during his captaincy.

[Canistani Hero]

Good decision. If they made him the captain, they should persist with him and give him a chance to prove himself.

[saeed-sohail]

Afridi brigade including ppers and Geo/Jang experts answer me one question. You wanted to get rid of Misbah a bloke who has win ratio of 75% as t20 captain.

Now do you want us to go back to a guy who is the worst t20 captain in Pakistan history. Afridi is the only captain who lost 60% games he captained his team. All others including Misbah YK and Malik has win ratio of 60% or more.

In 3 t20 world cups so far Afridi produced the worst result for Pakistan.

[Mobashir]

Originally Posted by LastLaugh_PK Yea the handicap would be Mr. Boom Boom More likely to go bust than boom.

Another poster who can't read the title before posting?
The thread is about Mohammad Hafeez.

[Mobashir]

Originally Posted by saeed-sohail Anything would be better then being led by the bloke who singlehandedly turned the best t20 side in the world into one of the worst during his captaincy.

The bloke you are talking about is the one who won you the T20 world cup and who give you the chance to play the final in another one.

[mastermind_quad]

@SS

Not supporting Afridi or anybody but tell me what Captain can do .. If the team as a unit is not performing.

[Mobashir]

Originally Posted by saeed-sohail Afridi brigade including ppers and Geo/Jang experts answer me one question. You wanted to get rid of Misbah a bloke who has win ratio of 75% as t20 captain. Now do you want us to go back to a guy who is the worst t20 captain in Pakistan history. Afridi is the only captain who lost 60% games he captained his team. All others including Misbah YK and Malik has win ratio of 60% or more. In 3 t20 world cups so far Afridi produced the worst result for Pakistan.

Why so much hate for Afridi?
Show me one PPer who said he wants Afridi as T20 captain in this thread?

[Down2Earth]

Originally Posted by mastermind_quad @SS Not supporting Afridi or anybody but tell me what Captain can do .. If the team as a unit is not performing.

Certain bowling changes and field placing makes all the difference. Retarded captaincy will result in more losses than wins.

[mastermind_quad]

Originally Posted by Down2Earth Certain bowling changes and field placing makes all the difference. Retarded captaincy will result in more losses than wins.

Ok... if the captaincy affected the team performance then I agree.

[Afridirocks]

Originally Posted by saeed-sohail Afridi brigade including ppers and Geo/Jang experts answer me one question. You wanted to get rid of Misbah a bloke who has win ratio of 75% as t20 captain. Now do you want us to go back to a guy who is the worst t20 captain in Pakistan history. Afridi is the only captain who lost 60% games he captained his team. All others including Misbah YK and Malik has win ratio of 60% or more. In 3 t20 world cups so far Afridi produced the worst result for Pakistan.

yaar why do you keep coming up with Anti Afridi posts and thread when the topic has nothing to do with Afridi... like seriously be a bit more mature

[Down2Earth]

Originally Posted by mastermind_quad Ok... if the captaincy affected the team performance then I agree.

Pushing for the inclusion of players like Shahzaib hassan and sami doesn't help either

[Mobashir]

Originally Posted by Down2Earth Certain bowling changes and field placing makes all the difference. Retarded captaincy will result in more losses than wins.

The same bowling changes and filed placings that we saw in the T20's against england in the UAE? or against Sri Lanka in the two T20's?
Thank Afridi for saving the Sri Lankan series with a super human, one man show, man of the match performance.

[Mobashir]

Originally Posted by Down2Earth Pushing for the inclusion of players like Shahzaib hassan and sami doesn't help either

Hafeez also pushed for Sami.
Afridi pushed for Shazaib Hasan who was the best T20 batsman in our domestic tournament.
Misbah had a midle order with Younis, himself and Shafik in a T20 game... Enough said...

[saeed-sohail]

Originally Posted by Mobashir The bloke you are talking about is the one who won you the T20 world cup and who give you the chance to play the final in another one.

