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Old 18th January 2006, 19:43
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Agha Zahid the Pitch Curator says Weather is not helping to make sporting wicket.

Agha Zahid the Pitch Curator says Weather is not helping to make sporting wicket in Faisalabad. In an interview to BBC Urdu service he said its partly cloudy and will remain like this for next two days. So it would be very difficult for pitch to dry and for him to make a sporting pitch as I have been asked to make, he said.
So are you going to waste your time and watch another high scoring draw and get on with your life or you are going to wait until Karachi test for some thrilling cricket ?

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Old 18th January 2006, 19:44
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What the Fudge just leave the grass on the pitch and leave it to the Bowlers,

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Old 18th January 2006, 19:45
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With this weather the pitch wont dry out so it will seam all the five days

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Old 18th January 2006, 19:57
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With lack of sun light and cloudy weather, usually pitches tend to seam around more as they begin a bit damp.

So I am not sure about this argument that bad weather is the reason for dry belters being produced.

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Old 18th January 2006, 20:00
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forgeting preparing this pitch bakwas.

leave the covers off, let the pitch get wet and damp and leave grass on. once sun hits it and as it drys out it will become uneven and allow loads of swing.

then lets play the match.. i cudnt careless how the batsmen feel playing on such a surface, it will toughen up some off them!

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Old 18th January 2006, 20:03
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forgeting preparing this pitch bakwas.

leave the covers off, let the pitch get wet and damp and leave grass on. once sun hits it and as it drys out it will become uneven and allow loads of swing.

then lets play the match.. i cudnt careless how the batsmen feel playing on such a surface, it will toughen up some off them!


But that's the problem, sun isnt coming out. They should just roll the damn thing and play on it.

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Old 18th January 2006, 20:09
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But that's the problem, sun isnt coming out. They should just roll the damn thing and play on it.


exactly, who cares about a substandard pitch aslong as their is a postive result. If wicket stays damp for five days.. let it be damp!

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Old 18th January 2006, 20:11
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exactly, who cares about a substandard pitch aslong as their is a postive result. If wicket stays damp for five days.. let it be damp!


sure, atleast the game is gonna be more interesting and have a result. i dont even give a rats ass if the game ends in 3 days, after watching this test.

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Old 18th January 2006, 20:16
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sure, atleast the game is gonna be more interesting and have a result. i dont even give a rats ass if the game ends in 3 days, after watching this test.


same here... i agree a 3 or 4 day testmatch with batsmen been layed out by bowlers sounds great.

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Old 18th January 2006, 20:19
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GREEEENN TOPPPPPP PLZZ !!

underprepared green top like NZ

PLZ PLZ

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Old 18th January 2006, 20:21
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same here... i agree a 3 or 4 day testmatch with batsmen been layed out by bowlers sounds great.


oh yea, would love to see that happen. it might even help sami's and agarkar's careers !! but, would we want that to happen?

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Old 18th January 2006, 20:46
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Uneven bounce thats the main thing the more uneven the bounce the better it helps fasater bowlers as you cant get on the front foot. Thats the home advantage Pakistan wants

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Old 18th January 2006, 20:50
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Inzamam fears fans will stay away

LAHORE, Jan 17: Pakistan captain Inzamamul Haq has expressed fears that flat pitches which do not encourage results will eventually keep people away from Test matches in the country.

Inzamam did not hide his disappointment at the outcome of the high-scoring Test against India which ended in a draw on Tuesday.

“I know it is hard to get the right track in this cold weather, but the crowds we got back against England, with a hard-fought series on good pitches, will be discouraged if we have flat tracks against India,” he said.

Inzamam said the poor weather had made the last few days very difficult for the players.

“We just never got our rhythm going and it was a track which had nothing in it for the bowlers.”

Indian captain Rahul Dravid said he would not read too much into his team’s batting performance.

“It was a very good pitch for batting and very hard for the bowlers, but we wanted to make a statement in this Test and I think we did that. But it does not give us any psychological advantage for the second Test.

“In Faisalabad it will be a new match and I don’t think their bowlers would be bothered by what has happened here, although the batsmen who scored runs would have gained in confidence.”

He said the decision for him to open the innings had been taken with a view to giving India the best chance of trying to win. “But me playing as an opener is not a long-term solution and we will decide for the second Test after reaching Faisalabad.”

The Chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Shaharyar Khan said experts would be consulted over relaying pitches more conducive to Tests.

“We are not going to blame anyone for the failure to have a good Test pitch in Lahore. I think the cold weather conditions played a big role in the groundsmen failing to get their task done properly,” he said.

He said the board was concerned and wanted to improve pitches and encourage more results.

“We will soon consult former players and pitch experts and see if there is a need to relay new pitches at Test venues in the country.”

He said the board’s chief curator had already been sent to Faisalabad to try to prepare a good hard track with some grass.—Reuters

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Old 18th January 2006, 20:50
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such wickets as one in used in 1st test is reason why fans have always neglected watching test in pakistan!

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Old 18th January 2006, 20:57
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"GREEEENN TOPPPPPP PLZZ !!

underprepared green top like NZ

PLZ PLZ"

I love your ideas. Lets do it.