First he did not win us the world cup it was a team effort. Second I have no problem with him as a player in t20s as he is one of the best in business in the format.

[ads101]

Hafeez should remain captain, but I'd like him to move down the order for T20.

Maybe something like this
1. Imran Nazir
2. Ahmed Shehzad
3. Nasir Jamshed
4. Umar Akmal (wk)
5. Afridi
6. Harris Sohail/Malik
7. Hafeez
8. Hammad Azam

[saeed-sohail]

Originally Posted by Afridirocks yaar why do you keep coming up with Anti Afridi posts and thread when the topic has nothing to do with Afridi... like seriously be a bit more mature

Yaar I don't have problem with him as a player. Its just when people who wanted to get rid of Misbah in T20s are now saying Hafeez is a liability after two games as captain.

[Mobashir]

Originally Posted by saeed-sohail Yaar I don't have problem with him as a player. Its just when people who wanted to get rid of Misbah in T20s are now saying Hafeez is a liability after two games as captain.

Who said his captaincy is a liability?
His batting is...

[saeed-sohail]

Originally Posted by Mobashir Who said his captaincy is a liability? His batting is...

Yes he has been in horrendous form in LOIs off late but who would you rather lead the team now that Misbah is not captain?

[ads101]

Originally Posted by Mobashir Who said his captaincy is a liability? His batting is...

to be honest in T20 his batting isn't so much of an issue. He's our fifth bowler. More important for him to bowl well than it is to bat well. If just one bowler bowls badly, that can often mean the game's lost. On the other hand usually not every batsmen will even need to bat.

We will be playing 6 specialist batsmen excluding hafeez. Afridi is sort of an allrounder in the T20 format. And then we have hafeez too. Even our tailenders, Gul, Ajmal can hit a bit. If we can't even last 20 overs we're not going to win the cup. The fact there are so many batsmen and so few overs means there's little worry about lasting 20 overs it's more trying to score as quick as possible.

Bat Hafeez at 6 or 7 just in case anything goes wrong, and bring some experience to the lower order.

It would be of great help if his batting does come back, but honestly I'd just try some new openers in T20.

[Square Drive]

Good choice, he didn't do anything wrong after all... as for his batting, Hafeez should bat anywhere but at 1-2.

[LegCutter]

Originally Posted by ads101 Hafeez should remain captain, but I'd like him to move down the order for T20. Maybe something like this 1. Imran Nazir 2. Ahmed Shehzad 3. Nasir Jamshed 4. Umar Akmal (wk) 5. Afridi 6. Harris Sohail/Malik 7. Hafeez 8. Hammad Azam

That just doesnt seem like a very good idea.... :

Imran Nazir 15 (5)
Ahmed Shehzad 10 (3)
Nasir Jamshed 25 (15)
Umar Akmal 30 (20)
Afridi 10 (2)
Haris Sohail 1 (1)
Hafeez 0 (1)
Hammad Azam 20 (15)

4 extras

115 all out

[ads101]

Originally Posted by LegCutter That just doesnt seem like a very good idea.... : Imran Nazir 15 (5) Ahmed Shehzad 10 (3) Nasir Jamshed 25 (15) Umar Akmal 30 (20) Afridi 10 (2) Haris Sohail 1 (1) Hafeez 0 (1) Hammad Azam 20 (15) 4 extras 115 all out

we've got to play more aggressive cricket in T20. In T20 there is virtually no balance between those that stay at the crease and those who go aggressive. You've got to hit from the start. We need to get into that sort of thinking. And don't go into a shell if a wicket falls, play normally.

There's not really many others you can put instead of the guys there. Misbah's gone (I would have had him as captain). At least if you can't guarantee any of our guys will bat for long periods of time (which you can't), at least pick the guys who at least you know can hit from the start and rotate strike if needed.

We're consistently getting scores of around 120. Which isn't good enough. At least filled with so many hitters, sloggers if you will, we could get more. I'd take bottling for a low totals some matches due to the high risk batting order, if we can put up higher scores for others. Even bottling as you've posted for 120 or so isn't worse than are current effort where we're getting 120 with wickets in hand at a terrible strike rate.

[Sherlock]

Originally Posted by mastermind_quad Player <--> Media Management <--> Media Psychologist <--> Media etc ....nothing new...

Yeah because India is a fort knox of silence

[LastLaugh_PK]

We used to be the best t20 team in the world, by far. Don't know what happened.

[Saj]

I dont agree with this chopping and changing the captains in any format.

You have to have some sort of stability and not just make someone captain for just a couple of matches, unless the incumbent resigns himself of course.

Give Hafeez a chance, lets see what he can do.

[saeed-sohail]

Originally Posted by LastLaugh_PK We used to be the best t20 team in the world, by far. Don't know what happened.

Afridi the captain happened.

[FusedBulb]

Originally Posted by Saj I dont agree with this chopping and changing the captains in any format. You have to have some sort of stability and not just make someone captain for just a couple of matches, unless the incumbent resigns himself of course. Give Hafeez a chance, lets see what he can do.

A more serious side effect is that if you have 5 former captains playing under you and the captaincy ball keeps bouncing back n forth among the six of you then ALL of you lose that bearing on the field. The captaincy becomes a joke and the position itself loses the bite.

It will be a sad picture if we could sketch out a basic data that displays how many captains did we have in the last 5 years, and how many times they were chopped off and resurrected.

A good solid leadership has been Pakistan's problem in almost every department in the last 65 years.
Looks like a manufacturing fault that is deeply hardwired into our genetic structure.

[wick94]

Yessssssssssss

[Liverpoolred]

Pakistan stand absolutely no chance of winning the upcoming T20 world cup.

[Bullet Drive]

Saeed needs to mature a bit. First he says cricket is a team game which is right and Afridi didn't win us the world cup and then he says Afridi the captain made the best T20 side in the world the worst.. Afridi that on his own did he? Wasn't it a team effort then or is it just selective thinking from you and anything to target Afridi? Afridi made all other 10 players play poorly? You need to mature up a bit and realise how silly you sound sometimes. Its pure hate towards Afridi and almost in every thread you bring him up when the thread isn't even related to Afridi.

[LastLaugh_PK]

Guys don't hate on him just because he criticized Afridi. I am sure Afridi's T20 captaincy stats are nothing to write home about. He is a useful player in the format, but things like captaincy are beyond his mental capacity.

[Myrmidon]

no way


t20 world cup will be lost under hafeez quite badly

notice how pak got destroyed in tests under hafeez but as soon as misbah came back the match was a draw lol


also lost one t20 quite badly

and won a t20 because of afridi

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by LastLaugh_PK We used to be the best t20 team in the world, by far. Don't know what happened.

The captain was pushed away by the oath taking brigade, thats what happened.

Afridi took over, who is one of the best T20 players, but one of the worst captains ever. He is in the same category as malik and Yousaf as captain

[saeed-sohail]

Originally Posted by Bullet Drive Saeed needs to mature a bit. First he says cricket is a team game which is right and Afridi didn't win us the world cup and then he says Afridi the captain made the best T20 side in the world the worst.. Afridi that on his own did he? Wasn't it a team effort then or is it just selective thinking from you and anything to target Afridi? Afridi made all other 10 players play poorly? You need to mature up a bit and realise how silly you sound sometimes. Its pure hate towards Afridi and almost in every thread you bring him up when the thread isn't even related to Afridi.

Bhai Sahab you realise how bad Afridi is once you mature a bit. Captain is the key component of any team. He is the one who makes key decisions in a game that effect the outcome. Like....
Opening the bowling with a rookie 17 year old with likes of Arafat Rao and Tanvir in the squad.
Like making shazaib open and sitting Butt on the bench.
Like sending Afridi at three in key games. Shame Afridi did not do that during his own captaincy so we know who made that call.

A player on the other hand can't do everything on his own because for that he will have to score a 100 every game and take a 5fer.