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Old 18th January 2006, 21:00
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forgeting preparing this pitch bakwas.

leave the covers off, let the pitch get wet and damp and leave grass on. once sun hits it and as it drys out it will become uneven and allow loads of swing.

then lets play the match.. i cudnt careless how the batsmen feel playing on such a surface, it will toughen up some off them!


Why not leave the pitch open during the match also. Make some holes here and there, dig it a little bit, underpreparing is much easy, believe me if they want they can have a two day match remember Bombay Australia vs. India?

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Old 18th January 2006, 21:03
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Why not leave the pitch open during the match also. Make some holes here and there, dig it a little bit, underpreparing is much easy, believe me if they want they can have a two day match remember Bombay Australia vs. India?


someone get some shovels and lets head to faisalabad

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Old 18th January 2006, 21:20
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someone get some shovels and lets head to faisalabad

All you De-curators! , please answer my original question!
"So are you going to waste your time and watch another high scoring draw or forget it and get on with your life and wait until Karachi test for some thrilling cricket ?"

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Old 18th January 2006, 21:34
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"GREEEENN TOPPPPPP PLZZ !!

underprepared green top like NZ

PLZ PLZ"

I love your ideas. Lets do it.


lets go.. u wanna dig it up in the night ?

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Old 18th January 2006, 21:39
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yaar on a serious note though.. i want ptches like NZ prepared for india a couple of years back. when indian cud barely cross 150, before getting bowled out

here is the link for scorecards

http://usa.cricinfo.com/link_to_dat..._NZ/SCORECARDS/

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Old 18th January 2006, 21:43
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yaar on a serious note though.. i want ptches like NZ prepared for india a couple of years back. when indian cud barely cross 150, before getting bowled out

here is the link for scorecards

http://usa.cricinfo.com/link_to_dat..._NZ/SCORECARDS/

SS Das c Fleming b Mills 30
V Sehwag b Bond 0
VVS Laxman c Mills b Tuffey 9
*SC Ganguly b Oram 14
+R Dravid c Vettori b Tuffey 20
Yuvraj Singh c Astle b Oram 2
M Kaif c Fleming b Oram 6
A Kumble lbw b Oram 0
J Srinath c Sinclair b Oram 0
Z Khan lbw b Vettori 14
A Nehra not out 0
Extras (lb 6, w 5, nb 2) 13
Total (all out, 32.5 overs, 150 mins) 108

Couldnt agree more but why you call it a serious note? You made my day Yaar! Thanks Buddy!

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Old 18th January 2006, 22:04
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yaar on a serious note though.. i want ptches like NZ prepared for india a couple of years back. when indian cud barely cross 150, before getting bowled out

here is the link for scorecards

http://usa.cricinfo.com/link_to_dat..._NZ/SCORECARDS/


Green tops only work if you have bowlers to use conditions. we dont have gul in sqaud ( a bowler who has shown his worth on such surfaces).

anways i wana see an awful pitch and a short test match

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Old 18th January 2006, 22:11
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The problem is that on a green top or bowlers paradise, the Pak batsmen would be just as, if not more vulnerable as the Indian batsmen.

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Old 18th January 2006, 22:14
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The problem is that on a green top or bowlers paradise, the Pak batsmen would be just as, if not more vulnerable as the Indian batsmen.


I would rather are batsmen toughen up and learn to bat on tricky wickets then play on placid tracks. Playing on wickets like lahore and other dead ones around world such as antigua dont improve batsmen one bit.

Atleast on a green seamers are batsmen would have to show abit more tempremant wise and technic wise to sucseed and with it become better players.

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The problem is that on a green top or bowlers paradise, the Pak batsmen would be just as, if not more vulnerable as the Indian batsmen.


they willbe more vulnerable than indian batsmen i agree. But lets just back our bowlers for once and ask our batsmen to get thier act straight

Most of the time we have backed our bowlers we have won test matches. Khi test ( Razzi's 5 for) vs SL and Lahore test vs India in 2004 being prime examples

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they will moe vulnerable than indian batsmen i agree. But lets just back our players for once and ask our batsmen to get thier act straight

Most of the time we have backed our bowlers we have won test matches. Khi test ( Razzi's 5 for) vs SL and Lahore test vs India in 2004 being prime examples


It would certainly "open up" the contest and possibly make a lottery of the situation. Difficult to say who would win the match - one "high risk"knock from an Afridi or Sehwag could sway the outcome.

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I dont know what this guy is complaining about, england hosts one of the better domestic leagues on the planet and it is plagued by the worst weather in the world. if those guys can make wickets where it rains 24/7, then whats his excuse?

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One has to be careful and not get batsmen injured unduly...If sun comes brightly on the Third Day of Faisalabad, it will spin yards on the Fifth Day: The only problem is how much time is lost due to bad light...

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they willbe more vulnerable than indian batsmen i agree. But lets just back our bowlers for once and ask our batsmen to get thier act straight

Most of the time we have backed our bowlers we have won test matches. Khi test ( Razzi's 5 for) vs SL and Lahore test vs India in 2004 being prime examples

Realistic awareness of your team's potential despite the fact that you want them to win. You must be a Pakistani!

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There is some rain tomorrow, but otherwise the weather in Faisalabad looks fine come the Test match.

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