[insaaniyat]

Originally Posted by mastermind_quad Ok... if the captaincy affected the team performance then I agree.

With Afridi as captain it does. Afridi is not leader and never will be. He is just a 16 years old trouble maker

[insaaniyat]

Originally Posted by Saj I dont agree with this chopping and changing the captains in any format. You have to have some sort of stability and not just make someone captain for just a couple of matches, unless the incumbent resigns himself of course. Give Hafeez a chance, lets see what he can do.

You may not agree Saj bhai, but changing and chopping will continue as long as we have players like Afridi in the team. He will never let any captain settle down

[cricket365]

I think he meant to say ... Hafeez Will Not Be Removed As T20 Captain yet..

[waqar_ahmad]

Originally Posted by saeed-sohail Bhai Sahab you realise how bad Afridi is once you mature a bit. Captain is the key component of any team. He is the one who makes key decisions in a game that effect the outcome. Like.... Opening the bowling with a rookie 17 year old with likes of Arafat Rao and Tanvir in the squad. Like making shazaib open and sitting Butt on the bench. Like sending Afridi at three in key games. Shame Afridi did not do that during his own captaincy so we know who made that call. A player on the other hand can't do everything on his own because for that he will have to score a 100 every game and take a 5fer.

You have really got to stop stating the obvious Saeed bhai. This is a very complex matter for afridi fans

[Lachrymose]

That's a good decision. Hafeez's captaincy has been observed in only 2 T20s so far and he didn't do too bad of a job. There is no reason to keep changing captains, especially when you have the World Cup a few months away. IMO, Hafeez is indeed the best choice at the moment, and should be persisted with for quite a while.

[LastLaugh_PK]

Originally Posted by Lachrymose That's a good decision. Hafeez's captaincy has been observed in only 2 T20s so far and he didn't do too bad of a job. There is no reason to keep changing captains, especially when you have the World Cup a few months away. IMO, Hafeez is indeed the best choice at the moment, and should be persisted with for quite a while.

In 2 matches Hafeez has a better win/loss percentage than Drama Queen , even though he lost one of those matches

[Couch Cricketer]

Originally Posted by Lachrymose That's a good decision. Hafeez's captaincy has been observed in only 2 T20s so far and he didn't do too bad of a job. There is no reason to keep changing captains, especially when you have the World Cup a few months away. IMO, Hafeez is indeed the best choice at the moment, and should be persisted with for quite a while.

My only problem with Hafeez is that as a captain is he is not willing to bowl himself as much as Misbah. Hafeez was winning us matches by opening the bowling and removing 1 or 2 wickets and going for almost nothing allowing us to put pressure and get wicket from the other end as well. Maybe it was Whatmore decision not to bowl Hafeez at the start but I really think Hafeez opening 2 overs usually set the match for us.

[mastermind_quad]

Originally Posted by Sherlock Yeah because India is a fort knox of silence

Yeah Sherlok ...our media is as bad as it can be ....but our player/management usually refrain from such kind of interviews .....which you rightly said as fort knox of silence .... ...haha.....

[saeedhk]

Good move.Just hope Misbah is not selected for T20s.

[waqar goraya]

yeah we do not need to remove hafeez as captain.....because he needs to be removed as a player from t20....couple of more ducks against Australia will do the trick..

[Mobashir]

From January 2011 till now his scores against good team (excludin Zim and Bangla) are :
3(4 balls); 13(14); 23(22); 0(2); 0(1); 0(1); 24(34).

But no one sees a problem here because he is a defensive player and PPers love them and they also love loosing.

[Zamee]

Why do people forget that Hafeez contributes so much with his bowling too !! Its just not his batting...

[waqar goraya]

@mobashir
yeah our t20 captain even does not deserve a place as an opener or perhaps as a player in t20 side

[cricketfan86]

Originally Posted by saeedhk Good move.Just hope Misbah is not selected for T20s.

well he also said misbah iz nat in da 30 man squad for t20 worldcup